Sounds like you a trying to blame a poorly configured and/or broken PC on a game. osu! performs better than it did in any previous year, performance wise.
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true fact, it runs on my old laptop that only have 800mzh, 16mb video and 512mb ram ... and it runs just a bit laggy.peppy wrote:
Sounds like you a trying to blame a poorly configured and/or broken PC on a game. osu! performs better than it did in any previous year, performance wise.
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weird, my mouse gets stuck to the right on spinners... why yes of course it does, i just updated my harddrive on my pc and everything. but whatever, used to be fun sorry about it guys :-)peppy wrote:
Sounds like you a trying to blame a poorly configured and/or broken PC on a game. osu! performs better than it did in any previous year, performance wise.
used to be fun for you
Soarezi
"just a bit laggy" 30fps? osu is barely and barely playable on 60 fps, even 100. Unless of course you are a massive casual playing 10 bpm songs and 1 note per minuteseicHmsc wrote:
true fact, it runs on my old laptop that only have 800mzh, 16mb video and 512mb ram ... and it runs just a bit laggy.peppy wrote:
Sounds like you a trying to blame a poorly configured and/or broken PC on a game. osu! performs better than it did in any previous year, performance wise.
Bye.
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did you know that 100fps is more than enough? and with the old laptop I got like 30 - 35fps which is still pretty good. Obviously I have something a lot better now, with unlimited fps I get almost 3000, but there is absolute no difference between 3000 and 100.Soarezi wrote:
"just a bit laggy" 30fps? osu is barely and barely playable on 60 fps, even 100. Unless of course you are a massive casual playing 10 bpm songs and 1 note per minuteseicHmsc wrote:
true fact, it runs on my old laptop that only have 800mzh, 16mb video and 512mb ram ... and it runs just a bit laggy.
If you don't find a game fun anymore, then don't plan.
You're not doing yourself any good by complaining on the forums
You're not doing yourself any good by complaining on the forums
More than 60 is not needed. Many displays can't even show more than that, so getting it is pointless. Also, the human eye is not able to tell that small of a difference above that. How smooth something looks is almost fully dependant on the display and the refresh rate. Movies are usually shot with 24 fps.Soarezi wrote:
"just a bit laggy" 30fps? osu is barely and barely playable on 60 fps, even 100. Unless of course you are a massive casual playing 10 bpm songs and 1 note per minuteseicHmsc wrote:
true fact, it runs on my old laptop that only have 800mzh, 16mb video and 512mb ram ... and it runs just a bit laggy.
If 60 fps is unplayable for you, the problem lies elsewhere.
Causes a higher input latency. And yes, it is noticeable.Legxis wrote:
More than 60 is not needed. Many displays can't even show more than that, so getting it is pointless. Also, the human eye is not able to tell that small of a difference above that. How smooth something looks is almost fully dependant on the display and the refresh rate. Movies are usually shot with 24 fps.
If 60 fps is unplayable for you, the problem lies elsewhere.
More than 60fps is not needed only to have more accurate graphics. Framerate also affects input latency/stability and audio latency/stability in this game.Legxis wrote:
More than 60 is not needed. Many displays can't even show more than that, so getting it is pointless. Also, the human eye is not able to tell that small of a difference above that. How smooth something looks is almost fully dependant on the display and the refresh rate. Movies are usually shot with 24 fps.
If 60 fps is unplayable for you, the problem lies elsewhere.
For example, with 60fps there are cases where you won't get a 300g judgment in osu!mania even if you press with perfect timing (since you can only press up to 16ms late the key, and the random latency caused by the low framerate plus other sources of latency can go higher than that; with Hard Rock, the latency caused by low framerate alone can be higher than the timing window of 11ms, and including other sources of latency it can be impossible even if you try to compensate by pressing early). The problem is also present in the other game modes where the maximum judgment is not as strict, specially in harder maps.
With 60fps, the cursor latency is also pretty noticeable even if you are used to a 60fps screen, if your GPU is buffering frames.
Also, people can easily notice the difference between 60fps, and say, 120fps; the thing is, most people have 60fps screens, so they are used to that.
Filmed Movies can use 24fps since the exposure time of the cameras is relatively high, generating motion blur (which eliminates the "jumping", but still makes it hard to pinpoint where things are; in movies you aren't usually focusing in things that move fast across the screen); motion blur can also be generated artificially. Animated movies usually have 24fps or less, and depending on the case, can be pretty noticeable.
