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Gresby Nash - Fan Forever

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Nozhomi
Thanks Katty for modding Insane <3. Lot of improvement again about flow and positioning.
Updated !
riffy
So, as requested by your friend.

[General]
  1. League of Legends is also knows as lol, just a little tag that might help players to find the map easier.
[oko's Normal]
  1. Try to avoid tricky stacks. Since this is the easiest diff, try to avoid stacks, please. Wiki.
    Note: while patterns like 00:03:676 (6,1) - are readable because of a New Combo, while 00:27:676 (3,4) - 00:31:368 (3,4) - 00:35:061 (3,4) - are much more confusing, I recommend to unstack at least them
  2. 00:59:061 (7,1,1) - basically the same, as above, I'd unstack it to be 100% sure that players will be able to read this stuff.

    Well, not much to add. The diff looks quite nice.
[Hard]
  1. 00:33:676 - I don't really like how the beat is ignored in the middle of the slider, it feels forced here. Same happens with 00:35:984 (2) - 00:39:676 (2) - 01:31:368 (2) - 01:31:368 (2) -and might be a few more. Not too much to add, good job.
[Insane]
  1. 00:18:215 (6,7) - I am pretty sure that their tails are overmapped as the music does not suggest any 1/4s at that point.
    Note: 00:21:907 (5,6) - 00:21:907 (5,6) - and many more - same. Get more opinions on them and at least reduce volume on their tails or remove them completely.
    Note2: either my headphones are fooling me, or there is nothing at 00:47:176 (3) - pay more attention to 1/4s as they feel overmapped in some parts.
  2. 00:27:215 (4,5) - minor - unstack (4) a little to make it clear that (5) is a slider. Those, who have snaking sliders disabled aren't happy with suh patterns.
  3. 00:59:407 (1,1) - 1/2 gap after spinner feels too fast for a calm part. Though it is rankable, I recommend you to avoid this as it keeps players stressed in a part where players shouldn't be stressed. Finishing it at 01:02:061 - is ideal, though 01:02:522 - is fine, too.
  4. 01:22:368 (4,5) - minor - why did you suddenly start to use these shapes? There was nothing like this before and havig an intense curve near the end of the slider without any rhythmical reason looks a little strange to me.

    Just the 1/4s feel overmapped in non-kiai parts.
That's pretty much it. I am unsure about 1/4s in the Insane, so I would suggest to get 1 more mod on rhythm on the Insane. Then you're free to call me back.

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Best of luck!
Okoratu
00:26:984 (2,3,4) - ff
00:30:676 (2,3,4) - ff
00:34:368 (2,3,4) - ff
00:59:061 (7,1) - ff
01:03:907 (2,3,4) - ff
01:29:753 (2,3,4) - ff
01:51:676 (2,3,4,5) - these no these stay pls
/ff at 20

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[General]
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PreviewTime: 28725
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Fan Forever
TitleUnicode:Fan Forever
Artist:Gresby Nash
ArtistUnicode:Gresby Nash
Creator:Nozhomi
Version:oko's Normal
Source:
Tags:atmosphere piano all-stars 2014 league of legends paris okoratu
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59,126,103138,2,0,L|24:173,1,50,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
28,226,103599,5,4,0:0:0:0:
92,327,104061,2,0,P|125:296|147:235,1,99.9999999999999,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,133,104984,2,0,P|216:109|246:100,1,50,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
285,96,105445,2,0,B|324:128|324:128|327:164|305:186,1,99.9999999999999,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,261,106368,2,0,P|235:291|302:325,1,99.9999999999999,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,329,107061,1,2,0:0:0:0:
350,329,107291,6,0,L|409:236,1,99.9999999999999,0|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
435,128,108215,1,0,0:0:0:0:
367,29,108676,2,0,P|338:29|305:41,1,50,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,91,109138,2,0,P|277:134|239:174,1,99.9999999999999,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
145,251,110061,2,0,P|110:224|100:201,1,50
115,160,110522,2,0,P|91:122|91:98,1,50,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,61,110984,6,0,P|144:43|222:48,1,99.9999999999999,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
262,57,111676,1,2,0:0:0:0:
262,57,111907,2,0,P|323:71|376:62,1,99.9999999999999,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,49,112599,1,2,0:0:0:0:
417,49,112830,2,0,P|426:98|413:158,1,99.9999999999999,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
355,249,113753,1,0,0:0:0:0:
242,291,114215,2,0,P|222:253|218:227,1,50,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
209,187,114676,6,0,P|240:161|263:91,1,99.9999999999999,0|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,15,115599,1,0,0:0:0:0:
73,56,116061,2,0,P|49:90|48:109,1,50,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
62,155,116522,2,0,B|76:200|40:247|40:247|86:272|86:272|69:317|69:317|112:372|168:348|182:295,1,350,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,236,118368,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,118599,12,0,122061,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Nozhomi

-Bakari- wrote:

So, as requested by your friend.

