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ClariS - flowery

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Topic Starter
Andrea
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on venerdì 16 maggio 2014 at 17:07:44

Artist: ClariS
Title: flowery
Tags: Alice Clara kz livetune BIRTHDAY Collab Collaboration osuplayer111 alacat Gero Momochikun Samah
BPM: 85
Filesize: 8871kb
Play Time: 05:22
Difficulties Available:
  1. Memories (4,54 stars, 633 notes)
Download: ClariS - flowery
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My 204th Beatmap.

A really calm and nice song from ClariS, awesome collab with many great mappers! <3

Special thanks to Damnae for the SB names images! ^^


Mapset:

Memories - Done.
HabiHolic
BakAndrea
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thanks for your star Habi :3
xclaudioh
excellent map :3 good job
Topic Starter
Andrea
I'm glad you like it :P
Selisi
Nice~ (≧▽≦)//~☆
lovekotori
thx see me map
i like you ><
Andrea map is good >//<
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thanks for your support guys ><
riffy
Yo, as requested.

[General]
  1. Add Collab and Collaboration to the tags. Those who like playing maps with mixed styles would thank you for yousing these tags. :)
  2. Try to remove the green combo colour. There're no green lines on the BG, so this green colour looks a bit out of place, I think.
[Memories]


  • Andrea
  1. 00:17:526 (1,2,3,1) - minor - that'd be awesome to use some blankets here. It will fit with your style + it will also look pretty neat.Looks cute, huh?
  2. 00:58:291 (6) - what a cute piano sound, try to replace 00:58:291 (6) - with a circle, so it will follow the sound of the piano closer.
  3. 05:18:585 - start the spinner here, and hremove the circle from this beat. Why? Because this diff is meant to be playable in all game modes, including o!m and taiko, while the beginning of this 1/4 spinner is totally offbeat :(
Momochikun
  1. 00:34:644 - starting such sliders on the blue ticks feels weird to me. I'd go with something like this, somehow this sounds better to me. Anyway, get more opinions before appliying/rejecting the suggestion!
    Note: it's quite clear, that the same applies for all similar sliders in your part. So, it may take some time to change it.
  2. 03:17:173 (1,2,3,4) - nazi - try changing the shape, so the pattern woulld look a bit neater? Example
    Note: the stack is invisible in game, so hurting your VISIBLE attern to keep something invisible seems pointless to me.
Gero
  1. 01:18:232 (2) - replacing this one with a slider would work better with the vocals. It wn't change your rhythm that much, but the slider will represent vocals better, while circle here gives an unpleasant feeling of incompliteness.
  2. 04:31:291 (1,2,3) - it looks like your style has changed in some aspects, so I'm not sure if you want to apply this or not.. well, anyway. This might give you some smoother flow, which is awesome for a relaxing song, please try it!
Samah
  1. 02:03:761 (1,2) - I do like your style, but this pattern appears to be a bit unusual and unexpected here. It feels totally out of place there because nobody else i the collab uses similar patterns. :( Oh well, talk to Andrea about this pattern.
  2. 03:32:349 (4,5) - the transition here feels a bit unnatural and forced. Try making it a bit smoother, so, the flow will be more enjoyable. example!
alacat
  1. 02:39:761 (6) - the DS difference make this pattern confusing and the second repeat is way too hard to notice. It makes this relaxing diff confusing and unreadabl, so I strongly recommend you to get rid of this 2x-repeated slider asap! :(
Great job, everyone! Thoug Mochi's sliders on the blue tick really bugged me everything else was great!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thank you for the nice mod as always Bakari, updated everything. <3
Natsu
<3 ;)
Topic Starter
Andrea
Omg Natsu thank you for the stars ;w;

That's so nice of you <3
Kei
Aaaaand here I am. Let's try a different modding style this time.

