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This map is pretty fun to play. Nice work, moph. :D
Nyxa

General
Note: If I tell you to place a note at x123 y123, it doesn't mean you have to place it EXACTLY there, just in that general direction (unless otherwise specified)

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  1. Hard: 02:32:917 - -> Snap to 02:32:926 -
  2. Fort's Extra: 02:04:968 - -> Snap to 02:04:965 -

Easy
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 01:25:335 (2) - Consider moving this to x362 y44 for better aesthetics, and then try straightening out 01:26:598 (4) - as well for consistency
  2. 01:27:072 (1) - This blanket could definitely be better
  3. 02:03:863 (2) - Why not make this 1/1 to better emphasize the beginning of the kiai? This feels kind of draggy at the moment, I think it'd be more enjoyable if it accurately matched the vocals. It'd also match what you did in the previous kiai.
  4. 02:10:017 (1) - This blanket could definitely improve
  5. 02:57:233 (5) - ^
Hitsounds
  1. 01:13:338 (2) - Try adding a finish and clap here

Normal
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:36:707 (1,2,3) - Why is this pattern so uneven compared to the other ones? Try making the gap between (1) and (3) the same as between (2) and (3), it'll look a lot better
  2. 01:04:970 (2) - Try making this into a 1/1 slider instead, and then place 01:05:759 (3) - on 01:05:601 - to fix the rhythm, and rearrange the pattern accordingly. I did something like thisand put 01:06:707 (4) - on x361 y206. It looks cool and fits the music a lot better, give it a try.
  3. 02:24:701 (4) - You can improve this blanket
  4. 02:50:436 (1,2) - ^
  5. 02:57:233 (4) - ^This definitely
  6. 02:57:233 (4,1) - Instead of a repeat here try removing the repeat and adding a circle afterwards

Hard
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:21:549 (1) - Why not make this the same slider as 00:21:233 (5) - (copypasted) but with a return? It would look cleaner.
  2. 00:39:233 (7) - Try placing this at x199 y77 for better aesthetics
  3. 00:46:023 (6,7) - Sliderstarts on red ticks here really go against the music, I suggest you remove 00:45:865 (5) - and place those two sliders where it was on the timeline, then add a circle on 00:46:496 -
  4. 00:50:759 (6) - Why not make this into two circles instead? It'd be more fitting rhythmically.
  5. 00:56:444 (8,9) - Instead of circle -> slider, why not make this into slider -> circle?
  6. 01:12:549 (2) - The spacing here is very inconsistent, try placing it at x145 y131 to fix it
  7. 01:19:493 (1) - This blanket could use some fixing
  8. 02:02:600 (1) - Try Ctrl G'ing this, it'd make for a more enjoyable flow
  9. 02:57:865 (6,7,1) - This is really unsightly, try straightening/evening it out a bit
Hitsounds
  1. 02:48:857 (4) - Why suddenly a clap on the sliderhead here? It'd work better if you removed it entirely

Starfort's Hyper
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:27:075 (4) - This blanket is really uneven and extremely tight, try lowering and fixing it
  2. 00:27:707 (6) - ^But move it more to the right instead
  3. 00:30:075 (3) - I suggest making this into a single circle, moving 00:30:391 (1) - to 00:30:233 - instead and adding a circle at 00:30:707 - x56 y320, with a whistle
  4. 01:04:970 (2,3,4,5) - These 4 sliders are very counterrhythmic, they don't succeed at accentuating the music and purely because you neglect all the pressurized points in the rhythm by flooding them with sliderends. I highly suggest you rework this, just remove 01:06:233 (6) - this circle, move 01:04:970 (2,3,4,5) - all four of these to the first downbeat you can find ( 01:05:128 - ) and stack a circle on the sliderhead of 01:05:128 (2) - , at 01:04:970 -
  5. 01:10:496 (4) - The rhythm after this is kind of skewed. What I suggest is replacing 01:10:496 (4) - this slider with a circle (with clap), moving 01:10:812 (5) - to 01:10:496 - and x420 y342 (or some other playfield position you might prefer) and moving 01:11:286 (6,7) - to 01:11:128 - , finally finishing by stacking a circle beneath 01:11:443 (7) - , located at 01:11:601 - on the timeline. If you want an image of how the timeline looks after these changes, it's this
  6. 01:12:707 (2) - This rhythm doesn't match the song at all. What you want is a note 01:12:707 - here, 01:13:023 - here and 01:13:338 - here, anything else is just overmapped a lot.
  7. 01:14:441 (1) - I suggest moving this to the left a bit so there's no unsightly overlaps, and then adjust 01:13:654 (3) - accordingly.
  8. 01:16:809 (6) - Don't end a slider on a big tick... It really doesn't work, it completely messes up the rhythm here. What I suggest is to make 6 into a circle and move 01:17:125 (1,2,3) - to 01:16:967 - , Ctrl G 01:16:967 (1) - , then 01:17:441 (2) - and then 01:17:914 (3) - , and finally add a circle on 01:18:230 - x425 y202, removing 01:18:388 (1) - and NC'ing 01:18:546 (2) - afterwards. It may sound like a mouthful but it'll really be worth it, the rhythms will feel much more natural like this. (Image of the rhythm for reference)
  9. 01:19:177 (4) - Try making this into two circles instead, this is a Hyper and sliderends don't accentuate snares at all
  10. 01:23:914 (4) - This blanket is way too tight... Try spacing it out a little
  11. 01:24:388 (5) - Once again with the unaccentuative rhythm. Try making this into a circle and moving 01:24:704 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - to 01:24:546 - , then move 01:28:493 (1) - to 01:28:335 - x262 y123 and add an NC to 01:28:651 (2) - , removing it from 01:28:335 (1) - afterwards.
  12. 01:32:598 (2,3) - This is really counter-intuitive, I suggest Ctrl + G'ing 01:32:125 (1) - and stacking 01:32:598 (2) - on the sliderhead of 01:32:906 (3) - instead. That still wouldn't be optimal but it would at least preserve your style.
  13. 01:58:495 (4) - Try replacing this with a circle at x23 y222 and moving 01:58:811 (5,6) - to 01:58:653 - instead, then add a circle at 01:59:284 - , stacked on the sliderhead of 01:59:442 (7) - for better matching the music
  14. 02:07:333 (1) - This is a really uncomfortable pattern, try stacking it on the head of 02:07:491 (2) - instead
  15. 02:09:228 (3) - Ctrl G would fit better here, but then try moving 02:09:859 (1) - to x366 y30 for better flow
  16. 02:12:386 (1) - This overlap is very hidoi ._. why not move it to x393 y231 instead?
  17. 02:17:122 (4) - Try ctrl G'ing this and then moving 02:17:438 (1) - to x300 y171, then stack the head of 02:18:386 (4) - on (1) as well for aesthetic purposes
  18. 02:25:017 (9) - The spacing here is very inconsistent, moving it to x75 y293 would fix that
Hitsounds
  1. 00:31:338 (4) - Add whistle on the sliderhead
  2. 00:31:338 (4,7) - ^
  3. 00:31:338 (4,7) - ^
  4. 00:35:917 (5) - ^
  5. 00:36:391 (6) - Add whistle
  6. 00:37:654 (3) - Remove whistle on the sliderend
  7. 00:38:128 (1) - Lower the volume of this spinnerend just a bit
This diff needs a lot of work ._.

Insane
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:20:128 (5) - Why not just copypaste and ctrl J 00:19:496 (3) - this slider so that you get two even sliders? This just looks like a mess.
  2. 01:03:075 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - This could've been a beautiful hexagon but now it's really skewed ._. To get something like this (instead of this, try hitting ctrl + shift + d and setting the points to "6" and distance spacing to 1.2 (make sure your beat snap divisor is at 1/2 before starting, and that you're on 01:03:075 - on the timeline), then all you need to do is position it right and fix the directions of the notes, and add the 1/4 repeat slider at the end.
  3. 01:15:546 (4) - If you're gonna do an overlap like this, at least place it at x301 y80 so it's even
  4. 01:30:072 (3,4,5) - This looks aesthetically much sloppier than the previous rhythms, any reason for that?
  5. 02:42:858 (1) - Try Ctrl + G'ing this for better flow

Extra
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:56:838 (9,1) - This is hard to read, try moving 00:56:838 (9) - back a bit, to x221 y192, so it stands out a tad bit more.
  2. 00:59:917 (4) - Why such a tight and awkward angle change in such a pressurized section of the playfield? Try moving 00:59:917 (4) - to x408 y257 and blanketing 01:00:549 (8) - behind it to get something like this. This is an extra, so you can easily afford larger jumps (and in this case a larger jump costs less effort than a small one, considering the top right of the screen is very pressurized)
  3. 01:07:812 (5,6,7) - This is suuuper awkward, try moving 01:07:970 (6) - to x285 y264 and ctrl G'ing 01:08:128 (7) - . I mean, honestly I'd rather tell you to redo the whole pattern here but if you want to keep the general idea, that's what I'd suggest.
  4. 01:08:917 (1) - Why not make this into a single circle instead, and then move 01:09:154 (2) - to 01:09:075 - x451 y28? Just a mild suggestion to make things more interesting.
  5. 01:16:809 (5) - Is there any reason why you placed this slider here this way? It's really misleading and doesn't play so well. At the very least try placing it at x260 y34
  6. 01:21:546 (4) - I highly suggest moving this to x456 y239
  7. 01:25:335 (6,7,8) - Aaa this was such a beautiful jump pattern why go against the momentum you were creating ;______;
  8. 01:29:914 (2,3) - Okay this is really hard to read and almost a certain DQ. If you want to avoid that, try doing something like... Placing it at x409 y46 and ctrl + G'ing 01:30:072 (3) - this slider.
  9. 01:31:651 (5) - I really suggest you move this to x256 y184
  10. 01:34:326 (1,2,3) - What is the point of a stop motion stream here? It looks like you put it here just for the heck of it
  11. 01:42:311 (10) - Once again a hard to read stack, try placing this at x256 y312
  12. 02:04:965 (1,2,3,4) - This plays really awkwardly...