Your computer must be trash to lag on osu!, it's not demanding at all. Additionally, as peppy said, the current osu! is less laggier than previous builds...
Please don't descend into a thread about how the human eye can't see more than 30 frames..
also my computer sucks and I can still run osu! fine, this is no-ones fault but your own.
also my computer sucks and I can still run osu! fine, this is no-ones fault but your own.
https://boallen.com/fps-compare.htmlPhilantropist wrote:
Please don't descend into a thread about how the human eye can't see more than 30 frames..
also my computer sucks and I can still run osu! fine, this is no-ones fault but your own.
:^)
Someone has to make a ABX test for this.Bauxe wrote:
https://boallen.com/fps-compare.htmlPhilantropist wrote:
Please don't descend into a thread about how the human eye can't see more than 30 frames..
also my computer sucks and I can still run osu! fine, this is no-ones fault but your own.
:^)
You need an ultra high end rig to play osu! with good fps, generating circles is super graphics intensive. Anything less than SLI 780ti and you shouldn't even try.
This game isn't written by a god. It has bugs and compatibility issues, just like any other software. I'd advise OP to make a thread in the tech subforum if he/she hasn't already.
Nope, you'd get a piece of junk for $300-400. If it wasn't using outdated or super low end parts, you'd have to get a free OS somehow, and need to know how to build it yourself.Dexus wrote:
$300-400 is plenty to get an up to date computer
You would want to spend $500 or more, to get a quality power supply and CPU. Once you've got a decent base machine you can upgrade later as the funds come available; get a dedicated GPU, an SSD (or HDD if you got an SSD first, not a bad idea), some more RAM etc.
I really wouldn't think something like this would be junk http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3min2 granted with this list you could use a cheaper gpu/cpu instead. This is just to show a higher end of a budget build.
I thought I edited that post to say within the $400 range, oh well.
Building a PC is like putting lego parts together. psu aren't really expensive (you don't need 1000w to run shit, it takes two 250w PSU to send a signal into space to a satellite and it in the long run wastes energy) Just look for 80+ bronze standard from a reliable company at a reasonable wattage/price. Also 8GB (2x4 for dual channel) is plenty anything more is a waste for a common user and less would be harmful in the long run (The RAM clock speed depends on what cpu you get because the memory controller can have a limit, AMD:1866, Intel: 1333/1600, CAS is pointless to debate about). As for a GPU a GTX 750 ti runs well at a low TDP. Best price per dollar performance gpu I've ever seen. AMD gpu are cheaper, I remember using a 7770 ghz edition and it was running the game just fine. Processors? Nothing really takes advantage of multi core threads. I believe osu! itself just runs on one thread, so a dual core cpu would be plenty unless you want to stream or something. Although a quad core cpu would be better in the long run since games on the consoles are using multi cores now (which is where pc games will most likely be heading). You can forget about overclocking too, it's pretty much pointless unless you're benchmarking, windows itself has a timer that doesn't really go that fast. HPET gets pretty unstable too. With timers and speed, the lower the more stable it is so you have to find a right balance in speed with everything.
I thought I edited that post to say within the $400 range, oh well.
Building a PC is like putting lego parts together. psu aren't really expensive (you don't need 1000w to run shit, it takes two 250w PSU to send a signal into space to a satellite and it in the long run wastes energy) Just look for 80+ bronze standard from a reliable company at a reasonable wattage/price. Also 8GB (2x4 for dual channel) is plenty anything more is a waste for a common user and less would be harmful in the long run (The RAM clock speed depends on what cpu you get because the memory controller can have a limit, AMD:1866, Intel: 1333/1600, CAS is pointless to debate about). As for a GPU a GTX 750 ti runs well at a low TDP. Best price per dollar performance gpu I've ever seen. AMD gpu are cheaper, I remember using a 7770 ghz edition and it was running the game just fine. Processors? Nothing really takes advantage of multi core threads. I believe osu! itself just runs on one thread, so a dual core cpu would be plenty unless you want to stream or something. Although a quad core cpu would be better in the long run since games on the consoles are using multi cores now (which is where pc games will most likely be heading). You can forget about overclocking too, it's pretty much pointless unless you're benchmarking, windows itself has a timer that doesn't really go that fast. HPET gets pretty unstable too. With timers and speed, the lower the more stable it is so you have to find a right balance in speed with everything.
a build like that could probably run osu! at 100fps+ easily, assuming you have those flashy graphic settings turned off missing a psu doe but a 450w lying around should be fineDexus wrote:
I really wouldn't think something like this would be junk http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3min2 granted with this list you could use a cheaper gpu/cpu instead. This is just to show a higher end of a budget build.
