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kamisamaaa
I found your hitsound is finished. and I will check them
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[insane]
00:47:011 (6) - remove this clap. kiai have no clap on the last red line in every part. remove all of them because not suit for music >.<
00:47:696 (2) - miss a clap
00:48:039 (4) - miss a clap
00:48:554 (1) - add clap on the tail
00:49:068 (3) - add clap on the head
00:49:411 (4) - add clap
00:49:754 (6) - remove clap
00:52:496 (6) - remove clap
00:53:696 (1) - add clap on the tail
00:55:068 (5) - remove clap on the tail
00:57:982 (6) - remove clap
00:58:154 (1) - add clap on the head
01:00:725 (6) - remove clap
01:03:468 (6) - remove clap
01:04:668 (1) - add clap on the tail
00:50:954 (4) - wrong hitsound. should be normal-Sampleset and soft-Additions
01:06:039 (6) - remove clap and use normal-Sampleset and soft-Additions
01:06:382 (1) - remove clap here
01:14:954 (2) - add default soft-whistle on the head
01:17:182 miss a note here
01:38:782 (5) - here should use clap on the tail. not the normal-hitnormal
01:41:525 (3) - ^ this part you should use same hitsound like 00:33:468 this part
01:46:325 (1,2,3,4) - these three suggest use default Drum-hitclap. btw suggest add a note 01:46:839 here and add Drum-hitfinish
the secomd kiai part hitsound should same as the frist
01:50:096 (6) - remove this clap
01:51:639 (1) - miss a clap on the tail
01:52:839 (6) - remove clap
01:55:582 (6) - remove clap
01:56:782 (1) - add clap on the tail
01:58:154 (5) - remove clap on the tail
02:00:382 (4) - remove clap on the tail
02:01:068 (7) - remove clap
02:03:811 (6) - ^
02:06:554 (7) - ^
02:07:754 (1) - add clap on the tail
02:09:296 (7) - remove clap
02:11:868 (5) - remove clap on the tail
02:14:782 (1,2) - use normal-Sampleset and soft-Additions
From 02:17:696 to 02:25:925 suggest use some default soft-whistle to follow the high-pitched voice
I have to go for exam. have no time check the othe part and all soft-hitwhistllt....sorry for this >.<
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

kamisamaaa wrote:

I found your hitsound is finished. and I will check them
No KD for this post

[insane]
00:47:011 (6) - remove this clap. kiai have no clap on the last red line in every part. remove all of them because not suit for music >.< my bad! fixed
00:47:696 (2) - miss a clap
00:48:039 (4) - miss a clap
00:48:554 (1) - add clap on the tail
00:49:068 (3) - add clap on the head
00:49:411 (4) - add clap
00:49:754 (6) - remove clap
00:52:496 (6) - remove clap
00:53:696 (1) - add clap on the tail
00:55:068 (5) - remove clap on the tail
00:57:982 (6) - remove clap
00:58:154 (1) - add clap on the head
01:00:725 (6) - remove clap
01:03:468 (6) - remove clap
01:04:668 (1) - add clap on the tail
00:50:954 (4) - wrong hitsound. should be normal-Sampleset and soft-Additions
01:06:039 (6) - remove clap and use normal-Sampleset and soft-Additions
01:06:382 (1) - remove clap here
01:14:954 (2) - add default soft-whistle on the head
01:17:182 miss a note here
01:38:782 (5) - here should use clap on the tail. not the normal-hitnormal there's a snare drum hit though?
01:41:525 (3) - ^ this part you should use same hitsound like 00:33:468 this part it is exactly the same i think ;3
01:46:325 (1,2,3,4) - these three suggest use default Drum-hitclap. btw suggest add a note 01:46:839 here and add Drum-hitfinish
the secomd kiai part hitsound should same as the frist there's nothing that plays there so i won't add anything
01:50:096 (6) - remove this clap
01:51:639 (1) - miss a clap on the tail
01:52:839 (6) - remove clap
01:55:582 (6) - remove clap
01:56:782 (1) - add clap on the tail
01:58:154 (5) - remove clap on the tail
02:00:382 (4) - remove clap on the tail
02:01:068 (7) - remove clap
02:03:811 (6) - ^
02:06:554 (7) - ^
02:07:754 (1) - add clap on the tail
02:09:296 (7) - remove clap
02:11:868 (5) - remove clap on the tail
02:14:782 (1,2) - use normal-Sampleset and soft-Additions
From 02:17:696 to 02:25:925 suggest use some default soft-whistle to follow the high-pitched voice
I have to go for exam. have no time check the othe part and all soft-hitwhistllt....sorry for this >.<
thanks for checking! I've fixed everything else aside from what i wrote in red, i'll try fixing the parts ahead and in my other diffs

not sure what hitsound to put for:
01:06:211 (7) -
02:09:296 (7) -
03:15:125 (7) -
03:37:068 (7) -
kamisamaaa

[Vincent] wrote:

kamisamaaa wrote:

I found your hitsound is finished. and I will check them
No KD for this post

[insane]
01:38:782 (5) - here should use clap on the tail. not the normal-hitnormal there's a snare drum hit though?
01:41:525 (3) - ^ this part you should use same hitsound like 00:33:468 this part it is exactly the same i think ;3
00:33:468 in this part you all use clap with no normal-hitnormal. but 01:41:525 (3) - here and 01:38:782 (5) - here you use normal-hitmormal. it not same hitsound in these two part
01:46:325 (1,2,3,4) - these three suggest use default Drum-hitclap. btw suggest add a note 01:46:839 here and add Drum-hitfinish
the secomd kiai part hitsound should same as the frist there's nothing that plays there so i won't add anything
just because I feel add a note here will feel better tham current one >.< both in play and hitsound
thanks for checking! I've fixed everything else aside from what i wrote in red, i'll try fixing the parts ahead and in my other diffs

not sure what hitsound to put for:
01:06:211 (7) - you can add finish here and chang to Drum-Additions like this. and change 01:06:039 (6) - this to normal-Sampleset and Drum-Additions . add clap and remove whistle like this
02:09:296 (7) -
03:15:125 (7) -
03:37:068 (7) -
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

kamisamaaa wrote:

[Vincent] wrote:

I found your hitsound is finished. and I will check them
No KD for this post

[insane]
01:38:782 (5) - here should use clap on the tail. not the normal-hitnormal there's a snare drum hit though?
01:41:525 (3) - ^ this part you should use same hitsound like 00:33:468 this part it is exactly the same i think ;3
00:33:468 in this part you all use clap with no normal-hitnormal. but 01:41:525 (3) - here and 01:38:782 (5) - here you use normal-hitmormal. it not same hitsound in these two part
there are normal-hitnormals in 00:33:468 (1) - it's at the tail of 00:35:696 (5) - and 00:38:439 (3) -
Also it's in the song that's why i used it
01:46:325 (1,2,3,4) - these three suggest use default Drum-hitclap. btw suggest add a note 01:46:839 here and add Drum-hitfinish
the secomd kiai part hitsound should same as the frist there's nothing that plays there so i won't add anything
just because I feel add a note here will feel better tham current one >.< both in play and hitsound
I'll leave it since i actually really like the way it plays currently
thanks for checking! I've fixed everything else aside from what i wrote in red, i'll try fixing the parts ahead and in my other diffs

not sure what hitsound to put for:
01:06:211 (7) - you can add finish here and chang to Drum-Additions like this. and change 01:06:039 (6) - this to normal-Sampleset and Drum-Additions . add clap and remove whistle like this done!
02:09:296 (7) -
03:15:125 (7) -
03:37:068 (7) -
Sorarei
don't kudos this

metadata must be same according source

Artist : yuiko (Primary are circle)
Title : fragile garden (all lowercase)

i love meis clauson <3
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Reikosaka wrote:

don't kudos this

metadata must be same according source

Artist : yuiko (Primary are circle)
Title : fragile garden (all lowercase)

i love meis clauson <3
Alright changing this for the 2nd time :lol:
kamisamaaa
I found your hitsound is finished. and I will check them
No KD for this post