Summary
I decided to stop modding this set, since Fort's diff would result in a wallmod of its own and I'm already getting pretty tired. I think you guys should really put more effort into wondering why you should make the patterns you make, how they'd fit where they are in the music and how enjoyable they'd be for their designated player. It really, really feels like none of these diffs had too much thought put into them, and I can see in every single diff that each and every one of you has potential as a mapper, but seems to care for ranking more than about quality. I highly suggest you all revise your diffs and make sure they are the best you could've possibly made them before continuing to try to get this ranked.

Best of luck!
Topic Starter
moph

Tess wrote:

General
Note: If I tell you to place a note at x123 y123, it doesn't mean you have to place it EXACTLY there, just in that general direction (unless otherwise specified)

Unsnapped greenlines
  1. Hard: 02:32:917 - -> Snap to 02:32:926 -
  2. Fort's Extra: 02:04:968 - -> Snap to 02:04:965 -
    must have missed them when the timing change, fixed

Easy
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 01:25:335 (2) - Consider moving this to x362 y44 for better aesthetics, and then try straightening out 01:26:598 (4) - as well for consistency fixed
  2. 01:27:072 (1) - This blanket could definitely be better fixed
  3. 02:03:863 (2) - Why not make this 1/1 to better emphasize the beginning of the kiai? This feels kind of draggy at the moment, I think it'd be more enjoyable if it accurately matched the vocals. It'd also match what you did in the previous kiai. do you mean the slider before? Made it the same as last section so fixed i hope
  4. 02:10:017 (1) - This blanket could definitely improve fixed
  5. 02:57:233 (5) - ^ fixed

Hitsounds
  1. 01:13:338 (2) - Try adding a finish and clap here added

Normal
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:36:707 (1,2,3) - Why is this pattern so uneven compared to the other ones? Try making the gap between (1) and (3) the same as between (2) and (3), it'll look a lot better oops it was meant to be, fixed
  2. 01:04:970 (2) - Try making this into a 1/1 slider instead, and then place 01:05:759 (3) - on 01:05:601 - to fix the rhythm, and rearrange the pattern accordingly. I did something like thisand put 01:06:707 (4) - on x361 y206. It looks cool and fits the music a lot better, give it a try. yeah i like this better, pretty much changed to the same rhythm as you mentioned, applied for later parts
  3. 02:24:701 (4) - You can improve this blanket fixed
  4. 02:50:436 (1,2) - ^ fixed
  5. 02:57:233 (4) - ^This definitely fixed
  6. 02:57:233 (4,1) - Instead of a repeat here try removing the repeat and adding a circle afterwards okay fixed

Hard
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:21:549 (1) - Why not make this the same slider as 00:21:233 (5) - (copypasted) but with a return? It would look cleaner. good point, fixed
  2. 00:39:233 (7) - Try placing this at x199 y77 for better aesthetics fixed
  3. 00:46:023 (6,7) - Sliderstarts on red ticks here really go against the music, I suggest you remove 00:45:865 (5) - and place those two sliders where it was on the timeline, then add a circle on 00:46:496 - tried to go with the vocals here but I like this better, fixed
  4. 00:50:759 (6) - Why not make this into two circles instead? It'd be more fitting rhythmically. I agree, fixed
  5. 00:56:444 (8,9) - Instead of circle -> slider, why not make this into slider -> circle? that sounds better, fixed
  6. 01:12:549 (2) - The spacing here is very inconsistent, try placing it at x145 y131 to fix it fixed
  7. 01:19:493 (1) - This blanket could use some fixing fixed I think
  8. 02:02:600 (1) - Try Ctrl G'ing this, it'd make for a more enjoyable flow hmm okay fixed
  9. 02:57:865 (6,7,1) - This is really unsightly, try straightening/evening it out a bit tried fixing it
Hitsounds
  1. 02:48:857 (4) - Why suddenly a clap on the sliderhead here? It'd work better if you removed it entirely oops, not meant to be there, fixed

Insane
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:20:128 (5) - Why not just copypaste and ctrl J 00:19:496 (3) - this slider so that you get two even sliders? This just looks like a mess. yeah why didn't I think of that orz
  2. 01:03:075 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - This could've been a beautiful hexagon but now it's really skewed ._. To get something like this (instead of this, try hitting ctrl + shift + d and setting the points to "6" and distance spacing to 1.2 (make sure your beat snap divisor is at 1/2 before starting, and that you're on 01:03:075 - on the timeline), then all you need to do is position it right and fix the directions of the notes, and add the 1/4 repeat slider at the end. okay prettier now
  3. 01:15:546 (4) - If you're gonna do an overlap like this, at least place it at x301 y80 so it's even fixed
  4. 01:30:072 (3,4,5) - This looks aesthetically much sloppier than the previous rhythms, any reason for that? not sure what you mean here
  5. 02:42:858 (1) - Try Ctrl + G'ing this for better flow ok fixed

Extra
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:56:838 (9,1) - This is hard to read, try moving 00:56:838 (9) - back a bit, to x221 y192, so it stands out a tad bit more. fixed
  2. 00:59:917 (4) - Why such a tight and awkward angle change in such a pressurized section of the playfield? Try moving 00:59:917 (4) - to x408 y257 and blanketing 01:00:549 (8) - behind it to get something like this. This is an extra, so you can easily afford larger jumps (and in this case a larger jump costs less effort than a small one, considering the top right of the screen is very pressurized) good point, fixed using something similar to your example
  3. 01:07:812 (5,6,7) - This is suuuper awkward, try moving 01:07:970 (6) - to x285 y264 and ctrl G'ing 01:08:128 (7) - . I mean, honestly I'd rather tell you to redo the whole pattern here but if you want to keep the general idea, that's what I'd suggest. kinda redid this, hopefully this is better
  4. 01:08:917 (1) - Why not make this into a single circle instead, and then move 01:09:154 (2) - to 01:09:075 - x451 y28? Just a mild suggestion to make things more interesting. okay, changed
  5. 01:16:809 (5) - Is there any reason why you placed this slider here this way? It's really misleading and doesn't play so well. At the very least try placing it at x260 y34 personally don't think its that misleading since they're played as a single but i guess i'll change it to something else
  6. 01:21:546 (4) - I highly suggest moving this to x456 y239 fixed, place it somewhere else
  7. 01:25:335 (6,7,8) - Aaa this was such a beautiful jump pattern why go against the momentum you were creating ;______; i'm stupid, fixed i hope ;______;
  8. 01:29:914 (2,3) - Okay this is really hard to read and almost a certain DQ. If you want to avoid that, try doing something like... Placing it at x409 y46 and ctrl + G'ing 01:30:072 (3) - this slider. okay :< fixed using something else
  9. 01:31:651 (5) - I really suggest you move this to x256 y184 fixed
  10. 01:34:326 (1,2,3) - What is the point of a stop motion stream here? It looks like you put it here just for the heck of it there was a reason, not a very valid one so I'll change it
  11. 01:42:311 (10) - Once again a hard to read stack, try placing this at x256 y312 fixed
  12. 02:04:965 (1,2,3,4) - This plays really awkwardly... I think its okay :s I'll try thing of something else


Summary
I decided to stop modding this set, since Fort's diff would result in a wallmod of its own and I'm already getting pretty tired. I think you guys should really put more effort into wondering why you should make the patterns you make, how they'd fit where they are in the music and how enjoyable they'd be for their designated player. It really, really feels like none of these diffs had too much thought put into them, and I can see in every single diff that each and every one of you has potential as a mapper, but seems to care for ranking more than about quality. I highly suggest you all revise your diffs and make sure they are the best you could've possibly made them before continuing to try to get this ranked.

Best of luck!
Wow thank you Tess!! Really helped a lot!
I realize this mapset could be a lot better as I'm not that happy with it either but I'm seriously quite done with it. If a remap/large amounts of changes is necessary for it to be rankable, this will probably rip as i don't think I can do it again -.-
Nyxa
Thanks for the respectful reply, I was getting a bit tired near the end of the mod so I may have come off a little cranky haha, but I'd like you to know that you're free to pm me in-game if you'd ever want a better explanation of what could be better. This set doesn't require a total remap, just a small change in mindset. Fort/Starforts diffs do need a lot of revision imo but even if they just applied some more mods and you worked just a bit on altering the mindset of your own diffs you'd already be a whole lot further, and the set would probably be a lot easier to qualify.

