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Ciyus Miapah

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2015-09-09T13:06:36+00:00

sheela901 wrote:
Fort wrote:
i will tell something about this map
1. You will never play this part 01:55:023 - if you didnt play 01:04:496 - this part. it can be more dense if im doing something like 2nd beat pattern like that (because i didnt put much jumps at first part, the jumps is far but not too much)[/color]
Hmm... it still looks weird to me. Both parts have a same tonality, so if you have a different density on one of the two parts, that would make an inconsistency to me. I guess what you want is to have the first part less intense then the second part, like with the second and last kiai. The last kiai, well, is the last kiai of the whole difficulty, and adding intensity will fit with with the map. I also feel that the vocals have added more tone. For the post-choruses, it's "meh" to me, as they are not similar to the kiais. Maybe another opinion about this could be added, but it's not obligatory. This is only my personal opinion though.

Also, 01:06:233 (7) currently sounds weird, since you skip the drum beats. You didn't do that to 01:08:759 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 01:11:128 (6,7,8,9,10,11) . They are noticeable beats like the ones I mentionned, so I think that clickable objects are worth for that.

ummm looks interesting i think since you said this thing for second time, okay i get something there
updated!

Finale

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sheela

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Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-09-10T23:27:11+00:00

Close enough, but I don't have any problem for the current update now! The mapset looks still good as new, so hopefully this will be the last time!

moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

moph 2015-09-10T23:38:35+00:00

hopefully third time's the charm
thanks again you two

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-09-10T23:41:05+00:00

YES!
Please, make it the last one.

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2015-09-11T01:19:09+00:00

re-re-reGratz xDD

Mercurial

Mercurial 2015-09-11T01:54:49+00:00

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Starfy

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Joined November 2012

Starfy 2015-09-11T02:59:38+00:00

!

Beomsan

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Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2015-09-11T07:04:10+00:00

YES YES YES!

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined July 2011

Flask 2015-09-11T09:49:51+00:00

PLEASESURVIVE

Arphimigon

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Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2015-09-11T15:10:58+00:00

~~Re-grats~~
Pls pass

Huskatron

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Joined October 2009

Huskatron 2015-09-11T16:11:52+00:00

PLEASE <3

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

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Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2015-09-15T21:51:20+00:00

Fort, it's honestly disappointing how you treated your map.

00:20:128 (5,6,7) - What has this huge jump to do in the beginning section? How does it fit in any way?
00:22:022 (3,4) - This antijump honestly fits to a really small extent.
00:24:075 (1) - Where is the emphasis? Shouldn't a jump actually be here, where a dominant sound is?
00:25:891 (8) - Now that is a way worse triplet than all of the others you had before.
00:34:654 (3) - Hitsound error (shouldn't be on tail i guess)
00:36:707 (1,2) - Looks like you've run out of ideas or patterns, but this tiny overlap, well.
00:41:444 (1) - Why is the hitsound so loud all of a sudden?
00:43:023 (1) - Somewhat not emphasized enough compared to the objects.
01:06:075 (7) - Again, missing hitsound.

Sadly, that's just subjective stuff and it's even more sad that you remapped your great intro to this and I don't see why Moph wanted to keep the new version as this is.. ugh.

Neliel

174 posts

Joined March 2012

Neliel 2015-09-16T16:47:17+00:00

Tbh. it is sad that the previous version got disqualified. There weren't "unreadable" parts like it was stated in the DQ. Readability is also subjective and should be treated like that. The current beginning seems unpolished and also plays like that. I love how the difficulty in the parts after the beginning was increased. That was well done. But the current beginning doesnt play nice and imo. it needs more modding. I tried to help out, but I am not experienced enough in modding to mod it as much as it needs.

Mercurial

Mercurial 2015-09-16T23:06:51+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Fort, it's honestly disappointing how you treated your map.

