atmo dnb carried by anime aesthetic but at least it's not attached to a shitty alias like junko furuta pop or whatever
would it kill her to make her drums interesting

xch00F wrote:

atmo dnb carried by anime aesthetic but at least it's not attached to a shitty alias like junko furuta pop or whatever
would it kill her to make her drums interesting

Yeah lol breakcorednb and anime makes it look kinda interesting tho

it's not breakcore

xch00F wrote:

it's not breakcore

fixed! now ngl i kinda hate to say the word breakcore. it's like saying that rap is pop music. aditionally when some random guy listens to amen breaks they immediately think that's breakcore

there's overlap and I rly do wish that these producers would put any amount of effort into sequencing their drums and actually made breakcore, atmo dnb is fine and all but a bit boring

me when you MUST follow music theory and put A LOT of effort to make your music and not do just whatever sounds good to you

me when I make milquetoast passive aggressive shitheaded posts and not just fuck off

i like firetruck and monstertruck

is everyone coming back or something

xch00F wrote:

me when I make milquetoast passive aggressive shitheaded posts and not just fuck off

thats how 60% of people here communicate nowadays, get used to it

Polyspora wrote:

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

me when you MUST follow music theory and put A LOT of effort to make your music and not do just whatever sounds good to you

me when I make milquetoast passive aggressive shitheaded posts and not just fuck off

thats how 60% of people here communicate nowadays, get used to it

mm, true

i would assume it's sort of a chain reaction of various perspectives that are just not going to cleanly align

and in these conditions "get used to it" is probably not going to work to diffuse that ^^;; maybe the ideal for non-conflict could be something like "if you disagree or think this is questionable, don't say shit and nothing will happen", but there's only so much that can be expected from the various things you and others think. you end up weighing that for whatever amount of time it takes between you reading something and you posting something, and that will probably be affected by a limited amount of self-awareness that might not kick in until it's too late. you won't know how others will respond, and critiquing others' critical responses is still critique

so the alternative could probably be something like "let's find a common-ground language to mediate between specific people if they do respond in some way"? since everyone has a very particular and granular venn diagram of in-groups (think mathematical set theory) that intersect in dissonant places, we kind of have to switch how we speak from person to person if we genuinely were wanting to have a conversation get closer to what we each wanted it to be. most of us likely already do that, although we probably vary in terms of where that limit sits for us, and chances of compromise probably can take a shittier outlook if it's with people who don't get your humor and aren't able to overlap with you the way you want

(an example could be "please laugh for once [at my particular kind of humor, except i also could intend to alert you that you do not know how to "take a joke" the way people probably should]" if that's an accurate impression)

many people don't fuck off, often times because to some level they happen to care about something directly or tangentially (whether it's the subject itself, or it's instead an investment in the humor of trolling the people that care about a subject)

the things we choose to respond to tend to reveal that, inclusive of this post, your humor (...maybe?), and the history of gmt-related posts. likewise, it includes how i commonly choose to respond to... i'm not really sure, actually... for now, i Think it's at least two things-- a joke that seemed contentious, or it's a moment someone appears to be confused/weary where i very haphazardly jump in as if i had some kind of informative context that would somehow resolve whatever it is that i thought/imagined the situation was

idk, sincerity seems cool :> but i suppose our default styles of sincerity can also be misinterpreted, so there's that mess as well

honestly i wouldn't blame people if that was the reason for highly sarcastic/ironic conversational humor

...

EDIT: SHIT. ONE MOMENT I START TYPING, THE NEXT MOMENT AN ESSAY APPEARS ✨

i wouldn't say i apologize, but hell if this isn't a plausible character flaw lmao

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

short answer: genuinely i have no clue lol but maybe my brain is fucked

long answer: i actually do have the time, my life is truly empty at the moment besides making art/music or trying to be a caregiver and being only barely okay at it. but psychologically i seem to be incredibly disproportionately fixated on communication with text as a result of...

being terrible at talking to people irl + generally being intensely isolated + being incredibly fixated on human communication and sociocultural phenomena (usually online) + i love words

...and all of that led to me somehow managing to make that my entire personality learning to adapt toward typing like this as a result

Polyspora wrote:

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

i don't know if i've understood you correctly, but i don't mean "let's find common ground" as in agreement or civility, i intended something closer to "let's establish what the hell we're even trying to say in a way we mutually understand" but "common-ground language" was closer tbh and it was already getting long

...but that makes sense, i suppose. would it be a matter of just not wanting to deal with the effort of communication for something you don't actually care that much about? is it something else instead?

