take my star before bubbled
Sorry I think I didn't request you for a mod unless you are a second account.Heterozygous wrote:
Hi, as requested.
Hopefully it's still in time lol.
[General]1. I don't really like the circle.png here, If you can find a picture without too many distractions in the middle that would be great.
2. For the storyboard, you could be more creative on the fonts... but I'm not expecting you to start over this time, next time make sure to give it a shot.
3. Sliderball and followercircle is a bit hard to read for newbies, again I'm not expecting you to change this time, just mentioning.
[Easy]03:44:081 - Change slider velocity to 0.80 would be better if allowed.
04:01:072 - Change sv to 1.10? Just a bit faster.
Generally good.
[Normal]First impression: it's just suffocating. Don't make "normal" players click or drag non-stop. Here's some suggestions to improve this:
00:27:887 (6) - change to a circle
00:28:684 - add a circle or a short slider covering the following note, it's your call
00:45:675 (1) - remove
00:49:126 (1) - remove reverse
01:25:763 (4) - remove
02:01:338 (6) - remove reverse
02:20:187 (5) - ^
02:20:984 (1) - ^
02:27:090 (4) - change to a circle
02:54:967 (7) - remove
03:13:816 (1) - separate to two circles on head and tail
04:11:426 (4) - remove
Phew, looks much better now imo.
[Hard]The spacing of the first two kiais can be increased for a bit, generally good.
I assume that insane and extra are good to go =w=
Good luck~
Thx for your mod though I don't know who you are .-.Heterozygous wrote:
Hi, as requested.
Hopefully it's still in time lol.
[General]1. I don't really like the circle.png here, If you can find a picture without too many distractions in the middle that would be great. I think it looks ok here, I make the opacity of the Hitcircle.png 75% which make it not look so distractive here.
2. For the storyboard, you could be more creative on the fonts... but I'm not expecting you to start over this time, next time make sure to give it a shot. Well, this is a soft and slow song, so I don't wanna use those strange fonts, just a stadard font is ok here.
3. Sliderball and followercircle is a bit hard to read for newbies, again I'm not expecting you to change this time, just mentioning. sliderball may change here, thanks for mentioning.
[Easy]03:44:081 - Change slider velocity to 0.80 would be better if allowed. This is a slow song, it will be too slow if the SV is changed to 0.80
04:01:072 - Change sv to 1.10? Just a bit faster. Since it's an Easy diff, SV is not expected to change.
Generally good.
[Normal]First impression: it's just suffocating. Don't make "normal" players click or drag non-stop. Yes,I agree with you here Here's some suggestions to improve this:
00:27:887 (6) - change to a circle Fixed
00:28:684 - add a circle or a short slider covering the following note, it's your call A cirecle here.
00:45:675 (1) - remove No, here is a strong beat.
00:49:126 (1) - remove reverse I think a reverse fits here, no fix.
01:25:763 (4) - remove It follows the vocal.
02:01:338 (6) - remove reverse 02:01:869 A note is need here,so no fix.
02:20:187 (5) - ^ ^
02:20:984 (1) - ^ Fixed
02:27:090 (4) - change to a circle A note is needed, no fix
02:54:967 (7) - remove ^
03:13:816 (1) - separate to two circles on head and tail I think make it a slider is really creative , no fix
04:11:426 (4) - remove No fix, reason same as above.
I just make the changes on behalf of ids.
Phew, looks much better now imo.
[Hard]The spacing of the first two kiais can be increased for a bit, generally good. I make the hard diff in my own style, it only accelerates at the last kiai part.
I assume that insane and extra are good to go =w=
Good luck~
Thx for checking my map waiting for other GDers' response.Chewin wrote:
Hello! From my m4m queue (:General Stuff
- Checking Aibat I noticed there are some unused files in the storyboard. You can check them from this screen: http://puu.sh/9FirH/521251aab4.png Unused files deleted now lol
- Well. In the correct english the name of Normal diff should be ids' Normal, without the last S lol Sure and changed~
Easy
- 00:45:144 (5) - This finish sounds too loud and bad, honestly. I would change it with a whistle, instead. Much better to hear and for consistency with your whistle hitsounding pattern Sure and Changed
- 02:04:259 (3) - Honestly, I find this slider really ugly. I'd simply suggest you to make it curved to be consistent with 02:02:135 (1,2) - as well. Something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1743052 changed
- 02:57:887 (5) - New combo maybe? New vocal is starting from 02:57:356 Fixed
- 03:18:595 (5) - Same here. There is a symmetric pattern too, new combo would be pretty worth ^
- 03:20:719 (7) - Too loud whistle, remove it? I think it deserves loud whistle here since the song is going up and also loud here.