[insane]
01:38:782 (5) - here should use clap on the tail. not the normal-hitnormal there's a snare drum hit though?
01:41:525 (3) - ^ this part you should use same hitsound like 00:33:468 this part it is exactly the same i think ;3
00:33:468 in this part you all use clap with no normal-hitnormal. but 01:41:525 (3) - here and 01:38:782 (5) - here you use normal-hitmormal. it not same hitsound in these two part
there are normal-hitnormals in 00:33:468 (1) - it's at the tail of 00:35:696 (5) - and 00:38:439 (3) -
Also it's in the song that's why i used it
01:46:325 (1,2,3,4) - these three suggest use default Drum-hitclap. btw suggest add a note 01:46:839 here and add Drum-hitfinish
the secomd kiai part hitsound should same as the frist there's nothing that plays there so i won't add anything
just because I feel add a note here will feel better tham current one >.< both in play and hitsound
I'll leave it since i actually really like the way it plays currently
not sure what hitsound to put for:
01:06:211 (7) - you can add finish here and chang to Drum-Additions like this. and change 01:06:039 (6) - this to normal-Sampleset and Drum-Additions . add clap and remove whistle like this done!
02:09:296 (7) -
03:15:125 (7) -
03:37:068 (7) -
thanks for checking! I've fixed everything else aside from what i wrote in red, i'll try fixing the parts ahead and in my other diffs

actually its just some my own suggestions~ you can choose the way you like 8-)
good luck and starred~ hope you can rank this
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

kamisamaaa wrote:

I found your hitsound is finished. and I will check them
No KD for this post

[insane]
01:38:782 (5) - here should use clap on the tail. not the normal-hitnormal there's a snare drum hit though?
01:41:525 (3) - ^ this part you should use same hitsound like 00:33:468 this part it is exactly the same i think ;3
00:33:468 in this part you all use clap with no normal-hitnormal. but 01:41:525 (3) - here and 01:38:782 (5) - here you use normal-hitmormal. it not same hitsound in these two part
there are normal-hitnormals in 00:33:468 (1) - it's at the tail of 00:35:696 (5) - and 00:38:439 (3) -
Also it's in the song that's why i used it
01:46:325 (1,2,3,4) - these three suggest use default Drum-hitclap. btw suggest add a note 01:46:839 here and add Drum-hitfinish
the secomd kiai part hitsound should same as the frist there's nothing that plays there so i won't add anything
just because I feel add a note here will feel better tham current one >.< both in play and hitsound
I'll leave it since i actually really like the way it plays currently
not sure what hitsound to put for:
01:06:211 (7) - you can add finish here and chang to Drum-Additions like this. and change 01:06:039 (6) - this to normal-Sampleset and Drum-Additions . add clap and remove whistle like this done!
02:09:296 (7) -
03:15:125 (7) -
03:37:068 (7) -
thanks for checking! I've fixed everything else aside from what i wrote in red, i'll try fixing the parts ahead and in my other diffs

actually its just some my own suggestions~ you can choose the way you like 8-)
good luck and starred~ hope you can rank this
Thanks a lot for fixing up my hit sounds! much appreciated :D :D :D
and thanks for the star :oops:
Kihhou
AaaAAAAAaaa my this song is so long ;-;

[Easy]
  1. 00:32:096 (2) - add reverse arrow to this? for 2/1 spacing to next note. will need to fix spacing. something liek this?
  2. im too tired from other diffs ;-; skimmed over this. pretty sure everything else is fine lol
[Normal]
  1. 00:21:125 - i think you misplaced some notes here. the strongest vocal is here and shouldnt be ignored for the drums imo. refer to 01:23:525 (2,3,4) - ?
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:839 (5) - whistle at head to follow previous whistle patterns for intro
  2. 00:11:182 (6) - whistle. same reason ^
  3. 00:50:611 (3) - youre putting a pretty strong vocal on the tail. normally this would be fine for longer sliders following a stronger vocal but theres also no follow up. as in theres a pause after the strong vocal which can be a bit misleading since it's expected for there to be something immediately afterwards, especially after you had 00:44:439 (1,2,3) - where the circle (2) continues off the vocal tail. so you may want to add a circle at 00:51:125 - and uh change up the rhythm. the next two points below is also related
  4. 00:50:611 (3) - strong vocal here. represent by using slider head?
  5. 00:51:811 - skipped right over a vocal here soooo for all 3, i suggest another rhythm. that is only if you want to change for all three above
  6. 01:01:582 (3,4) - point (3) at (4) more directly?
  7. 01:21:468 (5) - change the direction it's pointing for better flow?
  8. 01:54:554 (7) - similar to the one above, the pause isnt expected and can confuse some people. aaanddd below
  9. 01:54:382 - strongest vocal is here but it's not really standing out in any way like a slider head. maybe try this rhythm? delete 01:54:382 (6) - and move the reverse slider to where that circle was. then add a circle at 01:54:896 - and stack it ontop of the head of slider at 01:55:239 - for an antijump. this way the an antijump will represent the pause instead of a slider tail
  10. 00:53:696 (4) - replace with a 1/1 slider? this note is long and drawn out for both the vocal and the guitar instead of a hit and pause
  11. 01:56:782 (4) - ^^^^
  12. 03:02:611 (4) - same ^
  13. 03:24:554 (4) - ^
[Insane]
  1. hp drain -1? 7 seems a bit brutal for its jumps and low hit object density
  2. 00:05:696 (4,5) - the sound that starts at 4 is very strong and is the same kind of note as 00:05:354 (3) - . for consistency and for more emphasis on this noise ( i dont know what instrument is making this sound ;-;) which youve been following nicely with sliders is to replace those two with a slider
  3. 00:07:239 (4) - this feels really uncomfortable to play. i cant describe it. its too... rotational following the previous 2 parts. like i know rotation is good but in this part it feels off. maybe because its a tiny bit repetitive. try ctrl-g this slider and see if you like it better yourself. i think it feels more smooth and natural
  4. 00:16:668 (5,6) - ctrl g for better flow? in a sort of star formation
  5. 00:26:096 (3) - fully stack with 00:27:125 (3) -
  6. 00:46:668 (4,5,6) - the vocals here are on (4) and (5) but (5) is stacked with (6) 1/2 beats away, which, in my mind, tells me theyre connected. but theyre not o3o you could stack (5) with (4) or stack (6) with the next (1) slider instead if you want the jump between the two vocals
  7. 00:52:154 (4,5,6) - same^
  8. 00:57:639 (4,5,6) - ^ D:
  9. 01:03:125 (4,5,6) - ^ o.
  10. ill just list them all out of you want to change them :/ 01:49:754 (4,5,6) - 01:55:239 (4,5,6) - 02:00:725 (5,6,7) - but you probably wont anyways b/c it seems very much intentional 02:06:211 (5,6,7) - 03:01:068 (5,6,7) - 03:06:554 (5,6,7) - more later on but ah w/e
  11. 00:50:611 (3) - ctrl-g to better prepare for the back and forth jumps in this section?
  12. 01:05:696 (5,6,7,1) - lower distance a bit? the bigger jumps fit the ending but i its a bit too sudden and too far compared to the previous jumps. its mostly the jump between 01:05:696 (5,6) - that should be lowered imo
  13. 02:20:268 (5,1) - turn into 1/2 slider? reason similar to 00:05:696 (4,5) -
  14. 02:47:868 (1) - why is this slider ending here? o-o i can hear a light cymbal at the end but i think it would be more fitting to end it at the second cymbal at 02:48:554 - for timeline spacing and to capture both cymbals orrrrrrrrrr at the end of the vocal at 02:48:725 -
  15. 03:24:039 (2,3,4) - this jumps pretty huge o_o lower distance a bit?
  16. 03:33:296 (2,3) - ctrl-g these two sliders for better flow? (and fix where the heads of each slider starts if the change is made)
  17. 03:37:068 (7,1) - at 03:36:039 (2,3,4,5) -, you have counterclockwise rotation going on. i think if you ctrl-g (7) and (1) and keep the counterclockwise rotation that itll flow better
  18. nice diff :o only thing that reaaally bugs me (and it really bugs me) is the intentional stacking of the 2nd vocal and guitar that i talk about at 00:46:668 (4,5,6) - >< maybe its just my personal preference and im the only one who thinks so. your choice
good luck x.x i think i need a lower drain time limit lol
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Kihhou wrote:

