Meg & Dia - Monster (DotEXE Remix) [Osu|Taiko|CatchTheBeat|O · forum

mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-04-03T02:33:10+00:00

mingmichael wrote:
thanks for mods~

m1ng's Rain

you haven't updated my latest diff, nold >.<

Ulysses

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Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

Ulysses 2014-04-03T05:55:20+00:00

mingmichael wrote:
mingmichael wrote:
thanks for mods~

m1ng's Rain
you haven't updated my latest diff, nold >.<

Ahh sorry,updated now

General
◾AiMod said, missing http://puu.sh/7TarY.png

>>Waiting for happy623 to repair

happy623

1,436 posts

Joined April 2010

happy623 2014-04-03T07:51:23+00:00

fixed

Ulysses

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Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

Ulysses 2014-04-03T08:50:45+00:00

updated

-xNaCLx-

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Joined April 2012

-xNaCLx- 2014-04-03T09:42:18+00:00

- R u m i a - wrote:
[Generals]
sorry late /.\
i think offset is 182 ( correct me if i am wrong )
i just tested taiko and mania diffs .it is more accurate on 182

i have no exp in modding taiko just a little suggestion after i played though .. dont mad at me /.\
[NC's oni]
00:28:257 - add k , i think its better to catch the next rhythm i prefer keeping it as diplet
00:29:971 - add d , its kinda strong beat i think wut 0.0 there isn't even a beat
00:33:400 - add k like previous ^
i like this diff owo)b

nth else to suggest , just played this 2 diff ( sorry i just give suggestion cuz i play taiko for fun sometimes hehe)

Mintong wrote:
Hey no kd

[NC's Inner Oni]

00:04:793 (11) - I suggest k here, because I didn't hear any low-pitch sound here. actually the d is an extra-note..and i prefer to keep it different from the next note.
00:18:186 (55) - k, It sound weird if you put d at clap-beat...
00:21:614 (69) - ^ fixed in my way similar to muzu
01:34:900 (546) - k, it sound like connect "k-to" to "k-the" and "01:35:328 (549) - k- win". prefer keeping it opposite to kdk~
Great, I like it.

Good Luck~

thanks for mod

updated version(muzu included as i found something that should have been fixed but not)

Chewin

osu! Alumni

4,082 posts

Joined December 2010

Chewin 2014-04-03T10:01:17+00:00

wow nold how did you find so much mods *o*
Thank you for your mods, guys:

SPOILER

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Ulysses

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Topic Starter

Ulysses 2014-04-03T10:46:18+00:00

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Sun Rainbow

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Sun Rainbow 2014-04-04T11:41:54+00:00

好图好SB 很赞的想法 625+nold=神上加神加油~

Yuzeyun

7,622 posts

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2014-04-04T19:14:29+00:00

Continuing the mod even though there are new diffs (well one got to Inner and the other popped out)

[ming's Oni]
00:16:043 (1) - Where you try to combine vocal and drumming, I think here this should be a d - the pitch of the vocal gradually decreases (it's barely noticeable compared to 00:15:614 (1) - ), and changing back to k makes it feel weird and breaks a bit your patterning.
00:20:328 (1) - A D here feels weird despite being totally justified.
00:22:900 (1) - Same as 00:16:043 (1) - !
00:40:900 (1) - A small suggestion here, if you want to emphasize the swooshing-idkhowtosay sound, just put it K instead ?
00:53:543 (1) - k ? I think continuing 00:52:471 (1,1,2) - to 00:53:328 (1,1,1) - would play better as this is literally the same sound 7 times in a row.
01:07:257 (1) - Maybe map it instead of a denden ? I think you can play on note pitching, as you've done before.
01:08:757 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Wrong timeline snapping - the song is not 1/3. Use 1/4 instead !
01:34:686 (1) - Same as 01:07:257 (1) - .

I think this diff is really polished - all individual notes are just suggestions, but there's that 6-note sequence that needs to be fixed. Other than that, it is very solid.