Just a suggestion, good luck!
Yuii-
I could check Fort's difficulties if you guys are okay with that.

I agree with Tess' mod as I had a lot of issues while playing this map, from Readability issues to weird patterns. I am sure I can do a check to the Insanes / Extras if moph agrees with this.

However, this is an excellent song, good selection!
Topic Starter
moph

Yuii- wrote:

I could check Fort's difficulties if you guys are okay with that.

I agree with Tess' mod as I had a lot of issues while playing this map, from Readability issues to weird patterns. I am sure I can do a check to the Insanes / Extras if moph agrees with this.

However, this is an excellent song, good selection!
Totally okay with that \o/ would love more opinions on the diffs :D
AVeryFondOreo
I'm surprised this map isn't ranked yet! It's nicely done.

IMO: I personally liked the old pattern you had going on "Fort's Extra" difficulty at around 1:25-ish. The crisscrossing was fun! :D
Yuii-
Currently modding it

Done!

Insane



General

I will be honest... I really liked the map. It's true that some things could be improved, but the idea is good overall. Please, follow the points mentioned below in order to improve some minor things.
HP +0.5 I don't get why you are using 6.5 when you have relatively long combos.

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:45:391 (5) - I don't like the way in which you are (or trying to) covering the vocal in this part. To my pov, I'd strongly recommend you to finish the slider at 00:45:628 - and then add another slider from 00:45:707 - with Clap and finish it where the circle (6) is (with Finish).

  2. 01:08:444 (7,1) - What do you think of making these 2 circles are 1 slider? It'll cover the vocal and it will sound nicer.

  3. 01:13:970 (1) - I don't like at all how this sounds. I tried to place a circle and a slider but it didn't sound very good neither. Don't know what you think.

  4. 01:15:546 (4) - I'd personally recommend a stack with the slider tail of (2), as it will avoid that unnecessary ugly "stack" under it.

  5. 01:16:809 (5,6) - Triplets doesn't sound that good as other things would do. Please, make 01:16:651 (4) - a slider and remove 01:16:888 (6) - . Triplets are just not needed in that part.
  6. 01:28:177 (6,7) - ^
  7. 02:18:781 (7) - ^

  8. 01:21:388 (3) - I think 2 circles here'd fit better as it will be following better with the following "patterns".

  9. 01:32:756 (3) - This will probably sound quite weird, but I don't like this stack. What do you think of placing this circle under the sliderhead?

  10. 01:36:548 (7) - It'd be nicer if you finish the slider 01:36:705 - and then you place a circle at 01:36:863 - remember that there's a beat in the middle of the slider, so that will sound better as well.
  11. 01:41:600 (8) - ^

  12. 01:51:074 (6) - This slider looks quite akward in the current position, try placing the sliderhead at x124 y188.

  13. 02:09:386 (3,4) - As you were following with some constant beats throughout the map, I'd suggest you to make this a slider as well. It sounds much better.

  14. 02:12:228 (4) - This circle plays quite bad in the current position as the players have to do quite an akward movement. Try placing this circle at the top of the sliderhead of (2). That will be leaving a huge space between this circle and 02:12:386 (5) - so you could place it in the sliderhead of (1) so that'd avoid an unnecessary spacing.
Hitsounding

  • The following points must be considered as RECOMMENDATIONS as they are just that. They are here in order to improve the most insignificant beats in the song. However, I really think that these changes could make a big difference, even if they are minor.
  1. 00:19:338 (2) - Whistle + Sampleset "Drum".
  2. 00:19:970 (4) - ^
  3. 00:20:601 (6) - ^
  4. 00:21:233 (8) - ^ (head)
  5. 00:21:865 (2) - ^
  6. 00:22:496 (4) - ^
  7. 00:23:128 (6) - ^
  8. 00:23:286 (7) - ^ (tail)
  9. 00:24:391 (2) - ^
  10. 00:24:865 (4) - ^ (tail)
  11. 00:25:654 (6) - ^
  12. 00:26:286 (8) - ^ (head)
  13. 00:26:917 (3) - ^
  14. 00:27:549 (5) - ^
  15. 00:28:023 (7) - ^ (tail)
  16. 00:28:812 (9) - ^
  17. 00:29:444 (3) - ^
  18. 00:29:917 (5) - ^ (tail)
  19. 00:30:707 (7) - ^
  20. 00:31:970 (3) - ^
  21. 00:32:601 (5) - ^
  22. 00:33:075 (7) - ^ (tail)
  23. 00:34:496 (2) - ^ Ok, I'm tired.
  24. 00:35:128 (4) - ^
  25. 00:35:601 (6) - ^
  26. 00:36:391 (8) -
  27. 00:37:023 (2) -
  28. 00:37:654 (4) -
Serious hitsounding up to this point.

  1. 00:19:022 (1) - Finish here, please!

  2. 00:51:865 (1) - You just can't ignore this beat. Whistle here, please! The same goes for the following two circles, try adding 00:52:023 (2) - whistle and 00:52:180 (3) - finish in order to emphasise that part.

  3. 00:54:154 (6,7,8) - Whistle, these beats CAN'T be ignored.
  4. 01:05:286 (4) - ^

  5. 01:04:338 (3) - Whistle instead of Clap. Clap goes for a more louder sound that this one.

  6. 01:18:862 (3) - Wait a second.... why are you using a whistle right here that there's no clear audible hitsound and you are ignoring the one in 01:19:177 (5) - ? This is quite weird. Change (3) for Whistle; (4) and (5) for Clap and (6) for Finish.

  7. 02:32:926 (1,5,1,5) - Replace these ones for Clap (because the beats are way much louder than the other ones, as there's no much difference if you want to highlight 'em with Whistle).
  8. 02:33:084 (3,7,3,7) - You COULD try to hitsound these with Whistles.

Extra



General

I like it, overall. The jumps are amazing!
HP +0.5 I don't get why you are using 6.5 when you have relatively long combos.

  1. 01:14:049 - This one seems to be an unnecessary green line.
Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:26:917 (3) - Stack this with the slider (9).

  2. 00:56:838 (9) - These kind of circles are so unpredictable. In fact, I've never seen these type of objects distanced so far away from the previous object. You can just ignore it as there's NOTHING right there and it'll also play much better that way. I mean... as players we are not used to hit like this, as we not expect slider+circle+slider to be placed like that.
  3. 01:42:311 (11) - ^

  4. 01:16:809 (5) - Try Ctrl+G this for better aesthetics.

  5. 02:04:965 (1,2,3,4) - Well done right here, I loved this part!

  6. 02:19:333 (2,3,4,5) - I don't like the placement of these circles, they look quite weird at the current position. I tried really hard to find an alternative way of re-placing everything, but I ended up in a big black section. At least try to Ctrl+G 02:19:965 (5) - as it will look better with the following slider (1).

  7. 02:24:939 (2) - I've always hated streams starting in blue ticks, who invented this!? Aaaa. Anyway, the first beat of the section starts at 02:24:859 - you should really start the stream right there, in my opinion. Starting in blue tick will (probably) lead to random 100s.

  8. 02:34:821 (1) - When I testplayed this, this slider seemed quite annoying, I thought it was distanced from the stream because there was a tick before it, Try placing it at the end of the stream. It won't make a huge difference, but it will affect gameplay, that's for sure.

  9. 02:41:279 (5) - I don't think a stack will work that well here, as this is a fast section, players might get confused with this. Why don't you try to move it a LITTLE bit to the right? It won't be a huge change, but it will definitely affect gameplay.

  10. 02:48:858 (5,6,7,8) - I'm not that sure that a stream will work right here. Let's be honest, there's no need to. It's okay if you want to change a bit the fact about circle-slider-circle-circle-slider and all that, but I just don't see it necessary to use it in this case. Try replace it for a slider from 02:48:857 - to 02:49:015 -
Hitsounding

  1. 00:19:022 (1) - Finish here, please!

  2. 00:19:338 - 00:37:654 (4) - Check the Insane Hitsound section. However, some things will have to change as you are not using the same objects in the same location.

  3. 00:43:496 (5) - Remove whistle! There's no audible beat right here.

  4. 01:52:653 (3) - Clap + Additions "Soft" (yeah, hitsounding is hard ;w;)
  5. 01:53:916 (2) - ^
  6. 01:54:390 (1,2) - ^
  7. 02:30:400 (1) - ^
  8. 02:31:032 (1) - ^ (head)
  9. 02:31:663 (1) - ^
  10. 02:32:295 (1) - ^ (head)
  11. 02:32:926 (1) - ^
  12. 02:33:242 (1) - ^
  13. 02:33:558 (1) - ^
  14. 02:33:874 (1) - ^
  15. 02:34:189 (1) - ^
  16. 02:34:505 (1) - ^

  17. 01:53:127 (1) - Whistle right here and there's an audible beat. It must be highlighted in order to stand out from the others.
  18. 01:53:758 (1) - ^

  19. 02:25:175 (5) - I know what you are trying to do here. But the beat is actually different from 02:25:018 (3) - that is well hitsounded. To be honest, it won't make any difference if you make a minor change as the one I'm going to tell you. But as a hitsounder specialist (ok, no, I suck at hitsounding, don't kick me) I will have to make up your mind. You can either remove clap or remove whistle and leave the clap with Additions "Soft".

