Talent helps you to improve faster. Some of people has better feeling of rhytm, some of them has it worse. If I'd play on a piano for my whole life, will I be better than Chopin or someone?
You won't know until you try.Husky wrote:
If I'd play on a piano for my whole life, will I be better than Chopin or someone?
I Feel You Bro.takaharrue wrote:
I guess some people must have the guide to play osu! coded in their genes somewhere. Huh, that's really funny. I guess I should just kill myself over and over until' I get that gene.
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where did you get this?takaharrue wrote:
Oh no worries, guys. I found it, I guess there is a gene that codes for Osu! skill after all. Wow, that's funny. I should submit my findings to a scientific journal.
probably mad it himself[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
where did you get this?takaharrue wrote:
Oh no worries, guys. I found it, I guess there is a gene that codes for Osu! skill after all. Wow, that's funny. I should submit my findings to a scientific journal.
Aqo wrote:
natural talent is an excuse by people who refuse to hard work
<Removed a bit here about my own play.>takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
Just scrolling through the performance charts I can see plenty of people that are rank 13k~ with 5-6k playcount.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
^ THEY LIED.Rewben2 wrote:
Just scrolling through the performance charts I can see plenty of people that are rank 13k~ with 5-6k playcount.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
Now that's pretentious.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
Jordan wrote:
No it won't. It's like saying you'll run as fast as Usain Bolt if you try hard enough. You just won't, because he's got perfect genetics and you don't. Same goes for osu!, there are people who get insanely good at the game incredibly fast and others take up to 2 years to be able to even fc nomod insanes (me lol) playing for the same amount of time as said talented person. tl;dr Hard work beats talent but only if talent but only if talent doesn't work hard. You think Cookiezi really tried THIS hard to be good? He probably was at my current skill level in 5 or 6 months of playing. And I play since more than 3 years.
Aqo wrote:
natural talent is an excuse by people who refuse to hard work
What.BRBP wrote:
you're proud of your rank/playcount ratio. You should be.
thread...takaharrue wrote:
Oh no worries, guys. I found it, I guess there is a gene that codes for Osu! skill after all. Wow, that's funny. I should submit my findings to a scientific journal.
Rewben2 wrote:
Just scrolling through the performance charts I can see plenty of people that are rank 13k~ with 5-6k playcount.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
Ignorant, I was your rank with less than half of your playcount, a little less than 5k and osu is my first rhythm game.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
I was expecting to see a better rank/PC out of someone with the guts to say that butSure let's just accept that. But guess what! Nobody cares how talented you are. People only care how good you are, regardless of play count.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
So you're claiming genetics don't exist? Everybody is a machine made in the same way?GoldenWolf wrote:
Jordan wrote:
No it won't. It's like saying you'll run as fast as Usain Bolt if you try hard enough. You just won't, because he's got perfect genetics and you don't. Same goes for osu!, there are people who get insanely good at the game incredibly fast and others take up to 2 years to be able to even fc nomod insanes (me lol) playing for the same amount of time as said talented person. tl;dr Hard work beats talent but only if talent but only if talent doesn't work hard. You think Cookiezi really tried THIS hard to be good? He probably was at my current skill level in 5 or 6 months of playing. And I play since more than 3 years.Aqo wrote:
natural talent is an excuse by people who refuse to hard work
So you're claiming genetics don't exist? Everybody is a machine made in the same way?Aqo wrote:
natural talent is an excuse by people who refuse to hard work
Nobody will be able to. Genetics will determine who will learn how to do it with less effort than others.Clappy wrote:
So you're claiming genetics don't exist? Everybody is a machine made in the same way?Aqo wrote:
natural talent is an excuse by people who refuse to hard work
Genetics will only get so far in aiding your climb to the top, if we pull 100 people off of the streets what are the chances one of them can maintain a 220bpm single tap without ever playing osu ?
I'm sorry, but genetics really can not determine if you can 220 single tap because single tapping is more than just learning how to do it, you physically can not and I repeat can not sustain such a high bpm single tap because, whatever hand you choose to tap with does not have the muscle nor stamina to sustain such high energy movement. You will need to build muscle in that hand and that will only come with practice, regardless of genetics.Jordan wrote:
Nobody will be able to. Genetics will determine who will learn how to do it with less effort than others.Clappy wrote:
So you're claiming genetics don't exist? Everybody is a machine made in the same way?
Genetics will only get so far in aiding your climb to the top, if we pull 100 people off of the streets what are the chances one of them can maintain a 220bpm single tap without ever playing osu ?
uhh, just so people don't get the wrong idea...Clappy wrote:
You will need to build muscle in that hand and that will only come with practice, regardless of genetics.
And suddenly genes don't affect your physical capabilities at all?? I don't get why it's such a hard concept that genetics affect EVERYTHING YOU EVER DO because everyone has different genes. It's one thing to argue that genetics have a minimal impact (which btw I don't agree with at all), but I don't see how people can seriously argue that genes have no effect on ability to progress in osu!.Clappy wrote:
I'm sorry, but genetics really can not determine if you can 220 single tap because single tapping is more than just learning how to do it, you physically can not and I repeat can not sustain such a high bpm single tap because, whatever hand you choose to tap with does not have the muscle nor stamina to sustain such high energy movement. You will need to build muscle in that hand and that will only come with practice, regardless of genetics.Jordan wrote:
Nobody will be able to. Genetics will determine who will learn how to do it with less effort than others.
