If it's pp farming then surely you could replicate these scores within a couple of retries then?KevEz wrote:
Not that i don't support you or anything (i don't considering all im seeing is PP farming) but this thread is full of shit.
yea, i canchainpullz wrote:
If it's pp farming then surely you could replicate these scores within a couple of retries then?KevEz wrote:
Not that i don't support you or anything (i don't considering all im seeing is PP farming) but this thread is full of shit.
You're out of my league winber ;w;winber1 wrote:
yea, i can
huehuehue
Could a guy with 10pp DT Koigokoro? Not very good logic. It's a valid criticism the Woobowiz has been playing for pp rather than for skill.chainpullz wrote:
If it's pp farming then surely you could replicate these scores within a couple of retries then?KevEz wrote:
Not that i don't support you or anything (i don't considering all im seeing is PP farming) but this thread is full of shit.
I think his point was that one really doesn't have the right to call a map a "farm" map or an "easy" map if they can't farm it themselves.B1rd wrote:
Could a guy with 10pp DT Koigokoro? Not very good logic.
I think it is not necessary to be able to farm a map to call it farmable - the assumption that a map is a "farm/easy" map can be based on other players' experience/pp gain with that map, or on its relative difficulty to pp ratio.Woobowiz wrote:
I think his point was that one really doesn't have the right to call a map a "farm" map or an "easy" map if they can't farm it themselves.B1rd wrote:
Could a guy with 10pp DT Koigokoro? Not very good logic.
Oh shoot, a better player has an easier time at a map than you do? I wonder why?Woobowiz wrote:
I think his point was that one really doesn't have the right to call a map a "farm" map or an "easy" map if they can't farm it themselves.B1rd wrote:
Could a guy with 10pp DT Koigokoro? Not very good logic.
But then that logic would then crumble by the fact that someone better than me can make the same claim, then I'd be in deep shit.
You seem to have had a pretty massive change in philosophy and attitude in general towards DT and farm maps since you made this thread.chainpullz wrote:
Oh shoot, a better player has an easier time at a map than you do? I wonder why?
Also, you can't hit rank 1 simply by pp farming. You'd be hard pressed to call anyone in the top 5 a pp farmer even. The thing is, if a map is farmable then there's no reason for the top players to not all put it at the top of their to-do list if they care about being rank 1. I know there are a lot of players around the top who might not care, but there's enough that do to prevent you from hitting rank 1 from farm maps alone. Refusing to play a single "farm map" is like playing blue control without Jace and preordain.
You'll hit the same walls just like anyone else if you choose the route of "farm maps." Woobowiz isn't bragging that hes hot shit because hes rank 1337 or w/e. If he was then you would potentially have grounds to criticize. It's undeniable that if you want to be #1 you will have to be capable of fc'ing the "farm maps." Why is it so bad to get that out of the way from the start and then work on polishing afterwards?
If you want to bitch about some maps giving too much pp for what you believe they are worth, go bitch at tom instead.
chainpullz wrote:
If your top scores are DT scores on MLP maps, do you ever stop to hate yourself? I guess the same could be asked about maps like Koigokoro that seem to be absurdly overweighted. Is the pp worth selling your soul to the devil?
Didn't you say something before though about not playing no-mod because it had a bad effort to pp ratio? It sort of seems like you're farming simply because you only play DT and nothing else. Unless you really don't care about other skills and just want to be good at DT?Woobowiz wrote:
I can't brag when there's tons of people better than me! Otherwise I'd just look like a massive tool. I'd rather be seen as a massive attention whore than some sort of bragger.
I try to make it clear that I try not to pp-farm (disregarding daidai genome and koigokoro) and actually try to run plays that not a lot of people can do. Like Winter Love, E.T., and Kimi no Gin no Niwa
Fast fingers=ppchainpullz wrote:
Oh I definitely still think the 30 second MLP maps are shameful. There's like nothing to learn from them and they are pretty much played solely for the pp. I only brought up koigokoro as a potential discussion branching point having no personal experience with the map myself. I still think the 180-200 bpm early DT maps are pretty stupid because pretty much any equivalent star difficulty nomod map with same bpm is significantly more difficult and rewards less pp. The faster DT maps at least require you to have a skill beyond those developed in nomod maps.
Everyone except rrtyui fits the description, they go out of their way to get the highest pp:effort ratio possible. once one person finds some map thats overrated and way too easy for what it gives, the others follow for that reason.chainpullz wrote:
You'd be hard pressed to call anyone in the top 5 a pp farmer even.
have fun playing game.Riince wrote:
Everyone except rrtyuichainpullz wrote:
You'd be hard pressed to call anyone in the top 5 a pp farmer even.
170k playcount isn't funDeathripi wrote:
have fun playing game.
Because that's what you have to do to maintain your rank? I think you are completely overlooking all the maps they play that aren't "farm maps." Unless we use an extremely loose definition of "farm map," the argument goes like this: Assume all of the top 5 ranked players are pp farmers. The skill level of the top 5 players is close within reason. If one player finds a farm map, the other 4 will be skilled enough to play it as well and will go play it themselves. Each player is awarded a similar amount of pp differing based on accuracy. We expect to observe that 1) The highest pp player is no more than a few hundred pp above the lowest pp player (for having higher overall accuracy and 2) there is some correlation between ranking and accuracy. If you look at the top 5 ranked players you'll see neither of these thus our assumption must be off.Riince wrote:
Everyone except rrtyui fits the description, they go out of their way to get the highest pp:effort ratio possible. once one person finds some map thats overrated and way too easy for what it gives, the others follow for that reason.chainpullz wrote:
You'd be hard pressed to call anyone in the top 5 a pp farmer even.
You could have fun playing that much.[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
170k playcount isn't fun
yes.winber1 wrote:
Insane wall of Logic
therefore, 2+2=5 QED
you bring up a valid pointxasuma wrote:
lol
Woobowiz wrote:
Jesus fuck you're grasping at straws to make me look bad, just go back to the jelly dish you crawled out of.
Woobowiz wrote:
I already cry wth OD 8 + DT...... I honestly don't know how HR players do it.
I can't fathom how you can contradict yourself this much.Woobowiz wrote:
Hidden is weird as fk for me, definitely an acquired skill.
You seem to be bad at streaming, which is normal, so go stream https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... ring#gid=0Zunv wrote:
Saw this thread so i thought why not also do a video. Maybe someone can tell me something of how to improve or stuff like that
I am playing since about 3 month now.
I looked for a (at least for me) hard map to pass. The video shows my first pass ever on it.
My setting for someone interested:
Tablet player (full are) with full screen 1920x1080 gameplay
I didn't, you just can't read. :^)Kip wrote:
I can't fathom how you can contradict yourself this much.
"does thou" *cringe*CABERMAN wrote:
Also i see u only play dt! does thou ever play no mod on low ar maps?
why wooby is so kawaiiKaienyuu wrote:
What is this thread about again?
why cookies are delicious and nutritiousKaienyuu wrote:
What is this thread about again?
Claiming to learn the game properly.Kaienyuu wrote:
What is this thread about again?
bitch please you are the kawaiiestwinber1 wrote:
why wooby is so kawaii