  20. 02:34:821 (1) - Add Whistle here, please!

Fort's Extra



General

I think that the main problem of this map is that you are exaggerating a bit the slowest parts. But that's not all, you should also check the patterns you use. You just can't simply put 2 circles really close to each other and then make a super huge jump across the screen... that's not how things should be done. I don't have anything against this difficulty because I like this type of insane stuff... but I REALLY think this can be improved much more as it is right now. As a modder I know that you can do this, Fort. Come on, give me your best shot!

OD +1 In order to balance this difficulty with the Extra from moph.

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:23:601 (4) - I see it really pointless the fact of placing a circle when there's literally NOTHING to point out right here, nor the vocals nor the beats. I'd just stretch out the slider up to that point.
  2. 00:33:707 (4) - ^

  3. 00:28:338 (3) - Stack the slidertail properly with the head of (4).
  4. 01:01:338 (4) - ^
  5. 01:03:233 (1,2) - ^

  6. 00:55:338 (6) - I think that Ctrl+G'ing this will look better.
  7. 02:49:647 (3) - ^
  8. 02:50:436 (1) - ^

  9. 02:34:979 - What do you think of adding a slow slider right here in order to emphasise the vocal with the "ioo~"?
Overdone / Unreasonable Spacing

  1. 00:26:444 (6) - Do I need to explain this? I mean, the spacing is way too big for the amount of time you have to react to this circle.
  2. 00:29:286 (2) - ^
  3. 00:56:759 (8) - ^

  4. 02:40:646 (2,3) - I think this is quite an unnecessary jump.
Hitsounding

  1. 00:19:022 - Finish here, please!

  2. 00:19:338 - 00:37:654 (4) - Check the Insane Hitsound section. However, some things will have to change as you are not using the same objects in the same location.

  3. 01:04:812 (2) - Whistle here, the beat is quite low compared to the others in which you did use the proper hitsounding.
  4. 01:07:338 (2) - ^

  5. 01:05:128 (4) - Clap or Finish in order to emphasise a little bit this section.
  6. 01:07:654 (4) - ^

  7. 01:21:862 (6) - This beat sounds louder than the previous ones. Try Finish!

  8. 01:22:809 (5,6) - Add Clap as you did with 01:22:335 (2) - . They have the EXACT SAME beat. Don't be inconsistent!

  9. 02:30:400 - 02:34:821 - Check the Extra Hitsound section. However, some things will have to change as you are not using the same objects in the same location.

  10. 02:58:495 (3) - WHY FINISH HERE WHEN THE STRONGEST BEAT IS AT 02:58:653 (4) - !?!? I am going to die.
  11. 02:58:179 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try with:
    [Hitsounding]
    404,192,178179,5,8,0:0:0:0:
    360,316,178337,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    232,304,178495,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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    312,28,178969,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    428,84,179127,1,14,0:0:0:0:

Oki, done!

Best of luck, guys.
Ciyus Miapah

Yuii- wrote:

Fort's Extra



General

I think that the main problem of this map is that you are exaggerating a bit the slowest parts. But that's not all, you should also check the patterns you use. You just can't simply put 2 circles really close to each other and then make a super huge jump across the screen... that's not how things should be done. I don't have anything against this difficulty because I like this type of insane stuff... but I REALLY think this can be improved much more as it is right now. As a modder I know that you can do this, Fort. Come on, give me your best shot!

OD +1 In order to balance this difficulty with the Extra from moph. what? OD 9 too damn hard for deathstream part

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:23:601 (4) - I see it really pointless the fact of placing a circle when there's literally NOTHING to point out right here, nor the vocals nor the beats. I'd just stretch out the slider up to that point.
  2. 00:33:707 (4) - ^ for this will keep it because it has something there

  3. 00:28:338 (3) - Stack the slidertail properly with the head of (4).
  4. 01:01:338 (4) - ^ no stack because its 3/4 slider xD
  5. 01:03:233 (1,2) - ^ fix placement only

  6. 00:55:338 (6) - I think that Ctrl+G'ing this will look better.
  7. 02:49:647 (3) - ^ oh that so sudden jump between 02:49:647 (3,4) - i think
  8. 02:50:436 (1) - ^ probably will consider this because on there im just have limited placement for deciding good flow

  9. 02:34:979 - What do you think of adding a slow slider right here in order to emphasise the vocal with the "ioo~"? if i do that i cant press pause button because next pattern quite hell jumpy and exhausting <- dumb reason ever
Overdone / Unreasonable Spacing

  1. 00:26:444 (6) - Do I need to explain this? I mean, the spacing is way too big for the amount of time you have to react to this circle. much strong sound on there, and that's my advantage to make some far jump there
  2. 00:29:286 (2) - ^ you can hear finish sound there, its probably great mement for jump like that
  3. 00:56:759 (8) - ^ im still confused with this ;_;

  4. 02:40:646 (2,3) - I think this is quite an unnecessary jump. yeah i guess so
Hitsounding

  1. 00:19:022 - Finish here, please!

  2. 00:19:338 - 00:37:654 (4) - Check the Insane Hitsound section. However, some things will have to change as you are not using the same objects in the same location.

  3. 01:04:812 (2) - Whistle here, the beat is quite low compared to the others in which you did use the proper hitsounding.
  4. 01:07:338 (2) - ^

  5. 01:05:128 (4) - Clap or Finish in order to emphasise a little bit this section.
  6. 01:07:654 (4) - ^

  7. 01:21:862 (6) - This beat sounds louder than the previous ones. Try Finish!

  8. 01:22:809 (5,6) - Add Clap as you did with 01:22:335 (2) - . They have the EXACT SAME beat. Don't be inconsistent!

  9. 02:30:400 - 02:34:821 - Check the Extra Hitsound section. However, some things will have to change as you are not using the same objects in the same location.

  10. 02:58:495 (3) - WHY FINISH HERE WHEN THE STRONGEST BEAT IS AT 02:58:653 (4) - !?!? I am going to die.
  11. 02:58:179 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try with:
    [Hitsounding]
    404,192,178179,5,8,0:0:0:0:
    360,316,178337,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    232,304,178495,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    164,192,178653,1,14,0:0:0:0:
    188,64,178811,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    312,28,178969,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    428,84,179127,1,14,0:0:0:0:

Oki, done!

Best of luck, guys.
okay i fix all suggestion except red one. thanks for mod yui :3

OK
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369,128,153795,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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420,203,153953,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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155,181,154821,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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436,88,158120,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,140,161278,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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304,332,161910,2,0,L|156:328,1,135.000005149842,10|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
4,324,162225,1,10,0:0:0:0:
148,252,162383,1,10,0:0:0:0:
28,144,162541,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,296,162699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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272,36,163173,2,0,P|260:124|260:200,1,135.000005149842,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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456,168,163804,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,224,163962,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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112,308,164436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
340,80,164593,1,4,0:0:0:0:
180,364,164751,1,10,0:0:0:0:
140,44,164909,1,10,0:0:0:0:
312,316,165067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
24,172,165225,1,4,0:0:0:0:
180,128,165384,70,0,L|192:276,1,135.000005149842,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,356,165699,1,2,0:0:0:0:
96,124,165857,1,4,0:0:0:0:
388,260,166015,1,10,0:0:0:0:
64,252,166172,1,10,0:0:0:0:
388,240,166330,1,2,0:0:0:0:
76,332,166488,1,6,0:0:0:0:
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396,156,166962,1,2,0:0:0:0:
96,32,167120,1,4,0:0:0:0:
252,316,167278,1,10,0:0:0:0:
332,4,167436,1,10,0:0:0:0:
152,272,167593,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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228,220,168226,2,0,L|216:72,1,135.000005149842,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,174406,12,12,175353,0:0:0:0:
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280,224,178023,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,316,178337,1,2,0:0:0:0:
232,304,178495,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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428,84,179127,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,179205,12,0,182915,0:0:0:0:

additional self mod:
- fix some hitsound error
- fix some pattern
- add minor placement
yumi
Really fun map guys (the jumps caught me off guard a bit Fort haha). Love the song/mapset. GL!
Akaihiro
Awesome music and beatmap but no rank :'(
Akaihiro
Awesome & perfect music and beatmap but no rank ... what do Osu! ?!! è_é
Topic Starter
moph
SORRYLATEREPLAYWASBUSY

Yuii- wrote:

Currently modding it

Done!

