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Bend The Sky - Reform II

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Rez
31 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Rez
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, May 16, 2014 at 10:19:33 PM

Artist: Bend The Sky
Title: Reform II
Tags: slow rock
BPM: 125
Filesize: 2685kb
Play Time: 02:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (4.79 stars, 317 notes)
  2. Normal (2.35 stars, 158 notes)
Download: Bend The Sky - Reform II
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First beatmap I've actually put a lot of effort into though only 2 difficulties. Hope you enjoy it and can give me some helpful tips.
Last edited by Rez , edited 4 times in total.
Gexigamma
155 posts
Joined August 2013
Gexigamma
Hi! It's me again :3 / From #modreqs
Normal
For all the grid fixes you have to use grid level 4.
  1. 00:38:460 (1) Move the last node of the slider 1 grid space to the left.
  2. 00:39:420 (2) Move the whole slider 2 spaces to the left and 3 up.
  3. 00:51:420 (3) Make this slider rounded.
  4. 00:54:300 (3) Move this to [x=192 y=96]
  5. 01:24:060 (2) This seems wrong for me. Maybe playing with slider velocity fixes it.
  6. 01:30:300 (1,2,3) ^^
  7. 01:22:620 (1) Move the mid node 7-10 spaces down. This is to make it more interesting. You may repeat this in large sliders like 01:24:540 (1) or 01:36:060 (1)
Hard
  1. Remove the breaks from the beginning! They are really annoying! (If right clicking doesn't work, decrease the time of the break ;) )
  2. 00:45:900 (5) Replace it with a normal 1/4 slider.
  3. 01:08:700 (2,3) ^^ OR make it a single slider (example 01:24:060 (8,1) )
  4. 01:32:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) This is very confusing :S
  5. 01:59:100 (1,2,5,6) ^^
Rez
31 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Rez

Gexigamma wrote:

Hi! It's me again :3 / From #modreqs
Normal
For all the grid fixes you have to use grid level 4.
  1. 00:38:460 (1) Move the last node of the slider 1 grid space to the left. Moved
  2. 00:39:420 (2) Move the whole slider 2 spaces to the left and 3 up. Moved
  3. 00:51:420 (3) Make this slider rounded. Changed
  4. 00:54:300 (3) Move this to [x=192 y=96] Moved
  5. 01:24:060 (2) This seems wrong for me. Maybe playing with slider velocity fixes it. It was wrong. Fixed it.
  6. 01:30:300 (1,2,3) ^^
  7. 01:22:620 (1) Move the mid node 7-10 spaces down. Moved This is to make it more interesting. You may repeat this in large sliders like 01:24:540 (1) or 01:36:060 (1)
Hard
  1. Remove the breaks from the beginning! They are really annoying! (If right clicking doesn't work, decrease the time of the break ;) ) Cleared
  2. 00:45:900 (5) Replace it with a normal 1/4 slider. Changed
  3. 01:08:700 (2,3) ^^ OR make it a single slider (example 01:24:060 (8,1) ) Replaced
  4. 01:32:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) This is very confusing :S Noted, don't know what to do yet. (Dont want to overuse streams)
  5. 01:59:100 (1,2,5,6) ^^
Thanks for the mod once again! :D
dalollypop
94 posts
Joined June 2013
dalollypop
Hi I can only point out a couple of things because i am very nooby at modding, but every little helps i guess :D and much better than my first beatmap by faar <3

Normal

01:09:180 (1) - here just nudge to the left a tiny little bit, so that it starts (stacks) where the last note ended, also
01:11:100 (3) - same as above here make it overlap with 01:09:180 (1) - start point.
this might mean to space the next note to the left and the slider at 01:12:060 (5) - I recommend making it a curve because next few notes go in a little curve too.
SPOILER
also this might help bring the 01:13:500 (1) - note closer so it can overlap 01:11:580 (4) - and look cleaner. jsut adjust the next few notes to fit the distance snap.

not sure about this but 02:23:820 (4) - this slider here maybe extend it to 02:25:260 or 02:25:500 - im not sure which fits better :oops:

Hard

ok this is all up to you (obviously) if you want to go with my suggestions.