- 04:05:320 (1,2) - I know you are using a symmetric pattern but, actually, the second slider doesn't fit very good with the music. I mean, it follows nothing. What about using something like: http://puu.sh/9Fjer/54e8e874d3.jpg Yes in fact this slider is really ugly lol I redraw the slider and fix the pattern here.
Hard
- 00:13:020 (1) - Well, from here I would set some different whistles to emphasize piano sounds. Add it on this slider's head, and on this one as well 00:13:816 (4). 00:15:144 (1) - Remove it from here and add it on 00:15:940 (4)'s head. Add it on 00:17:799 (2) as well and on 00:19:392 (4)'s head. Remove the finish from 00:19:392 (4)'s tail. Loud and ugly D: I readded the hitsounds according to the piano, but not all points are the same as yours, may need a recheck here later.
- 00:35:852 (5) - NC here. Because of new rhythm and distance spacing Fixed
- 00:56:294 (1) - Whistle on the head to emphasize the piano sound I find it awesome to hear a whistle here since it's followed by a stream.Though here is a piano sound.
- 02:05:852 (7) - Remove finish on this slider's head adding it on 02:06:383 (1) to emphasize the new stanza Yes fixed
- 02:58:418 (2,2) - What about to add 2 finishes here to emphasize the vocal's end? I think they sound pretty cool! Yes really cool >.<
- 03:12:223 (6) - New combo, remove it from 03:13:285 (1) and add it on 03:13:816 (3) removing from the next circle. Fixed
- 03:14:878 (5,1) - Switch NCs. This NC pattern should confuse the players at the end. Trust me. NC should start on the first circle of the slider, not on the second one. Fixed
- 03:18:594 I don't like this hole here. Add a circle on this downbeat, there is a strong sound that needs to be mapped. Honestly, you are following so much the vocal here, and it's not that cool but well <-< Yeah I tried many times here, neither using a slider not a single circle works well because it feels realy strange lol If you can think of a nice pattern to catch this beat please tell me ;w;
- 03:26:825 (2) - What is this slider o.o this should end on the downbeat, 1/4 earlier Changed~
- 03:53:373 (1) - I don't know, this could confuse player pretty hard because the slowdown is set so suddenly considering that the slider shape is the same of the ones before. I suggest you to remove it finding a new pattern or just make a different slioder's shape to warn players about it (and maybe making it faster, this is too exaggerated imo) In fact this slowed down slider really fits this part very well because the vocal also goes slower here,and I used NC to emphasize that it's a slider with a changed speed.Though 0.5 SV seems annoying, I think it can work well here.
- 04:07:444 (8) - NC, remove it from 04:08:506 (1) and add on 04:09:568 (4) , fixing the next as well. Fixed
This mapset has a beautiful SB and very good diffs as well. But. I'm not going to bubble a diff like this Extra. Honestly, how can you map an extra for a mapset like this. I think, like I said before, an Insane diff (mapped so well by ignorethis) is already good for a song like this one. Sorry but, I don't want. This is pretty mad lol. If you even decided to remove the extra (adding it to the first post maybe) I will recheck it, but, actually, i'm totally against it. Let me know then.
I will negotiate with Ar3 and I think he may agree with removing the extra diff to the first post here. Since I can't play most Extra diffs, I can't comment much, but players really like this diff (in fact Ar3 make this diff and use it to practise single tap) I'll let you know after I asked Ar3.
all fixed.Chewin wrote:
ignore's Insane
- 02:21:648 (2) - Move this 1/4 later pl0x
- 02:52:577 (7) - Forgot whistle I guess
- 03:21:781 (5,6,7) - To make it more readable could you unstack, at least, these triple? It's really needed, please
- Woa. Ignorethis' mapping, so cool.
你以为说忙的真忙?Autumn这么跟我说,我觉得挺对的。
你以为女神说去洗澡她就真去洗澡了?
不仅如此,你再想想这两者还有什么相似性。
rank系统就是个笑话,认真图个什么呢,对这游戏
thx wwwwww all fixed~happy623 wrote:
as request to mod Easy & Hard diffu
歌好聽 Ceui ;w;General
- Taiko diff應該不能有sb吧?
