Re-Congrats >_>
Riince wrote:
and now we wait for the next problem that could have been brought up earlier but is being saved as ammunition just in case it got re-qualified
I think map is perfect now.TicClick wrote:
%1/3 stuff% Should be the only thing that has to be changed.
Just give it a day or two.F1r3tar wrote:
I didn't expect a rerank so soon; congrats.
Human ? being able to play at that speed? ah. ah . aaahaha. come on get real. You know what each person is capable of ? I doubt that.Kyubey wrote:
Lol, don't even try, replacing 1/8 things (if they even exist, because I don't think human can play with that speed) with 1/4 ones is totally legit.
noone can play 1/8 240 bpm im sorry to inform youNtasuto wrote:
Human ? being able to play at that speed? ah. ah . aaahaha. come on get real. You know what each person is capable of ? I doubt that.Kyubey wrote:
Lol, don't even try, replacing 1/8 things (if they even exist, because I don't think human can play with that speed) with 1/4 ones is totally legit.
The beats are clearly 1/8 whether the player can do it or not. Use sliders then if you believe that noone can play do 1/8.
And i bet you started spouting nonsense without even checking my push. Will wait for a QAT.
looks like i wasn't overestimatingRiince wrote:
maybe, i guess im just overestimating how bitter some people can be, i sure hope so.
I was talking about drummer/guitarist.Ntasuto wrote:
player
Show it to me.Ntasuto wrote:
nonsense
You can wait as long as you want, using 1/4 instead of 1/8 is totally legit.Ntasuto wrote:
Will wait for a QAT
I was talking about drummer/guitarist.Still. there are drummers/guitarists that can play even faster than this and don't forget , we live in 2015, music can be edited in many ways ( you know, using a PC ? ). So your point is still not valid.
Show it to me.
Lol, don't even try, replacing 1/8 things (if they even exist, because I don't think human can play with that speed) with 1/4 ones is totally legit.this whole sentence
You can wait as long as you want, using 1/4 instead of 1/8 is totally legit.I will.
But there's no nonsense. The whole part was edited with TicClick and Ekoro and they decided to use 1/4 there. Using 1/8 would make rhythm unnecessary complicated.Ntasuto wrote:
this whole sentence
Kyubey wrote:
But there's no nonsense. The whole part was edited with TicClick and Ekoro and they decided to use 1/4 there. Using 1/8 would make rhythm unnecessary complicated.Ntasuto wrote:
this whole sentence
It's just complicated for mapper and he decided to make that rhythm easier, there's nothing wrong, this is his way to map it and it's totally allowed.Ntasuto wrote:
complicated for who
So you mean that when a mapper says " I want my map ranked as it is coz it's my way of mapping " you just say ok , no problem !Kyubey wrote:
It's just complicated for mapper and he decided to make that rhythm easier, there's nothing wrong, this is his way to map it and it's totally allowed.Ntasuto wrote:
complicated for who
Yes, I just check if there is no unrankable issues and then rank it.Ntasuto wrote:
So you mean that when a mapper says " I want my map ranked as it is coz it's my way of mapping " you just say ok , no problem !
Why would I force mapper to add some excess stuff if he doesn't want to?Ntasuto wrote:
And instead of helping the mapper with the complicated parts, you tell him to maps it the way he can , so you avoid the fuss . right ?
Because he wanted. And he wanted to make it hard without adding unnecessary things like 1/8 notes. What's wrong?Ntasuto wrote:
If this is complicated for the mapper why would he create a 7.65 star map in the first place? There is the lunatic and extra. He wanted to make something even harder.
Simply because most of these 1/4 notes DO NOT exists in the song , its clearly 1/8!Kyubey wrote:
Why would I force mapper to add some excess stuff if he doesn't want to?
TicClick with Ekoro decided to use 1/4 there, because it follows song much better instead of complicated mix of 1/8 and other things, that means 1/4 is the best decision there confirmed by respected and experienced QAT, and this won't be changed.Ntasuto wrote:
Simply because most of these 1/4 notes DO NOT exists in the song , its clearly 1/8!
How does something that doesn't even exist follows the song. It doesn't belong in the song, it means that you create your own rhythm. How is this even acceptable when there is obviously a solution to it ? There are so many complicated maps out there using various mixes of 1/2 1/4 1/8 that noone has any issue with them. Why is this an exception ?Kyubey wrote:
TicClick with Ekoro decided to use 1/4 there, because it follows song much better instead of complicated mix of 1/8 and other things, that means 1/4 is the best decision there confirmed by respected and experienced QAT, and this won't be changed.Ntasuto wrote:
Simply because most of these 1/4 notes DO NOT exists in the song , its clearly 1/8!
Because QAT decided that will be the best way to follow these sounds without making complicated rhythm.Ntasuto wrote:
Why is this an exception ?
This will make map better. If you still want to argue, try to argue about it with TicClick, if you don't believe me.Ntasuto wrote:
How is this even acceptable when there is obviously a solution to it ?
Minakami Yuki wrote:
Map should be designed not only following the beats, but also considering for playing.
Aka wrote:
i think everyone already got that kyubey and ntasuto has different points of view. now we can at least try to calm down and wait for a little bit, to see what others think about this 1/8 statement.
like, i dont feel comfortable with 1/8 yellow notes, i just cant. you are talking about other maps, okay, what are "others"? which? show them, please. noone of undead corporation songs has such stuff you want to do here. and noone other streamy songs has something like streams on yellow 1/8s at !240! bpm. prove me if i am wrong, i want to see it
also i am pretty much surprised you didnt contact directly the mapper and telling all of this to us, in the thread NOW. no one else as the person who mapped this set can explain you why he did this and doesnt want that
this is maybe the best thing i read so far since the time i said that 1/8 notes/sliders should be used instead of 1/4 that is now.Jenny wrote:
Wait are we actually talking about 240BPM 1/8?
If it's stacks of 3, sure - it's kind of an edge case but I can see it work out if integrated well.
If it's stacks of 5, maybe - needs even more proper integration and structure to not feel totally awful; alternatively, you could use a 3*1/8 kickslider into a jump to the next object, that gets similar intensity timingwise without breaking everything through the sheer speed of buttonmashing.
tl;dr 1/8 (notes or gaps) are not /bad/, but they certainly need a lot of consideration and experience to work with properly