Insane



General

I will be honest... I really liked the map. It's true that some things could be improved, but the idea is good overall. Please, follow the points mentioned below in order to improve some minor things.
HP +0.5 I don't get why you are using 6.5 when you have relatively long combos. mostly personal preference ;-; okay I'll change

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:45:391 (5) - I don't like the way in which you are (or trying to) covering the vocal in this part. To my pov, I'd strongly recommend you to finish the slider at 00:45:628 - and then add another slider from 00:45:707 - with Clap and finish it where the circle (6) is (with Finish). ah yeah this is better, applied

  2. 01:08:444 (7,1) - What do you think of making these 2 circles are 1 slider? It'll cover the vocal and it will sound nicer. makes sense, applied

  3. 01:13:970 (1) - I don't like at all how this sounds. I tried to place a circle and a slider but it didn't sound very good neither. Don't know what you think. Leaving as is, I think it sounds fine

  4. 01:15:546 (4) - I'd personally recommend a stack with the slider tail of (2), as it will avoid that unnecessary ugly "stack" under it. It isn't ugly to me ;-; okay I'll change

  5. 01:16:809 (5,6) - Triplets doesn't sound that good as other things would do. Please, make 01:16:651 (4) - a slider and remove 01:16:888 (6) - . Triplets are just not needed in that part. idk i feel like the triplet here fits, will think about it
  6. 01:28:177 (6,7) - ^ fixing here tho, slider-circle-slider, keeping the 1/4 because i think it fits
  7. 02:18:781 (7) - ^ ^

  8. 01:21:388 (3) - I think 2 circles here'd fit better as it will be following better with the following "patterns". agreed, applied

  9. 01:32:756 (3) - This will probably sound quite weird, but I don't like this stack. What do you think of placing this circle under the sliderhead? hmmm I think I like how it is

  10. 01:36:548 (7) - It'd be nicer if you finish the slider 01:36:705 - and then you place a circle at 01:36:863 - remember that there's a beat in the middle of the slider, so that will sound better as well. yeah good point, applied
  11. 01:41:600 (8) - ^ ^

  12. 01:51:074 (6) - This slider looks quite akward in the current position, try placing the sliderhead at x124 y188. changing to another rhythm here

  13. 02:09:386 (3,4) - As you were following with some constant beats throughout the map, I'd suggest you to make this a slider as well. It sounds much better.
    I think its fine as is
  14. 02:12:228 (4) - This circle plays quite bad in the current position as the players have to do quite an akward movement. Try placing this circle at the top of the sliderhead of (2). That will be leaving a huge space between this circle and 02:12:386 (5) - so you could place it in the sliderhead of (1) so that'd avoid an unnecessary spacing. ah yeah fixing
Hitsounding

  • The following points must be considered as RECOMMENDATIONS as they are just that. They are here in order to improve the most insignificant beats in the song. However, I really think that these changes could make a big difference, even if they are minor.
  1. 00:19:338 (2) - Whistle + Sampleset "Drum".
  2. 00:19:970 (4) - ^
  3. 00:20:601 (6) - ^
  4. 00:21:233 (8) - ^ (head)
  5. 00:21:865 (2) - ^
  6. 00:22:496 (4) - ^
  7. 00:23:128 (6) - ^
  8. 00:23:286 (7) - ^ (tail)
  9. 00:24:391 (2) - ^
  10. 00:24:865 (4) - ^ (tail)
  11. 00:25:654 (6) - ^
  12. 00:26:286 (8) - ^ (head)
  13. 00:26:917 (3) - ^
  14. 00:27:549 (5) - ^
  15. 00:28:023 (7) - ^ (tail)
  16. 00:28:812 (9) - ^
  17. 00:29:444 (3) - ^
  18. 00:29:917 (5) - ^ (tail)
  19. 00:30:707 (7) - ^
  20. 00:31:970 (3) - ^
  21. 00:32:601 (5) - ^
  22. 00:33:075 (7) - ^ (tail)
  23. 00:34:496 (2) - ^ Ok, I'm tired.
  24. 00:35:128 (4) - ^
  25. 00:35:601 (6) - ^
  26. 00:36:391 (8) -
  27. 00:37:023 (2) -
  28. 00:37:654 (4) -
Serious hitsounding up to this point.

  1. 00:19:022 (1) - Finish here, please!

  2. 00:51:865 (1) - You just can't ignore this beat. Whistle here, please! The same goes for the following two circles, try adding 00:52:023 (2) - whistle and 00:52:180 (3) - finish in order to emphasise that part.

  3. 00:54:154 (6,7,8) - Whistle, these beats CAN'T be ignored.
  4. 01:05:286 (4) - ^

  5. 01:04:338 (3) - Whistle instead of Clap. Clap goes for a more louder sound that this one.

  6. 01:18:862 (3) - Wait a second.... why are you using a whistle right here that there's no clear audible hitsound and you are ignoring the one in 01:19:177 (5) - ? This is quite weird. Change (3) for Whistle; (4) and (5) for Clap and (6) for Finish.

  7. 02:32:926 (1,5,1,5) - Replace these ones for Clap (because the beats are way much louder than the other ones, as there's no much difference if you want to highlight 'em with Whistle).
  8. 02:33:084 (3,7,3,7) - You COULD try to hitsound these with Whistles.

Extra



General

I like it, overall. The jumps are amazing!
HP +0.5 I don't get why you are using 6.5 when you have relatively long combos. fixing

  1. 01:14:049 - This one seems to be an unnecessary green line. wat doesn't exist for me o.o preview maybe?
Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:26:917 (3) - Stack this with the slider (9). applied

  2. 00:56:838 (9) - These kind of circles are so unpredictable. In fact, I've never seen these type of objects distanced so far away from the previous object. You can just ignore it as there's NOTHING right there and it'll also play much better that way. I mean... as players we are not used to hit like this, as we not expect slider+circle+slider to be placed like that. very true, changing the rhythm there, i kinda kept the circle before there for consistently but i guess it plays bad
  3. 01:42:311 (11) - ^ ^

  4. 01:16:809 (5) - Try Ctrl+G this for better aesthetics. gonna change to how it was before, I liked it better

  5. 02:04:965 (1,2,3,4) - Well done right here, I loved this part! thanks!

  6. 02:19:333 (2,3,4,5) - I don't like the placement of these circles, they look quite weird at the current position. I tried really hard to find an alternative way of re-placing everything, but I ended up in a big black section. At least try to Ctrl+G 02:19:965 (5) - as it will look better with the following slider (1). yeah i don't either now that you've mentioned it, fixed it to something else

  7. 02:24:939 (2) - I've always hated streams starting in blue ticks, who invented this!? Aaaa. Anyway, the first beat of the section starts at 02:24:859 - you should really start the stream right there, in my opinion. Starting in blue tick will (probably) lead to random 100s. i usually hate them too but this seemed to play okay, but i think starting them earlier makes more sense actually, fixed

  8. 02:34:821 (1) - When I testplayed this, this slider seemed quite annoying, I thought it was distanced from the stream because there was a tick before it, Try placing it at the end of the stream. It won't make a huge difference, but it will affect gameplay, that's for sure. I'll think about this, no test players have mentioned this before and i think its readable

  9. 02:41:279 (5) - I don't think a stack will work that well here, as this is a fast section, players might get confused with this. Why don't you try to move it a LITTLE bit to the right? It won't be a huge change, but it will definitely affect gameplay. true, ill rethink this part

  10. 02:48:858 (5,6,7,8) - I'm not that sure that a stream will work right here. Let's be honest, there's no need to. It's okay if you want to change a bit the fact about circle-slider-circle-circle-slider and all that, but I just don't see it necessary to use it in this case. Try replace it for a slider from 02:48:857 - to 02:49:015 - hmm okay changing
Hitsounding

  1. 00:19:022 (1) - Finish here, please!

  2. 00:19:338 - 00:37:654 (4) - Check the Insane Hitsound section. However, some things will have to change as you are not using the same objects in the same location.

  3. 00:43:496 (5) - Remove whistle! There's no audible beat right here.

  4. 01:52:653 (3) - Clap + Additions "Soft" (yeah, hitsounding is hard ;w;)
  5. 01:53:916 (2) - ^
  6. 01:54:390 (1,2) - ^
  7. 02:30:400 (1) - ^
  8. 02:31:032 (1) - ^ (head)
  9. 02:31:663 (1) - ^
  10. 02:32:295 (1) - ^ (head)
  11. 02:32:926 (1) - ^
  12. 02:33:242 (1) - ^
  13. 02:33:558 (1) - ^
  14. 02:33:874 (1) - ^
  15. 02:34:189 (1) - ^
  16. 02:34:505 (1) - ^

  17. 01:53:127 (1) - Whistle right here and there's an audible beat. It must be highlighted in order to stand out from the others.
  18. 01:53:758 (1) - ^

  19. 02:25:175 (5) - I know what you are trying to do here. But the beat is actually different from 02:25:018 (3) - that is well hitsounded. To be honest, it won't make any difference if you make a minor change as the one I'm going to tell you. But as a hitsounder specialist (ok, no, I suck at hitsounding, don't kick me) I will have to make up your mind. You can either remove clap or remove whistle and leave the clap with Additions "Soft".