- 每個難度的開始點都不一樣感覺怪怪的orz 都是GD TUT
Easy
- 基本都是nazi, 節奏沒太多問題
- 00:36:117 (5) - 這裡的flow感覺可以改一下 好
- 00:38:241 (2,3) - 看你喜不喜歡;w; 把 (2) 扭一下可以讓排列更美觀 (如果你想blanket就要把 00:37:179 (1,2,3) - 都blanket) 嗯改了>.<
- 00:41:427 (1,2) - 感覺(1)可以扭圓點 好
- 00:49:923 (1) - 把滑條的角在重疊在slidertick能夠更加把音樂裡的tick突出, 除了這個之外可以看看整個diff其他類似的滑條考慮改不改好
- 00:55:232 (2) - ;w; 感覺直線放這裡有點單調, 試著扭一下? 嗯扭了;w;
- 01:13:285 (3) - 尾巴加個whistle ok
- 01:14:347 (4) - 可以考慮加個whistle, 因為音樂這裡漸大, 加whistle實在點(? 加了~
- 01:20:719 (2) - offscreen了, test的時候碰到血條不太好 改了ww
- 01:53:639 (1) - 刪NC? 感覺不用太多 好
- 02:08:506 (1) - ^, 這裡基本都是每2節一個NC 嗯
- 02:15:940 (2,3,4,1) - 這裡突然由鼓點換人聲, 一般都會難抓, 建議跟著鼓點 : (就刪掉(4), (3)移一移位換拆返, 再縮短(1)) 改了节奏;w;
- 02:28:684 (2) - 太高了;w; fixed
- 02:40:365 (1) - ^ ^
- 02:42:489 (3) - 如果你在 01:13:285 (3) - 加了whistle, 這裡也加一個~ 加了
- 02:43:551 (4) - ^ ^
- 02:56:825 (4) - 建議在這裡的尾巴跟 02:58:418 (2) - 尾巴都插個finish ok
- 03:13:816 (4) - 漏了whistle 补上了~
- 03:44:081 (1,2,1,2) - 不介意可以扭一下它們 現在有點單調 嗯改了
- 03:56:824 (1) - 尾巴加finish, 音樂裡有 好
- 03:56:824 (1,2) - 這種1/2比較難抓, 可以試試這樣: ok
- 03:58:948 (2,3) - 這裡聽音樂的話 03:59:744 - 的音明顯更重, 你可以刪掉(3)再把(2)拉長拆返 : 好
- 04:07:443 (2,3,4) - 同樣感覺難抓 : ^
- 04:14:877 (1) - 尾巴漏finish了;w; ;w;
Hard
- 可以考慮放點跳就是了, 還有一點跟vocal漏了鼓聲;w; 一开始做的时候我是全程1.2ds orz… 然后其实我是特别倾向于跟vocal的;w;
- 00:32:666 (1) - 刪NC 換 00:32:931 (3) - NC, 前面的你也是跟住了白線NC 嗯
- 01:03:462 (3) - 太高了orz 改啦
- 01:30:277 (9) - finish ok
- 02:04:790 (4,8) - 可以疊的更好? 嗯
- 02:56:560 (6,7,8) - 這裡可以放的更好啊, 移一下(7) 做個小跳也好 好~
- 02:57:887 - 這裡加個note吧, 藍線一般也難抓0 0 好
- 03:01:072 - ^ ^
- 03:07:312 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 前面的hitsound不錯的, 後面這裡就突然沒了;w; ;w;加了
- 03:22:710 (3) - 放上點flow好點 ok
- 03:53:373 (1) - sv換的怪怪;w; 既然這裡有, 為什麼不在 03:55:497 (5,6) - 再放一個? 不怪呀;w; 后面也加了www
- 03:56:824 (3,4) - 漏了finish ok
- 03:58:948 (3) - ^ ^
- 04:12:222 (3,4,5) - 把(4)放在2個的正中間吧 QAQ居然没调好
加油 嗯嗯>.<
Edit : 有什麼不懂就問我吧;w; 很希望能rank
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thx nearly all fixed384059043 wrote:
妈的军训动员会迟到半个多小时 同学都出来了我才刚准备进去 写论文buff消失uccu
好吧其实是懒得写论文了 就点一点吧 好
04:32:930 - 转盘缩短1/4加一个note 就这个没改 因为不知道note加哪里 心下面的话会遮挡 放上面的话不美观
送mod 骗一分 加油
2014-08-26 23:45 Fycho: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/396535 Ceui - Kaze no Naka no Primrose [Easy]]
2014-08-26 23:46 Fycho: 00:11:693 (1) - 头上whistle
2014-08-26 23:46 Fycho: 00:13:816 - ^
2014-08-26 23:46 Fycho: 几个都类似,大白线
2014-08-26 23:47 Fycho: 00:15:144 (4) - 这里从3到4flow别扭,而且00:13:816 (3,1) - 这两者组合看很难看
2014-08-26 23:47 examination: 好 都加了
2014-08-26 23:47 Fycho: 我给个建议
2014-08-26 23:48 Fycho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969452
2014-08-26 23:49 Fycho: 要说的东西很多 我加快说了行不?
2014-08-26 23:50 Fycho: 来不及一边说你一边改了 你先看着 然后说怎么样就好
2014-08-26 23:51 examination: 好
2014-08-26 23:51 Fycho: 00:20:188 (1,2) - 这两者组合起来看很不好看,2你得复制1,然后旋转180°
2014-08-26 23:52 Fycho: 不要强迫blanket,不要刻意去blanket,有的时候这样做了就变味的别扭
2014-08-26 23:52 Fycho: blanket的本意是让图更美观,物件之间的联系度加深
2014-08-26 23:52 examination: 好
2014-08-26 23:53 examination: .-.