AaaAAAAAaaa my this song is so long ;-; Love long songs ;D

[Easy]
  1. 00:32:096 (2) - add reverse arrow to this? for 2/1 spacing to next note. will need to fix spacing. something liek this? rather have it ending on the finish in the song orz
  2. im too tired from other diffs ;-; skimmed over this. pretty sure everything else is fine lol
[Normal]
  1. 00:21:125 - i think you misplaced some notes here. the strongest vocal is here and shouldnt be ignored for the drums imo. refer to 01:23:525 (2,3,4) - ?
done

[Hard]
  1. 00:10:839 (5) - whistle at head to follow previous whistle patterns for intro yep
  2. 00:11:182 (6) - whistle. same reason ^
  3. 00:50:611 (3) - youre putting a pretty strong vocal on the tail. normally this would be fine for longer sliders following a stronger vocal but theres also no follow up. as in theres a pause after the strong vocal which can be a bit misleading since it's expected for there to be something immediately afterwards, especially after you had 00:44:439 (1,2,3) - where the circle (2) continues off the vocal tail. so you may want to add a circle at 00:51:125 - and uh change up the rhythm. the next two points below is also related changed
  4. 00:50:611 (3) - strong vocal here. represent by using slider head?
  5. 00:51:811 - skipped right over a vocal here soooo for all 3, i suggest another rhythm. that is only if you want to change for all three above
  6. 01:01:582 (3,4) - point (3) at (4) more directly? okeh
  7. 01:21:468 (5) - change the direction it's pointing for better flow? did something similar
  8. 01:54:554 (7) - similar to the one above, the pause isnt expected and can confuse some people. aaanddd below changed
  9. 01:54:382 - strongest vocal is here but it's not really standing out in any way like a slider head. maybe try this rhythm? delete 01:54:382 (6) - and move the reverse slider to where that circle was. then add a circle at 01:54:896 - and stack it ontop of the head of slider at 01:55:239 - for an antijump. this way the an antijump will represent the pause instead of a slider tail
  10. 00:53:696 (4) - replace with a 1/1 slider? this note is long and drawn out for both the vocal and the guitar instead of a hit and pause I like it the current way it is, provides a somewhat relaxing feel before the 1.6x ds jumps ahead of it
  11. 01:56:782 (4) - ^^^^
  12. 03:02:611 (4) - same ^
  13. 03:24:554 (4) - ^
[Insane]
  1. hp drain -1? 7 seems a bit brutal for its jumps and low hit object density lets try 6.5 for a new change ;D
  2. 00:05:696 (4,5) - the sound that starts at 4 is very strong and is the same kind of note as 00:05:354 (3) - . for consistency and for more emphasis on this noise ( i dont know what instrument is making this sound ;-;) which youve been following nicely with sliders is to replace those two with a slider makes sense alright
  3. 00:07:239 (4) - this feels really uncomfortable to play. i cant describe it. its too... rotational following the previous 2 parts. like i know rotation is good but in this part it feels off. maybe because its a tiny bit repetitive. try ctrl-g this slider and see if you like it better yourself. i think it feels more smooth and natural Feels pretty natural to me the way it currently is
  4. 00:16:668 (5,6) - ctrl g for better flow? in a sort of star formation did something else
  5. 00:26:096 (3) - fully stack with 00:27:125 (3) - think i fixed it
  6. 00:46:668 (4,5,6) - the vocals here are on (4) and (5) but (5) is stacked with (6) 1/2 beats away, which, in my mind, tells me theyre connected. but theyre not o3o you could stack (5) with (4) or stack (6) with the next (1) slider instead if you want the jump between the two vocals haha i was staying super consistent with that, i'll make it so that 4 and 5 are stacked for all
  7. 00:52:154 (4,5,6) - same^
  8. 00:57:639 (4,5,6) - ^ D:
  9. 01:03:125 (4,5,6) - ^ o.
  10. ill just list them all out of you want to change them :/ 01:49:754 (4,5,6) - 01:55:239 (4,5,6) - 02:00:725 (5,6,7) - but you probably wont anyways b/c it seems very much intentional 02:06:211 (5,6,7) - 03:01:068 (5,6,7) - 03:06:554 (5,6,7) - more later on but ah w/e
  11. 00:50:611 (3) - ctrl-g to better prepare for the back and forth jumps in this section? play fine the way it currently is imo
  12. 01:05:696 (5,6,7,1) - lower distance a bit? the bigger jumps fit the ending but i its a bit too sudden and too far compared to the previous jumps. its mostly the jump between 01:05:696 (5,6) - that should be lowered imo lowered 6 to 7, i think 5 to 6 is fine
  13. 02:20:268 (5,1) - turn into 1/2 slider? reason similar to 00:05:696 (4,5) - just realised the rhythm was weird, changed it around
  14. 02:47:868 (1) - why is this slider ending here? o-o i can hear a light cymbal at the end but i think it would be more fitting to end it at the second cymbal at 02:48:554 - for timeline spacing and to capture both cymbals orrrrrrrrrr at the end of the vocal at 02:48:725 - hmm changed, i dunno it felt natural to me to have it at start when i originally made it, but now i look at it again, it is somewhat weird
  15. 03:24:039 (2,3,4) - this jumps pretty huge o_o lower distance a bit? just a little ;)
  16. 03:33:296 (2,3) - ctrl-g these two sliders for better flow? (and fix where the heads of each slider starts if the change is made)
  17. 03:37:068 (7,1) - at 03:36:039 (2,3,4,5) -, you have counterclockwise rotation going on. i think if you ctrl-g (7) and (1) and keep the counterclockwise rotation that itll flow better I used 03:36:382 (3,4,5) - to switch the rotation to kind of give a signal that it's finishing ;3 so i'll leave it as a clockwise finish :)
  18. nice diff :o only thing that reaaally bugs me (and it really bugs me) is the intentional stacking of the 2nd vocal and guitar that i talk about at 00:46:668 (4,5,6) - >< maybe its just my personal preference and im the only one who thinks so. your choice fixed all makes a lot of sense for that double vocal to be stacked ;)
good luck x.x i think i need a lower drain time limit lol
Thanks a lot for helping me out XD
sammy711
OK Here I am
From BMT.
I will mainly concentrate on pattern and rhythm (for kamisamaaa had mod the sound).


[Insane]
First check all life-bar-touching sliders and circles

00:02:268 (1,2,3,1) - make those four notes a parallelogram to make this part much clearer. Move 00:03:296 (1) - to (344,320) can do it
00:10:325 (1,2,3,4,5) - the end of 1 and 2 3 4 5 should form a star. But now apparently 00:11:011 (4,5) - and 00:10:325 (1,3) - is not parallel. You should realign these notes to keep beauty.
00:14:096 (4) - This could be the most weird part among the whole song because that where a downbeat sits (00:14:268 -) is completely hidden in the slider.
I know you are trying to follow the vocal, but 00:12:039 (2) - like the note here still exists. So this will only lead to confuse players because of they don't know when to follow the vocal and when to follow the drums
I highly recommend you change the rhythm here to↓
And if I were you, I would use pattern
to stress 00:14:268 (5) - . And stack 00:14:268 (5,3) - for beauty. And of course this will avoid ruining the DS of 1.60
00:23:182 (2,3,4) - The distance gap makes this whole pattern looks ugly.
And whats more, the sudden DS change at 00:24:039 (1,2,3,4) - is just so sharp.You don't do this in the other part of the song. Get the 1.60 back will be better.
00:49:925 (1,3) - Rotate this one to get 00:49:754 (6,3) -
01:14:954 (2,3,4) - inconsistent DS here. Move 01:15:468 (3) - down to keep the DS without breaking the blanket
03:12:039 (4,5,2) - stack

I think this one need some work on pattern more
It is not considerate to scatter notes here and there. They should create a system
Some stack does not fit the flow, maybe you can try throw away those stack and make a new flow at those place
Most DS-keeping is not necessary for the Insane diff. You don't need to hold DS so tightly
like this 01:54:382 (1,6) - You can easily stack them by moving 01:55:582 (6) -

That's all my suggestions. Hope this could get ranked
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

sammy711 wrote:

OK Here I am
From BMT.
I will mainly concentrate on pattern and rhythm (for kamisamaaa had mod the sound).