  • Color guide
  1. Normal suggestions.
  2. Very suggestive stuff. Apply changes only if you like. Also applied for suggestions that don't affect your map at all.
  3. Unrankable or highly recommended to change.
  • [Memories]
  1. 00:22:467 (3) - You could try this rhythm instead of your current to follow the vocals, but that's just up to you. It's just an idea I had when looking at this little pause. What I did in this picture is adding a repeat to (3) and replacing slider (4) with a circle at its end which is at 00:24:232.
  2. 01:13:644 (3) - Tbh, this slider looks ugly and out of place with that V shape. How about making it simple and straight like 01:13:997 (4)? Like this:
  3. 01:18:408 (3) - Lol I don't know how did I notice this but.. this note is misplaced by 1 small grid. Try fixing it with DS.
  4. 01:29:879 (1) - The combos here don't fit the music imo. I think it'd fit more if you remove the NC of this slider, and then add it to 01:30:938 (2).
  5. 01:33:761 (1) - Same here. The combos feel wrong according to the music. I think it fits more the music if you remove this NC, then add it to 01:35:173 (7).
  6. 01:43:291 (2,3,4) - I suggest you to place these 3 notes more curvy like this for a better flow.
  7. 01:55:291 (1,2,3) - This pattern looks scrambled. I think you should rearrange a little bit (2) and (3)'s placement for a better flow. Like this. Looks more clean and flows nicely:
  8. 01:58:114 (1,2,3) - Same problem again ^. Here the main problem is 01:59:173 (3)'s curve, because it doesn't follow up with (1) and (2). To improve the flow here, I'd change (3)'s curve like this. Looks and flows better imo.
  9. 02:01:997 (3) - Same here, (3) doesn't follow up with 02:00:938 (1,2) and looks ugly placed like that imo, plus, its curve doesn't even follow up to 02:03:055 (4). To put it more simple: (3)'s curve is going to the right, while (4) is placed to the left which is the opposite way of (3)'s curve and that's what derails more the flow here. Please try out this pattern, it's similar to what I suggested you up there ^
  10. 02:03:761 (1,2) - This overlap looks messy as well, imo. I'd suggest you to make a cleaner pattern with better flow. I'd go for something like this:
  11. 02:18:938 (4) - Place this at 02:17:879 (1)'s place?
  12. 02:37:644 (1) - The flow here would be better if you make this slider curved like this imo, cuz it follows up (2) and (3)'s placement better.
  13. 02:51:761 (1,2,3,4,5) - To make the flow more natural I'd suggest you to change the curves of (1) and (3) like this:
  14. 03:07:644 (4,5) - This pattern is too overlapped imo and may result difficult for players to see that (5) is actually a slider, due to (3) and (4)'s hibursts. I'd recommend you to "stick out" (5)'s end a little more, like this:
  15. 04:57:055 (5) - Make this curved down instead of up for a slightly better flow?
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I was going to divide parts by name cuz it's a collab but then I thought the mod would be awfully long so I didn't do it.

Pretty solid map, for a very relaxing song. Good job everyone!
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thanks for the awesome mod Kei, applied everything and updated. <3
ritsu-tanaika
Mod~

00:04:820 (4) - Suggest moving to (260,204) to make a triangular pattern for 00:04:467 (3,4,5) - a straight line is a bit less appealing in my opinion

00:27:055 (3) - it might flow better if it was moved to (324,16)

00:36:055 (5) - suggest you stack on top of 00:36:232 (1) - to use the same triplet pattern as you did for 00:31:820 (4,5,6) -

00:51:408 (3) - curving this slider might be more appealing~ just a suggestion on shape and stuff


01:31:291 (2) - adding a clap along with the whistle sounds better in my opinion

02:07:644 (3) - try to curve this slider more to make the overlap look smoother. I suggest the middle dot on the slider path to be at (392,168) while the slider itself be moved to (456,116)


02:10:467 (3) - Same suggestion as above, but if you accept the mod above, you could just copy and paste that same slider instead

02:30:232 (3) - I think if it was moved to (144,124) the flow would be better, also more equal distance spacing

02:57:408 (1) - soz for being nazi, but the blanket would look better if it was moved to (384,300)

03:07:820 (5) - For slider head, it sounds better if sampleset was Auto instead of Normal

03:19:820 (7) - Might look neater if it was stacked on top of 03:19:997 (1) -

03:22:820 (1) - Suggest moving to (252,132). Ill show you how you can make a double triangle pattern if you follow this. up to you if you want to follow though

triangle pattern 1 [03:22:114 (4,5,1)]


triangle pattern 2: [03:22:467 (5,1,2)]


04:00:055 (2,3) - I think the distance gap between this 1/4 jump may be a bit too big