  20. 02:34:821 (1) - Add Whistle here, please!
Best of luck, guys.
Thank you so much Yuii-! Really helpful!
Gonna try rework some areas so wont update straight away, gonna apply all the hit sounds btw :D
Yuii-
I wasn't expecting you to apply all the hitsounds, but that's great.

I guess I'm improving at them. I'll give a re-check to the other diffs the following week if you want.

For now, good luck and thanks for the nice reply ~
repr1se
I'm not able to mod, but I wanted to say how much I love this map. Great job, I can't wait to see further development!
Fatal015

Fort wrote:

Hello!, Quick mod by Fort

[Mapset]
Please add some Combo colours
some suggestion -> 4 combo colours in Normal, Hard. 6 Combo colours on Insane and Extra (since SV change makes player is confusing use combo colours)

ok done with Mapset.

[Extra]
First Try -> http://puu.sh/9AoEZ/7d1aa513a2.osr
Second try -> http://puu.sh/9AoRu/b208ea3f33.osr

this map is great! but the flow still needs some mods by other i think

00:42:986 (5) - new combo in here
01:12:037 (1,2,3) - add some sound in here please
01:28:142 (5) - new combo in here
01:59:406 (5) - ^same
02:02:563 (1,2,3) - add some sound in here

idk but it's too much random sliders and jumps, and i cant feel it right now. maybe try to sort out the bad slider just for perfect flow
and, pay attention to my replay. i play just 2x try so if i had miss or slider break maybe some mistake in that part or maybe just me cant bear with it :)

[Insane]
First try -> http://puu.sh/9ApNj/71746e9ffa.osr
Second try -> http://puu.sh/9ApZg/d5e923a816.osr

i think somebody missing in here
00:35:721 (5) - try this one http://puu.sh/9Aq5A/f52cfd8e38.jpg
00:36:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try this pattern http://puu.sh/9AqbI/65ccb05ea9.jpg + http://puu.sh/9Aqdj/8fcdb6e3f7.jpg
00:42:985 (4) - new combo this one
00:43:616 (8) - ^ same
00:45:827 (7) - ^ same or just ignore it
00:52:774 (7) - Need to be New combo
00:56:090 (6) - slider like this i think ( need some changes to other notes http://puu.sh/9Aqln/6462572502.jpg
01:07:932 (5) - new combo it, it's too long for this pattern
01:23:248 (6,7,8) - seems this slider so random try this pattern (example) http://puu.sh/9Aqv2/1c0960f95d.jpg
01:26:406 (3,4) - try this one (example) http://puu.sh/9Aqzf/f92ecc4ee2.jpg
01:34:142 (7) - new combo it
02:18:195 (7,8,9) - any good idea for this pattern?? try this maybe http://puu.sh/9AqJ4/8208058d93.jpg

ok that's it maybe some part i skipped cause the things is same like my mod, like New combo in many part, or maybe try to New combo in long stream, cause combo numbers is important thing

So, this is the last one, sorry if i had some mistakes by my mod. maybe cause it quick mod, im quickly to mod this map. see ya~
I apologize for posting this ;A; I didn't mean to
Topic Starter
moph
wat^
ALSO UPDATED FINALLY
Norb
wth just rank already orz
Topic Starter
moph

Dubu wrote:

wth just rank already orz
One day ;___;
Orhjn
Ooh god, my lovely song! Thank you, i'll hope it's get ranked soon <3
Lucrisiah
this is going to be a great beatmap ;)
Starfy

Tess wrote:

Starfort's Hyper
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 00:27:075 (4) - This blanket is really uneven and extremely tight, try lowering and fixing it Fixed
  2. 00:27:707 (6) - ^But move it more to the right instead Fixed
  3. 00:30:075 (3) - I suggest making this into a single circle, moving 00:30:391 (1) - to 00:30:233 - instead and adding a circle at 00:30:707 - x56 y320, with a whistle Too weird
  4. 01:04:970 (2,3,4,5) - These 4 sliders are very counterrhythmic, they don't succeed at accentuating the music and purely because you neglect all the pressurized points in the rhythm by flooding them with sliderends. I highly suggest you rework this, just remove 01:06:233 (6) - this circle, move 01:04:970 (2,3,4,5) - all four of these to the first downbeat you can find ( 01:05:128 - ) and stack a circle on the sliderhead of 01:05:128 (2) - , at 01:04:970 - ok I tried to fix it
  5. 01:10:496 (4) - The rhythm after this is kind of skewed. What I suggest is replacing 01:10:496 (4) - this slider with a circle (with clap), moving 01:10:812 (5) - to 01:10:496 - and x420 y342 (or some other playfield position you might prefer) and moving 01:11:286 (6,7) - to 01:11:128 - , finally finishing by stacking a circle beneath 01:11:443 (7) - , located at 01:11:601 - on the timeline. If you want an image of how the timeline looks after these changes, it's this It makes the rhythm becomes more weird
  6. 01:12:707 (2) - This rhythm doesn't match the song at all. What you want is a note 01:12:707 - here, 01:13:023 - here and 01:13:338 - here, anything else is just overmapped a lot. IT MATCHES THE SOUND. I PROMISE!
  7. 01:14:441 (1) - I suggest moving this to the left a bit so there's no unsightly overlaps, and then adjust 01:13:654 (3) - accordingly. Fixed
  8. 01:16:809 (6) - Don't end a slider on a big tick... It really doesn't work, it completely messes up the rhythm here. What I suggest is to make 6 into a circle and move 01:17:125 (1,2,3) - to 01:16:967 - , Ctrl G 01:16:967 (1) - , then 01:17:441 (2) - and then 01:17:914 (3) - , and finally add a circle on 01:18:230 - x425 y202, removing 01:18:388 (1) - and NC'ing 01:18:546 (2) - afterwards. It may sound like a mouthful but it'll really be worth it, the rhythms will feel much more natural like this. (Image of the rhythm for reference) I partly fixed
  9. 01:19:177 (4) - Try making this into two circles instead, this is a Hyper and sliderends don't accentuate snares at all Too weird for me
  10. 01:23:914 (4) - This blanket is way too tight... Try spacing it out a little Fixed
  11. 01:24:388 (5) - Once again with the unaccentuative rhythm. Try making this into a circle and moving 01:24:704 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - to 01:24:546 - , then move 01:28:493 (1) - to 01:28:335 - x262 y123 and add an NC to 01:28:651 (2) - , removing it from 01:28:335 (1) - afterwards. Fixed
  12. 01:32:598 (2,3) - This is really counter-intuitive, I suggest Ctrl + G'ing 01:32:125 (1) - and stacking 01:32:598 (2) - on the sliderhead of 01:32:906 (3) - instead. That still wouldn't be optimal but it would at least preserve your style.
    Hitsounds This is not the pattern that i want
    1. 00:31:338 (4) - Add whistle on the sliderhead Fixed
    2. 00:31:338 (4,7) - ^ Fixed
    3. 00:31:338 (4,7) - ^ Fixed
    4. 00:35:917 (5) - ^ Fixed
    5. 00:36:391 (6) - Add whistle Fixed
    6. 00:37:654 (3) - Remove whistle on the sliderend Fixed
    7. 00:38:128 (1) - Lower the volume of this spinnerend just a bit Fixed
Sorry for so late to replay the map (Because of my exam)
http://puu.sh/iEskT/96abd3586c.zip
Thanks for your mod!
Ciyus Miapah

Tess wrote:

Starfort's Hyper
Rhythms & Patterns
  1. 01:58:495 (4) - Try replacing this with a circle at x23 y222 and moving 01:58:811 (5,6) - to 01:58:653 - instead, then add a circle at 01:59:284 - , stacked on the sliderhead of 01:59:442 (7) - for better matching the music
  2. 02:07:333 (1) - This is a really uncomfortable pattern, try stacking it on the head of 02:07:491 (2) - instead
  3. 02:09:228 (3) - Ctrl G would fit better here, but then try moving 02:09:859 (1) - to x366 y30 for better flow
  4. 02:12:386 (1) - This overlap is very hidoi ._. why not move it to x393 y231 instead?
  5. 02:17:122 (4) - Try ctrl G'ing this and then moving 02:17:438 (1) - to x300 y171, then stack the head of 02:18:386 (4) - on (1) as well for aesthetic purposes well i like this pattern so will keep it for while
  6. 02:25:017 (9) - The spacing here is very inconsistent, moving it to x75 y293 would fix that looks SV change made that spacing different lol
sorry for late answer i was only focused on something, yeah i fix all suggestion except red one
thanks for mod :3

StarFort
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sheela


Hello moph!

General

  1. Some of the hitsound files have a delay. I managed to the remove them, so here are the new ones: http://puu.sh/iEzGM/307d59a36a.zip
  2. Only to the mapper moph: the sections 01:12:075 to 01:13:970 and 02:02:600 to 02:04:495 don't have hitsounds which feels empty. You can add a finish on 01:12:075 -, a clap on 01:12:707 - 01:13:338 - 01:13:575 - 01:13:812 - and you should know for the other section. The volume is also quite low. I suggest you go for 40 ~ 50%.