[NC's Inner Oni]
00:17:757 (52,53,54,55) - Make at least 55 a k due to it being the lone snare as a don - but I propose two patterns. Either you make a kdd k, or a k ddk - the second one would play better and follow more your sequence. (00:16:043 (45,46,47,48) - and 00:19:471 (59,60,61,62) - ) Both patterns are correct song-wise.
00:27:936 (99,100,101,102) - I found it a bit awkward to play, your emphasis is pretty weird, I think echoing the d at 00:28:043 (100) - on 00:28:257 - would play better than your current echoing at 00:28:364 (101) - .
00:31:364 (119,120,121,122) - ^
00:40:900 (182,183,184,185) - This is pretty questionable - there is nothing in the background except that swooshing sound. If you think it can fill up the song properly (put it in question and try many patterns before saying it does), then you can leave it as it is.
00:55:043 (287,288,289,290,291,292) - Small suggestion: add a note at 00:55:186 - ?
01:02:328 (330,331,332,333) - As questionable as 00:40:900 (182,183,184,185) -.
01:08:328 (367,368,369,370) - ^
01:47:328 (604) - Forgot to k on purpose ?

01:49:900 (1) - Maybe map this, in the end ! I think you could make a decrease in density instead of spamming your keys

- I suggest you to finish the chart at the same point as ming's oni.

The spread overall is good enough but note complexity increases greatly between Oni and Inner Oni (just pointing this out, you don't need to adapt your map to comply more to a better spread. I think, upon many retries and analyses that it's got something unique. well it looks 2010-ish though).

mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-04-05T01:47:50+00:00

_Gezo_

Continuing the mod even though there are new diffs (well one got to Inner and the other popped out)

[ming's Oni]
00:16:043 (1) - Where you try to combine vocal and drumming, I think here this should be a d - the pitch of the vocal gradually decreases (it's barely noticeable compared to 00:15:614 (1) - ), and changing back to k makes it feel weird and breaks a bit your patterning. owh nice here. changed btw
00:20:328 (1) - A D here feels weird despite being totally justified. hmm i keep mine here >~<
00:22:900 (1) - Same as 00:16:043 (1) - ! changed
00:40:900 (1) - A small suggestion here, if you want to emphasize the swooshing-idkhowtosay sound, just put it K instead ? lol dat sound. yes agree with your explanation. changed it to be big kat here
00:53:543 (1) - k ? I think continuing 00:52:471 (1,1,2) - to 00:53:328 (1,1,1) - would play better as this is literally the same sound 7 times in a row. kay changed here
01:07:257 (1) - Maybe map it instead of a denden ? I think you can play on note pitching, as you've done before. denden? do you mean i should change that spinner to be notes? xD hmm.. i keep mine here with spinner because of the background sound and there's not drum hits there. so i just put spinner

01:08:757 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Wrong timeline snapping - the song is not 1/3. Use 1/4 instead ! owh my mistake. changed
01:34:686 (1) - Same as 01:07:257 (1) - .

I think this diff is really polished - all individual notes are just suggestions, but there's that 6-note sequence that needs to be fixed. Other than that, it is very solid.

The spread overall is good enough but note complexity increases greatly between Oni and Inner Oni (just pointing this out, you don't need to adapt your map to comply more to a better spread. I think, upon many retries and analyses that it's got something unique. well it looks 2010-ish though).

thanks for your mod, gezo~ :3

m1ng's Oni

Ulysses

1,911 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

Ulysses 2014-04-05T01:58:55+00:00

updated
Also,Irrever's Insane is completed by 85%!
Edit:100th post on this thread lol

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2014-04-05T02:19:38+00:00

Please still mod it, I'll fix the and with the next mods incoming! Thanks in advance~

Kiiwa

928 posts

Joined January 2010

Kiiwa 2014-04-05T04:08:53+00:00

love it!