[Insane]
First check all life-bar-touching sliders and circles

00:02:268 (1,2,3,1) - make those four notes a parallelogram to make this part much clearer. Move 00:03:296 (1) - to (344,320) can do it done
00:10:325 (1,2,3,4,5) - the end of 1 and 2 3 4 5 should form a star. But now apparently 00:11:011 (4,5) - and 00:10:325 (1,3) - is not parallel. You should realign these notes to keep beauty. fixed (rotate it 17 degrees and it's pretty much a star
00:14:096 (4) - This could be the most weird part among the whole song because that where a downbeat sits (00:14:268 -) is completely hidden in the slider.
I know you are trying to follow the vocal, but 00:12:039 (2) - like the note here still exists. So this will only lead to conf use players because of they don't know when to follow the vocal and when to follow the drums agreed!
I highly recommend you change the rhythm here to↓
And if I were you, I would use pattern
to stress 00:14:268 (5) - . And stack 00:14:268 (5,3) - for beauty. And of course this will avoid ruining the DS of 1.60
00:23:182 (2,3,4) - The distance gap makes this whole pattern looks ugly.
And whats more, the sudden DS change at 00:24:039 (1,2,3,4) - is just so sharp.You don't do this in the other part of the song. Get the 1.60 back will be better. changed
00:49:925 (1,3) - Rotate this one to get 00:49:754 (6,3) - did a few changes
01:14:954 (2,3,4) - inconsistent DS here. Move 01:15:468 (3) - down to keep the DS without breaking the blanket fixed
03:12:039 (4,5,2) - stack done

I think this one need some work on pattern more
It is not considerate to scatter notes here and there. They should create a system
Some stack does not fit the flow, maybe you can try throw away those stack and make a new flow at those place
Most DS-keeping is not necessary for the Insane diff. You don't need to hold DS so tightly
like this 01:54:382 (1,6) - You can easily stack them by moving 01:55:582 (6) - thing is that 6 stacks with 2 01:55:582 (6,2) -

That's all my suggestions. Hope this could get ranked
thanks! I'll reconsider some of my patterns
Indeed_old_1
Hello, from my Queue~

[General]

When I first opened the map, all I saw was little green lines xD Are all of those inherited timing points necessary? Also, I think only during Kiai time should the audio be at 80% or above, since it is the most powerful part of the song. Also, more than 1/3 of your map is in Kiai time, consider changing that.

[Easy]

  • Change CS to 2
    00:01:925 (2,1) - blanket these, like [ur=http://puu.sh/9AMkX.jpg]this?[/url]
    00:08:782 (1,2) - blanket
    00:46:496 - add a circle here, feels kinda empty
    00:51:296 (4,1) - blanket
    00:58:154 (1,2,3) - could blanket these
    01:24:725 (4) - I see what you were going for, but I think starting a slider on a red tick is a little too hard for an easy map.
    01:35:696 (4) - same thing here
    01:42:039 (1,1) - could blanket these
    01:57:468 (2,1) - blanket, like this
    02:06:725 (1,2) - blanket
    02:17:696 - this whole part here doesn't really need to be in Kiai time, it's not the chorus of the song and doesn't feel powerful enough.
    03:08:439 (3,1) - blanket
[Normal]

  • Change AR to 4
    Change SV to 1.00, it's too fast for a Normal difficulty.
    You'll have to resnap your sliders to account for change in SV.
    I'm not sure I can really mod this because everything just feels too fast, I'll try though.
    00:16:496 (5) - this would feel better as a 1/2 reverse slider, but that may be too hard for a normal.
    01:29:011 (2,3) - blanket
    01:54:039 (3,4) - blanket
    02:17:696 - Again, Kiai time is not needed here.
    02:27:982 (4,1) - blanket these better
    02:46:496 (3) - move to the left for more symmetry
    03:28:668 (5,1) - blanket
[Hard]

  • 01:47:182 (3,4,5,6) - make this into a 1/4 reversing slider, streams are a little too much for a hard difficulty, even if it's small.
    02:05:696 (7,8) - could blanket these better
    02:17:696 - Kiai time not needed.
    02:23:182 (1,2,3) - blanket these better
    02:26:268 - here you could use a smaller sv, not too much, maybe .90? it's softer here and would have a nice effect
    02:36:896 - you could go back to normal sv here, if you implement that^ change
    03:07:068 (1,2,3) - blanket
[Insane]

  • This difficulty is made very nicely, the only thing I have to add is the Kiai time here 02:17:696 is not needed.
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Indeed wrote:

Hello, from my Queue~

[General]

When I first opened the map, all I saw was little green lines xD Are all of those inherited timing points necessary? Also, I think only during Kiai time should the audio be at 80% or above, since it is the most powerful part of the song. Also, more than 1/3 of your map is in Kiai time, consider changing that.
Most green lines are necessary for changing the volume and for the fact that i used multiple hitsounds QQ, I think the kiai time is currently fine.
[Easy]

  • Change CS to 2 that would introduce a lot of overlaps, so no
    00:01:925 (2,1) - blanket these, like [ur=http://puu.sh/9AMkX.jpg]this?[/url] since it's a new chord, i rather keep it as it currently is
    00:08:782 (1,2) - blanket hmm??
    00:46:496 - add a circle here, feels kinda empty changed
    00:51:296 (4,1) - blanket forced it ;3
    00:58:154 (1,2,3) - could blanket these nah I like it the way it is atm
    01:24:725 (4) - I see what you were going for, but I think starting a slider on a red tick is a little too hard for an easy map. Will consider it
    01:35:696 (4) - same thing here
    01:42:039 (1,1) - could blanket these nope
    01:57:468 (2,1) - blanket, like this broke the flow intentionally as it is a new stanza
    02:06:725 (1,2) - blanket would ruin the blanket with 02:07:068 (2,3) -
    02:17:696 - this whole part here doesn't really need to be in Kiai time, it's not the chorus of the song and doesn't feel powerful enough. I think it works fine and is definitely powerful enough since it is the guitar solo/the bridge of the song which i tend to like having in kiai time. (applies to all diffs)
    03:08:439 (3,1) - blanketnew stanza, so no


[Normal]

  • Change AR to 4 ar5 is fine (I used other maps for reference)
    Change SV to 1.00, it's too fast for a Normal difficulty.
    You'll have to resnap your sliders to account for change in SV. No this, will require way too much effort for little benefit. I think sv 1.2 fits fine for the normal (used other songs as references). Also easy makes up for the easier difficulty out of this mapset, so i'll be leaving it as it currently is.
    I'm not sure I can really mod this because everything just feels too fast, I'll try though.
    00:16:496 (5) - this would feel better as a 1/2 reverse slider, but that may be too hard for a normal. nah
    01:29:011 (2,3) - blanket was intentional again, read up^^^
    01:54:039 (3,4) - blanket ^
    02:17:696 - Again, Kiai time is not needed here.
    02:27:982 (4,1) - blanket these better already is?
    02:46:496 (3) - move to the left for more symmetry fixed
    03:28:668 (5,1) - blanketnope
[Hard]

  • 01:47:182 (3,4,5,6) - make this into a 1/4 reversing slider, streams are a little too much for a hard difficulty, even if it's small. had complaints about hard not being hard enough on previous maps. I honestly think this 5 note stream is fine and you can definitely hear it in the song
    02:05:696 (7,8) - could blanket these better agreed, but i like the way it plays atm~soz
    02:17:696 - Kiai time not needed.
    02:23:182 (1,2,3) - blanket these better would ruin the current flow that i used ;3
    02:26:268 - here you could use a smaller sv, not too much, maybe .90? it's softer here and would have a nice effect Was thinking about it when i was mapping it, but i wanted to stay consistent at the same time ;_;. Will consider it.
    02:36:896 - you could go back to normal sv here, if you implement that^ change
    03:07:068 (1,2,3) - blanket would break the flow~
Changed hp to 5.5 after seeing people die in multiplayer on this

[Insane]

  • This difficulty is made very nicely, the only thing I have to add is the Kiai time here 02:17:696 is not needed.
Thank you for modding my map :) :) :)
-Teina-
IRCMOD for Insane
forgot to savelog. :cry:

Hard
  1. 00:54:039 - add note ? it can keep the rhythm.
  2. 00:54:896 (7,8,9) - should be smooth.like with 03:03:811 (7,8,9) -
  3. 03:02:954 - add note ?
  4. 03:24:896 - add note ?