00:18:300 (3) - this slider i think might be better to end at 00:18:780 - and add a note 00:19:020 here. (my own personal preferences, your current one is fine jsut see what you like better)

if you do that, then maybe 00:25:860 (4) - remove note here........00:26:100 (5) - bring this to 00:25:980 and extend like previous and put a note 00:26:700

00:17:940 (2) - hmm not sure about blue here, it seems to fit but also fits on red, but i think better on blue. though im not sure, just leave it be, see if other mods mind.

00:25:340 (2,3) - not snapped to a tick (i think, ai mod doesnt see it but its off tick for me, just make sure its on tick i guess thats all.)

00:32:460 (4,1) - try overlapping these i guess, makes it look cleaner, though you might need to move the other sliders with that because the pattern you are going for. maybe rotating the group can help? select the 4 sliders and CTRL + R this might help a little (you don't have to)

00:49:860 maybe add note here?

01:59:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmmm not sure if 4 and 8 should be stacked along with those as teh timeline it is further away, so people might mis time it easily. D:

02:33:180 (1,1) - not sure if second note is needed, or maybe turn into slider.

but yeah that's all i have, short mod sorry im very new to this, better than my first map haha by a mile...wait probably better than my maps i have now D:

good luck with your map :3
<3
Rez
31 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Rez
Changes

dalollypop wrote:

Hi I can only point out a couple of things because i am very nooby at modding, but every little helps i guess :D and much better than my first beatmap by faar <3

Normal

Moved 01:09:180 (1) - here just nudge to the left a tiny little bit, so that it starts (stacks) where the last note ended, also
Moved 01:11:100 (3) - same as above here make it overlap with 01:09:180 (1) - start point.
Changed this might mean to space the next note to the left and the slider at 01:12:060 (5) - I recommend making it a curve because next few notes go in a little curve too.
SPOILER
Moved also this might help bring the 01:13:500 (1) - note closer so it can overlap 01:11:580 (4) - and look cleaner. jsut adjust the next few notes to fit the distance snap.

Changed not sure about this but 02:23:820 (4) - this slider here maybe extend it to 02:25:260 or 02:25:500 - im not sure which fits better :oops:

Hard

ok this is all up to you (obviously) if you want to go with my suggestions.

Not changed 00:18:300 (3) - this slider i think might be better to end at 00:18:780 - and add a note 00:19:020 here. (my own personal preferences, your current one is fine jsut see what you like better)

Changed if you do that, then maybe 00:25:860 (4) - remove note here........00:26:100 (5) - bring this to 00:25:980 and extend like previous and put a note 00:26:700

At 25% is seemed to land on a yellow, I'll see what others think. 00:17:940 (2) - hmm not sure about blue here, it seems to fit but also fits on red, but i think better on blue. though im not sure, just leave it be, see if other mods mind.

Good catch, fixed 00:25:340 (2,3) - not snapped to a tick (i think, ai mod doesnt see it but its off tick for me, just make sure its on tick i guess thats all.)

Sorta changed, had to do a good deal of moves but it should look nicer. 00:32:460 (4,1) - try overlapping these i guess, makes it look cleaner, though you might need to move the other sliders with that because the pattern you are going for. maybe rotating the group can help? select the 4 sliders and CTRL + R this might help a little (you don't have to)

Added 00:49:860 maybe add note here?

Ill see how others feel01:59:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmmm not sure if 4 and 8 should be stacked along with those as teh timeline it is further away, so people might mis time it easily. D:

I like the slider, changed 02:33:180 (1,1) - not sure if second note is needed, or maybe turn into slider.

but yeah that's all i have, short mod sorry im very new to this, better than my first map haha by a mile...wait probably better than my maps i have now D:

good luck with your map :3
<3

Thanks! And be more confident with your modding, you're doing fine! :D
LukerMaster
130 posts
Joined November 2012
LukerMaster
Hard:
00:17:940 (2) - Resnap circle to 00:18:060
00:21:780 (2) - Move circle to 00:21:900 - It looks better
00:22:140 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Change sliders in this stream into circles or make 2 repeating sliders
00:29:820 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ The same
00:29:460 (2) - Move to 00:29:580
00:59:820 (1,1,1,1) - Remove NC (New Combo)
00:30:780 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It's not pattern for any Hards xD (Make it smaller a bit)
01:27:420 (1,2,3,4) - ^ The same
01:30:420 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I'm not sure, but I thing that it's a bit too difficult for Hard
01:32:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move this sliders into one line. It will looks better
01:36:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - Change sliders into circles
01:46:980 - add a note here (Btw. This is "Hard" diff only so put some repeating sliders into those streams)
02:18:300 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I thing, it's too big jumps between notes in last square.
02:28:860 (2) - Mute the end of slider
02:29:820 (1,1) - merge those spinners
Rez
31 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Rez
Modding