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

short answer: genuinely i have no clue lol but maybe my brain is fucked

long answer: i actually do have the time, my life is truly empty at the moment besides making art/music or trying to be a caregiver and being only barely okay at it. but psychologically i seem to be incredibly disproportionately fixated on communication with text as a result of being terrible at talking to people irl and generally being intensely isolated, therfore it's my only reliable way of expressing myself (+ i love words), so i probably managed to make that my entire personality learned to adapt toward typing like this as a result

Polyspora wrote:

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

i don't know if i've understood you correctly, but i don't mean "let's find common ground" as in agreement or civility, i intended something closer to "let's establish what the hell we're even trying to say in a way we mutually understand" but "common-ground language" was closer tbh and it was already getting long

...but that makes sense, i suppose. would it be a matter of just not wanting to deal with the effort of communication for something you don't actually care that much about? is it something else instead?

I dont care that much for this whole forum nowadays. so uh I guess anything posted here falls under that category

Polyspora wrote:

xch00F wrote:

me when I make milquetoast passive aggressive shitheaded posts and not just fuck off

thats how 60% of people here communicate nowadays, get used to it

what a depressing sentiment
if you rly believe this to be a valid justification for posting like this I feel pretty sorry for you

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

xch00F wrote:

me when I make milquetoast passive aggressive shitheaded posts and not just fuck off

thats how 60% of people here communicate nowadays, get used to it

what a depressing sentiment
if you rly believe this to be a valid justification for posting like this I feel pretty sorry for you

ok

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

yeah but its like every single time lol

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

yeah but its like every single time lol

again, they find it worth it

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

that's possible! i do enjoy the process of trying to understand and slowly/gradually working through my impressions of what seems possibly accurately representative of something at a given moment c:

but i also think this is very heavily conditioned into me in a different sense, from more compulsive sources

like a need for unattainably perfect information, a need to understand people, a need to be understood by people, and a need to feel like i'm even remotely capable of connection and humanity. there are also insecurities that compel me to be very self-vigilant about delivery and image while not necessarily being good at that;;

i find it worthwhile and it is very sincere and meaningful for me, but it can easily be also a matter of fear and doubt alongside that

Achromalia wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

that's possible! i do enjoy the process of trying to understand and slowly/gradually working through my impressions of what seems possibly accurately representative of something at a given moment c:

but i also think this is very heavily conditioned into me in a different sense, from more compulsive sources

like a need for unattainably perfect information, a need to understand people, a need to be understood by people, and a need to feel like i'm even remotely capable of connection and humanity. there are also insecurities that compel me to be very self-vigilant about delivery and image while not necessarily being good at that;;

i find it worthwhile and it is very sincere and meaningful for me, but it can easily be also a matter of fear and doubt alongside that

yeah I get you, overall writing things out is a great way to actually form your thoughts and it does help the process of thinking

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

yeah but its like every single time lol

again, they find it worth it

I FIND IT FUNNY I NEVER SAID IT WAS NOT WORTH IT WAHT THE FUCKK

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

how do you find the time to type so much in OT lol

anyway, I prefer much more a "fuck off" than "sir, please lets try to find common ground", its his persona, let the guy be, I dont want to talk to robots. its not fun.

idk, it's less a question of time and more of willpower, any one can do this as long as they find worth it, I personally do, and I think for achromalia it is the same

yeah but its like every single time lol

again, they find it worth it

I FIND IT FUNNY I NEVER SAID IT WAS NOT WORTH IT WAHT THE FUCKK

but you thought

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

yeah but its like every single time lol

again, they find it worth it

I FIND IT FUNNY I NEVER SAID IT WAS NOT WORTH IT WAHT THE FUCKK

a,, no that's entirely fair!! i kinda get it

i think it's one of those weird moments where despite not explicitly saying that at all, there are parts of language that can be read really really ambiguously depending on how similar parts of a phrase have been used for other people... in defense of "why might someone doubt poly agreed and understood the point, and feel compelled to state the argument again?", you can point to little things that can raise question marks like "yeah But its like Every Single Time (lol)"

+ the agreement from "yeah" could be easy for the reader to miss, since it commonly appears as being de-emphasized by "but"