Moving head of 04:00:408 (3) - to (228,264) might be more appropriate

04:03:408 (3,4) - Changing these notes to a 1/4 slider might be more appropriate since the vocal is stretched here instead of two beats




Hope I helped, good luck
Topic Starter
Andrea
Applied some stuff and updated, thanks for checking ritsu. <3
captin1
hi

SPOILER
2014-05-14 17:20 captin1: prob not much to say but i think i saw a couple
2014-05-14 17:20 Andrea: yay xD
2014-05-14 17:20 Andrea: yeah it's pretty simple
2014-05-14 17:21 Andrea: I'm ok for irc too ~
2014-05-14 17:21 captin1: ah hmm
2014-05-14 17:21 captin1: 00:20:349 (1,2,3) - move whistle from end of 1 to 2, and then remove from the head of 3? I think this sounds more fitting since the vocal accent is on 2
2014-05-14 17:22 Andrea: done and remove from 3 start
2014-05-14 17:22 Andrea: or it sounds annoying imo
2014-05-14 17:22 captin1: heh
2014-05-14 17:22 Andrea: I dislike hitsounds in a row ><
2014-05-14 17:22 captin1: amused cause that's what i did suggest
2014-05-14 17:23 Andrea: oh oops
2014-05-14 17:23 Andrea: I didn't see
2014-05-14 17:23 Andrea: my bad xD
2014-05-14 17:23 captin1: haha
2014-05-14 17:23 Andrea: but yeah I completely agreed as you see :D
2014-05-14 17:23 captin1: 00:36:938 (2) - shift a couple grids right, so it lines up with the curve better?
2014-05-14 17:24 Andrea: fixed :3
2014-05-14 17:27 captin1: 01:57:938 - add a note, stacked like the rest? with the melody
2014-05-14 17:28 Andrea: nice catch, added =w=
2014-05-14 17:29 captin1: 02:00:055 - hmm there's a bass drum note here too
2014-05-14 17:29 captin1: 02:11:349 - and here as well
2014-05-14 17:30 Andrea: done both and blame Samah
2014-05-14 17:30 captin1: lol
2014-05-14 17:30 Andrea: 1/2 mapper
2014-05-14 17:31 Andrea: added normalhit on both too btw
2014-05-14 17:31 captin1: 02:27:408 (4) - super nazi, x296 y216 would be a better triangle
2014-05-14 17:31 captin1: 02:33:938 (4) - normal hit?
2014-05-14 17:33 captin1: 03:06:938 (3,4,5) - not in a straight line, looks a bit funky
2014-05-14 17:35 captin1: 03:10:291 (3,4) - imo this was kinda sudden compared to the rest of the diff, with the 1/4 jump after a circle
2014-05-14 17:36 captin1: 03:30:408 - samah skipping bass drum notes again lol
2014-05-14 17:36 captin1: 03:33:938 - yep
2014-05-14 17:37 captin1: 03:41:702 -
2014-05-14 17:37 Andrea: oh god xD
2014-05-14 17:37 captin1: 03:45:232 -
2014-05-14 17:37 captin1: 03:52:997 - well you skipped one here haha
2014-05-14 17:39 captin1: 04:01:467 - here too although with how you have this pattern would be harder to fix, so up to you
2014-05-14 17:39 captin1: so many drum notes on blue ticks
2014-05-14 17:39 Andrea: I'll blame Samah for this
2014-05-14 17:39 Andrea: xD
2014-05-14 17:39 captin1: 04:04:291 -
2014-05-14 17:40 captin1: 04:49:467 (6) - missed normal hit
2014-05-14 17:41 captin1: 05:00:761 -
2014-05-14 17:41 captin1: 05:12:055 - aaaa im sorry this is like all i'm saying but there's so many skipped haha
2014-05-14 17:42 Andrea: it's okay :D
2014-05-14 17:42 Andrea: more score haha
2014-05-14 17:42 captin1: haha
2014-05-14 17:46 captin1: 04:42:938 (4) - ok, so i somehow got this into both triangles around it, rotate -6 and then x16 y140
2014-05-14 17:46 captin1: lol
2014-05-14 17:47 captin1: 04:52:467 (3) - bit right would even out the spacing
2014-05-14 17:48 captin1: nazi mod complete
2014-05-14 17:49 Andrea: yay xD

added a few more tags and everything checks out for me

Bubble #1~
Guy
Hi.