2014-08-26 23:53 examination: 因为我最初收到的mod都是blanket类
2014-08-26 23:53 examination: 所以这个图里面基本全变成这样子了
2014-08-26 23:53 Fycho: 这就不对了
2014-08-26 23:53 Fycho: 你的所有blanket都是不对的
2014-08-26 23:53 Fycho: 就像hard里的00:11:693 (1,2) -
2014-08-26 23:54 Fycho: 所以说现在新手modder在blanket害人。。。
2014-08-26 23:54 examination: .-.
2014-08-26 23:54 examination: 我记得原来我不是这么摆的
2014-08-26 23:54 examination: 不过我也忘了orz
2014-08-26 23:54 Fycho: 短滑条别那么弯
2014-08-26 23:55 Fycho: 话说你这easy和hard得好好改改,没质量的话我想kpy也不会给泡吧233
2014-08-26 23:55 Fycho: easy还好 特别是hard
2014-08-26 23:55 examination: 。-。
2014-08-26 23:55 examination: hard我已经大改过了欸
2014-08-26 23:55 Fycho: 还有别死跟人声
2014-08-26 23:55 Fycho: 这是新手最容易犯的错误之一
2014-08-26 23:55 Fycho: hard你跟人声有点死板
2014-08-26 23:55 Fycho: 这先放一边 还是说easy
2014-08-26 23:55 examination: 我后来改的时候尽量跟的不多了
2014-08-26 23:57 Fycho: 00:28:684 (1,2) -
2014-08-26 23:57 Fycho: 难看
2014-08-26 23:57 Fycho: 你自己看了不觉得难看吗?
2014-08-26 23:57 Fycho: 00:28:684 (1) - 往下移点,和前面的00:26:825 (3) - 更有联系性
2014-08-26 23:57 Fycho: 00:28:684 (1) - (250,356)
2014-08-26 23:57 examination: 好 改了
2014-08-26 23:58 Fycho: 说错了,应该是(247,349)
2014-08-26 23:58 Fycho: 嘛都差不多 大概就那个位置
2014-08-26 23:58 Fycho: 别太下出界了
2014-08-26 23:59 Fycho: 00:29:480 (2) -
2014-08-26 23:59 Fycho: 这个
2014-08-27 00:00 examination: 我重新画了slider
2014-08-27 00:00 Fycho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969505
2014-08-27 00:00 Fycho: 这是建议 你重画也行
2014-08-27 00:00 examination: 唔
2014-08-27 00:00 Fycho: 不过你得别画的还是丑的
2014-08-27 00:00 examination: 我重画的那个图还没传上去
2014-08-27 00:01 examination: 应该比这个好
2014-08-27 00:01 Fycho: 00:32:931 (1) - 这个换成凹形的
2014-08-27 00:01 Fycho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969513
2014-08-27 00:02 Fycho: 不仅顺flow,而且适合音乐里音调降低
2014-08-27 00:02 examination: http://puu.sh/b8JBV/d332dddee5.png
2014-08-27 00:02 Fycho: 00:33:993 (2) - 这个随着1改而改
2014-08-27 00:02 Fycho: 恩你这样也行
2014-08-27 00:03 Fycho: 00:31:604 (4) - 不过这个也得用个红点滑条比较号
2014-08-27 00:03 examination: ok改好了
2014-08-27 00:04 examination: 嗯 那里也改了
2014-08-27 00:04 Fycho: 00:37:179 (1,2,3) - 这个
2014-08-27 00:04 Fycho: 你得让三个的之间的夹角一样
2014-08-27 00:04 examination: 好
2014-08-27 00:04 Fycho: 你现在1和2大约90°,2到3明显不是
2014-08-27 00:05 Fycho: 这些虽然是排列,但是排列美观的nazi对图整体很重要
2014-08-27 00:06 examination: 好了
2014-08-27 00:06 Fycho: 00:42:489 (2,3) - ctrl+g?
2014-08-27 00:07 Fycho: 00:48:861 (4) - 顺时针稍微转一点,10度左右
2014-08-27 00:08 examination: 好
2014-08-27 00:08 Fycho: 00:48:861 (4,1) - 这俩完全没必要刻意blanket
2014-08-27 00:08 Fycho: 00:49:923 (1) - 这是新起的一小节,顺着00:49:923 (1) - 尾巴摆就行
2014-08-27 00:08 Fycho: blanket的flow怪怪的
2014-08-27 00:08 examination: k
2014-08-27 00:09 Fycho: 01:19:657 (1,2) - 难看
2014-08-27 00:10 Fycho: 01:20:719 (2,3) - 这要包还没包好,我建议还是别包了
2014-08-27 00:10 examination: 不包了 我移一下
2014-08-27 00:12 Fycho: 1和2换梗
2014-08-27 00:12 Fycho: 01:21:781 (3,4) - 这两也别包
2014-08-27 00:13 Fycho: 4放3的尾巴处偏上一点就行
2014-08-27 00:13 Fycho: 01:21:781 (3,4,1) - 这三个整体看flow是不好的,你把01:23:905 (1) - 改成凸的看看?
