20:08 Akali: hi
20:08 kriers: hi
20:09 Akali: got few minutes later? when you are done with Chi Chi
20:09 Akali: ;w;
20:10 kriers: no, I have to stay like this forever
20:10 kriers: it's the only way my avatar matches the background
20:10 kriers: totemo important
20:11 Akali: とても
20:11 Akali: ?
20:11 kriers: what is that moonspeak
20:11 Akali: idk
20:12 Akali: I google totemo
20:12 Akali: googled
20:12 *Akali is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/408065 Demetori - Youkai no Yama ~ Mysterious Mountain]
20:12 Akali: I remapped this songg
20:13 kriers: hmm
20:13 kriers: +6 or 7
20:13 Akali: ok
20:13 kriers: ok 10
20:14 Akali: really
20:14 Akali: I must have something local really bad
20:14 Akali: or idk, I do something wrong
20:19 kriers: k so +5 overall? eh
20:19 kriers: several timing sections?
20:19 Akali: hmm
20:19 Akali: only for ending
20:20 Akali: Azer says sliders are too curvy
20:20 kriers: I'll point out things I find
20:20 Akali: apparently current meta doesn't really allow that or something .-.
20:20 kriers: 00:05:288 (1) - I hate this lol
20:21 kriers: It sounds god damn awful with my hitsounds
20:21 Akali: sec
20:21 kriers: it could be ignored completely imo
20:21 Akali: 1/4 slider?
20:22 kriers: the start is a bit poor, I think
20:22 kriers: 00:04:234 (1,2,3,4) - it's fine, but maybe a bit early?
20:23 kriers: usually when you start songs that initially have a slow buildup, even if occationally there are intense drums, it could certainly match the buildup more
20:23 Akali: oh I get what you mean
20:23 Akali: hm ok idk what i do about it it's pretty standing out drumroll imo
20:24 kriers: it's fine to map the stream, but the having to change combo colour for readability that soon eh
20:24 Akali: maybe bonkers slider
20:24 kriers: well you know how I hate extended sliders
00:20:531 (1,2) -
20:24 kriers: but I honestly thing you could add a note between 2 sliders
20:24 kriers: instead of having the first one 3/4
20:25 kriers: think*
20:25 Akali: second
20:25 Akali: hm ye it's ok
20:25 Akali: there are 3 sounds actually
20:25 kriers: that would be the slider end, note, slider start
20:26 kriers: if you want to cover them
20:26 Akali: well ye
20:26 kriers: 00:24:423 (1) - if you compare the previous part to this
20:26 kriers: although being technically not an anti-jump
20:27 kriers: I think most players would be totally okay with a little more gap
20:27 kriers: it gets cramped up so soon after the spacing increase at 00:23:612 (2,3) -
20:27 Akali: makes sense
20:28 kriers: I like a lot of stuff in this map but I'm just gonna point fingers on what I don't like
20:28 kriers: 00:42:261 (3,4,5) - I think you agree with me if I say this was awkward flow
20:29 Akali: hm would it be ok
20:29 Akali: if I just unstacked it?
20:29 kriers: it's totally okay by all means, but I feel the slider isn't flower well with the last note
20:29 kriers: and ye the stacks are pretty hard to make correctly
20:29 Akali: you mean
20:29 Akali: 00:42:747 (1) -
20:29 Akali: slider?
20:29 kriers: in my little experience I would always get slapped for stacking too much
20:30 Akali: ok
20:30 kriers: say
20:30 kriers: you would make the notes do a triangle rotation
20:30 kriers: and the slider would then follow up as a part of the rotation
20:30 Akali: (also pls savelog and post in thread ty
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20:31 Akali: ok
20:31 kriers: instead of somehow cutting that flow completely by going the opposite direction, into a slider that cuts that cursor movement by going against the flow
20:31 kriers: if I'm making any sense
20:31 Akali: wait im lost in map lol
20:32 Akali: ok
20:32 Akali: ye makes sense
20:32 Akali: I think I will make that stack into a slider
20:32 kriers: 00:58:801 (3) - too bad about the drums being ignored here, I guess
20:32 kriers: tick rate 2?
