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it was not worth it
it was not worth it
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I got offered a threesome once but I decided to play osu instead because I was scaredwinber1 wrote:
i sacrificed a million dollar opportunity to play this game
it was not worth it
Who would want to be a millionaire when you can play a rhythm game?winber1 wrote:
i sacrificed a million dollar opportunity to play this game
it was not worth it
Osu! is life no need for anything else.Yazawa wrote:
Who would want to be a millionaire when you can play a rhythm game?winber1 wrote:
i sacrificed a million dollar opportunity to play this game
it was not worth it
I have some (hd)hr scores and I consider you better than me. All you need to play hr is stop mashing (just barely SSing od7 and 8 on some songs is mashing) and be really aware of when you need to hit dem circles. Also, ar10 quite a bit different from ar9.666 but you need to play it to get used to it.
SPOILER
I mean, this was on a multi 3 days after I came back from a 2-3 month break and you aim is sick compared to mine https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1881035 . I'm sure you are capable of playing hr if you try enough but your fingers might hurt more after doing it because I feel like I get way more drained when I play something trying to get a sick acc.
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I'm just gonna take it a bit slow.
Learning AR 10 will definitely NOT come along with Hard Rock training. It's just too large of a difficulty increase to jump straight into HR, otherwise I'm not gonna have fun playing the game (what's the point if I'm not having fun right?)
After I'm confident with AR 10, I'll go onto OD 10 and HP 10 after that. Even OD 9 is killing me (my Lagomorphic FC is literally my highest accuracy OD 9 run EVER)
Learning AR 10 will definitely NOT come along with Hard Rock training. It's just too large of a difficulty increase to jump straight into HR, otherwise I'm not gonna have fun playing the game (what's the point if I'm not having fun right?)
After I'm confident with AR 10, I'll go onto OD 10 and HP 10 after that. Even OD 9 is killing me (my Lagomorphic FC is literally my highest accuracy OD 9 run EVER)
SSing OD7 and 8 isn't mashing.
And Woob, how're you gonna learn AR10 without HR? Unless you want to manually edit all the maps you play to 10, unranked maps are your only other option. And you really, really shouldn't learn AR10 from unranked maps.
And Woob, how're you gonna learn AR10 without HR? Unless you want to manually edit all the maps you play to 10, unranked maps are your only other option. And you really, really shouldn't learn AR10 from unranked maps.
Why not?NarrillNezzurh wrote:
And you really, really shouldn't learn AR10 from unranked maps.
Wow people learn AR10 so late!? I was just starting to train it. Guess im gonna wait.
Hi I still haven't learn AR10 how are youSancheese wrote:
Wow people learn AR10 so late!? I was just starting to train it. Guess im gonna wait.
Nah, I started at like 10k. You're good.Sancheese wrote:
Wow people learn AR10 so late!? I was just starting to train it. Guess im gonna wait.
i still haven't learned ar 10
Topic Starter
I really do think it's a matter of preference until one day you have an urge to play AR 10.winber1 wrote:
i still haven't learned ar 10
Noone's really forced to have to learn AR 10. I can definitely see myself trying to seriously learn it though because I have to somehow find a way to work my way towards AR 10.3 so I can DT AR 9 maps.
Also before I forget:
Seriously though, my user profile might as well be a "LOOK HERE FOR EASY PP MAPS" page xD
at least you're conscious of the problem.Woobowiz wrote:
Seriously though, my user profile might as well be a "LOOK HERE FOR EASY PP MAPS" page xD
Don't want to sound like an asshole, but skystar hate coming from a guy who spams AR8 hards is topkek tier irony. His maps are ridiculously easy to read compared to some awkward 2008 DJpop bullshit stream maps or hanzershit. Upbeat doubles are fun when you get the feel for them.
