*sigh* I told myself several times to remove it orzOracle wrote:
we removed video in taiko diffs.
Thank you very much qoot & Oracle!
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Yamanote Line - Yamanoted heaven [Yamanote Line x Second_hea
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Thank you very much qoot & Oracle!
[ktgster's Another]
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- 00:19:412 (1,2,3) - Add whistle on both (1,3) and remove it from (2)? I know the sound at (2) is much high-pitch, but it sounds a bit empty during 00:18:606 - to 00:19:412 -
- 00:22:131 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - This could be more curved I think, for example (not good at doing these stuff perfectly, sorry :<)
- 00:22:634 (1,2) - Kind of empty between these two notes since there are full of 1/4s (or 1/8s) around here, the rhythm like this (something 1/2) won't connect the parts before here and the parts after here that immediately. Suggest you to change like this:
- 00:26:662 (5) - Add a new combo here to keep the combo consistency with 00:25:051 (1) - and 00:25:857 (1) - ?
- 00:03:702 - Forget to add a soft-whistle here? I saw you add them on all the notes at second/forth white lines
- 00:08:536 - No hitsounds here? I think you should add a clap here or something like that, feels so empty
- 00:09:341 (6) - This would be kind of surprising to the players I think lol. Add a new combo here?
- 00:19:412 (1,2) - Personally think you can add whistles on 00:19:412 - / 00:19:814 - and remove it from 00:19:613 -. I know the sound at the end of slider (1) is much high-pitch, but that makes me feel empty if you only add whistle there.
- 00:24:245 (1,2) - This jump comes so suddenly, but I don't see any reason for that. It's kind of like if you want to place a jump there, and then you'll need to put another jump to make it reasonable, or the connection between those objects won't be that great. What I'll suggest you is remove that jump, or re-place a larger distance between 00:24:447 (2,3) -.
- 00:26:662 (5) - Add a new combo here? It seems like you add them twice in every 4 white lines, so you'll need one here, too.
- 00:03:702 (2) - / 00:14:175 (4) - Forget the soft-whistle?
- 00:10:550 (2) - The music here makes me feel that you should add drum-finish here, just like what you did at both 00:08:938 - / 00:09:744 -. Soft-whistle isn't that strong enough to emphasize it.
- 00:22:231 - At least add a whistle or something here. Also, the whistle on 00:23:641 - is kinda unnecessary to me (cuz you didn't add it on 00:22:835 (2) - )
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Thank you Flask! Applied everything
Got permission from Maeglwn to fix the mod for him (applied everything there as well)
Got permission from Maeglwn to fix the mod for him (applied everything there as well)
Flask
Flask wrote:
[ktgster's Another]
- 00:19:412 (1,2,3) - Add whistle on both (1,3) and remove it from (2)? I know the sound at (2) is much high-pitch, but it sounds a bit empty during 00:18:606 - to 00:19:412 - added whistle on 3 instead of both
- 00:22:131 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - This could be more curved I think, for example (not good at doing these stuff perfectly, sorry :<) - that was pretty much intentional although its something really small. Adjusted
- 00:22:634 (1,2) - Kind of empty between these two notes since there are full of 1/4s (or 1/8s) around here, the rhythm like this (something 1/2) won't connect the parts before here and the parts after here that immediately. Suggest you to change like this: - tbh, this doesn't really put emphasize enough on the end of the slider. Maybe you'll hate this change, but used 2 circles instead for the most emphasize on each note
- 00:26:662 (5) - Add a new combo here to keep the combo consistency with 00:25:051 (1) - and 00:25:857 (1) - ? - fixed NCing in 2nd kiai
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Topic Starter
updated
This might be a bug or something, but I don't see any differences between the new version of ktgster's diff and the old one (he changed something from my mod, so I think it shouldn't be that). Probably we need to summon ktgster to re-post the code again.
Others are fine o3o
Others are fine o3o
Topic Starter
hmmm, thats strange
re-updated
re-updated
hype
Gratz Lust!
Topic Starter
Thank you Flask and everyone!
You guys are gay. Congrats.
why no beatmania IIDX in the tags? ^_^
Because Konami will sue
pls fix ktgster's first spinner x___x
it just sounds terrible with the sudden 5% volume
it just sounds terrible with the sudden 5% volume
[General]
edit:
Beginner also did not have enough play time.
thanks Gamu
- [quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
- [quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.taiko maps had no enough play time (00:01:688 - 00:30:690 - )
- last spinners did not follow the melody in standard difficulties. I think should be 00:29:885 - .