2014-08-27 00:13 examination: 这边都改完了233
2014-08-27 00:14 Fycho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969570
2014-08-27 00:15 Fycho: 01:28:153 (1,2,3) - 类似的丑梗 不想说了
2014-08-27 00:15 examination: http://puu.sh/b8KsF/2227d4bb88.png
2014-08-27 00:15 Fycho: 1和2形状不一样,2和3刻意blanket,三者flow不顺
2014-08-27 00:16 Fycho: 少用那个奇怪形状的滑条
2014-08-27 00:16 Fycho: 3
2014-08-27 00:16 examination: 唔
2014-08-27 00:16 examination: 好
2014-08-27 00:17 Fycho: 01:51:516 (2) - 出界
2014-08-27 00:17 Fycho: 这里整体向上移
2014-08-27 00:17 Fycho: 02:00:006 (3,4,1) - 角度怎么看怎么怪
2014-08-27 00:18 Fycho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969589
2014-08-27 00:19 Fycho: 02:18:591 (1) - 节奏没对上
2014-08-27 00:19 Fycho: 节奏问题就是比较严重的了
2014-08-27 00:20 Fycho: http://puu.sh/b8KNM/e911a80ba6.jpg
2014-08-27 00:20 Fycho: 试试这种
2014-08-27 00:21 examination: ok
2014-08-27 00:22 Fycho: 02:31:865 (1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969605
2014-08-27 00:22 Fycho: 注意flow多样化
2014-08-27 00:23 Fycho: 别老是一个方向绕啊绕的
2014-08-27 00:23 Fycho: 绕了不觉得有强迫症心里不舒服吗23333
2014-08-27 00:24 examination: 改好了 。-。
2014-08-27 00:25 examination: 不过hard里面一直都是绕啊绕的.-.
2014-08-27 00:27 Fycho: 对
2014-08-27 00:28 Fycho: 02:48:856 (1,2,3) - 这里节奏最好改成和02:44:608 (1,2,3,4) - 差不多的 统一下
2014-08-27 00:29 Fycho: 02:58:413 (2) - 左右对称pls
2014-08-27 00:29 Fycho: 这一个特别突出
2014-08-27 00:31 examination: ok
2014-08-27 00:33 examination: 改好了
2014-08-27 00:33 Fycho: 04:16:470 (2) - 这个完全可以放到上面去吧
2014-08-27 00:33 examination: 嗯队
2014-08-27 00:33 Fycho: 记住作图一定要从flow舒适度上着手,而不是从blanket上着手
2014-08-27 00:33 Fycho: blanekt毁图
2014-08-27 00:33 Fycho: 比较过分
2014-08-27 00:33 Fycho: 好了
2014-08-27 00:33 Fycho: 音效我就没看了
2014-08-27 00:34 Fycho: 下面来说hard啊
2014-08-27 00:34 examination: .-.好
2014-08-27 00:34 examination: 嗯
2014-08-27 00:36 Fycho: 其实你easy开始可以加个转盘的
2014-08-27 00:36 Fycho: .=.
2014-08-27 00:36 examination: 啊好
2014-08-27 00:36 examination: 我去加(
2014-08-27 00:38 Fycho: hard00:13:020 (1,4) - 这些NC不对啊
2014-08-27 00:38 Fycho: 00:13:816 (4) - 应该加这
2014-08-27 00:38 Fycho: 大白线
2014-08-27 00:38 Fycho: 当然只是建议
2014-08-27 00:39 Fycho: 00:15:940 (4,5,6) - 最好等距下
2014-08-27 00:39 Fycho: hard
2014-08-27 00:39 examination: 顺带后面弄了下
2014-08-27 00:39 Fycho: hard你的1/4节奏太多了 还有难度不怎么合适
2014-08-27 00:40 examination: 啊这个ds
2014-08-27 00:40 examination: 是384让我改的 .-.