Easy

  1. 00:49:338 (1,2) - I don't really like how the overlap has been done there. How about you add a hard curve to x:61 y:158? I think it's cool like that. Don't forget to move 00:51:865 (1) if you apply it.
  2. 01:00:707 (2,1) - Try avoiding the overlap. Looks ugly to me. Try this pattern instead:
  3. 02:55:669 (3,4) - Add a new combo to them since there is a timing change.

Normal

  1. 00:45:549 (3) - If I follow the hitsound pattern the tail is missing a clap. This also applies to 01:12:075 (1) - 01:27:862 (2) - 01:50:442 (2) - 01:51:232 (3) - 02:02:600 (1) -
  2. 01:07:023 (1,2) - Since you use 1/2 rhythm there the distance between those two objects must be smaller, in order to not get confused.
  3. 01:34:169 (4) - The tail is not on the right tick; it should end on 01:34:811 . The only way to end it there is to edit the .osu file. Although editing the codes is unrankable, I think this is special because of the timing. Here's the code you want to use to replace the slider.
    SPOILER
    40,284,94169,2,0,P|124:312|212:277,1,182.65,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  4. 02:24:701 (4) - The tail is unsnapped. The slider should end on 02:25:348 .
  5. 02:57:233 (4) - The rhythm would hit better if the head and tail are circles. The drums are strong there, so using clickable objects would fit better with the instruments.

Hard

  1. 00:45:865 (5) - I think the head is missing a clap. There's also 01:08:601 (1) -
  2. 00:56:601 (1) - The new combo doesn't do anything with the music, and you already have one on the following object. I'd remove it.
  3. 01:02:601 (2,3,1) - I suggest you unstack them to get a better readability in the rhythm. Plus the overlap is kind of ugly if you see it when testing or having Stacking option enabled (View -> Stacking). You can a triangle pattern using 1.0x as distance, like in the image in the box below:
  4. 01:08:917 (2,3) - Keep the distance constant. Compared to the other similar patterns this is only one with that distance. You can alter the distance between 01:09:233 (3,1) since it fits.
  5. 01:28:019 (4) - 01:51:389 (5) - Missing clap on the tail.
  6. 01:50:916 (3) - Needs a clap.
  7. 01:52:811 (2,3,4) - Similar to 01:02:601 (2,3,1) . How about you move 01:53:442 (3) to x:182 y:69?

Starfort's Hyper

StarForYou
  1. 00:27:075 (4,6) - Nitpicking, but the blanket pattern isn't perfect.
  2. 01:08:917 (7) - Little stuff. Move the slider down, x:385 y:167, to avoid the little overlap with the previous object's tail and head.
  3. 01:22:019 (4,1) - Switch the new combo since the (4) lands on the downbeat.
  4. 01:32:906 (3) - Because of the wildness in the kiai (there's a lot of jumps), I thought this slider is on the downbeat 01:32:756 . And I don't know if other players will notice that. Otherwise how about you try this pattern or blanketing with the following object.

Insane

  1. 00:45:707 (6) - The tail should have a clap. Also 01:50:758 (5) - 01:08:128 (6,7) -
  2. 01:51:547 (7) - The clap would be needed on the head.
I honestly couldn't find anything else. Really nice difficulty you have here!

Extra

  1. 01:24:546 (1) - The movement feels weird when the distance between this and the previous slider is short. Before them the patterns were going crazy, but this kind of breaks the combo. You can try switching the placement of 01:24:546 (1,2) . I think it's better like that.
  2. 01:49:968 to 01:52:179 - There might be claps missing in this section.
  3. 02:15:860 (6,7) - The flow would go better if you switch them. The direction will likely go to the same direction. If you see, most movement goes to the right. If you applied my suggestion, for 02:16:175 (8) you go stack to 02:17:123 (6) .
I really love your Extra!

Fort's Extra

  1. 00:26:286 (5,6) - 00:31:338 (5,6) - 00:36:391 (6,7) - The spacings don't really fit with this section. It's somehow "clam", so it's not too hard. And in my opinion there's nothing that could make the distance pretty large. Although there's 00:29:128 (1,2) but the beat is strong there.
  2. 01:22:967 (6,7) - Try switching the placement there. It feels like a better flow to me.
  3. 01:37:653 (3) - I think there's a missing clap on the head.
  4. 01:40:179 (3) - Same as above.
  5. 02:04:495 - The kiai time is starting too early. It's looks weird to me. In my opinion it should be on 02:04:965 . Also you didn't do that to the sections before and after.
  6. 02:36:542 (1,2) - How about adding more space between? Everything goes wild in the kiai section and it's kind of uncomfortable to play. Try moving the circle to x:323 y:177.
Cool difficulty!
I really like this mapset! I think you have done a very good job. Poke me again for a recheck! If you have questions don't hesitate asking them.
Topic Starter
moph

sheela901 wrote:



Hello moph!

General

  1. Some of the hitsound files have a delay. I managed to the remove them, so here are the new ones: http://puu.sh/iEzGM/307d59a36a.zip Cool updated them
  2. Only to the mapper moph: the sections 01:12:075 to 01:13:970 and 02:02:600 to 02:04:495 don't have hitsounds which feels empty. You can add a finish on 01:12:075 -, a clap on 01:12:707 - 01:13:338 - 01:13:575 - 01:13:812 - and you should know for the other section. The volume is also quite low. I suggest you go for 40 ~ 50%. applied the hitsound suggestions, as for volume im pretty sure all the parts are above 50% right? The lower ones would be silenced slider ends

Easy

  1. 00:49:338 (1,2) - I don't really like how the overlap has been done there. How about you add a hard curve to x:61 y:158? I think it's cool like that. Don't forget to move 00:51:865 (1) if you apply it. fixed, using your example
  2. 01:00:707 (2,1) - Try avoiding the overlap. Looks ugly to me. Try this pattern instead: fixed, using your example
  3. 02:55:669 (3,4) - Add a new combo to them since there is a timing change. fixed

Normal

  1. 00:45:549 (3) - If I follow the hitsound pattern the tail is missing a clap. This also applies to 01:12:075 (1) - 01:27:862 (2) - 01:50:442 (2) - 01:51:232 (3) - 02:02:600 (1) - oops fixed
  2. 01:07:023 (1,2) - Since you use 1/2 rhythm there the distance between those two objects must be smaller, in order to not get confused. think this was an accident, fixed
  3. 01:34:169 (4) - The tail is not on the right tick; it should end on 01:34:811 . The only way to end it there is to edit the .osu file. Although editing the codes is unrankable, I think this is special because of the timing. Here's the code you want to use to replace the slider. cool, fixed
    SPOILER
    40,284,94169,2,0,P|124:312|212:277,1,182.65,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  4. 02:24:701 (4) - The tail is unsnapped. The slider should end on 02:25:348 . changed it a little bit (couldn't figure out how to fix the slider orz)
  5. 02:57:233 (4) - The rhythm would hit better if the head and tail are circles. The drums are strong there, so using clickable objects would fit better with the instruments. true, fixed

Hard

  1. 00:45:865 (5) - I think the head is missing a clap. There's also 01:08:601 (1) - fixed
  2. 00:56:601 (1) - The new combo doesn't do anything with the music, and you already have one on the following object. I'd remove it. oops accidental, fixed
  3. 01:02:601 (2,3,1) - I suggest you unstack them to get a better readability in the rhythm. Plus the overlap is kind of ugly if you see it when testing or having Stacking option enabled (View -> Stacking). You can a triangle pattern using 1.0x as distance, like in the image in the box below: fixed, using your example
  4. 01:08:917 (2,3) - Keep the distance constant. Compared to the other similar patterns this is only one with that distance. You can alter the distance between 01:09:233 (3,1) since it fits. fixed
  5. 01:28:019 (4) - 01:51:389 (5) - Missing clap on the tail. fixed
  6. 01:50:916 (3) - Needs a clap. fixed
  7. 01:52:811 (2,3,4) - Similar to 01:02:601 (2,3,1) . How about you move 01:53:442 (3) to x:182 y:69? cool, fixed

Insane

  1. 00:45:707 (6) - The tail should have a clap. Also 01:50:758 (5) - 01:08:128 (6,7) - fixed
  2. 01:51:547 (7) - The clap would be needed on the head.fixed

I honestly couldn't find anything else. Really nice difficulty you have here! wow thanks!

Extra

  1. 01:24:546 (1) - The movement feels weird when the distance between this and the previous slider is short. Before them the patterns were going crazy, but this kind of breaks the combo. You can try switching the placement of 01:24:546 (1,2) . I think it's better like that. I see what you mean but I think its okay as the slider sort of mellows out the momentum from before, also I think swapping (1) and (2) ruins the flow a bit so no change here
  2. 01:49:968 to 01:52:179 - There might be claps missing in this section. fixed
  3. 02:15:860 (6,7) - The flow would go better if you switch them. The direction will likely go to the same direction. If you see, most movement goes to the right. If you applied my suggestion, for 02:16:175 (8) you go stack to 02:17:123 (6). good point, fixed using your suggestion
I really love your Extra! Thank you!!