I guess the map will not rank if you edit the audio data.
edit:
Beginner also did not have enough play time.
thanks Gamu
this unfortunately seems legit and needs to be fixed...NewRulerNA wrote:
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
taiko maps had no enough play time (00:01:688 - 00:30:690 - )waitNewRulerNA wrote:
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
How does this makes any sense? If the spinners in Normal, Hyper and Another are shortended these Difficulties also become unrankable then - according to that what you wrote. In general I am honestly really unsure if we should stick to the rule and put quite unnecessary spinners at the begin of Beginner and the Taiko Difficulties (in both cases they fit extremly bad due playability) or if we just use common sense and say that's fine. Also..NewRulerNA wrote:
last spinners did not follow the melody in standard difficulties. I think should be 00:29:885 - .
and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.This isn't something which affects to this map if the origin song is that short and there is no longer version outside. At least we can expect from the mapper he clearly looked out about this point.
Also I am not sure how to loop a MAD good without ruining flow. I had troubles in the past with https://osu.ppy.sh/s/60167 , I however had luck that LoliFlan extended me that somehow in a good file. Will care for this.
Have to disqualify this due to the ranking criteria stated above.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.This will never be broken in any circumstances.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception but it's a rule so there is no guarantee that this will be brought back to qualified section.
Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.This will never be broken in any circumstances.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception but it's a rule so there is no guarantee that this will be brought back to qualified section.
Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683
This will never be broken in any circumstances.Frostmourne wrote:
Have to disqualify this due to the ranking criteria stated above.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception (I hope).
Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683For Video Case: I agree because this audio is just 32 second and in this example map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/213835
In case, -NanoRIPE- send a video for Kyubey but Kyubey is reject
For play time: plz add spinner in 00:27:468 - 00:30:690 and change first spinner 00:00:077 - 00:01:285 or Lust, delete ktgster's diff
and Japanese title is: Yamanoted heaven【山手線× Second_heaven】(not add space 2 again)
and this map is not Beatmania IIDX song (because i can't searching this song is video games song/Beatmania IIDX), so no, this map is not Beatmania IIDX song.
>3 seconds
also notes for BATs regarding future ranks: Check RC before ranking to avoid such cases like these. This map was rebubbled twice and reranked twice, aka 4 different BATs working but none of them actually noticed these issues
also notes for BATs regarding future ranks: Check RC before ranking to avoid such cases like these. This map was rebubbled twice and reranked twice, aka 4 different BATs working but none of them actually noticed these issues
higokugohan12468 wrote:
In case, -NanoRIPE- send a video for Kyubey but Kyubey is reject
haiKyubey wrote:
higokugohan12468 wrote:
In case, -NanoRIPE- send a video for Kyubey but Kyubey is reject
Maeglwn
This will never be broken in any circumstances.Frostmourne wrote:
Have to disqualify this due to the ranking criteria stated above.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception but it's a rule so there is no guarantee that this will be brought back to qualified section.
Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683the site doesn't note spinners in drain time, ingame the maps are 30 seconds long
audio in video part should be an easy enough fix I guess
still really irritating to see this once again unranked for stuff that should've been seen before it got bubbled
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.taiko maps had no enough play time (00:01:688 - 00:30:690 - )last spinners did not follow the melody in standard difficulties. I think should be 00:29:885 - .NewRulerNA wrote:
[General]
- [quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
I guess the map will not rank if you edit the audio data.
edit:
Beginner also did not have enough play time.
thanks GamuLooks like i should really check things detailedly no matter how many times it got ranked before. The existing audio track was my bad, sorry!
Beginner diff did have enough play time before the unrankings. While things changed due to notes being too soon after spinner. I really don't see the point of stating this. Should I directly tell the mapper "Hey your map is not long enough! delete it!"? I think that's going against my own policy to mappers. They took time to create things and gather mods. Every ranked map is the combination of efforts from multiple people. I made my choice here, I think this should be the better way for players and the ones who contributed to the set.
As the statement in RC: "This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully. "
The highest diff has over 1m score in total with 2 spinners to vary the scores. And the audio is absolutely the same one from its original source, NicoNicoDouga. It's not a cut version and we're enjoying the song fully. I have no idea why we should have the purpose reversed. You are preventing players from enjoying the song. I don't see any huge difference between this and "stopping people from enjoying the song fully" from RC. I consider the first one being worse tho.
Just my 2 cents~ Might be helpful in judging the case here. I appreciate your checking NewRulerNA!
Good luck on getting this one back (
Feel my pain...Irreversible wrote:
I absolutely agree with this in every aspect. I personally think this rule has been set in the past to prevent people being lazyasses and choose to map like 10% of a song just to get them asap ranked which is of course wrong. But cases like pupa or this song shows that this rule can't always work. I think a rewording of this rule should be done because "This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully" cannot work to 100% for every Beatmap.Oracle wrote:
As the statement in RC: "This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully. "
The highest diff has over 1m score in total with 2 spinners to vary the scores. And the audio is absolutely the same one from its original source, NicoNicoDouga. It's not a cut version and we're enjoying the song fully. I have no idea why we should have the purpose reversed. You are preventing players from enjoying the song. I don't see any huge difference between this and "stopping people from enjoying the song fully" from RC. I consider the first one being worse tho.