2014-08-27 00:40 examination: 还有后面好多变ds的
2014-08-27 00:40 examination: 我调整型
2014-08-27 00:40 examination: 下
2014-08-27 00:40 Fycho: 好那就变ds
2014-08-27 00:40 Fycho: 没大影响
2014-08-27 00:41 examination: 没事
2014-08-27 00:41 examination: 我改个stack
2014-08-27 00:41 Fycho: 00:20:454 (2,3,4,5) - 这种形状
2014-08-27 00:41 Fycho: 不用再说了把
2014-08-27 00:41 Fycho: 00:19:392 (4) - 往下移,顺着1,2,3的轨迹
2014-08-27 00:42 Fycho: (101,218)
2014-08-27 00:43 Fycho: hard主要说节奏了,排列就不说了,和easy几乎一样的问题, 不浪费时间了
2014-08-27 00:43 examination: 唔好
2014-08-27 00:44 Fycho: 00:21:250 (5) -
2014-08-27 00:44 Fycho: 这里没音
2014-08-27 00:45 Fycho: 你要跟乐器的话,00:20:985 - 这里起一个长话滑条就行,跟人声的话请统一节奏,从00:21:117 - 起3/4滑条
2014-08-27 00:45 Fycho: 任选一个 我倾向于跟人声,毕竟只跟乐器节奏有点简单了 像normal了233
2014-08-27 00:45 examination: ok
2014-08-27 00:45 Fycho: 跟人声 双连
2014-08-27 00:46 examination: 嗯
2014-08-27 00:47 Fycho: 00:23:241 (4,5) - 类似
2014-08-27 00:47 Fycho: 00:23:108 (3,4,5) - 恩
2014-08-27 00:47 Fycho: 你可以适当做点变化,比如前面用http://puu.sh/b8MEX/80ce0e9e50.jpg
2014-08-27 00:48 Fycho: 后面用http://puu.sh/b8MGT/79ad288e4a.jpg
2014-08-27 00:48 Fycho: 这样不单调
2014-08-27 00:48 Fycho: 同样的节奏,不同的circle 滑条组合
2014-08-27 00:49 examination: ok
2014-08-27 00:50 Fycho: 00:24:170 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 排列别太拘在一块
2014-08-27 00:50 Fycho: 这个怎么说呢 感觉很难说
2014-08-27 00:50 Fycho: 这个不一定要改
2014-08-27 00:50 Fycho: 但是你将来作图的时候注意一下,还要多看别人图来学习flow走势,这是基本功
2014-08-27 00:51 Fycho: 00:25:763 (4,5,1,2) - 各种overlap 很不整洁
2014-08-27 00:52 Fycho: 00:25:763 (4,5,1,2) - flow也不顺,我还是第一次看到用串子包滑条头的....
2014-08-27 00:52 Fycho: 00:28:153 (2,3,4,1,2) - 等间距,这个强烈建议要等
2014-08-27 00:53 Fycho: 00:32:135 (4) - 少用红线起的1/2滑条
2014-08-27 00:53 Fycho: 白线是重音,重音有打击感 符合人体工学美学
2014-08-27 00:54 Fycho: 这些都是作图基础只是啊
2014-08-27 00:54 Fycho: 知识*
2014-08-27 00:54 examination: 好
2014-08-27 00:55 Fycho: 00:32:799 (6) - 去掉
2014-08-27 00:55 Fycho: overmap
2014-08-27 00:58 Fycho: 00:37:976 (3,4,5,6) - 这种类似的,都可以整合为http://puu.sh/b8NoU/c2d7cae1c8.jpg
2014-08-27 00:58 Fycho: 更自然
2014-08-27 01:01 Fycho: 我掉线了米?
2014-08-27 01:02 examination: 没
2014-08-27 01:02 examination: 在改后面的pattern
2014-08-27 01:03 Fycho: 00:34:790 (1,2) - 这两个交换NC
2014-08-27 01:03 Fycho: 而且你这个梗排布不合理
2014-08-27 01:04 Fycho: 00:34:790 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个无论如何都算不到一组啊
2014-08-27 01:04 Fycho: 00:35:055 - 从这里开始数四个算一组还说得过去
2014-08-27 01:04 examination: 这个啊
2014-08-27 01:04 examination: 最开始我摆的是一个六边形
2014-08-27 01:04 examination: 后来不知道怎么就改成这样了zzz
2014-08-27 01:06 Fycho: 00:43:020 (5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 感受一下
2014-08-27 01:06 Fycho: 顺时针の力
2014-08-27 01:06 Fycho: 除了顺时针就没变过flow
2014-08-27 01:07 Fycho: 一般变flow方向的地方是小节起始处
2014-08-27 01:07 examination: 我记得后面还有疯狂逆时针转的.-.
2014-08-27 01:07 examination: 四暗刻
2014-08-27 01:07 Fycho: 起始说实话你这图和小船去年的flow几乎没两样,当时我跟小船也说了半天,他也花了好久突破这个了
2014-08-27 01:08 Fycho: 我要不要把船业黑历史给你欣赏下?
2014-08-27 01:08 examination: .-.