[General]
  1. League of Legends is also knows as lol, just a little tag that might help players to find the map easier. - Fix
[Hard]
  1. 00:33:676 - I don't really like how the beat is ignored in the middle of the slider, it feels forced here. Same happens with 00:35:984 (2) - 00:39:676 (2) - 01:31:368 (2) - 01:31:368 (2) -and might be a few more. Not too much to add, good job. - 00:33:676 - is not concerned about it. For the other it's fixed. I look on the diff I guess there is no more than these 4.
[Insane]
  1. 00:18:215 (6,7) - I am pretty sure that their tails are overmapped as the music does not suggest any 1/4s at that point.
    Note: 00:21:907 (5,6) - 00:21:907 (5,6) - and many more - same. Get more opinions on them and at least reduce volume on their tails or remove them completely. - I'll wait other opinion to take an action about these 1/4.
    Note2: either my headphones are fooling me, or there is nothing at 00:47:176 (3) - pay more attention to 1/4s as they feel overmapped in some parts. - This one was fix, I'll check the other.
  2. 00:27:215 (4,5) - minor - unstack (4) a little to make it clear that (5) is a slider. Those, who have snaking sliders disabled aren't happy with suh patterns. - Fix
  3. 00:59:407 (1,1) - 1/2 gap after spinner feels too fast for a calm part. Though it is rankable, I recommend you to avoid this as it keeps players stressed in a part where players shouldn't be stressed. Finishing it at 01:02:061 - is ideal, though 01:02:522 - is fine, too. - Second option sounds good to me. I don't want a so big gap.
  4. 01:22:368 (4,5) - minor - why did you suddenly start to use these shapes? There was nothing like this before and havig an intense curve near the end of the slider without any rhythmical reason looks a little strange to me. - Changed.

    Just the 1/4s feel overmapped in non-kiai parts.
That's pretty much it. I am unsure about 1/4s in the Insane, so I would suggest to get 1 more mod on rhythm on the Insane. Then you're free to call me back.

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Best of luck!
Thanks a lot again Bakari <3 (and Secretpipe huhu).
Also apply some IRC suggestions from Oko (again) ^^, I just wait other opinion before apply HS volume or remove 1/4.

Updated !
Saut
Yo, refering to those "overmapped" 1/4 sliders

Actually the following opinion should be excatly what oko has allready told you, but since you wanted a post, I will try to explain it again. Please keep in mind that I am not a Legendary Elite Super Mapper Lvl 5 and can only give my opinion about this topic.

Well, when you listen very carefully to the music you can spot something at these parts. There is a very quiet "playback" which could be used to make some 1/4 sliders. IMO - your sliderends are a bit too loud for those almost not noticeable sounds. I would simply recommend reducing the volume of the sliderends - then it should be fine. Btw since on some parts where is cleary nothing in the background you actually set no objects it would be wrong to also set nothing at the parts where something is (even if its very quiet) - just when you think about it.
But to add this aspect here (unpopular opinion) - in general i think even if in the playback wouldn't be anything to map on, you could keep the circles even if it's overmapping, since you set these additional objects constantly, so basically you edit the song. At this point every experienced mapper will throw tons of tomatos on me.

hope this opinion is still somehow useful - good luck with ranking!
Topic Starter
Nozhomi
Thanks Saut to check it. I know these was "fine" to play, but better to be sure it's was ok.

Also I ask to CB for check them and sounds ok for him (his score after played it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2365942 sighread)
So I applied some volume changes suggested by Okoratu. I hope it's good now.
riffy
A couple of additional very minor changes were done, and everything looks good to go!

Bubbled!
Topic Starter
Nozhomi
Thk Baraki <3<3<3
Okoratu
osu needs more elevator music
Secretpipe
Did some IRC with Nozhomi !