Normal
  1. 01:17:182 - add note ? because it is faster than 01:15:296 (2,3) - (rhythm)

Easy
  1. 00:04:668 (3) - end at 00:05:696 - may be well.
  2. 00:11:182 - add note ?
  3. 02:46:496 (3) - try this.
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

tellertheworld wrote:

IRCMOD for Insane
forgot to savelog. :cry:=P

Hard
  1. 00:54:039 - add note ? it can keep the rhythm. nothing in the music plays there ;_;, rather keep it as it currently is to provide emphasis on the voice
  2. 00:54:896 (7,8,9) - should be smooth.like with 03:03:811 (7,8,9) - true, but i think the way it currently plays is good and i like stacking the 00:54:896 (6,8) - on the previous slider
  3. 03:02:954 - add note ? same reason as above
  4. 03:24:896 - add note ?

Normal
  1. 01:17:182 - add note ? because it is faster than 01:15:296 (2,3) - (rhythm) Will consider it. Don't exactly want a note there since it may be a bit difficult to hit that note since it's on a red tick for normal

Easy
  1. 00:04:668 (3) - end at 00:05:696 - may be well. There's a small finish sound or something there which i wanted that slider to emphasise. Similar to 00:15:639 (2,1) -
  2. 00:11:182 - add note ? Okay -too bad it's an overlap though :(-
  3. 02:46:496 (3) - try this. Hmmm I will also consider this, I really want to follow the vocals for that, dunno why lol
Thanks! :) :) :)
Bloodmoon_old_1
I still gotta mod the other diffs, remind me sometime ^^
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Bloodmoon wrote:

I still gotta mod the other diffs, remind me sometime ^^
You can do them whenever you want :) :) :)
xpshh
Nice Map and Song :)
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

xpshh wrote:

Nice Map and Song :)
Thanks!
Garven
[General]
<3 the tick sounds
I'd recommend tick rate 2 for this song if not for those tick sounds
You should add a spinner somewhere in these maps so that you don't have permanent top scores.

[Easy]
00:11:182 (3,1) - It would be best if you didn't overlap objects so much with each other in easier difficulties.
00:34:839 (1) - Remove new combo
00:48:811 - You can head the sliderslide at this point
00:51:554 - ^ There are quite a few more. Should be fairly easy to fix up.
01:14:611 - End the break here


[Hard]
OD +1 or 2
00:41:696 (2,3) - This anti-jump intended? It's kinda weird to play
01:44:782 (2,3) - ^

[Insane]
00:16:325 (3,4,5,6) - Kind of sad that you used these kinds of patterns during filler parts instead of accenting something cool in the song.
00:42:725 (1) - Try to have this slider not fold into itself so much. Also I found the shape to not really fit what's going on in the song...
00:53:696 (1) - Why is this slowed down? It breaks the flow and really messes with spacing judgement at 00:53:696 (1,2) -
01:04:668 (1) - ^ etc.

Really solid set here! Great work!
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Garven wrote:

[General]
<3 the tick sounds
I'd recommend tick rate 2 for this song if not for those tick sounds
You should add a spinner somewhere in these maps so that you don't have permanent top scores.

[Easy]
00:11:182 (3,1) - It would be best if you didn't overlap objects so much with each other in easier difficulties.
00:34:839 (1) - Remove new combo
00:48:811 - You can head the sliderslide at this point
00:51:554 - ^ There are quite a few more. Should be fairly easy to fix up.
01:14:611 - End the break here


[Hard]
OD +1 or 2
00:41:696 (2,3) - This anti-jump intended? It's kinda weird to play
01:44:782 (2,3) - ^

[Insane]
00:16:325 (3,4,5,6) - Kind of sad that you used these kinds of patterns during filler parts instead of accenting something cool in the song.
00:42:725 (1) - Try to have this slider not fold into itself so much. Also I found the shape to not really fit what's going on in the song...
00:53:696 (1) - Why is this slowed down? It breaks the flow and really messes with spacing judgement at 00:53:696 (1,2) -
01:04:668 (1) - ^ etc.

Really solid set here! Great work!
Will fix these when I get back from school today
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Garven wrote:

[General]
<3 the tick sounds
I'd recommend tick rate 2 for this song if not for those tick sounds
You should add a spinner somewhere in these maps so that you don't have permanent top scores. I put them at the end of the choruses~

[Easy]
00:11:182 (3,1) - It would be best if you didn't overlap objects so much with each other in easier difficulties. Okay fixed
00:34:839 (1) - Remove new combo My bad, Done!
00:48:811 - You can head the sliderslide at this point Not sure what you mean by that. I'll ask in-game if I find you or you can respond here
00:51:554 - ^ There are quite a few more. Should be fairly easy to fix up.
01:14:611 - End the break here Done


[Hard]
OD +1 or 2 Hmm I'll raise it, but by only 0.5 since Insane is already set at OD 7
00:41:696 (2,3) - This anti-jump intended? It's kinda weird to play Woops, I'll fix both of them up as they weren't intended now I rethink about it
01:44:782 (2,3) - ^

[Insane]
00:16:325 (3,4,5,6) - Kind of sad that you used these kinds of patterns during filler parts instead of accenting something cool in the song.orz ~ I blame mapping the map on different days >.<
00:42:725 (1) - Try to have this slider not fold into itself so much. Also I found the shape to not really fit what's going on in the song ...Alright I tried to change it a little. When I first heard the song, I said to myself that I wanted a weird shaped and slow slider for that specific part of the song :P
00:53:696 (1) - Why is this slowed down? It breaks the flow and really messes with spacing judgement at 00:53:696 (1,2) - It's to emphasise when she stretches out the vocals, it plays fairly naturally to me =O~
01:04:668 (1) - ^ etc.

Really solid set here! Great work!
Thanks ;DDDDDDDD!
Garven

[Vincent] wrote:

[Easy]
00:48:811 - You can head the sliderslide at this point Not sure what you mean by that. I'll ask in-game if I find you or you can respond here
00:51:554 - ^ There are quite a few more. Should be fairly easy to fix up.
I meant "hear" sorry. If you listen, you can hear the slider track momentarily and it sounds weird.
01:14:611 - End the break here Done
I guess adding a circle works too, but I had just meant dragging the start of the break at that point.

[Hard]
OD +1 or 2 Hmm I'll raise it, but by only 0.5 since Insane is already set at OD 7
I had meant to say OD +1 or 2 on the Insane too. AR 9 OD 7 is pretty unbalanced.