+ the stressors/qualifiers of "every single time" also draw attention away from "yeah" and the phrase is very very commonly expressed with weariness or exhaustion which can be perceived as implying disagreement even when none is ever described

+ "lol" ends up playing a similar role to "yeah" where it is so commonly used in conflicting contexts and tones and
intents to the point that it could almost appear meaningless or half-hearted or insincere or something

...and those points aren't meant as critiques because you didn't actually even Do Anything Wrong in any of this, it's... more like a breakdown of how this writing can alternatively be believably perceived by me or some others, so that this situation might be more understandable

presumably, patatitta might've thought that re-emphasizing would... ok i said all of that but i'm not sure what patatitta had in mind either x') at the same time i'm slightly caught off-guard by the tone in all-caps expression of confusion but it seems like it would make sense

yeah ngl i don't think i get what happened here either :'p but at least the language thoughts could've been interesting?? i hope but idk maybe not ^^

I like how this thread
5% talking bout the song
95% being OT (idk I just came and wtf just happened here)

anyway that was a banger song, and for ot-ers, happy argued.

reffty_gag wrote:

I like how this thread
5% talking bout the song
95% being OT (idk I just came and wtf just happened here)

anyway that was a banger song, and for ot-ers, happy argued.

we weren't necessarily arguing ;0; long text does not always equal a fight, i promise :')

...but also you're not wrong that ot will kinda just be ot (being the off-topic subforum, in which we are free to derail a conversation however we like), it's just, do we mean to focus on laying blame or would we just be lamenting that it happens to be like this a lot of the time? additionally some people would likely think things were entirely fine anyway

Achromalia wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

I like how this thread
5% talking bout the song
95% being OT (idk I just came and wtf just happened here)

anyway that was a banger song, and for ot-ers, happy argued.

we weren't necessarily arguing ;0; long text does not always equal a fight, i promise :')

...but also you're not wrong that ot will kinda just be ot (being the off-topic subforum, in which we are free to derail a conversation however we like), it's just, do we mean to focus on laying blame or would we just be lamenting that it happens to be like this a lot of the time? additionally some people would likely think things were entirely fine anyway

ik it's not an argue but idk what word that fits in

reffty_gag wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

I like how this thread
5% talking bout the song
95% being OT (idk I just came and wtf just happened here)

anyway that was a banger song, and for ot-ers, happy argued.

we weren't necessarily arguing ;0; long text does not always equal a fight, i promise :')

...but also you're not wrong that ot will kinda just be ot (being the off-topic subforum, in which we are free to derail a conversation however we like), it's just, do we mean to focus on laying blame or would we just be lamenting that it happens to be like this a lot of the time? additionally some people would likely think things were entirely fine anyway

ik it's not an argue but idk what word that fits in

true, english is sometimes genuinely difficult to find the right words for subtle and specific ideas/feelings...

idk it could be like "happy discoursing" or "have a happy debate"? because those are less about the confrontation and more about trying to use reasoning and rhetoric to make a point about the information/perspective we're hoping to contribute to the conversation

Achromalia wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

I like how this thread
5% talking bout the song
95% being OT (idk I just came and wtf just happened here)

anyway that was a banger song, and for ot-ers, happy argued.

we weren't necessarily arguing ;0; long text does not always equal a fight, i promise :')

...but also you're not wrong that ot will kinda just be ot (being the off-topic subforum, in which we are free to derail a conversation however we like), it's just, do we mean to focus on laying blame or would we just be lamenting that it happens to be like this a lot of the time? additionally some people would likely think things were entirely fine anyway

ik it's not an argue but idk what word that fits in

true, english is sometimes genuinely difficult to find the right words for subtle and specific ideas/feelings...

idk it could be like "happy discoursing" or "have a happy debate"? because those are less about the confrontation and more about trying to use reasoning and rhetoric to make a point about the information/perspective we're hoping to contribute to the conversation

Yeah, since my English still bad

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

yeah but its like every single time lol

again, they find it worth it

I FIND IT FUNNY I NEVER SAID IT WAS NOT WORTH IT WAHT THE FUCKK

a,, no that's entirely fair!! i kinda get it

i think it's one of those weird moments where despite not explicitly saying that at all, there are parts of language that can be read really really ambiguously depending on how similar parts of a phrase have been used for other people... in defense of "why might someone doubt poly agreed and understood the point, and feel compelled to state the argument again?", you can point to little things that can raise question marks like "yeah But its like Every Single Time (lol)"

