Hair wrote:

Well I said I would give it a shot

01:28:092 (429) - d To me, this doesn't fit, left this one alone.
02:45:315 (964,965) - Change both to d done
02:48:117 (986,987,988,989) - Speed change sounds a little strange this is intended
02:55:205 (1041,1042,1043) - Move 1 tick back, maybe at a d at 02:55:122 (1041) - This is also intended
07:03:996 (1385,1386,1387,1388,1389) - Speed change sounds a little strange same for this one

Your a great mapper btw o-o thanks

Hope this gets ranked, maybe if i am lucky you might have changed one of mah mods !

LunaticP wrote:

[Oni]

In terms of density I will call this an inner but not just an oni.... in gogotime those ddddddddd go non-stop which is over an oni Will think about changing this.

00:58:835 (237) - k done

01:01:307 (252,253) - kk I think to match what I was doing I would change 01:01:472 (254), but ddd is easier to transition with while keeping the same feeling.

01:03:450 (266) - d This is left as a k to match 01:06:088 (284).

01:40:207 (522) - K Doesn't fit since there isn't a snare here.

02:22:405 (796) - K ^

02:29:163 (843) - k Decided to change 02:28:998 (841) instead

04:21:250 (151) - k doesn't fit the drum part, so I left this the same

04:21:745 (155) - k ^

07:20:425 (1497) - k The kick is a bit more empowering than the ride here, so I left it as a d.

Stefan wrote:

hi there

02:28:174 (837) - k sounds better imo done
02:29:492 (845) - ^ done
02:31:305 (853) - Big D should be put to emphasize the beat here. done
02:34:024 (878) - I think this should be changed to d. It has the same schema as like 01:59:658 (664,665,666); the first and thrid hit are higher as the second. This only sounds like that because of the depth of the snare, it really has the same pitch. So I'm leaving this one.
02:38:063 (906) - Maybe Big K here instead? It has a higher pitch as the other. I'm not really going with the higher pitches of the crashes, only when there's a snare on a crash.
02:45:974 (968) - d? doesn't fit here cause of the snare.
03:07:485 (1121) - I think this part sounds better without a triplet. I'm using the triplet to continue the kicks that are here, just like 02:56:688 (1046,1047,1048,1049).
04:19:767 (142) - Maybe Big K here instead? It has a higher pitch as the other. Same explanation as the other one, only using K if there's a snare.
06:19:767 (985) - 06:20:096 (988) - Either make 985 to d or 988 to k. I think the combination of kkk kkd doens't sounds so well. Changed 06:19:602 (983,984) to d's instead to help transition better, it did play weird at first.
06:20:673 (994) - d here? the k here sounds weird and the song sounds more to end with this circle the higher pitch. This would feel weird for me to play since I'm using opposites on this part.
06:34:931 (1137) - k here? done
06:53:723 (1318) - this Circle should be more emphasized and Big K seems fine for that. Used a D instead.
06:54:299 (1322) - d? Nah, going with the high hats mostly.

Nwolf wrote:

woof!

01:21:251 (379) - why kat here? Don't think it fits alone that well, maybe also kat on 380/381? This is for the spike in the guitar after this on 380/381/382, the same concept is on 01:26:526 (417,418,419,420)
01:31:801 (456) - ^ same as above
01:27:680 (425) - Think it's better as don, doesn't sound good as kat done
01:38:229 (505) - ^ done
02:57:925 (1054) - delete, only time you mapped it like this done
05:41:443 (685) - delete, think it plays better without this note doing this doesn't really make a difference, leaving this here
06:15:234 - Think a don here would fit good, to follow your previous patterns. And it feels better imo done


really nice map, good luck^^

Dainesl wrote:

M4M thing yay

Taiko

00:40:044 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - this sounds the same as all the other patterns of similar kind before it, why the sudden kat at the end of it? This was for the guitar.
00:49:770 (184) - this clearly doesn't need to be a finisher kat, there's no hard cymbal sound, unless this was intended remove the finisher This was intentional, but I removed it anyways.
00:56:362 - from here to 01:01:637 - the sudden abundance of kats is kinda weird but that's due to the general abundance of dons used before...00:52:241 (198) - listen to this ;w; it's a kat sound not a don sound. if you're gonna keep the general pattern structure as it is at least change all the dons like this one up until the first timing point in this suggestion to kats and the same from 01:02:791 (263) - onwards. This was to add variety since this part is exactly the same. So I inverted the notes which creates something nice while keeping the same concept.
01:06:912 (291) - why no finisher here...if there's a finisher at 01:09:219 (306) - ? ;w; Because the k is acting as the finisher from the ddk.
01:15:318 (341,342,343) - this section sounds like 3 dons to me; the second note doesn't really sound like it should be a kat imo This is because this part isn't kick kick kick, it's kick tom kick.
01:17:461 (356) - this isn't really dragged out; a finisher probably wouldn't fit here too well imo.removed the finisher
01:27:021 (420) - this sounds really high pitched, not like a don would be! (also YES I GOT TO MENTION 420 ) rip lol, I'm leaving this how it is since I was still going with the rhythm guitar instead of the lead on this part. So I felt that the variety would be better suited if I mix the drums with the rhythm guitar. But I did fix that and the other k so it fits with the lead guitar.
01:27:845 (426,427,428) - invert these so that (429) can have a greater reason to be a kat (same reason as previous, just without the 420 :c) since the instruments work best with kkd, or even kdd if you think that wouldn't work Left this alone.
01:37:570 (500) - perhaps change the pattern slightly to give reason for this being K or D? there's a cymbal playing here so I'd assume that would be a finisher in your book judging on the previous bits of the map I really on left finishers for new sections, end of sections, or emphisis. The d that is here acts as a finisher in a way since it's different from the rest of the roll.
01:50:427 (597) - ^ and you used a finisher on the next note which is a little bit less emphasised, definitely should have a finisher here! same reasoning before.
01:59:823 (666) - ^ although idk if you'd want to change the pattern here as it fits quite nicely...also 666 I like what I have more due to the guitar and somewhat of the drums mixing together.
02:10:372 (724) - see 01:27:845, except without the inverting colours bit The higher pitch was a little bit earlier, so this wouldn't actually emphisize the small pitch change.
02:11:361 (730) - no finisher here but a finisher at 02:11:691 (732) - ;w; Same reasoning as earlier, the k acts as a finisher from the dd.
02:29:328 (844,845) - these two parts sound alike when you listen to it without the don/kat, make it look like it! made it k k.
02:38:063 (906) - the cymbal is pretty intense here, perhaps make it a K instead? Had nothing but drums in this part, wasn't going with the pitches. so the D fits a bit more.
02:47:293 (978,979,980) - perhaps make these all dons? nothing much to follow here... left this alone since I was trying to keep the same feeling but have variety from the first 2.
02:47:622 (981) - again, cymbal's intense here, make it a K instead? Same reasoning as above.
02:48:776 (992) - ^ although you may have to change the pattern slightly The kick sticks out a bit more to me, left this alone.
03:06:249 (1112) - and 03:06:908 (1117) - ^ Same reasoning as earlier.
03:09:216 (1131,1132,1133,1134,1135) - why suddenly 5 notes when you normally do 3 notes like this? intentional or inconsistency? This is intentional.
03:16:139 (1181,1182,1183,1184,1185,1186,1187,1188,1189,1190,1191,1192,1193,1194,1195,1196,1197,1198,1199,1200,1201,1202,1203) - this pattern's a doozy, let me try and break it down. first: the high-pitched sound is not correctly shown at 03:16:469 (1185) - probably gonna have to tweak the pattern to keep the flow. secondly: 03:17:540 (1198,1199,1200) - this doesn't really follow anything, so maybe delete these in order for this pattern not to be seen as super OP compared to the rest. It would also help with the third issue: 03:17:787 (1201) - this should be a finisher as it's a very significant part of the song, but you'd need to delete the next note for this to be even rankable...so if the last part isn't applied then you might not be able to apply the rest of this I was going with the drum roll to build into the kiai. I can hit this perfectly fine as the flow does not break at all. Every k should start on the same hand unless you have a ddkk playstyle.
1st Kiai time as a whole: Why are there so many triplets that keep on coming, like ddd kdd ddd without something like ddd k d ddd? ;w; this happens up to 6 times at once which is unusual considering the rest of the map before and there are NO 1/1 breaks at all ;~; there really doesn't need to be any breaks, breaks are justifiable and really not needed.
03:38:886 (1373) - there's not really much need for a finisher here imo. There's a crash here to emphisize.
04:17:624 (133) - relatively high pitch here so it may be seen as a K but it's not really THAT high...the decision is yours I guess left as a D
2nd Kiai time: aaaaaaa way harder than the rest of the map beforehand at the first bit!!!! then it gets a lot tamer afterwards...at least there's 1/1 breaks here unlike the previous Kiai the first kiai really had no place to stop at in the first place XD
3rd Kiai time: why so many doublets compared to the rest of the map? it seems more of them are here than the rest of the map combined. was this for flow or rhythm purposes or variety or...??? Both rhythm and variety, you can hear the guitar and drums, so I went with both. This created a new variety of options to go with, so I had this progress more into the drums later on.
05:56:030 (789,790,791,792,793) - maybe make this kdddk to map the more prominent instrument that happens at 789 which sounds like a k? Wouldn't keep consistency, this is nothing but muscle memory right now.
06:01:965 (830,831,832,833,834) - see 03:09:216 same as before.
06:08:888 (881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899,900) - the way you mapped this seems really weird and off-putting compared to the rest of it which was pretty decently mapped (at least you put a 1/2 break in just before the Kiai begins) The only off-sounding part of this roll is 06:09:959 (894), which if I had this as a d, the flow would break quite a bit.
Final Kiai time: nothing new here really apart from the kdddddkddddd pattern (which is kinda neat imo) and the slightly more complex patterns (but they're not very new either) although I must question this pattern 06:50:261 (1280,1281,1282,1283,1284,1285,1286,1287,1288,1289,1290,1291,1292,1293,1294,1295,1296,1297,1298,1299,1300,1301,1302,1303,1304,1305,1306,1307,1308) - which doesn't accommodate for the finishers at all, making the map seem inconsistent in that way plus why is it so LONG (29 notes! jeez! break it up a bit at least for the accommodation of the finishers...) I wanted this different than before and I wanted to keep the kicks that continue on here, making this roll long, complicated, but still easy to hit.
06:53:723 (1318) - Yet again, intense cymbals here, why not make this a K instead? drums ask for a D since there's no snare here.
07:07:073 (1414) - and 07:07:568 (1419) - ^ but you'll need to change the pattern again ;w; keeping the kicks that I have, so I didn't use the finishers but I used a k as alternatives for finishers.
07:08:007 (1422) - perhaps make this a don? it would make the pattern play with the music a bit better done
07:19:271 (1493) - perhaps make this a don for variety instead of a kat, which will flow well with the next bit the snares are a bit more powerful, so keeping this as a k would keep this consistent with the k before, which doesn't break flow.
07:19:436 (1494) - make this a K instead because the cymbal's quite intense more for the drums, so I kept this as a D
07:24:876 (1517) - make all notes like this dons for consistency made 07:23:227 (1511) a k instead.