[Insane]
So yeah, OD +1 or 2.
00:53:696 (1) - Why is this slowed down? It breaks the flow and really messes with spacing judgement at 00:53:696 (1,2) - It's to emphasise when she stretches out the vocals, it plays fairly naturally to me =O~
01:04:668 (1) - ^ etc.
I didn't like them much because you have such a high velocity going on and then you go into this really short slider that just breaks all of that momentum.
Kibbleru
Fwump
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Garven wrote:

[Vincent] wrote:

[Easy]
00:48:811 - You can head the sliderslide at this point Not sure what you mean by that. I'll ask in-game if I find you or you can respond here
00:51:554 - ^ There are quite a few more. Should be fairly easy to fix up.
I meant "hear" sorry. If you listen, you can hear the slider track momentarily and it sounds weird.
Added a new blank sliderslider hitsound for that custom number or whatever it's called. Should be fixed. (Soft-sliderslide 2 and the other custom numbers I used just in case)
01:14:611 - End the break here Done
I guess adding a circle works too, but I had just meant dragging the start of the break at that point.
LOL woops. I guess I'll leave it the way it is currently


[Hard]
OD +1 or 2 Hmm I'll raise it, but by only 0.5 since Insane is already set at OD 7
I had meant to say OD +1 or 2 on the Insane too. AR 9 OD 7 is pretty unbalanced.
Hard is now OD7 and Insane is OD8!


[Insane]
So yeah, OD +1 or 2.
00:53:696 (1) - Why is this slowed down? It breaks the flow and really messes with spacing judgement at 00:53:696 (1,2) - It's to emphasise when she stretches out the vocals, it plays fairly naturally to me =O~
01:04:668 (1) - ^ etc.
I didn't like them much because you have such a high velocity going on and then you go into this really short slider that just breaks all of that momentum.
Through the multiple play tests I've spectated, I haven't seen anyone struggle with it or say anything about it, so I prefer to have it the way it current way it is. If it really needs to be changed, I'll be willing to do so
Changes Applied, thanks!
Garven

Kibbleru wrote:

I like big OTN
Kinshara
Congrats on bubble!
Zero__wind
hue~
Topic Starter
[Vincent]
Thanks!!!! :D :D :D :D
Kibbleru

Garven wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:

I am an eloquent son of a beachfront property.
i never said that D:
kamisamaaa
wait for this ranked :)
OSU need more yuikonnu!
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

kamisamaaa wrote:

wait for this ranked :)
OSU need more yuikonnu!
:D
litoluna
go go :D
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

litoluna wrote:

go go :D
your map too <3! gogo :D
Kinshara
Rank soon pls
Topic Starter
[Vincent]

Kinshara wrote:

Rank soon pls
soon™
Zero__wind
We did a few pattern changes, added some NC, added tons of claps, and changed the title to "fragile garven"
Congratz on the 1st ranked.
clap practicing
20:26 Zero__wind: hello Vincent, am I too late again?
20:31 [Vincent]: oh i'm in a cs game
20:31 [Vincent]: but i can mod at the same time
20:31 [Vincent]: ;D
20:34 Zero__wind: lol that's pro
20:34 [Vincent]: haha
20:35 Zero__wind: won't take you much time I suppose
20:35 Zero__wind: jsut some missing hitsounds and minor stuff
20:36 [Vincent]: alright
20:36 Zero__wind: are you ready then?
20:36 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/420793 Primary - fragile garden [Insane]]
20:37 [Vincent]: yeah
20:37 [Vincent]: i'll mgiht be afk in like 2 min intervals
20:37 [Vincent]: i might be*
20:37 [Vincent]: if im in a round
20:37 Zero__wind: fine
20:37 [Vincent]: i can still mod thoguh
20:38 Zero__wind: ok let's do this then
20:38 Zero__wind: Isane diff first
20:38 Zero__wind: 00:07:754 (5) - NC?
20:38 Zero__wind: like 00:02:268 (1) -
20:39 [Vincent]: hmm
20:39 [Vincent]: should i do 4?
20:39 [Vincent]: or 5
20:39 Zero__wind: 5 I think?
20:39 [Vincent]: alright did it
20:39 [Vincent]: yeah i did 5
20:39 Zero__wind: cause from that beat, the rhythm gets less intense
20:40 Zero__wind: good
20:40 Zero__wind: 00:16:325 (3,4,5,6) -
20:40 Zero__wind: move the claps from 4&6 to 3&5 ?
20:40 Zero__wind: I think it will fit the music better
20:41 [Vincent]: yep
20:41 [Vincent]: my mistake
20:41 Zero__wind: 01:33:811 (1) - missign clap on head I think
20:41 Zero__wind: you did it at 01:28:325 (1) -
20:42 [Vincent]: yeah
20:42 Zero__wind: 01:44:782 (3) - maybe use sof finish addition?
20:42 [Vincent]: fixed
20:42 [Vincent]: oh shit
20:42 [Vincent]: yeah
20:43 Zero__wind: I remember there're soft ones in Hard diff
20:43 [Vincent]: hmm will have to fix it
20:43 Zero__wind: oh and is this "ding~" intended? 01:47:011 (4) -
20:44 [Vincent]: yep
20:44 Zero__wind: ok then
20:44 [Vincent]: do i ahve to
20:44 [Vincent]: fix this? 00:05:696 (4,2) -
20:44 [Vincent]: apparently some guy said it's not rankable
20:45 Zero__wind: let me test
20:45 [Vincent]: alright
20:45 Zero__wind: I think it's ok
20:45 Zero__wind: don't worry
20:45 [Vincent]: hmm alright
20:47 Zero__wind: maybe CTRL+G here? 03:00:382 (2,3) -
20:47 Zero__wind: plays good to me
20:47 [Vincent]: yeah makes a cleaner pattern too
20:47 [Vincent]: alright
20:48 Zero__wind: 03:03:468 (3) - missing clap here I think
20:49 [Vincent]: yep
20:49 [Vincent]: surprised i missed them
20:49 [Vincent]: rofl
20:49 Zero__wind: it's common
20:49 Zero__wind: I've seen so many cases
20:49 [Vincent]: must've been tired
20:50 Zero__wind: many hitsounds missing when already bubbled lol
20:51 [Vincent]: haha
20:53 Zero__wind: that's all for Insane
20:53 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432866 Primary - fragile garden [Hard]]
20:54 Zero__wind: 00:39:639 (4) - missing clap on head
20:55 [Vincent]: alright
20:55 Zero__wind: 00:42:725 (6) - add NC on this to indicate sv change?
20:55 [Vincent]: hmm true
20:55 [Vincent]: missed it
20:57 Zero__wind: 00:49:068 (6) - missing clap on head as well lol
20:57 Zero__wind: 00:59:525 (4) - ^
20:57 [Vincent]: ;_;
20:57 [Vincent]: orz
20:57 [Vincent]: lol
20:57 Zero__wind: and 01:22:839 (1) - ,same point as Insane
20:58 Zero__wind: 01:28:325 (1) - ^ all missing clap
20:58 [Vincent]: the clap?
20:58 [Vincent]: O.O
20:58 Zero__wind: yeah
20:58 [Vincent]: no idea how i missed those
20:58 [Vincent]: lol
20:58 Zero__wind: 01:33:811 (1) -
20:58 Zero__wind: all about claps
20:58 [Vincent]: weow
21:01 Zero__wind: 01:45:639 (5) - not sure if want to move it like this http://puu.sh/aURpf/2b9bd3ee70.jpg
21:02 [Vincent]: like above it?
21:02 [Vincent]: above 01:46:325 (1) - ?
21:02 Zero__wind: yeah
21:02 Zero__wind: I think that's like 01:44:439 (1,2) -
21:03 Zero__wind: 01:44:439 (1,2) - down, 01:45:125 (3,4) - up, 01:45:639 (5,6) - down
21:04 [Vincent]: wait
21:04 [Vincent]: imconfused
21:04 [Vincent]: wat about
21:04 [Vincent]: the distance snapping
21:05 Zero__wind: oh, ah yes, that would break that
21:05 Zero__wind: forget about that then~
21:06 Zero__wind: the small jump from slider doesn't really matter though, it's also good to keep it consistent like the current
21:07 [Vincent]: hmm
21:07 Zero__wind: I thought those beats with finish sounds are fine with jumps
21:07 [Vincent]: i'll see
21:07 [Vincent]: for a way
21:07 [Vincent]: around it
21:08 Zero__wind: ok
21:09 [Vincent]: http://puu.sh/aUROa/a93d324afb.jpg
21:09 [Vincent]: move it more to the right
21:09 [Vincent]: distance between these two are like 0.6 thoguh 01:45:811 (6,1) -
21:10 Zero__wind: I think that doesn't even matter
21:10 [Vincent]: alright
21:10 Zero__wind: ok
21:10 Zero__wind: 02:54:896 (7) - need NC to divide long combo set I think
21:10 Zero__wind: like in Insane
21:11 [Vincent]: alright
21:12 Zero__wind: 03:36:039 (1) - missing clap on head
21:13 Zero__wind: and nothing else for Hard
21:14 [Vincent]: alright
21:14 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/433416 Primary - fragile garden [Normal]]
21:15 Zero__wind: you need S;C1?
21:15 Zero__wind: 00:06:039 -
21:15 Zero__wind: for that "ding~" sound
21:16 [Vincent]: hmm
21:16 [Vincent]: think i planned for it not to have it
21:16 [Vincent]: i will chagne though
21:16 Zero__wind: up to you
21:16 Zero__wind: I just found it inconsistent with Insane
21:16 [Vincent]: yeah
21:17 Zero__wind: 01:00:039 (4) - missing clap on both head and tail
21:17 [Vincent]: s:c6 btw
21:17 [Vincent]: forthe ding i think
21:17 [Vincent]: wait
21:17 [Vincent]: nvm,
21:17 Zero__wind: oh
21:17 [Vincent]: yeah
21:18 [Vincent]: i think it's s:C6
21:18 [Vincent]: so i have the bass too
21:18 Zero__wind: yes S:C6
21:18 [Vincent]: alright
21:18 [Vincent]: just finished
21:18 [Vincent]: my cs game
21:18 Zero__wind: otherwise the clap went wrong
21:18 [Vincent]: rofl
21:18 [Vincent]: yeah
21:18 Zero__wind: ok, missing clap again, 01:02:782 (5) -
21:18 Zero__wind: both on head and tail
21:19 Zero__wind: 01:40:668 (4) - missing clap on head
21:19 [Vincent]: fixed
21:19 Zero__wind: 01:46:325 (4) - maybe use normal sample without clap for its head
21:19 Zero__wind: the clap sounds too soft here to me
21:20 Zero__wind: barely audioable
21:20 [Vincent]: hmm
21:20 [Vincent]: i used drum hitsound
21:20 [Vincent]: on insane
21:20 [Vincent]: should i do that for normal
21:21 Zero__wind: hmm
21:21 Zero__wind: I'm fine with that drums
21:21 Zero__wind: sounds stronger
21:21 [Vincent]: drum claps
21:22 [Vincent]: yeah
21:22 [Vincent]: hmm
21:22 [Vincent]: should it be
21:22 [Vincent]: 2 drum claps then finish
21:22 [Vincent]: or 3 drum claps
21:23 [Vincent]: it sounds better with 2 claps then finish
21:23 [Vincent]: ;3
21:23 Zero__wind: hmm
21:23 Zero__wind: I think a drum finish followed by two drum clap sounds the best
21:24 [Vincent]: yeah
21:24 [Vincent]: alright
21:24 [Vincent]: i'll change for insane/hard too
21:24 Zero__wind: the first beat is more like a kickdrum sound
21:24 Zero__wind: good
21:24 [Vincent]: yeah
21:27 Zero__wind: all good now?
21:27 [Vincent]: yep
21:27 Zero__wind: ok then back to Normal
21:28 Zero__wind: 02:25:925 - blah
21:28 Zero__wind: you neeed all those hitsounds here
21:29 [Vincent]: O.O
21:29 [Vincent]: lmao
21:29 Zero__wind: yeah, it's so epic to miss all of them lol
21:29 [Vincent]: magically disappeared ;_;
21:29 [Vincent]: must've rushed the hitsounds
21:29 [Vincent]: and mashed qwe twice
21:29 [Vincent]: rofl
21:29 Zero__wind: cool
21:29 Zero__wind: 02:37:925 - missing clap
21:30 Zero__wind: 02:39:296 (5) - ^
21:30 Zero__wind: 02:44:782 (5) - ^
21:30 [Vincent]: ;o
21:31 Zero__wind: 03:08:782 - misused clap =.=
21:31 Zero__wind: 03:27:982 - ^ need to remove them
21:31 [Vincent]: yep
21:32 [Vincent]: my hands go all weird
21:32 [Vincent]: hitsounding for 4 minutes gets me confused sometimes
21:32 [Vincent]: lol
21:32 [Vincent]: stuck to a specific routine
21:32 [Vincent]: but then sometimes i get lost
21:32 [Vincent]: ;_;
21:32 Zero__wind: yeah
21:33 Zero__wind: 00:05:354 (4) - did I mention this, all about claps lol
21:33 [Vincent]: rip
21:33 Zero__wind: and 00:46:154 -
21:34 Zero__wind: ok I missed these two the first time
21:34 [Vincent]: lmfao
21:34 [Vincent]: surprised i did so many of those
21:34 [Vincent]: ;_;
21:34 [Vincent]: doing a quick check myself on all of them atm
21:35 Zero__wind: you will need practice clapping after getting this ranked
21:35 Zero__wind: xD
21:35 [Vincent]: i've improved a lot
21:35 [Vincent]: after making this honestly
21:35 [Vincent]: this was like my first map i did hitsounding properly
21:35 [Vincent]: and some guy helped out with it
