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SAKURA*TRICK - Won(*3*)Chu KissMe! (TV Size)

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, May 19, 2014 at 8:20:57 PM

Artist: SAKURA*TRICK
Title: Won(*3*)Chu KissMe! (TV Size)
Source: 桜trick
BPM: 153
Filesize: 8188kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.65 stars, 103 notes)
  2. Normal (4.19 stars, 23 notes)
Download: SAKURA*TRICK - Won(*3*)Chu KissMe! (TV Size)
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Lust
irc modded the easy a bit

mod
21:30 Maxx: can u check out that easy now?
21:30 Lust: yeah sure
21:30 Lust: np
21:30 Lust: my connection seems a bit wobbly so if i disconnect ill try to get back as fast as i can
21:30 *Maxx is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/420166 SAKURA*TRICK - Won(*3*)Chu KissMe! (TV Size)]
21:30 Maxx: im open to criticism
21:30 Lust: just the easy?
21:31 Maxx: well
21:31 Maxx: the normal is not done
21:31 Maxx: like at all
21:31 Maxx: im maybe 10 secs in
21:32 Lust: a word of advice
21:32 Lust: map from the hardest difficulty down
21:32 Maxx: ?
21:32 Lust: so you can balance the spread evenly, and you can better plan out the hitsounds
21:32 Maxx: really? irre told me do to it the other way around
21:32 Maxx: lol
21:33 Lust: did he really say that? xD
21:33 Lust: well i guess its personal preference
21:33 Lust: but i think best is hardest downwards
21:33 Maxx: idk
21:33 Maxx: ive always started with insane because then i get to play it
21:33 Maxx: but then i get told im doing it wrong or somethinkg
21:33 Lust: i found it more fun as well
21:34 Lust: alright if you have the time, ill irc mod this with you
21:34 Lust: should take maybe 30 mins to an hour
21:34 Maxx: yea i got the tie
21:34 Maxx: time
21:34 Maxx: im just sending a friend a couple songs first
21:34 Lust: ill go over the patterns, then the rhythms, and then the combos
21:35 Lust: tell me when you are ready to start
21:35 Maxx: ok
21:35 Maxx: sec
21:35 Maxx: ok im r
21:36 Lust: first off, go in to the song setup - > design - > uncheck countdown and letterbox during breaks
21:36 Lust: no breaks, since its not necessary, and countdown seems a bit unorthodox in this day in the age of mapping
21:36 Maxx: oh yea i forgot about the countdown
21:36 Maxx: i always turn it off. but whats the letterbox
21:37 Lust: dont worry about it, it only matters when you have breaks, and maybe not even that lol
21:37 Lust: better to just always leave it off
21:37 Maxx: ok
21:37 Lust: ok now that is handled
21:37 Lust: lets get started with the patterns
21:38 Lust: 00:04:086 (1,2,3,4) - I would have a nice blanket here that completely surrounds the circles evenly
21:38 Lust: You can check this by using 00:05:262 (2,4) - approach circles
21:39 Lust: You can also up the beat snap divisor to check even further
21:39 Maxx: ok
21:39 Lust: if you want a visual representation, so that you can get an idea, check [http://lust.s-ul.eu/FbNPBS8V this] out
21:40 Lust: its a bit of a bad example, but you can see how (2)'s approach circle covers the white of the slider track
21:40 Lust: this may seem like a lot of work for something simple, but it presents a much nicer, cleaner looking map
21:41 Maxx: so should i just bring those 2 sliders in a little closer
21:42 Lust: nah no need, manipulate the slider points until the approach circle covers the border of the slider track
21:43 Lust: also be aware of the spacing, check on the top right corner to make sure everything is close to 1.00x or exact
21:45 Maxx: fuck. hold on. im having trouble getting the blanket right. xD
21:46 Lust: take your time
21:46 Maxx: i feel like such a noob right now
21:47 Lust: haha dw dw
21:47 Lust: everyone goes through this stage while learning
21:47 Lust: its best to figure out everything now, rather than struggle down the road later like I did
21:47 Maxx: is this right http://puu.sh/8K9Wz.jpg
21:48 Lust: mmmm not quite, the circle should also cover those white parts need the slider start as well
21:48 Lust: but, i guess thats really Nazi at this point so if you dont want to fix it all the way dont worry about it
21:48 Lust: the modders can sort that out
21:49 Maxx: yea ill let them do that
21:49 Maxx: lo
21:49 Maxx: l
21:50 Lust: ok anyway
21:50 Lust: 00:10:360 (1,2) - same blanketing issue here, you can use the approach circle of 00:10:360 (1,2) - to check this
21:51 Lust: after to fix this one, I won't point out any more blanketing problems
21:51 Lust: you should be able to find them all and correct them by now :D
21:52 Maxx: so at what point am i supposed to look for the ring. like when its closing in
21:52 Lust: when its near the border of the slider track
21:53 Lust: http://lust.s-ul.eu/EvhJone9 like when its like this
21:53 Maxx: ok
21:53 Lust: http://lust.s-ul.eu/TqD4ZFUz then you can manipulate the slider points around
21:53 Lust: until its perfect
21:53 Maxx: http://puu.sh/8Kaiq.jpg is this better
21:54 Lust: ya way better