-xNaCLx-

363 posts

Joined April 2012

-xNaCLx- 2014-04-05T05:50:52+00:00

_Gezo_ wrote:
Continuing the mod even though there are new diffs (well one got to Inner and the other popped out)

[NC's Inner Oni]
00:17:757 (52,53,54,55) - Make at least 55 a k due to it being the lone snare as a don - but I propose two patterns. Either you make a kdd k, or a k ddk - the second one would play better and follow more your sequence. (00:16:043 (45,46,47,48) - and 00:19:471 (59,60,61,62) - ) Both patterns are correct song-wise. fixed
00:27:936 (99,100,101,102) - I found it a bit awkward to play, your emphasis is pretty weird, I think echoing the d at 00:28:043 (100) - on 00:28:257 - would play better than your current echoing at 00:28:364 (101) - .
00:31:364 (119,120,121,122) - ^ i would like to keep it dk to make it same to the kd before
00:40:900 (182,183,184,185) - This is pretty questionable - there is nothing in the background except that swooshing sound. If you think it can fill up the song properly (put it in question and try many patterns before saying it does), then you can leave it as it is.
00:55:043 (287,288,289,290,291,292) - Small suggestion: add a note at 00:55:186 - ? but the kdddk all lands on beat while here is empty
01:02:328 (330,331,332,333) - As questionable as 00:40:900 (182,183,184,185) -.
01:08:328 (367,368,369,370) - ^ well i would like to keep the 1/3
01:47:328 (604) - Forgot to k on purpose ? fixed
01:49:900 (1) - Maybe map this, in the end ! I think you could make a decrease in density instead of spamming your keys - I suggest you to finish the chart at the same point as ming's oni. ~~i'm just too lazy~~ ok i'll fix it

The spread overall is good enough but note complexity increases greatly between Oni and Inner Oni (just pointing this out, you don't need to adapt your map to comply more to a better spread. I think, upon many retries and analyses that it's got something unique. well it looks 2010-ish though).

thanks for mod

updated version.

[Emiria]

1,010 posts

Joined November 2012

[Emiria] 2014-04-05T06:22:40+00:00

4K MOD im lazy xDDD

insane

00:13:900 - DOUBle
00:14:543 - 00:15:400 - add a note
00:16:686 - 00:16:793 - 00:17:114 - 00:17:543 - 00:18:828 - ^
00:19:471 (19471|3) - move to 00:19:257 -
00:20:114 - 00:20:328 - add a note
00:20:971 - ^
00:21:186 (21186|3) - move to 00:21:400 -
00:21:828 - add a note
00:22:043 (22043|3) - move to 00:22:257 -
00:22:471 - double
00:22:900 (22900|3) - move to 00:22:686 -
00:25:686 - add a note
00:23:757 (23757|3) - move to 00:23:543 -
00:23:971 - add a note
00:29:757 (29757|3,29757|1) - end at red line
00:32:543 (32543|0,32543|2,32543|1,32757|1,32757|2,32757|3) - 2 notes
00:28:900 - use the SVchange ?
00:33:186 (33186|2,33186|0) - end at red line
00:34:900 (34900|0,34900|1,34900|3,34900|2) - 2notes
00:35:328 -try this http://puu.sh/7WydI.jpg http://puu.sh/7WygY.jpg http://puu.sh/7Wyi8.jpg http://puu.sh/7Wyjv.jpg
00:41:328 - add a note
00:42:828 (42828|3) - delete
00:42:614 (42614|2) - change to LN end at 00:42:828 -