21:35 Zero__wind: yeah that's common
21:35 [Vincent]: i dont use claps for bass anymore
21:35 Zero__wind: new mappers can not realize those mistakes
21:36 [Vincent]: i do finishes
21:36 [Vincent]: easier to put in claps for snares too
21:36 Zero__wind: I used to misuse them as well
21:36 [Vincent]: yeah
21:36 [Vincent]: i guess it also depends on how many hitsounds you're dealing with too
21:36 [Vincent]: with this many, you're bound to make multiple mistakes as a first timer
21:36 [Vincent]: ;_;
21:36 Zero__wind: I remember when I viewed a map I made in MAY. 2013
21:36 [Vincent]: 01:00:039 (4) -
21:36 [Vincent]: missed some claps here
21:36 [Vincent]: rofl
21:37 Zero__wind: and I got so many kcik and snare drums wrong
21:37 [Vincent]: haha
21:37 [Vincent]: was it ranked?
21:37 Zero__wind: but at the time I mapped it I never recognised that
21:37 [Vincent]: 00:58:839 (2) -
21:37 [Vincent]: wtf
21:37 Zero__wind: I thought it was so good lol
21:37 [Vincent]: i got some missing bass here
21:37 Zero__wind: yeah
21:37 [Vincent]: hah
21:37 [Vincent]: mah god
21:37 [Vincent]: ;_;
21:38 Zero__wind: 01:40:668 (4) -
21:39 [Vincent]: is that confusing?
21:39 Zero__wind: not, missing clap on head? or if I've already mentioned lol
21:40 [Vincent]: probably mentioned already
21:40 [Vincent]: already on it
21:40 Zero__wind: ok
21:41 Zero__wind: then nothing else I think
21:41 [Vincent]: alright imma do a quick chcek on kiai times
21:41 Zero__wind: oh wait, 03:25:754 (5) -
21:41 [Vincent]: lol
21:42 Zero__wind: ok, all good now
21:42 [Vincent]: whistle+clap
21:42 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/434499 Primary - fragile garden [Easy]]
21:43 Zero__wind: 00:06:039 (1) - S:C6 here as you've changed that in Normal
21:44 [Vincent]: yep
21:44 Zero__wind: 00:35:868 (4) - missing clap
21:44 [Vincent]: fixed
21:45 Zero__wind: 02:06:382 - need S:C1 here
21:45 Zero__wind: or the clap went wrong
21:46 [Vincent]: yeah changed to s:c1
21:46 [Vincent]: and made s:c5 for 02:06:725 (1) -
21:46 Zero__wind: yes
21:46 [Vincent]: so many inherited lines
21:47 Zero__wind: 02:27:296 (2) - should live without the clap at reversing point
21:47 [Vincent]: slider tick hitsounding is op
21:47 Zero__wind: slidertick hell
21:47 [Vincent]: yep
21:47 [Vincent]: fixed
21:47 [Vincent]: lmao
21:48 Zero__wind: 02:44:782 (4) - S:C6 here
21:48 Zero__wind: could move 02:45:125 - to that point
21:48 [Vincent]: wait why
21:48 Zero__wind: eh
21:48 [Vincent]: theres only a clapo there
21:48 [Vincent]: already
21:48 [Vincent]: has s:c6 there too
21:49 [Vincent]: O.O
21:49 Zero__wind: eh wait
21:49 [Vincent]: lmao
21:49 Zero__wind: that beat should be a bass drum
21:49 [Vincent]: yeah
21:49 [Vincent]: it's there for my map
21:49 Zero__wind: oh ok
21:49 [Vincent]: maybe u deleted by accident or something
21:49 Zero__wind: ok will go through again
21:49 [Vincent]: wat point were u talking about?
21:50 [Vincent]: yeah
21:50 Zero__wind: ok it's fine
21:50 [Vincent]: lol
21:52 [Vincent]: 01:41:696 (3) -
21:52 [Vincent]: O.O
21:52 [Vincent]: ds needs to be fixed
21:52 Zero__wind: ah yeah
21:52 [Vincent]: and this too 01:44:439 (2) -
21:53 Zero__wind: move them together
21:53 [Vincent]: yep
21:55 Zero__wind: oh I remembered something else
21:55 Zero__wind: 01:06:468 (1) -
21:55 [Vincent]: both at x:484 y:224
21:55 [Vincent]: hmm
21:55 [Vincent]: clap?
21:56 Zero__wind: plz start spinners from the red tick instead in Easy and Normal diffs
21:56 Zero__wind: not clap
21:56 [Vincent]: oh okay
21:56 Zero__wind: 02:09:554 (1) -
21:56 [Vincent]: but for 01:06:382 (1) -
21:56 [Vincent]: i changed to sc:6 and clap
21:56 [Vincent]: so all 3 hitsounds
21:56 Zero__wind: 03:37:325 (1) -
21:56 Zero__wind: yeah
21:57 Zero__wind: start all those 3 spinners from the red tick instead
21:57 [Vincent]: alright all 3 spinners on easy/normal on red ticks now
21:57 Zero__wind: and the three in Normal
21:57 [Vincent]: start from*
21:57 Zero__wind: good
21:58 Zero__wind: I got nothing else I think, will check the folder a bit
21:58 [Vincent]: alright
21:59 [Vincent]: i'll double check ahrd
21:59 Zero__wind: so many hitsounds lol
21:59 [Vincent]: yeah
21:59 [Vincent]: cant even remember which ones which anymore
22:00 [Vincent]: changing 00:11:182 (6) - in hard to a drumfinish
22:01 Zero__wind: ok
22:01 Zero__wind: ah and
22:01 Zero__wind: would like to disable the letterbox
22:02 [Vincent]: and in normal too
22:02 [Vincent]: hmm i actually like the letter box during breaks
22:02 [Vincent]: ;_;
22:02 [Vincent]: is it bad or something
22:02 Zero__wind: no
22:02 Zero__wind: totally up to you
22:02 [Vincent]: yeah i'll keep it
22:03 Zero__wind: as long as they are consistent in all diffs
22:03 Zero__wind: ok
22:03 [Vincent]: pretty sure they are
22:03 Zero__wind: yes
22:03 Zero__wind: reset the preview time to 01:47:182 - in all diffs plz
22:03 Zero__wind: it's currently unsnapped
22:03 [Vincent]: hmm alright
22:04 Zero__wind: that's a fucking unrankable point I have to check every time
22:04 [Vincent]: lmfao
22:04 [Vincent]: must be a pain in the ass to find
22:04 [Vincent]: if u dont use notepad
22:04 [Vincent]: to figure out*
22:05 Zero__wind: yes
22:05 Zero__wind: I have to check like that every single time
22:05 Zero__wind: and something else similar
22:05 [Vincent]: wats dat
22:05 [Vincent]: =O
22:06 [Vincent]: brb getting water
22:06 Zero__wind: like hmm, widescreen support, lead-in, combo colors and sliderborders, video offset if with
22:06 Zero__wind: kk
22:08 [Vincent]: lol luckily i dont have a video \o/
22:08 Zero__wind: :3
22:08 Zero__wind: and you don't have skin
22:08 [Vincent]: haha
22:08 [Vincent]: i wanna learn how to sb
22:08 [Vincent]: like simple flahes like u did in discolor
22:08 [Vincent]: ;3
22:08 [Vincent]: they work so nicely
22:09 Zero__wind: I just learned them like a month ago
22:09 Zero__wind: lol
22:09 [Vincent]: haha
22:09 [Vincent]: is it hard
22:09 [Vincent]: or simple
22:09 [Vincent]: o.o
22:09 Zero__wind: really simple ones
22:09 Zero__wind: simple
22:09 [Vincent]: hmm i should learn them one day
22:10 Zero__wind: just remember some "fformatted" codes, nothing else
22:10 Zero__wind: fat first I copy them
22:10 [Vincent]: ;o
22:10 Zero__wind: and I can type them soon after I've copied for some times
22:11 [Vincent]: lmao
22:11 Zero__wind: last thing before update
22:11 Zero__wind: I have to check if we need capitalize the title
22:11 [Vincent]: apparently it's not supposed to be
22:12 Zero__wind: do you have source for that
22:12 [Vincent]: http://primary-yuiko.com/9th_single/garden/
22:12 [Vincent]: straight from her website
22:12 [Vincent]: ;3
22:12 Zero__wind: oh niceeeee
22:12 Zero__wind: oops I remember I once visited this site!
22:12 Zero__wind: hah
22:12 [Vincent]: LOL
22:12 [Vincent]: the other song is pretty nice to listen to too
22:12 [Vincent]: ;D
22:13 Zero__wind: ok then upload plz
22:13 [Vincent]: doesnt that break the bubble?
22:13 [Vincent]: ;O
22:13 [Vincent]: always wondered how this work
22:13 [Vincent]: s
22:13 Zero__wind: yes
22:13 Zero__wind: any update will
22:13 [Vincent]: alright
22:13 Zero__wind: we call it as "self-pop"
22:13 [Vincent]: hmm alright i'll update it
22:15 Zero__wind: sometime mappers will self-pop to do fix some minor stuff if it's found not long after getting bubbled and worth changing
22:15 [Vincent]: alright
22:15 [Vincent]: updated
22:15 [Vincent]: yeah i did it before and got garven to rebubble
22:15 Zero__wind: and they'll call the BAT who bubbled the map back to repair that
22:15 Zero__wind: yeah
22:15 [Vincent]: yeeh
22:16 Zero__wind: but at the last time you self-pop like this, I can rank it instantly if without some vital changes like timing shift
22:16 [Vincent]: ;o
22:16 [Vincent]: interesting
22:17 Zero__wind: they are rules for BATs
22:17 Zero__wind: not necessary to know them actually
22:17 [Vincent]: haha
22:18 Zero__wind: but be sure to to have a good timing before getting bubbled is always a good thing
22:19 Zero__wind: because you'll need to find one more BAT otherwise
22:19 [Vincent]: lol
22:19 [Vincent]: i actually got the timing on this map myself
22:19 [Vincent]: ;3
22:19 [Vincent]: worked out pretty nicely i guess
22:20 Zero__wind: yeah the timing is good
22:20 [Vincent]: ;D
22:51 Zero__wind: checked through
22:51 Zero__wind: one last thing in Easy 00:46:496 (4) -
22:51 Zero__wind: need a clap there lol
22:51 [Vincent]: true
22:52 Zero__wind: fix that and upload plz, everything else should be alright
22:53 [Vincent]: clap at tail right?
22:53 Zero__wind: yes
22:55 [Vincent]: alright uplodaded
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Fun, but I personally think Insane should be ar8(/.5)
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