People with less retries just have a different take at getting better. I came from a game where you had to retry 100s of times over and over before you got a good "time" in the game. So, retrying over and over is what I'm used to. That explains my high play count. Also, I'm currently playing Osu! with a rubber dome keyboard and a 120 fps laptop, and that's not good considering hardware is one of the most important things in Osu!, so I'm basically kind of crippled.nooblet wrote:
I was expecting to see a better rank/PC out of someone with the guts to say that butSure let's just accept that. But guess what! Nobody cares how talented you are. People only care how good you are, regardless of play count.takaharrue wrote:
I can guarantee you there is not a single person on Osu! with half my play count and half my rank that is better than me that isn't a 2nd account or someone who's had a lot of experience in other rhythm games.
So what if it took Uan 200k plays to get to rank 1XX (Not sure what his peak was, he's dropping it apparently)? Does it mean he's bad or worse than other people his rank with less PC? I highly doubt it. Heck, just check the ranking list, there are people in the top 50 that have a fraction of rrtyui's plays, does that mean they're "more talented" than him? Even if they are, again - nobody cares. Better is better, nobody cares how "talented" you think you are.
And suddenly genes don't affect your physical capabilities at all?? I don't get why it's such a hard concept that genetics affect EVERYTHING YOU EVER DO because everyone has different genes. It's one thing to argue that genetics have a minimal impact (which btw I don't agree with at all), but I don't see how people can seriously argue that genes have no effect on ability to progress in osu!.[/quote]pooptartsonas wrote:
I'm sorry, but genetics really can not determine if you can 220 single tap because single tapping is more than just learning how to do it, you physically can not and I repeat can not sustain such a high bpm single tap because, whatever hand you choose to tap with does not have the muscle nor stamina to sustain such high energy movement. You will need to build muscle in that hand and that will only come with practice, regardless of genetics.Clappy wrote:
Nobody will be able to. Genetics will determine who will learn how to do it with less effort than others.
Plz. I play on a laptop with the laptop keyboard.takaharrue wrote:
People with less retries just have a different take at getting better. I came from a game where you had to retry 100s of times over and over before you got a good "time" in the game. So, retrying over and over is what I'm used to. That explains my high play count. Also, I'm currently playing Osu! with a rubber dome keyboard and a 120 fps laptop, and that's not good considering hardware is one of the most important things in Osu!, so I'm basically kind of crippled.
Also, just stop saying there is such a thing as talent. What kind of gene is gonna make you better at Osu!? Strong fingers? Anything that the average person can't improve on their own without having the genetics for? No. No one is just born with the ability to be good at Osu!. Do you know how ridiculous people sound when they say stuff like that? Even if you are "talented" anyone can catch up to your skill and then you will be on the same level, regardless that the other person is considered "talented". There's no one that will always be better than you no matter how hard you try, and no one that will be better than you with the same amount of total effort. I feel like people are just giving up on themselves when they say "oh ill never be gud cuz ppl r born with the genetics to play osu!! and i wasnt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea, I think what I should have said was some people might be better than me with less effort because it's easier to play with a good keyboard/computer and I didn't get a tablet until a month 1/2 ago, i've really only been active for like 2 months, the other 5 months were me playing like barely once a week.nooblet wrote:
Plz. I play on a laptop with the laptop keyboard.takaharrue wrote:
People with less retries just have a different take at getting better. I came from a game where you had to retry 100s of times over and over before you got a good "time" in the game. So, retrying over and over is what I'm used to. That explains my high play count. Also, I'm currently playing Osu! with a rubber dome keyboard and a 120 fps laptop, and that's not good considering hardware is one of the most important things in Osu!, so I'm basically kind of crippled.
Also, just stop saying there is such a thing as talent. What kind of gene is gonna make you better at Osu!? Strong fingers? Anything that the average person can't improve on their own without having the genetics for? No. No one is just born with the ability to be good at Osu!. Do you know how ridiculous people sound when they say stuff like that? Even if you are "talented" anyone can catch up to your skill and then you will be on the same level, regardless that the other person is considered "talented". There's no one that will always be better than you no matter how hard you try, and no one that will be better than you with the same amount of total effort. I feel like people are just giving up on themselves when they say "oh ill never be gud cuz ppl r born with the genetics to play osu!! and i wasnt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although I do agree about the talent stuff. People, just play the game, ffs stop making excuses for yourselves. I really doubt anyone can not be good if they seriously had something like 200k play count without mindlessly spamming retries. Sure, some may need more/less, but it won't change the fact that the ONLY way to get better is to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME MORE. Who cares if it takes a few thousand more tries? If you're not improving enough to make yourself happy then just quit.
I can't even tell if you're serious anymore. I play with a laptop keyboard. And what does a tablet have to do with anything.takaharrue wrote:
Yea, I think what I should have said was some people might be better than me with less effort because it's easier to play with a good keyboard/computer and I didn't get a tablet until a month 1/2 ago, i've really only been active for like 2 months, the other 5 months were me playing like barely once a week.