I really like this mapset! I think you have done a very good job. Poke me again for a recheck! If you have questions don't hesitate asking them.
Thank you so much for the mod!!
Ciyus Miapah

sheela901 wrote:

Fort's Extra

  1. 00:26:286 (5,6) - 00:31:338 (5,6) - 00:36:391 (6,7) - The spacings don't really fit with this section. It's somehow "clam", so it's not too hard. And in my opinion there's nothing that could make the distance pretty large. Although there's 00:29:128 (1,2) but the beat is strong there. let me explain this, im doing this because 00:26:286 (5) - has strong upbeat synth which it can be suitable for this flow movement, and this notes 00:26:444 (6) - is a transition between vocal and instrumental synth sound, so it pretty cool when i change area with that area change (just pay attention i made something on intro)
  2. 01:22:967 (6,7) - Try switching the placement there. It feels like a better flow to me. looks this circular pattern seems fair with previous pattern
  3. 01:37:653 (3) - I think there's a missing clap on the head. fix
  4. 01:40:179 (3) - Same as above.
  5. 02:04:495 - The kiai time is starting too early. It's looks weird to me. In my opinion it should be on 02:04:965 . Also you didn't do that to the sections before and after.
  6. 02:36:542 (1,2) - How about adding more space between? Everything goes wild in the kiai section and it's kind of uncomfortable to play. Try moving the circle to x:323 y:177.
Cool difficulty! thanks
thanks for mods sheela, i fix all except red one
Fxtra
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: FIRSTUTAU.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 74049
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 44239,64496,82023,88338,104880,115023,150354
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.3

[Metadata]
Title:FIRST
TitleUnicode:FIRST
Artist:cillia
ArtistUnicode:cillia
Creator:moph
Version:Fort's Extra
Source:
Tags:vocaloid niki utau kasane teto cover kyaami fort starforyou
BeatmapID:467689
BeatmapSetID:171388

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HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
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SliderTickRate:2

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Starfy

sheela901 wrote:

Starfort's Hyper

StarForYou
  1. 00:27:075 (4,6) - Nitpicking, but the blanket pattern isn't perfect.
  2. 01:08:917 (7) - Little stuff. Move the slider down, x:385 y:167, to avoid the little overlap with the previous object's tail and head.
  3. 01:22:019 (4,1) - Switch the new combo since the (4) lands on the downbeat.
  4. 01:32:906 (3) - Because of the wildness in the kiai (there's a lot of jumps), I thought this slider is on the downbeat 01:32:756 . And I don't know if other players will notice that. Otherwise how about you try this pattern or blanketing with the following object.
All fixed
Tks for mod & http://puu.sh/iFCNn/dd11e987c7.zip
sheela
Everything goes very well. Let's level up this mapset!



@next BN: sukiNathan's mapset has the same song and has been qualified. Wait until it's either ranked or disqualified.
Also, I have made the mapper change the length of a slider (01:34:169 (4) - ) in Normal which requires editing through the .osu file due to timing change. Check it maybe?
Topic Starter
moph
thank you!! \o/
DeletedUser_4329079
Hype
Ciyus Miapah
xD
Starfy
Hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Topic Starter
moph
UPDATE
  1. added Advanced diff
  2. fixed a surprising amount of missing hitsounds in Normal, Hard, Insane, Extra
  3. CS for hard was changed back to 4
  4. Fort's Extra renamed to Fort's Finale
Buttercup
just a suggestion:

I think inconsistent an easier extra diff be ar9,4/od9 and a harder be ar9/od8
better reverse them
Fort's Extra seems better to read ar9,4/9,5 too
o3o
Topic Starter
moph

Nhawak wrote:

just a suggestion:

I think inconsistent an easier extra diff be ar9,4/od9 and a harder be ar9/od8
better reverse them
Fort's Extra seems better to read ar9,4/9,5 too
o3o
Pretty sure Fort specifically wanted those settings for his diff tho so its his choice I guess,
I totally agree with at least a higher AR tho :L
thanks for the input o/
Ciyus Miapah
moph, what the are you doing with this metronoms?

please fix this D:

but im update my diff first xD
http://puu.sh/iK5af/ca9e4fce0e.txt
Yuii-
I'm bubbling popping, as a new difficulty was added you will need further modding regarding this difficulty.
I also found some timing mistakes, we already talked this via in-game.
We talked about the bad usage of metronomes, so this is another point to take into consideration.

I would also like to add one more point:

  1. Regarding the last spinner (inconsistency):
    02:59:284 - 03:04:495 - Easy
    02:59:284 - 03:04:495 - Normal
    02:59:284 - 03:04:495 - Starfort's Hyper
    02:59:205 - 03:04:495 - Advanced, Hard, Insane, Extra
    02:59:205 - 03:02:916 - Fort's Finale
I will be handle this in the following days by doing as many re-checks as I can.
But you will still need more mods for the new difficulty.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Ciyus Miapah
Advanced

02:14:438 (7) - are you sure you put this overlap like this? it looks weird since you didnt map this before
02:35:752 (2) - move to x240y48 looks better
02:42:226 - it feels weird if you skin this vocal i think (put 02:42:068 (5) - to 02:42:226 and move to x140y208 looks better rhythm since you follow vocal before)

this map is perfection

umm and i fix something at Finale Diff
http://puu.sh/iKaB2/91d5f0952d.txt

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Topic Starter
moph

Fort wrote:

Advanced

02:14:438 (7) - are you sure you put this overlap like this? it looks weird since you didnt map this before hmm i think its okay
02:35:752 (2) - move to x240y48 looks better okay changed
02:42:226 - it feels weird if you skin this vocal i think (put 02:42:068 (5) - to 02:42:226 and move to x140y208 looks better rhythm since you follow vocal before)
I used the same rhythm there at the other kiais as well, overall I follow the drums more so keeping this way for now
this map is perfection
ty for taking a look o/
umm and i fix something at Finale Diff
http://puu.sh/iKaB2/91d5f0952d.txt

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Fixed all spinner inconsistencies
Yuii-
Via in-game:

  1. Changed the artist of Fort's diff.
Additional Modding


[Easy]

General:
  1. 00:59:444 - Unnecessary green line. It's copying the same elements than used in the previous one, I don't know if you wanted to change something else from here.
Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 01:34:811 (6) - NC stanza.
  2. 02:25:333 (4) - ^
  3. 02:31:663 (1) - In my opinion, this NC is completely unnecessary considering that is following the same rhythm and volume than the previous slider. Also, it'd create a 2-2-2 pattern.
[Normal]

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:39:233 (4) - Yeah, more NCs.
  2. 02:25:348 (5) - ^
  3. 02:31:663 (1) - Same as explained in Easy.
[Advanced]

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:39:233 (4) - Still the same.
  2. 01:34:811 (7) - Same.
  3. 01:46:495 (5,6) - This sounds a bit bad as is not following the correct rhythm. Try switching places between notes so you have the circle first in order to make emphasis in the bass drum and then following the vocals with the slider.
  4. 01:48:547 - What about this spacing? The slider that you mapped in 01:48:705 (4) - is not following the vocal that well, in fact, it's mapped in a very random spot. Try to do something in order to cover this section.
  5. 01:51:074 - ^
  6. 02:04:495 (4) - This is up-to-you, but NC'd be cool as the accentuation change in the music is extremely noticeable. You COULD HAVE reduced the SV here, but since is not a high diff. map, I'll leave this decision to you.
  7. 02:11:912 - Same as explained above.
  8. 02:25:348 (7) - Yup, the NC again.
  9. 02:31:663 (2) - Aaaand you didn't NC it here, this could be considered as inconsistency with Combo Colours, take care.
  10. 02:42:226 - You know.
[Hard]

Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:21:549 (6) - Let's avoid unnecessary long combos!
  2. 00:39:233 (7) - This
  3. 01:34:811 (8) - is
  4. 02:04:495 (5) - a
  5. 02:25:333 (8) - good
  6. 02:31:663 (1) - map
[Starfort's Hyper]

General:
  1. 01:44:917 - Unnecessary green line.
  2. 03:01:969 - ^
  3. 03:04:495 - ^
Rhythm and Gameplay

  1. 00:53:128 (1) - Why there's a NC here?
  2. 01:00:707 (1) - ^
  3. 01:15:862 (2) - In my honest opinion, this is overmapped. Considering isn't such a high difficulty and the fact that there's NOTHING right there, I see it quite pointless.
  4. 01:24:546 (1,2) - 01:25:809 (1,2) - 01:27:072 (1,2) - For all these sliders mentioned, try replacing them for 3 sliders as the picture shows: http://puu.sh/iKhkz/7adf117f6c.jpg
  5. 01:34:800 (1) - YES!
  6. 01:46:811 - This blanket is getting on my nerves, try placing a circle or something like that!
  7. 02:25:348 (10) - NC's missing right here.

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I will continue tomorrow! 3 diffs left.
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