21:54 Maxx: ok
21:54 Lust: now this also has more than one effect with the fixed blanket
21:54 Lust: now the slider that is blanketing the next, has a better arc and swings in to 00:12:321 (2) -
21:55 Lust: creating better flow and more snappier movement
21:55 Lust: alright, i know we havent made it to the rhythm part yet but
21:55 Lust: 00:18:007 - here begins the strong beat
21:56 Lust: 00:18:203 (1) - not here
21:56 Lust: new players will be confused here and hit too early
21:56 Lust: because they are listening to the music
21:59 Maxx: wait should i blanket 00:12:321 (2,3) - too
21:59 Lust: yes that'll be preferred
21:59 Lust: you know what would be even cooler and provides for a nice bit of structure?
21:59 Lust: 00:12:321 (2,3) - have these blanket
21:59 Lust: but also have 00:12:321 (2) - 's slider end form a triangle with 00:13:498 (3,4) -
21:59 Lust: if you can pull that off, itll look coolio
22:00 Lust: tell me when you want to move forward
22:00 Lust: ill post the logs in the thread later so you can go over it if want to
22:00 Maxx: but if i move 00:12:321 (2) - to blanket, it messes up what i did before
22:01 Maxx: and i already got the chat going into a note file
22:01 Maxx: osu does that for me for some reason
22:01 Lust: here ill give you an example of what i mean
22:02 Lust: http://lust.s-ul.eu/HonDoWzN
22:03 Maxx: http://puu.sh/8KaTz.jpg is this good
22:03 Maxx: or should i fix the triangle a little
22:03 Maxx: it looks a little off
22:03 Lust: make sure triangle is nice ye
22:03 Lust: but then again
22:03 Lust: modders will smoothen that out
22:04 Maxx: so can i turn off bs for the triangle
22:04 Maxx: and stuff like that
22:04 Lust: by bs i hope you mean ds
22:04 Lust: no, always keep distance snap on
22:06 Maxx: fuck i had it and messed it up
22:07 Maxx: ok i got it
22:07 Maxx: i think
22:07 Lust: well again modders can check this stuff
22:07 Maxx: yea
22:07 Lust: but also, dont use modders checking it as an excuse all the time
22:07 Lust: only for nazi things
22:08 Maxx: ok
22:14 Lust: ready?
22:14 Maxx: oh
22:14 Maxx: yae
22:14 Lust: 00:18:007 - 00:21:145 - as i said before, here are the strong beats in the music
22:14 Lust: you should have the sliders start here etc
22:15 Lust: 00:18:203 (1,3) - also be sure to avoid the overlap, overlaps are fine and all but only when they look clean and well executed
22:15 Lust: here its just weird flow and too sharp
22:16 Maxx: ok
22:17 Maxx: so the 2 long sliders
22:17 Maxx: have them that spread apart on the timeline?
22:17 Lust: fit it to the rhythm of the music
22:17 Lust: and adjust the spacing where need be
22:19 Maxx: ok
22:21 Lust: ready?
22:21 Maxx: ya
22:22 Lust: 00:22:909 (5,7) - here the two sliders are too close together
22:22 Lust: makes it look unclean in the low AR
22:23 Maxx: well
22:23 Maxx: sec lemme puush it
22:24 Maxx: in moving some of the things around i switched the side it was on http://puu.sh/8Kc9s.jpg is it still too close
22:25 Maxx: or were u talking about
22:25 Maxx: 00:31:929 (5,6,7) -
22:25 Lust: 00:22:909 (5,7) -
22:26 Maxx: yea i must have moved that or something
22:27 Lust: probably
22:27 Lust: 00:28:203 (3) - not a good idea to have a slider like this
22:27 Maxx: well anyways
22:28 Lust: its confusing for newer players to read since the sv slows down
22:28 Lust: i would have a regular three point slider in its place
22:28 Maxx: damnit. it took me forever to figure out how to do that right xD
22:30 Maxx: ok. i replaced it
22:31 Lust: 00:30:360 (1,2,3,4,5) - nice pattern, but five circles in a row is hard for newer players to single tap all of it
22:31 Lust: seems a bit monotonous
22:33 Maxx: so should i put a slider or 2 in there
22:35 Lust: sure
22:36 Maxx: http://puu.sh/8KcTa.jpg will this make do
22:40 Lust: yeah looks fine
22:41 Maxx: great
22:41 Lust: 00:38:596 (5,6) - turn the grid to 4 and try to make sure the bigger slider blankets the slider body of the little one
22:43 Maxx: if i got what u meant right
22:44 Maxx: is this right http://puu.sh/8Kdkw.jpg
22:45 Lust: ah no
22:45 Lust: make sure (6) covers (5) nicely
22:45 Lust: like what yuo had before
22:45 Lust: but make it more clearner
22:45 Lust: cleaner
22:45 Lust: fuck typing LOL
22:45 Maxx: ikr. lol
22:47 Maxx: should they be touching
22:47 Lust: naw
22:47 Maxx: is that what u want me to do when u say blanket the slider body
22:48 Lust: keep even grids between the two objects
22:48 Lust: sec ill show you
22:48 Lust: http://lust.s-ul.eu/jZoU7Y3o
22:49 Maxx: wasnt that how i had it before? or was mine off
22:50 Lust: yours was just a little off
22:50 Lust: turn the grid up and make sure its perf
22:51 Maxx: well damnit. i cant undo enuogh to go back to how it was
22:54 Maxx: ok ill skip that for now because i cant seem to get it right
22:55 Lust: alrighty
22:55 Maxx: how about this. do u mind if we continue this tommarrow? im kinda tired
22:56 Lust: yeah thats fine
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