I thought I edited that post to say within the $400 range, oh well.
I believe it would run osu! in the 1000-2000fps range.
If you want to buy PC ONLY for osu!, you can as well use integrated into newest Intel I7/5/3 Core generation. External GPU is unnecessary.
What about the AMD Kaveri APU?
I almost built a pc specifically for osu! with one, but decided against it seeing as I have a perfectly capable pc as is
I almost built a pc specifically for osu! with one, but decided against it seeing as I have a perfectly capable pc as is
That PC is $535. You forgot an OS, which is at least another $100. So even if you can put one together yourself, that's a $600-700 (incl. shipping). You said $300-400.Dexus wrote:
I really wouldn't think something like this would be junk http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3min2 granted with this list you could use a cheaper gpu/cpu instead. This is just to show a higher end of a budget build.
I thought I edited that post to say within the $400 range, oh well.
Building a PC is like putting lego parts together. psu aren't really expensive (you don't need 1000w to run shit, it takes two 250w PSU to send a signal into space to a satellite and it in the long run wastes energy) Just look for 80+ bronze standard from a reliable company at a reasonable wattage/price. Also 8GB (2x4 for dual channel) is plenty anything more is a waste for a common user and less would be harmful in the long run (The RAM clock speed depends on what cpu you get because the memory controller can have a limit, AMD:1866, Intel: 1333/1600, CAS is pointless to debate about). As for a GPU a GTX 750 ti runs well at a low TDP. Best price per dollar performance gpu I've ever seen. AMD gpu are cheaper, I remember using a 7770 ghz edition and it was running the game just fine. Processors? Nothing really takes advantage of multi core threads. I believe osu! itself just runs on one thread, so a dual core cpu would be plenty unless you want to stream or something. Although a quad core cpu would be better in the long run since games on the consoles are using multi cores now (which is where pc games will most likely be heading). You can forget about overclocking too, it's pretty much pointless unless you're benchmarking, windows itself has a timer that doesn't really go that fast. HPET gets pretty unstable too. With timers and speed, the lower the more stable it is so you have to find a right balance in speed with everything.
If Osu! does run of one thread, getting something like an i3 would be better than an AMD CPU since they have better single core performance.
This. My $500 laptop with some ghetto i3 using integrated graphics doesn't ever fall below 60fps, and it's obviously not made for gaming. Building your own PC would cost less than this and get even better performance because you can optimise it for what you're going to use it for.Marcin wrote:
If you want to buy PC ONLY for osu!, you can as well use integrated into newest Intel I7/5/3 Core generation. External GPU is unnecessary.
Dexus's build is $530 and includes a $150 gpu, lol. I'm not sure how osu! would run on an fx series cpu without a dedicated graphics card though; there's no integrated graphics with that series of cpu's. I think an apu might be the best solution because a dedicated graphics card is not needed.
Ha.B1rd wrote:
You forgot an OS, which is at least another $100.
guys pls stop overusing the spoiler code
I play perfectly fine with the 120 fps cap, and I use a laptop.
granted with this list you could use a cheaper gpu/cpu instead. This is just to show a higher end of a budget build.Why buy an OS? *runs*
This would be closer to what I was talking about http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mxjg
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osu! is definitely playable at 60-100fps even at a high levelSoarezi wrote:
"just a bit laggy" 30fps? osu is barely and barely playable on 60 fps, even 100. Unless of course you are a massive casual playing 10 bpm songs and 1 note per minute
My ex could play decent at 20~40fps on her craptop.
defintely notSync wrote:
osu! is definitely playable at 60-100fps even at a high level
As an arguably high level player, 180 fps is the minimum I feel comfortable at, and under 120 is when my play starts to really suffer. Most computers from the last 5 years should be able to at least get that high.
Curious about something: Has anybody ever got less than 96.23 Unstable Rate in a map with more than 30 hitobjects with 60fps?
i used to use 60 fps now i use 120 and if i try unlimited i get lag spikes sometimes
Try borrowing a gaming mouse to see if your mouse is the cause, or look to see if anything got stuck in the optical sensor.Polymelia wrote:
weird, my mouse gets stuck to the right on spinners... why yes of course it does, i just updated my harddrive on my pc and everything. but whatever, used to be fun sorry about it guys :-)peppy wrote:
Sounds like you a trying to blame a poorly configured and/or broken PC on a game. osu! performs better than it did in any previous year, performance wise.