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Good beatmaps for grinding out PP?

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NotCookie_old

HamsterCurry wrote:

But if we go by your logic, then the next logical step would be to completely disregard all the lower weighted scores to remove "farming" which is something I think no one would agree with.
That is what I believe would be best, yes. Smaller sample of performances so that it encourages players to go for challenging scores, not 'free' pp. Players who are at the highest level wouldn't really be negatively affected by this, because they already try to get a new best score all the time.

However, I do acknowledge that this wouldn't work for all players/ranks, so I agree it's not something that could be implemented.

EDIT: I just read your edit. No, my entire argument has been "farming ppv2 is possible", because certain people seemed pretty adamant about saying the contrary. It's the act of doing what you've shown in your example, however it also has to have a mentality behind it. The mentality of "I'll try this song a few times to see if I can FC, otherwise I'm going to go find another song", and repeat this process until they find it is too hard to get pp. They aren't looking for a challenge, they're looking for an easy FC, thus easy pp.

While I think that ppv2 could be better, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong about the ability to farm. All I've been trying to say, is that "farming ppv2 is possible".
Hamster Only
I edited my post again incase you missed it.

However, I do acknowledge that this wouldn't work for all players/ranks, so I agree it's not something that could be implemented.
Yes because of the sheer number of people who play this game, the more scores that are taken into consideration in determining the total PP, the more accurate the ranking system is.
TheVileOne
At least at my terrible rank, I could farm my maps to get pp if I really wanted to. The reality of the matter is that at least for most people who don't try to SS/ FC everything as soon as they play it, there will be songs in which you are technically capable of FCing, but haven't put the time into grinding the map until you get a better score. I have a LOT of maps that are more difficult than the maps in my top performances that aren't in my top performance because I haven't played them enough to get rid of pesky misses.

I think it would help one become more consistent by grinding out a map until it is perfect and that will allow them to expand to more difficult maps. I advocate caution when grinding/farming old maps. If you fill up your well of potential pp, and don't try to conquer harder maps before that happens, you will likely hit a wall in which you can't get any more pp until you tackle songs that are more difficult than what you've been playing (your comfort zone).

It's better to challenge your skill level slightly. Find maps in which you are just barely unable to complete. Grind them out until you can beat them regardless of how much pp they are worth. (Remember that your top performance may not be the hardest map you have the potential to complete). This is how you improve.

I would also try to avoid maps that are easier that give more pp. You aren't really getting anymore pp in the long run. Tom will eventually tweak the system so that the maps will be worth less pp and then you will end up losing ranks because of it.

I just want to reiterate that seeing what people just above your rank have got in their performance list is really helpful. They probably didn't get to their rank in the same way that you did and so their top performances will likely contain songs that you don't have in your performance list that are worth similar pp amounts to maps in your list. Unless you have completely filled up your well, they will likely still give you something.
Vuelo Eluko

TheVileOne wrote:

It's better to challenge your skill level slightly. Find maps in which you are just barely unable to complete. Grind them out until you can beat them regardless of how much pp they are worth. (Remember that your top performance may not be the hardest map you have the potential to complete). This is how you improve.
this is exactly what ive been doing for my past 2000 or so plays [my first 5000 dont even feel like they counted since i was basically just nfing big black and stuff i couldnt do]

tbh the only time i ever gain pp is when i play multiplayer haha. that's the only time im not forcing myself to struggle with DT or something.

altho thanks to multi, i discovered handlebars is worth some damn nice PP, and it was nice to get that anime opening off my top rank..
i wouldnt call multiplayer farming ever, even if the map is a little below my skill level, because, frankly, there's no retries.
DENKOUSEKKA
Best beatmap for getting good pp
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/21581
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SammySama

iWhorse wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/205267?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/46186
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/103221?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/203993?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/155404?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/127712
DT all of above
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/53857



pretty much all of ztrot's maps+dt give more PP than they're worth as well http://osu.ppy.sh/s/143823 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/72324

if none of those work, go do what bauxe said
One or two of those beatmaps are too fast for me, but they're definitely giving me chunks of PP. I'm working on the MLP one right now, gave me 20PP or more just for FCing at 95%. If I get 98% I'm sure I'll break 5k.
scottyyy
Yeah thanks to this thread I'm now way more over-ranked than I already was. >_>
hinamizawan
Horo
itt: people discuss "farming" 90 pp yet again

please just play the game and dont use big words like "star rating" when you can get points by literally playing ANY map
literally any map

its a waste of your time to even think about specifics like 3 pages of this thread when you have fucking 90 pp top

get better accuracy and play more maps and you will improve, as will your points

edit: dear god please Bassist Vinyl, please, please stop giving advice your top scores are Cs on random shit please stop talking like you know what you are talking about, its literally painful to read

im not even flaming its just that you are everywhere trying to give advanced advice when you have no idea what you are talking about
Rewben2

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

let me put it another way, if songs that aren't challenging to you are giving you pp, your rank isn't accurately representing your skill level yet. the way ppv2 weights score supports this.
i wouldnt consider it farming in that point, more of just naturally ranking up.
it is also a matter of consistency, your best play is not how 'good' you are necessarily
It would be true that the system is unfarmable if every song was accurate with its pp output relative to its difficulty. While the current system is pretty accurate, there are definitely some songs that are easier than others yet give more pp. What does this mean? If you play the correct maps you can get pp that you don't really deserve and easily become overranked. There are some songs that I don't find challenging that give me a lot of pp (like Diamond) yet it doesn't mean I'm not overranked.

