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XGeneral2000 wrote:

Is there any other purpose of disabling aero besides eliminating lag (for users with low-end graphics cards, I'm guessing)? I've got it enabled because I like the appearance, but I don't really notice any lag in-game.
Eliminating lag is kind of important.
GoldenWolf
Doesn't matter how strong you computer is, aero will cause some huge ass input lag (ok maybe not THAT big, but clearly a noticeable difference)
I can immediately tell the difference between aero on and off though
Zare
everyone who has used a mouse or tablet for more than 2 minutes can notice that
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Woobowiz

SnowflakeStreet wrote:

Is it really just "playing more"?
Pretty much

SnowflakeStreet wrote:

I've been playing quite a bit and I feel like I haven't really improved at all since 5k plays ago
5k doesn't mean much if you don't include the timeframe ( ex : 5k plays in 2 months compared to 5k plays in a little over a week )

GoldenWolf wrote:

more exactly, playing more challenging stuff*
playing easy all day won't make you better at insanes yo
#2 Waifu speaks the truth. 2 weeks ago, I was training with 5.2-ish star AR 9 maps around 190-200 BPM, but now I'm training with anything over 6 Stars on AR 10 that exceeds 230 BPM (Do keep in mind that I can't clear 6+ star AR 9 maps, because my reading ability is probably my weakest trait).

The results show too, this morning I was finally able to clear maps like Cheatreal, and I got to around 76% into Image Material before I died by a deathstream.
winber1
i still use aero.

which assumes i know what aero is, who knows maybe i'm an idiot
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Woobowiz

winber1 wrote:

i still use aero.

which assumes i know what aero is, who knows maybe i'm an idiot
Basically, Aero == Transparent windows and stuff, etc, can be disabled by using Windows Basic themes
Jenny
Who's Cookiezi
Zare
Who are you
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Woobowiz

Jenny wrote:

Who's Cookiezi
Obama

On a separate note......the amount of times I'm playing right now is getting engraved on my wrist....

http://puu.sh/ak3Cf/61c34f1fa6.jpg

But the next school semester will start in August, so I might not be as active (I'll still try to squeeze in at least 2 hours of playing, but when school starts, 8 hours per day is no longer a possibility)
Vuelo Eluko
then august is when the road ends
XGeneral2000

GoldenWolf wrote:

Doesn't matter how strong you computer is, aero will cause some huge ass input lag (ok maybe not THAT big, but clearly a noticeable difference)
I can immediately tell the difference between aero on and off though
I tested with an online reflex tester, and it did seem like disabling aero reduced my reaction times by ~10 ms. But apparently aero disables during fullscreen applications (and I play osu! fullscreen), so maybe that's why I didn't notice any problems. Then again, I used to play on an HDTV with ungodly input lag and "didn't notice" (until I switched to a 2 ms monitor and felt like the Flash) so maybe I'm just bad.
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Woobowiz

Riince wrote:

then august is when the road ends
Not really, it just means I have to make every play session count and not firetruck around. If it's farming pp, I'll warm up and cycle through the necessary maps with 3-4 retries each. If it's training, I'll again cycle through the necessary maps and ramp up the difficulty and BPM.


XGeneral2000 wrote:

I tested with an online reflex tester, and it did seem like disabling aero reduced my reaction times by ~10 ms. But apparently aero disables during fullscreen applications (and I play osu! fullscreen), so maybe that's why I didn't notice any problems. Then again, I used to play on an HDTV with ungodly input lag and "didn't notice" (until I switched to a 2 ms monitor and felt like the Flash) so maybe I'm just bad.
Cursor tracking, that's the thing that takes the largest impact. It's REALLY noticeable on faster maps.
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Woobowiz
Sorry for double post~

Slight taste of what maps I'm training with now

Vuelo Eluko
hell yeah cheatreal
i expect you to start venturing into 490 territory by 2015
winber1
cloudsmasher pls
Vuelo Eluko

winber1 wrote:

cloudsmasher pls
best one
other than doppelganger
Dexus
Aero would be 16ms of additive latency on a 60hz monitor, 8ms on a 120hz, and 7ms on a 144hz.

When viewing your screen at vsync it's always 1 frame behind. In example if you're playing on 60hz you're 16ms behind always (don't use the UO to compensate this).

So with aero enabled you're 2 frames behind, with a 60hz refresh rate this could be 32ms at minimum just from aero/graphics delay assuming your drivers are pushing single pre-rendered frames. Aero on a 144hz monitor would be about 15ms at minimum.

People obviously don't play with vsync so the numbers are more close to 4ms to 2ms frame latency, 60hz aero would have 18ms delay at minimum, and 144hz would have 9ms at minimum.

Windows handles audio buffers in 10ms intervals so in theory playing on a 144hz monitor with aero on wouldn't be detrimental to the gameplay as long as you're pushing 500fps to 1000fps (anything more than that is really a waste).

Fun bonus fact: Playing on a laptop screen even without aero on would be upwards of 25ms+ display latency so try to get a cheap monitor with a low response time to plug into.
Skiddly
Woobowiz, after reading this I decided to start playing osu! again 20 days ago. you have really inspired me to keep playing, thankyou for that. I think I am going to make my own type of diary-based thingy, so that I can track my progress too! I really love this blog-type progress...
GoldenWolf

Woobowiz wrote:

#2 Waifu
Who's the #1 one
I am very very jealous
Vuelo Eluko

GoldenWolf wrote:

Woobowiz wrote:

#2 Waifu
Who's the #1 one
I am very very jealous
im pretty sure he mentioned it was jesse earlier in the thread
cant disagree :oops:
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