We fixed some placement issues .

baguette
18:15 Secretpipe: zjjzv
18:15 Secretpipe: BUBBLED
18:15 Nozhomi: YAY
18:16 *Secretpipe is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/423760 Gresby Nash - Fan Forever [Hard]]
18:16 Secretpipe: juste
18:16 Secretpipe: EST CE QUE TOUT LES HITSOUNDS SONT UTILISES ?
18:17 Nozhomi: normalement oui tu verra avec l'insane aussi
18:17 Secretpipe: T'es sur ?
18:17 Secretpipe: Regarde bien
18:17 Nozhomi: mais tous les hs présent sont au moins utilisés une fois
18:17 Secretpipe: okay
18:18 Secretpipe: 00:34:830 (3) - Tu pourrais le CTRL+G ca
18:18 Secretpipe: MEilleur flow garanti
18:19 Nozhomi: je vais recheck les hs comme ça on sera sur
18:19 Nozhomi: t'es sur pour le ctrl+g ?
18:19 Secretpipe: nan ils sont tous utilisés
18:19 Secretpipe: http://puu.sh/dCu0B.png
18:19 Nozhomi: les 2 sont bon perso mais ok
18:20 Secretpipe: ouais ca donne un meilleur flow imo
18:20 Nozhomi: ok fixed
18:20 Secretpipe: 00:49:599 (4) - T'aurais pu le curv pour que ca blanket avec 00:50:061 (1) -
18:20 Secretpipe: Ce serait vraiment cool si tu le fais ca
18:21 Secretpipe: http://puu.sh/dCudm.jpg
18:21 Secretpipe: Un truc comme ca
18:21 Nozhomi: le ds va pas être abusé ?
18:22 Nozhomi: on augmente de 0.4x quand même
18:22 Secretpipe: A peine 2.0
18:22 Secretpipe: nah c'est bien
18:22 Nozhomi: ok fixed then
18:22 Secretpipe: le blanket ?
18:22 Secretpipe: kk
18:22 Nozhomi: oui
18:24 Secretpipe: 01:43:368 (5,6,1) - Ca serait bien si tu fais un truc qui descend genre
18:24 Secretpipe: http://puu.sh/dCunr.jpg
18:25 Secretpipe: 01:45:445 (1) - remonte le un peu
18:25 Secretpipe: parce que ca touche la barre des trucs si tu overtap
18:25 Secretpipe: c'tout pour la hard
18:26 Nozhomi: OK
18:27 Secretpipe: 00:27:215 (4,5) -
18:27 Secretpipe: stack D:
18:27 Nozhomi: Insane ?
18:27 Secretpipe: oui
18:28 Nozhomi: c'est Bakari qui m'a dit de unstack pour bien comprendre que c'est un slider
18:28 Secretpipe: ah okay
18:28 Secretpipe: on laisse ca alors
18:28 Nozhomi: :)
18:30 Secretpipe: un peu mosh 01:32:522 (1,2) - ;;
18:30 Secretpipe: mais c'est ton style
18:30 Nozhomi: oué j'aime cette symétrie la ^^
18:31 Secretpipe: okay
18:31 Secretpipe: 01:33:907 (5) - ca , tourne le plus vers le 6
18:31 Nozhomi: alors je le fait aussi pour 01:32:061 (7) -
18:31 Nozhomi: sinon y a aucune logique XD
18:32 Secretpipe: bah le flow est bofbof la
18:32 Secretpipe: oui
18:32 Nozhomi: je veux dire ne pas faire l'un mais l'autre serait con
18:32 Secretpipe: ouais
18:33 Secretpipe: allez update!
18:33 Nozhomi: fixed
18:33 Nozhomi: BSS PLS
18:33 Secretpipe: ALLEZ
18:33 Nozhomi: DONE !

It should be good to go !~


Congratulations for your first ranked beatmap !
Saut
osu needs more nozhomi - and gz for ranking!
Okoratu
lmao
Topic Starter
Nozhomi
Thanks a lot Secretpipe !
And thanks to all modders who help me, and Oko for your badass diff <3

Saut wrote:

osu needs more nozhomi - and gz for ranking!
soon maybe ;)
Okoratu
badass elevator music normal

suuuuure?
WingSilent
My friend, you did a really nice map ! I'm going to enjoy it. :D
Nya~ Noz'

Congratulations for Ranking ! :)
Cherry Blossom
Gratz, Your first qualified GD yerterday, and your first map today o/
Mao
Congrats from Desp and me c:
rezoons
Félicitation!
koreapenguin
NOZHOMI, Congratz!
Ovoui
:)
Eni
grats on rank~
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