2014-08-27 01:08 Fycho: 很多就像瓶颈一样
2014-08-27 01:08 examination: 先把这个改完111
2014-08-27 01:08 examination: 我伪恋那个的感觉应该没这个重(
2014-08-27 01:09 Fycho: kpy说的没错啊,你需要一些mod先,而不是check或者icon
2014-08-27 01:09 Fycho: 所以他怕你找不到mod,所以他帮你找了
2014-08-27 01:09 examination: 嗯._.
2014-08-27 01:09 Fycho: 他是一个好人
2014-08-27 01:09 examination: 不过整体的mod
2014-08-27 01:09 examination: 还是找不到几个的orz
2014-08-27 01:09 Fycho: 从细小的地方
2014-08-27 01:09 Fycho: 到整体
2014-08-27 01:10 Fycho: 不废话了继续
2014-08-27 01:10 examination: 好
2014-08-27 01:10 Fycho: 这种一个方向绕的 得好好改改
2014-08-27 01:11 Fycho: 00:48:330 (2,3) - 交换节奏
2014-08-27 01:12 Fycho: 更好的跟人声
2014-08-27 01:12 Fycho: 00:52:312 (2,3,4) - 红线起的1/2滑条,不合适
2014-08-27 01:12 Fycho: 00:52:312 - 红线更何况都没音
2014-08-27 01:13 Fycho: 00:54:170 (1,2,3) - 这里的节奏也不对,这里00:54:569 (2) - 为啥要用1/4
2014-08-27 01:13 Fycho: 00:54:701 - 白线是没音的
2014-08-27 01:13 Fycho: http://puu.sh/b8OuU/d017eef15d.jpg直接跟鼓点
2014-08-27 01:15 Fycho: 00:51:781 (1) - 细点,这个1/4折返也是overmap的,蓝线00:51:914 - 上没音
2014-08-27 01:16 Fycho: 01:00:409 (6) - 去掉
2014-08-27 01:16 Fycho: 别overmap
2014-08-27 01:16 Fycho: 或者换句话说 overmap要合理 适当,像basara那种就可以
2014-08-27 01:17 Fycho: 当然那要很强的编曲能力
2014-08-27 01:18 examination: 00:54:170 (1,2,3) - 这里节奏对的
2014-08-27 01:18 Fycho: 恩 其实白线的音很弱
2014-08-27 01:18 Fycho: 你这样也可以
2014-08-27 01:19 examination: 这里跟后面那个part一样的
2014-08-27 01:19 examination: 应该没问题
2014-08-27 01:19 Fycho: 00:57:887 (8,1,2) - flow
2014-08-27 01:20 Fycho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969801
2014-08-27 01:22 examination: ok
2014-08-27 01:24 Fycho: 01:00:940 (2,3) - 这里节奏可以重组下 ,更舒服http://puu.sh/b8PhL/0e69a76824.jpg
2014-08-27 01:24 Fycho: 也避免了1/4 spam
2014-08-27 01:25 Fycho: 老01:05:055 (2,3,4,5) - 像这个,你2和3是跟人声的,然后4又跟鼓了,
2014-08-27 01:25 Fycho: 突然的shift
2014-08-27 01:25 Fycho: 造成了不好的感觉
2014-08-27 01:25 Fycho: 如果要跟鼓,01:05:321 - 这不可忽略
2014-08-27 01:26 Fycho: 跟人声的话01:05:719 (4) - 去掉
2014-08-27 01:26 Fycho: 跟人声的话这个整个kiai都要这么做了
2014-08-27 01:26 Fycho: 01:09:834 (3,4) - 合并成一个滑条,像01:07:710 (4) -
2014-08-27 01:27 Fycho: 你前面人声后面鼓点 没统一性...