slaps me ..i'll finish my mod tomorrow

irc

17:25 Zillah: ~~
17:25 victorica_db: 继续好了。。求不掉线
17:25 Zillah: 嗯
17:25 victorica_db: 刚刚说道00:45:186 (45186|0) -
17:26 victorica_db: 改好了么
17:26 Zillah: 嗯
17:26 victorica_db: 00:45:614 -
17:26 victorica_db: 这
17:26 victorica_db: 和上面的一样改成2面的组合
17:27 Zillah: 嗯
17:27 victorica_db: 00:47:114 (47114|3,47114|0) - 去掉一个
17:28 victorica_db: 00:47:543 (47543|2,47543|3) - 单note
17:28 victorica_db: 00:47:757 - 00:48:186 -
17:28 victorica_db: 这吧1/4取上
17:29 victorica_db: 00:48:186 - 这里重音在加一个note
17:30 victorica_db: 00:48:186 (48186|3) - 这个在上面的红线停
17:30 victorica_db: 00:48:614 (48614|0) - 这个在红线停
17:30 victorica_db: 00:49:686 (49686|2) - 删
17:31 victorica_db: 00:49:900 - 重音
17:32 victorica_db: 00:49:900 (49900|3) - 红线停
17:32 Zillah: 取上是加1/4 還是甚麼 o.o
17:32 victorica_db: 全部去掉变成1/4
17:33 victorica_db: 就是取次次次次的那个
17:33 victorica_db: 00:50:114 - 00:51:614 - 取人声
17:34 victorica_db: 00:52:043 (52043|1) - 红线停
17:34 victorica_db: 00:54:400 (54400|0) - 删了
17:35 victorica_db: 00:54:828 - 加一个note
17:35 victorica_db: 然后小小的总结一下。你做这图的时候轻重音不太分。。这个你要自己仔细核对一下 ;w;
17:35 victorica_db: 我后面就不说了
17:36 Zillah: 唱
17:36 Zillah: 嗯
17:37 victorica_db: 01:00:828 - 你这里有变速的话就不考虑加强这个。就干脆把01:00:828 (60828|2,60828|0,60936|2,60936|3) - 变成单note
17:38 victorica_db: 01:00:828 (60828|0,60828|2,60936|3,60936|2,62328|1,62757|3,63186|2,63614|3) - 全部都是在红线结束
17:39 victorica_db: 01:03:828 - 这里开始我建议写人声用双note表示在重音的地方是3note
17:39 victorica_db: 01:05:757 (65757|2) - 在红线结束
17:40 victorica_db: 01:08:436 (68436|2,68436|1,68543|0,68543|3,68650|2,68650|1) - 没音
17:40 victorica_db: 01:11:114 (71114|0) - 删
17:40 victorica_db: 这条子的变的话变速不知道要不要改是个比较大的工程量了。。。;w;
17:41 Zillah: 哪裡？
17:41 victorica_db: 没。。我的意思是改动了条子之后可能会对变速有影响。。
17:41 victorica_db: 01:11:757 -
17:42 victorica_db: double note
17:42 Zillah: 啊
17:42 victorica_db: 01:12:614 (72614|3) - 红线停
17:43 victorica_db: 01:18:614 - 加一个
17:43 victorica_db: 01:21:507 (81507|3,81507|2) - 删
17:43 Zillah: 條子可以留嗎
17:43 victorica_db: 01:21:400 (81400|0) - 挪到2
17:43 victorica_db: 。。。条子是缩短
17:44 victorica_db: 基本上你老把音拉长。。
17:45 Zillah: 因為那音在紅線後還有餘音....不拉長感覺怪怪的
17:45 victorica_db: 虽然按现在的bat不会说啥但是我一般来说还是希望一个音对音一个note的感觉
17:45 victorica_db: 其实红线后是2个音。。。
17:45 victorica_db: 算了按你的变速来把都别改缩短条了。。
17:46 victorica_db: 01:26:757 - 加2个note
17:46 victorica_db: 01:28:043 (88043|0) - 挪到2
17:47 victorica_db: 01:27:828 - 加个条子在1 在上面白线结束
17:47 victorica_db: 01:28:364 (88364|3) - 删
17:49 victorica_db: 01:28:364 (88364|3,96400|2,96614|1,96828|2,97257|2,97471|1,97686|2,97900|0,98114|1,98328|1,98543|3) - 删
17:49 victorica_db: 01:38:971 (98971|3,99186|2,99400|3) - 删
17:50 victorica_db: 01:39:614 - 这后面也一样，，那种轻的音用单note 有鼓点了用double 重音用3note
17:52 victorica_db: 差不多就这些吧
17:52 victorica_db: 另外的难度明天在说了
17:52 Zillah: 嗯~

10crystalmask01

10crystalmask01 2014-04-06T21:29:24+00:00

01:36:186- Hey that's you

lol.

Can't mod this map, sorry, it's already so good and playable (yes, I did test play this map). Have some stars

Good luck!