You probably not interested but
http://puu.sh/caQk1/a3c50c724a.mp3
offset 19 bpm 141,502
slowed about 5% to meet current length rules
no quality loss\artifacts included
edit:
also your video slowed to match mp3
http://puu.sh/caUFM/20fb77f16d.avi
http://puu.sh/caQk1/a3c50c724a.mp3
offset 19 bpm 141,502
slowed about 5% to meet current length rules
no quality loss\artifacts included
edit:
also your video slowed to match mp3
http://puu.sh/caUFM/20fb77f16d.avi
Hm.. Some of you seem to be misunderstanding. Standard difficulties are fine.
<Standard>
Beginner
Start: 00:01:688 - End: 00:30:690 - => 998 ms shorter than 30 seconds
Maeglwn's Normal, Hyper, ktgster's Another
Start: 00:00:077 - End: 00:30:690 - => 613 ms longer than 30 seconds
<Taiko>
Muzukashii, Oni
Start: 00:01:688 - End: 00:30:690 - => 998ms shorter than 30 seconds
EDIT: oops.. Beginner difficulty is also against the rule. Fixed a mistake. Thanks Stefan.
<Standard>
Beginner
Start: 00:01:688 - End: 00:30:690 - => 998 ms shorter than 30 seconds
Maeglwn's Normal, Hyper, ktgster's Another
Start: 00:00:077 - End: 00:30:690 - => 613 ms longer than 30 seconds
<Taiko>
Muzukashii, Oni
Start: 00:01:688 - End: 00:30:690 - => 998ms shorter than 30 seconds
EDIT: oops.. Beginner difficulty is also against the rule. Fixed a mistake. Thanks Stefan.
???KSHR wrote:
Hm.. Some of you seem to be misunderstanding. Standard difficulties are fine.
<Standard>
Easy
Start: 00:01:688 - End: 00:30:690 - => 2ms longer than 30 seconds
<Taiko>
Muzukashii, Oni
Start: 00:01:688 - End: 00:30:690 - => 998ms shorter than 30 seconds
What
http://puu.sh/ceMrp.avi - removed audio. Quality might be slightly crappier though since I used the FLV in the map as my material but saved it at good quality levels. Shouldn't need an offset adjustment
Beginner/Normal: 00:00:077 Try a 2/1 slider with a soft sampleset finish on the head (Change to S in the timing) @ around 20-25% volume. I personally think Normal could go without the first spinner because of how short it is. Really your only option at this point to meet the 30 second criteria since Easy isn't allowed to have a spinner.
Hard and above already have long enough spinners so they're fine.
Maeglwn's Normal:
(read above for spinner removal suggestion)
00:01:688 (1) - drum whistle or drum finish? Feels a bit empty without anything here.
Taiko: Try these to get your map over 30 seconds long on both Taiko diffs.
00:00:077 - K
00:00:882 - d
Or just add a spinner?
All the diffs check out fine. I don't really have any suggestions for improvement. Let's fix these problems and get this back to unqualify#3.
'
Beginner/Normal: 00:00:077 Try a 2/1 slider with a soft sampleset finish on the head (Change to S in the timing) @ around 20-25% volume. I personally think Normal could go without the first spinner because of how short it is. Really your only option at this point to meet the 30 second criteria since Easy isn't allowed to have a spinner.
Hard and above already have long enough spinners so they're fine.
Maeglwn's Normal:
(read above for spinner removal suggestion)
00:01:688 (1) - drum whistle or drum finish? Feels a bit empty without anything here.
Taiko: Try these to get your map over 30 seconds long on both Taiko diffs.
00:00:077 - K
00:00:882 - d
Or just add a spinner?
All the diffs check out fine. I don't really have any suggestions for improvement. Let's fix these problems and get this back to unqualify#3.
'
Sounds good. Call me back when you decide to move this forward.
Maeglwn
I am like poop again, woooops
Lanturn wrote:
Taiko: Try these to get your map over 30 seconds long on both Taiko diffs.
00:00:077 - K
00:00:882 - d
Or just add a spinner? Spinners are working different in the Taiko mode than in Standard. Won't adding something unfitting to fit with the rule. Same goes to the suggestions previously. This "part" of the song isn't something you can stuff with any Hitobjects without being extremly weird
Topic Starter
graved, nice
Ouch it was a fun map tho ),:Lust wrote:
graved, nice