Horo wrote:

please just play the game and dont use big words like "star rating" when you can get points by literally playing ANY map
literally any map
Well of course you get pp from playing ANY map, but after a while maps won't contribute towards your total pp at all regardless of how well you play them, they will just be weighted to 0%.
dennischan
Well there are lots of maps suitable for grinding out pp
such as Recommended Spell (Spell) or The Pretender (Pretender)
If you're not advanced enough to play those maps, you can just go play any random normal with DT
tons of pp come in
Vuelo Eluko
edit: nevermind, what i said was out of line. i can't see horo's posts anymore [foe system op] so there's no need for this post
sorry if anyone saw this before it was edited
i shouldnt let immature people get to me
Soarezi
horo does have a point, you really shouldn't think about pp so early, it's completely pointless.
iWhorse

Havikz wrote:

iWhorse wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/205267?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/46186
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/103221?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/203993?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/155404?m=0
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/127712
DT all of above
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/53857



pretty much all of ztrot's maps+dt give more PP than they're worth as well http://osu.ppy.sh/s/143823 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/72324

if none of those work, go do what bauxe said
One or two of those beatmaps are too fast for me, but they're definitely giving me chunks of PP. I'm working on the MLP one right now, gave me 20PP or more just for FCing at 95%. If I get 98% I'm sure I'll break 5k.
sweet, nice to hear

i got more if you need any, just didn't feel like copying them all in here at once lol
xVaati
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Risa
Rip. Just rip
SmallPox

SammySama wrote:

I've been stuck around the 5.5k range for a while, most my top scores are in the accuracy range that I don't want to bother improving (like 99.80% or 99.70% so there's really no point murdering myself trying to get 100%). Maps either give zero PP for a high acc FC or they completely kick my arse like jippusu - Heisei Kataku Rhythm. Anybody know of some good maps around my range that I can grind out a good score and squeeze some PP out? Am I reaching the point where I need to learn how to use mods? :?
OMG YOU LIKE KILL LA KILL FINALLY
Bara-
The thread is 2 years old >__>
vsprite
play more
Mirvein

vsprite wrote:

play more
nice advice, but still offtopic
Jellyfish McGub
playing more is never offtopic


anyways who has some good pp grinding maps
-Makishima S-
anyways who has some good pp grinding maps
Grinding PP Games

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/421532
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/748656
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/260489
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/438328
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/437671
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/154165
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/543496&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/695636

Grind a lot and you will get your pepe 8-)
Beatmaps sponsored by "I hate TV-Size so i grind gimmick & marathons" 8-)
Kora_old_1
Alright, here are some maps I fcd on like the first or second try. They are between 150 and 200 pp:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/359869?m=0 201 pp 99.31% DT
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/490154?m=0 187pp 99.83% DT
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/637549?m=0 189pp 100% HDDT
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/135200?m=0 158pp 98.74% DT
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/577427?m=0 158pp 98.74% DT


I have alot more, just ask if you want more :)
Niacora
This topic looks so dead.
Starrodkirby86
At least alternatives exist, so there's plenty of opportunities in that relentless quest for PP. :P
Hiro-Senpai

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

At least alternatives exist, so there's plenty of opportunities in that relentless quest for PP. :P
Give this guy 727 pp
And THIS NECROPOST XDD JESUS
Nebzzz

Horo wrote:

itt: people discuss "farming" 90 pp yet again

please just play the game and dont use big words like "star rating" when you can get points by literally playing ANY map
literally any map

its a waste of your time to even think about specifics like 3 pages of this thread when you have fucking 90 pp top

get better accuracy and play more maps and you will improve, as will your points

edit: dear god please Bassist Vinyl, please, please stop giving advice your top scores are Cs on random shit please stop talking like you know what you are talking about, its literally painful to read

im not even flaming its just that you are everywhere trying to give advanced advice when you have no idea what you are talking about
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people just wanna get lots of points thats the premise of most games
B1rd

Horo wrote:

edit: dear god please Bassist Vinyl, please, please stop giving advice your top scores are Cs on random shit please stop talking like you know what you are talking about, its literally painful to read

im not even flaming its just that you are everywhere trying to give advanced advice when you have no idea what you are talking about
Exceed-s
Still stuck at 500 pp >_<
RedONI
Okay, but just hear me out.

Play the game more
Artyadeu

Soarezi wrote:

You dont need to farm pp, i was sitting at 600+ for like 3 to 4 months, and in less than a month i've gained over 200 ranks. You really shouldn't care about pp, it comes naturally as you play, since you get better. There is no point to retry at that point, because the scores you get are worth next to nothing anyways.

is it just me or i got 50k ranks in 2 days just play maps randomly find pp maps sometime
- Zuramaru -

[SilverFighter] wrote:

is it just me or i got 50k ranks in 2 days just play maps randomly find pp maps sometime

Hidden got rebalanced and inactive users got removed from the leaderboards so some people gained a lot of ranks, some people lost some
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