And that's it I guess. Sorry for the massive drop in quality later on...still I hope it was useful to you! ;w;

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Red Love best Love *shot*

[General]
Move the bg down even more to somewhere 0,140 since some part of the hair is cut away now D: This is intentional D:
Maybe add Nada Upasana Pundarika <- the album which the song originates from in tags? done

[ Inner Oni]
Don't you think HP7 for a 8minute map is a little too harsh? just saying Nah, it's better than using od7. I like the idea of needing a little more effort to pass.

00:26:116 (and anywhere similar) - this feels more like a k here to me @_@ the pitch is relatively high with the ds and also places like 00:23:479, i think you put d here to be consistent with the d k"d"d , but imo following the pitch is better The pitch fits what I have a little bit more
00:38:231 - K here? the cymbal crash here feels good with it, and also you put K at 00:45:814 This is the start of a new measure, and the K you pointed out is 1/1 before what it should be.
00:48:341 (182,183) - just a mild suggestion here, change these to ks? the feeling that the guitar gives (and the pitch) feels exactly the same as 00:48:121 I was going with the drum here.
01:09:467 - move this to 01:09:631 and change it to k lolol ? it will make the note follow the guitar a bit more and make 01:10:703 (316,317,318,319,320) feel less awkward since your current pattern just switches from the drums to the guitar randomly D: I was using the kicks here, so I'm leaving that. Also I changed that ddkkk to a ddkdk, that should help a little.
01:55:784 - make this k too? both the guitar and the drums doesn't get low in pitch and ddkkddkk is more balanced to play imo This is more to fit the drum roll in general. So I'm leaving this the same
01:59:740 - delete this note? the music seems to have a short break here, having a 1/4 pattern here doesn't really go along with the atmosphere of the song and i would say its kinda overmapped Changed and fixed it up a little. d K should fit a little bit more.
02:23:723 (801,802,803,804,805) - ....seriously? this part is perfect kkkkk material lol I wanted to single out the k's after this, so either one would work.
02:39:876 (918,919,920,921,922) - it sounds more like kdkdd to me following the pitch of the drums used ddddd instead.
02:47:622 - change this to K? in this way the pattern of this big notes will become D-K-D-K feels more systemized was against this earlier, but changed
03:57:183 (13,14,15) - turn these into k? it emphsize the bass pitch thats descending better Only changed the first one. Seems a bit more reasonable to me.
04:24:876 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200) - OMFGSOSBRINGYOURKIDSRUNFORYOUROWNLIVESSSSSSSS seriously the sudden streams scared me lol
05:05:921 (480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488) - this is going to kill many players D: Best part of demetori with inner oni ideas.
05:32:954 (613,614,615,616,617,618) - change both of these to kdk kdk? you used it somewhere before (i forgot where) that the music flows in the exactly same way I was using the kicks a little bit more. So doing this would be a bit meh.
06:45:316 (1235,1236,1237,1238,1239,1240,1241) - this pattern is really random compared to the strict patterns you're using in the whole kiai @_@ the drums doesn't really call for dkddkdk anyway, maybe change it to dkddkkd? made it a simple ddkddddk instead
06:49:602 (1275,1276,1277) - well i would be consistent on emphasizing the strong basses with Ks, and i don't see how this part needs to be mapped differently from the rest of the map ,so maybe delete the second d and change the k into a big note? I've used this earlier in the map in the same exact way.
06:54:052 (1319,1320,1321,1322,1323) - just a mild suggestion, change this into kdkdk? the guitar feels better with it~ I used the high hats a little more here.
07:23:227 - considering nearby pattern is a mix and d and k, here being 4 ds feels a bit strange, change this to k, also for consistency with the upcoming patterns? done