LukerMaster wrote:

Hard:
00:17:940 (2) - Resnap circle to 00:18:060 Changed
00:21:780 (2) - Move circle to 00:21:900 - It looks better Changed
00:22:140 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Change sliders in this stream into circles or make 2 repeating sliders Changed
00:29:820 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ The same Changed
00:29:460 (2) - Move to 00:29:580 Changed
00:59:820 (1,1,1,1) - Remove NC (New Combo) Changed
00:30:780 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It's not pattern for any Hards xD (Make it smaller a bit) Changed
01:27:420 (1,2,3,4) - ^ The same Changed
01:30:420 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I'm not sure, but I thing that it's a bit too difficult for Hard Kinda Changed
01:32:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move this sliders into one line. It will looks better Changed
01:36:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - Change sliders into circles Changed
01:46:980 - add a note here (Btw. This is "Hard" diff only so put some repeating sliders into those streams) Changed
02:18:300 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I thing, it's too big jumps between notes in last square. I'll see what other modders think, not sure what to do.
02:28:860 (2) - Mute the end of slider Don't know how to do that
02:29:820 (1,1) - merge those spinners Changed

Thanks!!
Saoji
825 posts
Joined February 2013
Saoji
Hello,

First of, keep in mind that everything I will say will be only suggestions, but please let me know, if possible, why you didn't change something, so I will be able to improve myself. I find the normal diff already pretty nice, so I will focus on the hard diff.

[General]
  1. Your hard diff is such an insane. Maybe you should rename it for insane. You used a lot of stream some etna sliders etc. The bpm might be slow, but keep in mind those techniques are still a hard stuff for a hard diff player. Try to catch someone who will be able to say right away if you should change your diff name.
  2. Try to use some hitsounds, it's really important. I would say hitsounds makes 45% of the map.
  3. I would start the kiai time where you ended it and I would finish it at the next break instead. The music sounds more intense.
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:740 (8) - Be careful with the aesthetic, it's important. Move this note to x:344;y:304
  2. 00:23:100 (1) - This one to x:232 ; y:248
  3. 00:23:580 (2,3) - Why did you change SV here ? Resnap (2) at 1.0x ds
  4. 00:24:540 (4) - DS x1.0, also I'm not a big fan of this overlap. I would place it on the left side of (3) and I would use Ctrl+J. It looks a bit messy right now in my point of view.
  5. 00:29:580 (2) - If you mapped 1/8, it's actually one tick before
  6. 00:30:780 (1) - This would be a nice note to add a finish on it. Try to experiment.
  7. 00:50:940 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really like the rythme you gave here. Hit sounds will help to accentuate those kind of rythme
  8. 01:00:540 (5,1) - Those 2 notes might be too close from each other it feels a bit weird. You can reduce just a bit the distance of the straight line pattern and put the stream a bit more on the top/left.
  9. 01:32:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a hard diff player will definetly spam this. But I like it though.
  10. 02:33:180 (1) - This is a bit weird too, in my point of view, curve sliders like this might look awkward when they're placed this way, I would opt here for a straight slider.
    clic here
  11. 02:33:180 (1) - Reduce volume a bit, especially at the end of the slider.
  12. 02:18:300 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Another example : Insta fail for an average hard player. But the pattern is really good. So change name diff instead of the pattern lol

That's pretty much it. Not much, but well, I can see you put effort for this. It's actually pretty good for a first map omg *-* . Keep it up!

If you have any question (about my mod, or just about mapping), feel free to send me a PM or to catch me in game.

Good luck
Rez
31 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Rez

Yales wrote:

Hello,

First of, keep in mind that everything I will say will be only suggestions, but please let me know, if possible, why you didn't change something, so I will be able to improve myself. I find the normal diff already pretty nice, so I will focus on the hard diff.