Kurodragon_old

Kurodragon_old 2014-04-06T21:47:25+00:00

Kantan
00:03:614 (3) - k
00:10:471 (7) - k
00:14:757 - k
00:16:471 - k
00:18:186 - k
00:21:614 - k
00:23:328 - k
02:02:757 - d
02:03:186 - k

KantanZoda
00:33:614 (38) - d
02:02:757 - d
02:03:186 - k

Futsuu
00:53:114 (119,120,121,122) - Its a futsuu, no a muzukashii
01:13:472 (169) - k
01:14:329 (172) - k

NCs muzukashii
01:49:900 (1) - Delete this and put circles D:

toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2014-04-07T11:51:14+00:00

Hi :3 Taiko Mod request from nold_1702

[

about]

d is don note
k is kat note
D is Finish don note
K is Finish kat note
Purple is UnRankable , Please change
Green is I would strongly recommend
black is Pointed out that

[

General]

Okay.

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[

Kantan]

Okay.

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[

KantanZodaKRX193(へんたい)]

OkayZoda. good

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[

Futsuu]

SV 1.2 => 1.4 ? ( Kantan.KantanZoda SV1.4 ) OD-1 ( 4 ) ? ( Muzu => OD4 ) :3
01:51:614 (256,257) - swap ? ( kd dk is fit )

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[

NC's Muzukashii]

00:26:757 - add d here ? ( Vocal fit )

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[

m1ng senpai >3< 's Oni]

Nice :3

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[

Inner Oni]

00:50:650 (253,254) - swap ? ( 00:50:543 (252,253) - same Notes good ? )
00:51:078 (256,257) - swap 00:51:507 (259,260) - swap ( 00:51:614 (260) - This sound d good )
00:53:328 (273) - Chenge d ? ( have a low sound )
01:36:043 (557,558) - Cgange k ? ( 01:35:757 (553,554,555,556,557,558) - Same sound )
01:59:757 (638,639) - swap 02:01:471 (644,645) - swap ? ( 01:56:757 (633) - 01:58:471 (635) - 02:00:186 (639) - 02:01:900 (645) - use d ?)