2014-08-27 01:27 Fycho: 01:10:365 (1) - 而且这个红线滑条也能修改了
2014-08-27 01:29 Fycho: 我建议你感受下整个kiai的鼓点轨,就是耳朵只听鼓点,忽略其他一切音轨的影响
2014-08-27 01:29 Fycho: 然后只听人声
2014-08-27 01:29 Fycho: 这样可以找到规律
2014-08-27 01:29 Fycho: 鼓点里的三连 位置都是一样的
2014-08-27 01:29 examination: 好
2014-08-27 01:30 Fycho: 01:02:400 - 这种是人声三连; 01:03:462 - 01:03:728 是鼓点三连
2014-08-27 01:31 Fycho: 01:03:462 (3) - 你这个滑条是跟的人声 很明显
2014-08-27 01:31 Fycho: 没有人声的地方可以跟鼓点下连打,01:11:958 (4,5,6) - 这个节奏下的就没问题
2014-08-27 01:32 Fycho: 01:13:816 (3,4,5,6,7) - 从3到7的flow很不好
2014-08-27 01:33 Fycho: 我发现你的所有连打5,6,7间距也没必要那么大
2014-08-27 01:33 Fycho: 01:16:073 (5) - 去掉
2014-08-27 01:34 Fycho: http://puu.sh/b8Q0R/8eb8234019.jpg 01:16:206 - 这里
2014-08-27 01:34 examination: 这个是照着kpy书的改的(
2014-08-27 01:34 examination: 唔
2014-08-27 01:34 Fycho: kpy说的哪一点
2014-08-27 01:34 Fycho: 给我看看
2014-08-27 01:35 examination: 01:13:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2014-08-27 01:35 examination: 这个
2014-08-27 01:35 Fycho: 等我看下他的mod
2014-08-27 01:35 examination: hao
2014-08-27 01:35 Fycho: 在哪
2014-08-27 01:36 Fycho: 好 那就保留
2014-08-27 01:37 Fycho: 01:21:781 (3) - 我建议改成1/2啊
2014-08-27 01:37 Fycho: 不要太滥用3/4
2014-08-27 01:37 Fycho: 01:22:710 (5) - 最好去掉 前面1/4的节奏有点多了
2014-08-27 01:38 Fycho: “跟人声”
2014-08-27 01:39 Fycho: 01:25:232 (6,7) - 这种梗hard里似乎有点蛋疼
2014-08-27 01:39 Fycho: 同样这是鼓点里的三连
2014-08-27 01:39 Fycho: 01:25:763 (1) - 换成一个note,不要overmap01:25:896 - 这没音,nc加到01:26:029 - 来
2014-08-27 01:40 Fycho: 01:28:153 (7,1) - 这两合并为1/1滑条,把01:28:153 - 这个重音吐出来
2014-08-27 01:40 Fycho: 突出来*
2014-08-27 01:40 Fycho: nc加在大白线!
2014-08-27 01:41 Fycho: 01:28:153 (7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - NC乱
2014-08-27 01:41 Fycho: 01:31:073 (1,2) - 这个方向可以换一个,或者放到右边去 凹凸改改
2014-08-27 01:41 Fycho: 别再逆时针转了0.0
2014-08-27 01:41 Fycho: 这个与前面有空白的 联系不紧密
2014-08-27 01:42 Fycho: 别往同一个方向上顺
2014-08-27 01:43 examination: ok
2014-08-27 01:43 Fycho: 01:57:883 - 02:06:113 - 这里可以跟跟鼓点 而不是人声
2014-08-27 01:43 Fycho: 因为全曲几乎都是跟人声,而这里在歌曲里比较独一无二 所以跟鼓点以突出
2014-08-27 01:45 examination: 好 我试试
2014-08-27 01:45 Fycho: http://puu.sh/b8QOI/e27b05e74b.jpg
2014-08-27 01:46 Fycho: 01:58:944 - 跟军鼓,不跟人声01:58:812 -
2014-08-27 01:46 Fycho: 只是举个例子
2014-08-27 01:46 Fycho: 后面的一些同样 注意变化性
2014-08-27 01:46 Fycho: 02:08:236 (6) - nc是不是美丽
2014-08-27 01:48 Fycho: 第二段kiai没什么想说的了
2014-08-27 01:49 Fycho: 03:04:785 (1,2,3) - 跟鼓点,03:05:449 (1) - 跟人声,又急转弯
2014-08-27 01:50 examination: 这里我觉得没事啊
2014-08-27 01:50 Fycho: 03:05:449 - 这里开始我建议remake
2014-08-27 01:50 Fycho: 下
2014-08-27 01:50 Fycho: 这里跟人声下了太多的1/4 hard里偏多
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: 03:13:944 (2) - 比如这些啊
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: 都是多余的
2014-08-27 01:51 examination: 唔
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: remake的话注意这点
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: 人声鼓点串轨
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: 这一段
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: 导致不知道在跟什么
2014-08-27 01:51 Fycho: 至少我是这么认为的
2014-08-27 01:52 Fycho: 其他人有其他人的想法 你不改也没问题,毕竟不force
2014-08-27 01:52 examination: 我这一段的话 不打算改了.-.
2014-08-27 01:53 Fycho: 03:48:328 (1,2,3,4) - 左右对称?
2014-08-27 01:53 Fycho: 03:50:452 (1,2,3,4) - ^
2014-08-27 01:53 Fycho: 03:58:682 (2,3,4) - 三连等间距pls...
2014-08-27 01:53 Fycho: 04:00:806 - 至少这最后一段kiai别突然这么难
2014-08-27 01:53 examination: 好
2014-08-27 01:53 Fycho: 这种1/4分开的
2014-08-27 01:54 Fycho: 在hard里面是十分难读难打的
2014-08-27 01:54 Fycho: 你1/4的间距这么大
2014-08-27 01:54 Fycho: 但是这需要在1/2间距足够大到支撑这里况下
2014-08-27 01:55 Fycho: 一般1/2和1/4的ds一样就是1/4偏大了
2014-08-27 01:55 Fycho: 04:14:611 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - hard里太难了