[General]
  1. Your hard diff is such an insane. Maybe you should rename it for insane. You used a lot of stream some etna sliders etc. The bpm might be slow, but keep in mind those techniques are still a hard stuff for a hard diff player. Try to catch someone who will be able to say right away if you should change your diff name. Good call, changed
  2. Try to use some hitsounds, it's really important. I would say hitsounds makes 45% of the map. Not great with hitsound placement, but I'll try
  3. I would start the kiai time where you ended it and I would finish it at the next break instead. The music sounds more intense.Agreed, changed.
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:740 (8) - Be careful with the aesthetic, it's important. Move this note to x:344;y:304 Changed
  2. 00:23:100 (1) - This one to x:232 ; y:248 Changed
  3. 00:23:580 (2,3) - Why did you change SV here ? Resnap (2) at 1.0x ds Changed
  4. 00:24:540 (4) - DS x1.0, also I'm not a big fan of this overlap. I would place it on the left side of (3) and I would use Ctrl+J. It looks a bit messy right now in my point of view. Changed
  5. 00:29:580 (2) - If you mapped 1/8, it's actually one tick before Changed
  6. 00:30:780 (1) - This would be a nice note to add a finish on it. Try to experiment. Added a couple, hopefully it's decent
  7. 00:50:940 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really like the rythme you gave here. Hit sounds will help to accentuate those kind of rythme On it
  8. 01:00:540 (5,1) - Those 2 notes might be too close from each other it feels a bit weird. You can reduce just a bit the distance of the straight line pattern and put the stream a bit more on the top/left. Changed
  9. 01:32:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a hard diff player will definetly spam this. But I like it though. I like it too c:
  10. 02:33:180 (1) - This is a bit weird too, in my point of view, curve sliders like this might look awkward when they're placed this way, I would opt here for a straight slider.Agreed, looks nicer. Changed.
    clic here
  11. 02:33:180 (1) - Reduce volume a bit, especially at the end of the slider. Nice, changed
  12. 02:18:300 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Another example : Insta fail for an average hard player. But the pattern is really good. So change name diff instead of the pattern lol

That's pretty much it. Not much, but well, I can see you put effort for this. It's actually pretty good for a first map omg *-* . Keep it up!

If you have any question (about my mod, or just about mapping), feel free to send me a PM or to catch me in game.

Good luck
Much appreciated! Thanks!
Saoji
825 posts
Joined February 2013
Saoji
Just one thing.
to follow the way you put hitsounds on this 00:30:780 (1,1) -
Try to keep up.
  1. 00:33:660 (3) - finish on the head
  2. 00:34:620 (1) - ^
  3. 00:36:540 (1) - ^
  4. 00:37:500 (3) - finish just at the beginning of the slider (select the first circle on the timeline for this)
  5. 00:38:460 (1) - circle on head
  6. 00:40:380 (1) - finish just at the beginning of the slider
  7. 00:41:340 (2) - ^
  8. 00:43:740 (4) - finish at the end of the slider
  9. 00:46:140 (1) - finish at the beginning
etc.

See if you like, you can use finish this way. It's just suggestion. You don't have to change this.
(Also, if you do something like this, some people might cry that there's too many finish. It's a nice technique though, check happy30/Natteke's map...sigh) <- This isn't the easier way to use finish though. You can also use finish every strong white tick/every 2 strong white tick, as long as it fits. Try to see what you prefer. Make sure you don't totally overuse them though.

For the claps/whistle it's a bit different, try to follow the music to get a bit used to it.
01:40:860 (3) - 01:42:780 (5) - 01:44:700 (9) - listen the music at the head of those sliders, a clap would be perfect for this kind of sound!
Honestly, on a music like this I'm not totally sure how to use whistle, I would probably use them only on the kiai time though.

But,

Basically, the easiest way to use clap/whistle is to go: white tick: clap, next white tick: whistle, next: clap then whistle etc. This is a scheme, it needs to fit, of course, and this is up to you to listen and see if you like or not. :)
This isn't an exact science, as you guess, but it might help you to get boosted a bit ^^

No ks

PS: Your mapset needs a hard diff now lol
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