Sorry if my mod is getting more and more worse towards the end, I'm getting sleepy no worries, sleepy while replying XP
Well this is an epic song with an epic map ww Good luck for approval!

1. 02:27:020 (830,831,832) - how about d d d K here?
2. 02:38:805 (913,914) - swap? the snare-drum should be 913 as I listen.
3. 02:39:134 (917) - I will suggest to delete that note, let 02:39:217 (918) - be finisher,
4. (cont' ^) 02:39:876 (921,922) - and then delete these notes, it sounds better overall.
5. 05:28:256 (582) - just my feeling, I think you may try delete this note,
6. (cont') 05:28:338 (583) - and then add finish here, it sounds good for me.
7. 06:36:168 (1148) - kat? ddk dkd ddk is great flow here imo
8. Very nice, a well-made Demetori map.

KanaRin wrote:

Ok, let's go!

Inner Oni

1. 02:27:020 (830,831,832) - how about d d d K here? I left this as-is due to the kicks starting back up with the next pattern.
2. 02:38:805 (913,914) - swap? the snare-drum should be 913 as I listen. I changed the snare into a k instead for a kkdkkdkkd pattern.
3. 02:39:134 (917) - I will suggest to delete that note, let 02:39:217 (918) - be finisher, I want to keep the full pattern here since this one isn't really as strong as the ones before it.
4. (cont' ^) 02:39:876 (921,922) - and then delete these notes, it sounds better overall. done
5. 05:28:256 (582) - just my feeling, I think you may try delete this note,
6. (cont') 05:28:338 (583) - and then add finish here, it sounds good for me. done since it's the start of a new section.
7. 06:36:168 (1148) - kat? ddk dkd ddk is great flow here imo done
8. Very nice, a well-made Demetori map. :3c

let me know after checking this.

2014-08-11 09:14 lolcubes: id consider adding a few notes
2014-08-11 09:15 lolcubes: 07:22:898 - 07:24:546 - 07:26:194 - 

1. add Kikou(romanization of 帰航) , 小野塚小町 , Komachi Onoduka(romanization of 小野塚小町) , 東方花映塚 , Kaeiduka(romanization of 花映塚) to tags.
   also, remove "View" and "of". that already exists in title.
   detail of them is here : http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Phantasma ... .27s_theme

1. 01:21:251 (379,380) - swap them. it will get better for guitar/snaredrum sound. also you did it on 01:26:691 (418) -
2. 01:31:801 (456,457) - the same.
3. 01:37:488 (499) - => 01:37:158 - move here as a d. then, 01:37:570 (500) - change to D? i think you shouldnt ignore cymbal sound.
4. 02:41:854 (936) - K fits better in the same way as that d k 02:42:183 (937,938) - 02:42:678 (939,940) -
5. 03:17:787 (1197) - i think it needs finisher to switch to KIAI smoothly/clearly. so you did it on 03:28:337 (1286) -
6. 03:39:545 - change to dddkk or ddkkk. since this part has some snaredrum sounds more than previous ddddk
7. 07:22:898 (1510) - sounds weird for me. maybe it should be moved to 07:23:063 - as a d. so 07:22:898 - there is no sound.
8. also 07:24:546 (1517) - 07:26:112 (1524) - the same as above.

TKS wrote:

[ Inner Oni]

1. 02:41:854 (936) - K fits better in the same way as that d k 02:42:183 (937,938) - 02:42:678 (939,940) - this just felt a little weird to me since the pitch isn't as high as the rest of them, so I left this one alone

Dainesl wrote:

HYPE!!

Nwolf wrote:

\o/