00:20:128 (5,6,7) - What has this huge jump to do in the beginning section? How does it fit in any way?
00:22:022 (3,4) - This antijump honestly fits to a really small extent.
00:24:075 (1) - Where is the emphasis? Shouldn't a jump actually be here, where a dominant sound is?
00:25:891 (8) - Now that is a way worse triplet than all of the others you had before.
00:34:654 (3) - Hitsound error (shouldn't be on tail i guess)
00:36:707 (1,2) - Looks like you've run out of ideas or patterns, but this tiny overlap, well.
00:41:444 (1) - Why is the hitsound so loud all of a sudden?
00:43:023 (1) - Somewhat not emphasized enough compared to the objects.
01:06:075 (7) - Again, missing hitsound.

Sadly, that's just subjective stuff and it's even more sad that you remapped your great intro to this and I don't see why Moph wanted to keep the new version as this is.. ugh.

Try to understand that this isn't only Fort's fault but also people who made a mod in here.

I mean, you can understand perfectly what this map needs, but didn't you come early? Now you come and say this 6 days after the qualification note.

I'm not saying that what you're doing is bad, quite the opposite, but you should know when to make mods and when to not speak at all.

moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

moph 2015-09-17T07:29:55+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Fort, it's honestly disappointing how you treated your map.

00:20:128 (5,6,7) - What has this huge jump to do in the beginning section? How does it fit in any way?
00:22:022 (3,4) - This antijump honestly fits to a really small extent.
00:24:075 (1) - Where is the emphasis? Shouldn't a jump actually be here, where a dominant sound is?
00:25:891 (8) - Now that is a way worse triplet than all of the others you had before.
00:34:654 (3) - Hitsound error (shouldn't be on tail i guess)
00:36:707 (1,2) - Looks like you've run out of ideas or patterns, but this tiny overlap, well.
00:41:444 (1) - Why is the hitsound so loud all of a sudden?
00:43:023 (1) - Somewhat not emphasized enough compared to the objects.
01:06:075 (7) - Again, missing hitsound.

Sadly, that's just subjective stuff and it's even more sad that you remapped your great intro to this and I don't see why Moph wanted to keep the new version as this is.. ugh.

I agree with a lot of the points that you have made but at least in my opinion these issues are very minor and aren't that apparent while playing. I prefer the current version over the previous one as this one offers a much more even level of difficulty as Deadlyneliel mentioned. My understanding of the previous disqualifications was that the QAT were unsatisfactory with the intro as a whole so I thought Fort reworking it would be a good thing. Thanks for the input though!

Irreversible

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4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2015-09-17T15:51:46+00:00

Mercurial wrote:
Irreversible wrote:
Fort, it's honestly disappointing how you treated your map.

00:20:128 (5,6,7) - What has this huge jump to do in the beginning section? How does it fit in any way?
00:22:022 (3,4) - This antijump honestly fits to a really small extent.
00:24:075 (1) - Where is the emphasis? Shouldn't a jump actually be here, where a dominant sound is?
00:25:891 (8) - Now that is a way worse triplet than all of the others you had before.
00:34:654 (3) - Hitsound error (shouldn't be on tail i guess)
00:36:707 (1,2) - Looks like you've run out of ideas or patterns, but this tiny overlap, well.
00:41:444 (1) - Why is the hitsound so loud all of a sudden?
00:43:023 (1) - Somewhat not emphasized enough compared to the objects.
01:06:075 (7) - Again, missing hitsound.

Sadly, that's just subjective stuff and it's even more sad that you remapped your great intro to this and I don't see why Moph wanted to keep the new version as this is.. ugh.
Try to understand that this isn't only Fort's fault but also people who made a mod in here.

I mean, you can understand perfectly what this map needs, but didn't you come early? Now you come and say this 6 days after the qualification note.

I'm not saying that what you're doing is bad, quite the opposite, but you should know when to make mods and when to not speak at all.

I did talk to Fort early, unfortunately I don't have time all the time.. And your points are valid, I suppose.
But anyways, let's just look forward that things, as said, happen earlier next time

Mercurial

Mercurial 2015-09-17T21:49:39+00:00

Yeah, subjetive things aside, this mapset is pretty much done for ranking.

So let's move on and try to learn from our mistake to not repeat them in the future