imma let u finish but Fanzhen makes the best maps everthedamntrain wrote:
Don't want to sound like an asshole, but skystar hate coming from a guy who spams AR8 hards is topkek tier irony. His maps are ridiculously easy to read compared to some awkward 2008 DJpop bullshit stream maps or hanzershit. Upbeat doubles are fun when you get the feel for them.
huhhhhhhhhhhhhthedamntrain wrote:
Don't want to sound like an asshole, but skystar hate coming from a guy who spams AR8 hards is topkek tier irony. His maps are ridiculously easy to read compared to some awkward 2008 DJpop bullshit stream maps or hanzershit. Upbeat doubles are fun when you get the feel for them.
how is that ironic? i don't think you know what that word meansthedamntrain wrote:
Don't want to sound like an asshole, but skystar hate coming from a guy who spams AR8 hards is topkek tier irony. His maps are ridiculously easy to read compared to some awkward 2008 DJpop bullshit stream maps or hanzershit. Upbeat doubles are fun when you get the feel for them.
I think you should be able to solve the mystery if you look at the title of this thread and apply it to my post.Pettanko wrote:
how is that ironic? i don't think you know what that word meansthedamntrain wrote:
Don't want to sound like an asshole, but skystar hate coming from a guy who spams AR8 hards is topkek tier irony. His maps are ridiculously easy to read compared to some awkward 2008 DJpop bullshit stream maps or hanzershit. Upbeat doubles are fun when you get the feel for them.
????? D:thedamntrain wrote:
Don't want to sound like an asshole, but skystar hate coming from a guy who spams AR8 hards is topkek tier irony. His maps are ridiculously easy to read compared to some awkward 2008 DJpop bullshit stream maps or hanzershit. Upbeat doubles are fun when you get the feel for them.
huh
yay page 64 let's celebrate
yay page 64 let's celebrate
can't wait to see how you're going to celebrate the 69th pageZare wrote:
huh
yay page 64 let's celebrate
GoldenWolf wrote:
can't wait to see how you're going to celebrate the 69th pageZare wrote:
huh
yay page 64 let's celebrate
Holorin
But there is something i dont get. If your goal is Cookiezi-tier skill why are you farming pp
Because he's not really serious about shooting for cookiezi-tier.
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Who said I can't improve while I farm pp?Sancheese wrote:
But there is something i dont get. If your goal is Cookiezi-tier skill why are you farming pp
Is it really just one long farm if I keep getting top plays over time?
I'd say I'm always farming because at the moment my current skill level as determined by pp is ever so slightly behind (by about 100-150 pp I'd estimate). And when I farm the pp needed to match that specific skill level, I've already improved to a point past that level and the cycle continues like some sort of weird improvement cycle.
The only real concerns I have are:
- "When will I cap off in skill?"
- "How can I get over my anxiety issues when FCing harder and harder maps?"
- "Will I ever find out why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?"
That's like, your opinionNarrillNezzurh wrote:
Because he's not really serious about shooting for cookiezi-tier.
Zare wrote:
huh
yay page 64 let's celebrate
I expected them to open it only to find a sweater instead of the actual console
...Woobowiz wrote:
That's like, your opinion
If you're serious about going cookiezi-tier in a reasonable amount of time, you'll stop caring about pp altogether and work on strengthening the areas in which you're weak, and pp gains will happen naturally as a result. This self-improvement cycle will begin to slow down over time as your speed outpaces your aim and reading, and it will not be pleasant for you to have to make the transition from 230bpm AR8 DT plays to 140bpm CS5.2 HR plays 20k plays from now to learn AR10. You're just digging yourself a deeper hole by pp farming.Woobowiz wrote:
I'd say I'm always farming because at the moment my current skill level as determined by pp is ever so slightly behind (by about 100-150 pp I'd estimate). And when I farm the pp needed to match that specific skill level, I've already improved to a point past that level and the cycle continues like some sort of weird improvement cycle.