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.


[General]
  1. Add "livetune" to tags please. It is known in kz(livetune),

[Memories]


  • Andrea
  1. 01:00:232 (3) - hm, It looks random placement a little. Try to make a straight line. (2's end, 3 and 4's head)
  2. 01:01:291 (5,6) - if you changed above suggestion, maintain a symmetry please.
  3. 04:09:761 (1) - (nazi) move to x308 y168 please. make a triangle.


    Samah

  4. 01:58:114 (1,2,3) - not straight triplet only here in this part. try to move 01:58:997 (2) - this note x198 y108.
  5. 02:05:173 (3) - not fit the song this 1/2 repeat slider i thought. There should be better rhythm. please try this.

  6. 02:16:291 - Try to add a note here.


    Momochikun

  7. 00:32:702 (6) - Consider changing flow this slider. The flow will be improved over the current one.
  8. 00:44:526 - hmm why did you not add a note here? I suggest that add note in the same way as other places. (00:42:408 - , 00:38:879 - and so on)
  9. 03:14:349 (1,2) - design suggestion. like this slider curve and note placement? it looks better than current one imo.
  10. 03:16:467 (4) - Try blanket for the slider body.
  11. 03:19:291 (6,7,1) - hmm, note hides by 03:19:291 (6) - this slider body. Please try my suggesiton.


    Gero

  12. 04:17:526 (2) - Consider removing whistle out of slider end. not sound, not vocal here. so whistle sound is weird for me.
Call me back!
Momochikun

Guy wrote:

Hi.

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.


[General]
  1. Add "livetune" to tags please. It is known in kz(livetune),

[Memories]




  • Momochikun
  1. 00:32:702 (6) - Consider changing flow this slider. The flow will be improved over the current one. nope, the current pattern was did on purpose
  2. 00:44:526 - hmm why did you not add a note here? I suggest that add note in the same way as other places. (00:42:408 - , 00:38:879 - and so on) i want to create diagonal placement actually, also it would be very difficult to fix this.
  3. 03:14:349 (1,2) - design suggestion. like this slider curve and note placement? it looks better than current one imo. i like my current ><
  4. 03:16:467 (4) - Try blanket for the slider body. uhm.. okay
  5. 03:19:291 (6,7,1) - hmm, note hides by 03:19:291 (6) - this slider body. Please try my suggesiton. ok fixed
Call me back!
Thank you Guy ;)
Andrea go go <3
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thanks for checking Guy, fixed everything except the things that Mochi rejected. :3
Scorpiour
Marked for checking after you apply Guy's mod :>
Guy
okay :lol:

Bubble #2!
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thank you Guy-san <3

Gonna poke Scorpiour now :3
Scorpiour
Hi there~

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions


[Memories]
  1. 03:07:644 (4,5) - heard weird a little around here, the beat i recommend is :
  2. 04:17:526 (2) - also an uncomfortable beat, maybe try this?
That's all , call me back when you go through to mod ~
Topic Starter
Andrea
Fixed both, thank you! :3
Scorpiour
Approved~~!!
Satellite
Congratz :3
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thanks again Scorpiour <3

And thanks to Satellite as well *-*
Asagi
Gratz Gratz :)
alacat
omedeto :)
Gero
Congrats BL ~ :D
Loooctav
Graaaaaaaaatiz!
Kei
Graaaaaaaaaaaaatz >v<
Asphyxia
Graz!
Mao
Gratz Andrea-sama <3
Konei
Ah I really like this song.

Gratz Andrea!
ErunamoJAZZ
oh, congrats, but... i dont understad why a map of 5:22 is approval with only 1 diff; and the ranking criteria what?...
ok... the song is slow, but, this was very lazy... no ctb, no mania... u.u

EDIT> https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria 5min? plz
Lust
Congrats Andrea!
Topic Starter
Andrea

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

oh, congrats, but... i dont understad why a map of 5:22 is approval with only 1 diff; and the ranking criteria what?...
ok... the song is slow, but, this was very lazy... no ctb, no mania... u.u

EDIT> https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria 5min? plz
p/3031859 Please take a look at this.

Anyways, thanks everyone once again for the compliments. <3
Natsu
congratz :3
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