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Sorry short check >< GL :3~

Rumia-

2,513 posts

Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2014-04-07T18:17:58+00:00

irc on mania diffs

21:07 - R u m i a -: you free today?
21:07 Zillah: yay, until 11 I guess
21:07 - R u m i a -: ok
21:07 - R u m i a -: ww
21:07 - R u m i a -: want irc now?
21:08 Zillah: sure :3
21:08 - R u m i a -: wait i need to dl the new diff xd
21:09 Zillah: haha yes
21:10 - R u m i a -: omg my lappy lagged for a while now orz
21:11 Zillah: o.o. It froze?
21:11 - R u m i a -: ya sometimes xd
21:12 Zillah: >_< poor lappy
21:13 Zillah: must be abused by rumi-chan's SV too frequently >_<
21:13 - R u m i a -: lol.
21:13 - R u m i a -: the dl froze orz.
21:13 Zillah: ;w; why do this to me
21:14 *Zillah slaps rumi's net
21:14 - R u m i a -: ok finally
21:15 *- R u m i a - is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/392004 Meg & Dia - Monster (DotEXE Dubstep Remix) [Zillah's 7K Insane]]
21:15 Zillah: \o/
21:17 - R u m i a -: 00:42:400 (42400|3,42828|3) -
21:17 - R u m i a -: why dont you delete them and highlight the hold's sv
21:17 - R u m i a -: holds with sv *
21:17 - R u m i a -: since the instrument is pretty rough sound hh
21:17 - R u m i a -: 00:42:186
21:18 - R u m i a -: x2.00
21:18 - R u m i a -: 00:42:293
21:18 - R u m i a -: x0.50
21:19 - R u m i a -: 00:42:400 remove x.64
21:20 Zillah: o.o is that ok?
21:20 - R u m i a -: uhm , wait not sure if you understand but go do something else first i remodelling sv like recommended . i will send you the edit diff so you choose sv
21:21 Zillah: wouldn't the LN looks shorter on this SV?
21:21 - R u m i a -: its kinda hard to explain how it works so i let you see how it works first then i will explain what you dont understand
21:21 - R u m i a -: not really =|
21:21 Zillah: ah ok
21:22 Zillah: thank you rumi >_< my savior
21:22 - R u m i a -: btw i have a little suggestion before i make the sv mods xD
21:22 - R u m i a -: 00:32:328 (32328|6,32543|6,32757|6,32971|6) -
21:22 - R u m i a -: whoy dont you put at 1st collumn ? the voice repeats untill 00:33:186 (33186|0) -
21:23 - R u m i a -: 00:32:971
21:23 - R u m i a -: i think you missed a note here
21:23 Zillah: the second note is the kicks
21:24 - R u m i a -: o.o then what is 00:32:543 (32543|4) -
21:24 Zillah: wait a sec... 0123456 or 1234567?
21:24 - R u m i a -: oh sorry
21:24 Zillah: I'm a potato...
21:24 - R u m i a -: my mod will always use 1234567
21:25 Zillah: ok
21:25 - R u m i a -: 00:34:257 (34257|2,34257|4) -
21:25 - R u m i a -: 00:34:364
21:25 - R u m i a -: have note too
21:25 - R u m i a -: so
21:26 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490736 make like this?]
21:27 Zillah: I didn't put them all on 1st column because the 7s represent vocal, I wanted to maintain pitch relevence (at least some of them)
21:27 Zillah: looks good
21:27 - R u m i a -: mhm .. 00:35:543 (35543|1) - i dont hear anything catchy here
21:27 - R u m i a -: why dont you move it to 00:35:971 (35971|6) -
21:27 - R u m i a -: make this double too
21:28 Zillah: (y)
21:28 Zillah: moved to 3
21:29 - R u m i a -: 00:55:257 (55257|5,55364|4,55471|3,55578|2,55686|1) - this is actually a 1/3 measure
21:30 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490749 like this]
21:31 - R u m i a -: 00:59:971 (59971|1,60186|0) - move these 2 collumns to right? so the pattern looks neat
21:32 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490751 like this]
21:32 - R u m i a -: dont watch the autoplay yet . just from playback since i will remodel the sv ,
21:33 - R u m i a -: juz correcting some patterns and sync
21:33 Zillah: ok
21:33 - R u m i a -: i wait you reply 1st.
21:34 Zillah: moved
21:35 - R u m i a -: 01:06:186 (66186|2,66186|0,66400|4,66614|5,66828|6) - i wonder why this is a single note ?
21:35 - R u m i a -: its pretty rough , like previous part you accent it with 2 notes and a single hold
21:36 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490765 suggestion]
21:36 - R u m i a -: 01:08:328 - here atleast a note
21:37 Zillah: added 2
21:38 - R u m i a -: 01:19:900 - should have 1/2 hold too
21:38 Zillah: I'm thinking should I emphasize 01:06:186 (66186|0,66186|2,66400|4,66614|5,66828|6) - more since the last time is 1LN+double
21:39 - R u m i a -: oh. k den
21:39 Zillah: moving 01:20:114 (80114|6) - to 01:19:900, deleted 7