Well i never ever play for pp all my top plays are random beatmaps i played and happened to fc in like 1 to 5 tries so i guess rank come by itself. Its still a thousand time slower tho
Topic Starter
When you 100% know that you cannot improve any further even after training (usually mental).Sancheese wrote:
Oh and what is skill cap off
My speed and aim have been dominant since the day I started using a tablet. And as far as I know, I don't see much signs of slowing down (yet).NarrillNezzurh wrote:
This self-improvement cycle will begin to slow down over time as your speed outpaces your aim and reading, and it will not be pleasant for you to have to make the transition from 230bpm AR8 DT plays to 140bpm CS5.2 HR plays 20k plays from now to learn AR10.
Subjective and fallacious unless proven otherwise. (sorry for being difficult, but clearly we're of two different mindsets when it comes to improvement)NarrillNezzurh wrote:
You're just digging yourself a deeper hole by pp farming.
When you 100% know that you cannot improve any further even after training (usually mental).Woobowiz wrote:
Sancheese wrote:
Oh and what is skill cap off
there's always room for improvement. ;]
that's the point
It's not subjective at all. pp farming, by definition, impedes progress. You'll obviously still be improving because of the way ppv2 works, but you won't improve as fast as someone who pushes themself without regard for pp, and you'll only improve on things you're already good at. That means that while your speed will continue to get better over time, you'll eventually reach a point where your aim, reading, and accuracy are all laughable for your rank because all your peers won't have pigeonholed themselves so hard.Woobowiz wrote:
Subjective and fallacious unless proven otherwise. (sorry for being difficult, but clearly we're of two different mindsets when it comes to improvement)
Topic Starter
PP Farming has its own aspect of training consistency (also, wasn't one of PPv2's features was to avoid pp farming? I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere in the wiki).
Either way you're improving, and I'm okay with that. You can't really prove that it improves some faster. it's a big difference between being able to clear a difficult map or clear a map on HR than to FC it, let alone SS it. If you FC it, then you're already forced to farm pp. At any point you're point is invalidated by the fact that eventually it'll all come down to gaining pp. Saying "Farming pp" is way too general and should be specified to the rate you want to gain pp, then you have a sound argument (possibly)
Either way you're improving, and I'm okay with that. You can't really prove that it improves some faster. it's a big difference between being able to clear a difficult map or clear a map on HR than to FC it, let alone SS it. If you FC it, then you're already forced to farm pp. At any point you're point is invalidated by the fact that eventually it'll all come down to gaining pp. Saying "Farming pp" is way too general and should be specified to the rate you want to gain pp, then you have a sound argument (possibly)
You're correct, but only because of what "prove" entails. Given that skill is in no way dependent on pp, it should be obvious that the only effect pp farming of any kind can have on your rate of improvement is negative.Woobowiz wrote:
You can't really prove that it improves some faster.
the issue is that pp rewards Speed and Aim only.
To become a seriously good player there's other things that need to be learned, namely complex reading, even on low ARs and hard rhythms.
examples being Dragonforce maps (the old Lesjuh ones, ofc) or old DJPop maps (JOINT STRUGGLE, Marisa)
there's also maps like vals 0108 style maps, which require a level of consistency and reading that isn't valued by current pp
and eventually, consistent, good accuracy even on OD10, which will be required for decent HR scores
I agree, just by pushing your pp higher using DT on faster maps, you won't improve in other key aspects of the game
then again, playing DT is fun and feels cool, so I can see why one would want to keep doing that
To become a seriously good player there's other things that need to be learned, namely complex reading, even on low ARs and hard rhythms.
examples being Dragonforce maps (the old Lesjuh ones, ofc) or old DJPop maps (JOINT STRUGGLE, Marisa)
there's also maps like vals 0108 style maps, which require a level of consistency and reading that isn't valued by current pp
and eventually, consistent, good accuracy even on OD10, which will be required for decent HR scores
I agree, just by pushing your pp higher using DT on faster maps, you won't improve in other key aspects of the game
then again, playing DT is fun and feels cool, so I can see why one would want to keep doing that