20:33 kriers: 01:01:396 (3) - same goes for this one
20:33 Akali: hm focused on guitar
20:33 Akali: ok
20:34 kriers: 01:20:369 (1) - somehow I feel this slider should be going the other direction
20:34 kriers: it's just the feel I get, when I continue on with the next triple
20:35 kriers: which is in fact the first spaced triple introduced
20:35 kriers: so basically any player will the have to deal with a difficult jump and having to adapt to new spacicng
20:35 kriers: well there is one before, scratch that
20:35 Akali: rip croissants
20:36 Akali: you can keep going brb 5 min
20:36 kriers: k
20:37 kriers: 01:32:045 (1,2,3,4) - feels a bit anti-climatic
20:37 kriers: 01:32:531 (2,4) - I'd rather see these notes giving some spacing. It would be awesome to play them in a way that felt like you had to drop you cursor upon both sliders
20:38 kriers: I think the intensity of the song justifies that extra spacing
20:41 kriers: 02:28:315 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - sneaky overmapping that works anyway
20:42 Akali: cool idea
20:42 Akali: ye I know it's overmapped
20:42 Akali: kinda
20:43 Akali: but barely
20:43 Akali: I think there is guitar ghost note
20:43 Akali: or not
20:43 kriers: 03:07:558 (5,6,7) - eep hard
20:43 Akali: but mah symmetry
20:44 kriers: symmetry is hard
20:44 Akali: ok can put stuff closer together
20:45 kriers: 03:51:504 (1) - the placement of this slider could be lower so it would actually continue the direction those 2 green sliders are forcing the cursor
20:46 kriers: I am not a fan of flow that breaks like waves, but that's just my taste
20:46 Akali: I have different colours qq
20:46 kriers: 03:56:693 (1,1) - I found this to be confusing as hell
20:46 Akali: ok 1/4 sliders
20:47 Akali: combo-colours?
20:47 Akali: or just sole existence of these circles
20:47 kriers: ye well
20:47 kriers: based on what you know from playing the map itself
20:48 kriers: say we don't know the song (??? impossible right?) the basic assumption is to play it as 1/2
20:48 kriers: and the fact the combo colours are different is actually adding to the confusion for me anyway
20:48 Akali: ok
20:49 Akali: ye it looks kinda stupid
20:50 kriers: and this 04:06:423 (1,1,1) - later on (it's fine btw) is just INCONSISTENT with new combo colours and the 1/2 rule I assumed was there
20:50 kriers: ok this is nonsense
20:50 kriers: ok here comes the bit I cringed at
20:50 kriers: 04:09:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
20:51 kriers: 04:09:666 (3,4) - increased spacing after a spaced triple
20:51 kriers: but the issue is 04:10:315 (1) - here really
20:52 kriers: I just don't like how it cuts
20:52 kriers: and I failed royally
20:52 Akali: rip mouse users
20:52 kriers: rip shitty players
20:52 Akali: sometimes happens
20:52 Akali: I get bored
20:52 kriers: 04:20:207 (1,2,3,1) - dude
20:52 kriers: airman all over again
20:53 kriers: you sure love to kick me in the butt with them jumps
20:53 Akali: it's last chorus
20:53 Akali: idk I like them
20:53 kriers: 04:21:180 (3,1) - and technically these 2 notes feel better if you have them in same combo
20:53 kriers: just look at that spacing
20:54 Akali: glorious
20:56 Akali: ok will redo that whole part
20:58 kriers: 05:00:910 (1,1,1,1) - ;____; this is poinsettia all over again
20:58 Akali: I need this
20:58 Akali: so it's over 5 minutes
20:58 Akali: and spinners suck
20:59 kriers: do sliders
20:59 kriers: just imagine the leaderboards
21:00 kriers: a 100 that late on is rage inducing af
21:00 Akali: better than a spinner requiring you to do 400+ for a minute
21:00 Akali: okkkk