+ the agreement from "yeah" could be easy for the reader to miss, since it commonly appears as being de-emphasized by "but"

+ the stressors/qualifiers of "every single time" also draw attention away from "yeah" and the phrase is very very commonly expressed with weariness or exhaustion which can be perceived as implying disagreement even when none is ever described

+ "lol" ends up playing a similar role to "yeah" where it is so commonly used in conflicting contexts and tones and
intents to the point that it could almost appear meaningless or half-hearted or insincere or something

...and those points aren't meant as critiques because you didn't actually even Do Anything Wrong in any of this, it's... more like a breakdown of how this writing can alternatively be believably perceived by me or some others, so that this situation might be more understandable

presumably, patatitta might've thought that re-emphasizing would... ok i said all of that but i'm not sure what patatitta had in mind either x') at the same time i'm slightly caught off-guard by the tone in all-caps expression of confusion but it seems like it would make sense

yeah ngl i don't think i get what happened here either :'p but at least the language thoughts could've been interesting?? i hope but idk maybe not ^^

I percieved poly's comment as more as a genuine question rather than a joke or a rhetoric question

reffty_gag wrote:

I like how this thread
5% talking bout the song
95% being OT (idk I just came and wtf just happened here)

anyway that was a banger song, and for ot-ers, happy argued.

idk, I have nothing much to say about sewerslvt, is not a music genre I enjoy, it's not a subculture I enjoy either, and also i've heard that sewerslvt is a shit human being so like, I just don't really want to get into it at all

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

yeah but its like every single time lol

Patatitta wrote:

again, they find it worth it

Polyspora wrote:

I FIND IT FUNNY I NEVER SAID IT WAS NOT WORTH IT WAHT THE FUCKK

a,, no that's entirely fair!! i kinda get it

i think it's one of those weird moments where despite not explicitly saying that at all, there are parts of language that can be read really really ambiguously depending on how similar parts of a phrase have been used for other people... in defense of "why might someone doubt poly agreed and understood the point, and feel compelled to state the argument again?", you can point to little things that can raise question marks like "yeah But its like Every Single Time (lol)"

+ the agreement from "yeah" could be easy for the reader to miss, since it commonly appears as being de-emphasized by "but"

+ the stressors/qualifiers of "every single time" also draw attention away from "yeah" and the phrase is very very commonly expressed with weariness or exhaustion which can be perceived as implying disagreement even when none is ever described

+ "lol" ends up playing a similar role to "yeah" where it is so commonly used in conflicting contexts and tones and intents to the point that it could almost appear meaningless or half-hearted or insincere or something

...and those points aren't meant as critiques because you didn't actually even Do Anything Wrong in any of this, it's... more like a breakdown of how this writing can alternatively be believably perceived by me or some others, so that this situation might be more understandable

presumably, patatitta might've thought that re-emphasizing would... ok i said all of that but i'm not sure what patatitta had in mind either x') at the same time i'm slightly caught off-guard by the tone in all-caps expression of confusion but it seems like it would make sense

yeah ngl i don't think i get what happened here either :'p but at least the language thoughts could've been interesting?? i hope but idk maybe not ^^

I percieved poly's comment as more as a genuine question rather than a joke or a rhetoric question

mmn i figured that at least, though i wonder if poly saw this not as an answer-to-a-genuine-question, but instead it was viewed in the lens of "...?? you're repeating this like i didn't hear you the first time, i get that" + [insert whatever might've been meant by "but its like Every Single Time"] + "the only reason i imagine you would be saying this is if you were insinuating something adjacent to me not accepting that someone could just be very interested in something, so yeah no that's not at all what i said"

idk if that was exactly poly's thought process but it seems to be close enough to how i absorbed it. for my confusion, i think i wasn't sure what the reasoning beyond it being a genuine answer was-- something along the lines of why the statement was repeated or what it was meant to add. that question was what i meant to fill in the gap for when i described those possible "+" points, but i wasn't sure at all what it really came from at the time

additionally, my reason for adding to it myself was to give it more depth than my form of speech being purely a matter of interest, while trying to bridge and connect the conversation a bit for an imaginary ideal of mutual clarity i wanted to actualize

poly didnt see the answer at all. poly doesnt read more than 1 paragraph. poly dum