21:39 - R u m i a -: 01:21:614 (81614|5) - how about move this to 1? the patterns looks better , better hand balance .
21:40 Zillah: yup
21:40 - R u m i a -: ww
21:40 - R u m i a -: 01:22:364 (82364|1) - i dont hear anything?
21:42 - R u m i a -: 01:22:471 (82471|5,82686|2,82793|1,82900|0) - 1/3 snap
21:43 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490788 like this]
21:43 Zillah: 01:22:043 - 01:22:471 are 1 sound effect, I break it into 4 LNs cause it's ascending
21:43 - R u m i a -: its only ascending until 01:22:257 (82257|2) -
21:44 - R u m i a -: 01:25:043 (85043|6) - how about move this to 4?
21:44 Zillah: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490795 how about this, I don't really like shield ._.
21:45 - R u m i a -: good enough
21:45 - R u m i a -: 01:26:436 (86436|2,86650|6) - what is this actually?
21:46 Zillah: sometimes I use 1/4 to replace LN
21:47 - R u m i a -: i see
21:47 - R u m i a -: hmm i guess 01:27:614 (87614|3) - this is really unnecessary
21:47 - R u m i a -: 01:27:828 - its better a double hold here imo
21:48 Zillah: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490810 like this?]
21:49 - R u m i a -: nice
21:49 Zillah: looks like a robot now yay \o/
21:49 - R u m i a -: 01:30:186 (90186|5) - i think this is a 1/2 hold ._.
21:50 - R u m i a -: 01:37:043 (97043|0,97043|2,97043|1) - remove finish hitsound , this should be snare/clap ._.
21:51 - R u m i a -: 01:37:900 (97900|2) - this too
21:51 Zillah: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490817 will break them like this]
21:51 - R u m i a -: 01:37:900 (97900|6) - ^
21:51 - R u m i a -: looks good
21:53 - R u m i a -: 01:41:971 (101971|0,101971|2,102078|3,102078|4,102186|6,102186|5,102186|0,102186|1) -
21:53 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490830 how about make them like this?]
21:54 Zillah: yup
21:54 - R u m i a -: ok last thing
21:54 - R u m i a -: 01:55:043 (115043|3,115471|2,115686|5,115686|0,115793|1,115793|3,115900|4,115900|5) -
21:55 - R u m i a -: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490840 how about this?]
21:57 Zillah: yup
21:57 - R u m i a -: ok done.
21:57 Zillah: \o/
21:57 - R u m i a -: link me the latest .osu.
21:57 - R u m i a -: doing the sv work now .
21:58 Zillah: http://puu.sh/7ZwqL.osu
21:58 - R u m i a -: oh wait . is there any other diff with sv?
21:58 Zillah: 4k In and 2 HD ._.
21:58 - R u m i a -: oh
21:58 - R u m i a -: i will deep mod it later.
21:59 *Zillah hugs rumi-chan
21:59 - R u m i a -: sv will be different in all other diff \o/
21:59 Zillah: :3
22:00 Zillah: 4k IN and 7k IN has simliar pattern
22:00 - R u m i a -: oh
22:00 - R u m i a -: ok i recommend you fix the 1/3 part 1st . in the meantime
22:00 - R u m i a -: xD
22:00 Zillah: sure
22:10 Zillah: [http://puu.sh/7Zx1M.osu 7k HD] [http://puu.sh/7ZwQv.osu 7k NM]
22:10 Zillah: others are not affected by the 1/3
22:11 - R u m i a -: ok ww
22:11 Zillah: afk for a while
22:11 - R u m i a -: ok
22:58 - R u m i a -: http://puu.sh/7ZzyT.osu
01:02 Zillah: rumi~~ i'm back ._.
01:03 - R u m i a -: i pm-ed you in the forum xd
01:03 - R u m i a -: check the test ver sv.
01:04 Zillah: checking
01:05 Zillah: 01:23:043 the SV here is quite hard to read
01:05 Zillah: ~_~ why u link my word
01:05 Zillah: 01:23:043
01:06 Zillah: now not even link ._.
01:06 - R u m i a -: lol
01:06 - R u m i a -: wait ah
01:06 Zillah: kk
01:06 Zillah: I check the IN now
01:09 - R u m i a -: http://puu.sh/7ZHxx.osu
01:09 - R u m i a -: here
01:09 - R u m i a -: fixed that part lol
01:33 Zillah: I test played the 7k IN 3 times, there are some part I would nerf a lil... 1.75 and 2 are too fast :<
01:34 Zillah: and also the outro, it would be better if it's a softer bump
01:36 - R u m i a -: ok
01:36 - R u m i a -: lol
01:36 Zillah: It looks a lot neater now, thanks for cleaning up and fixing my mess <3

i forgot to savelog the sv mods but you can tell after update it hhh
i am forced to eat cookie ;w;

Ulysses

1,911 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

Ulysses 2014-04-07T23:36:08+00:00

10crystalmask01 wrote:
01:36:186- Hey that's you lol.

Can't mod this map, sorry, it's already so good and playable (yes, I did test play this map). Have some stars
Good luck!

thank you for your stars and also rumia s mod
EDIT:applied all toara_fict 's mods.

Pokie

osu! Alumni

2,630 posts

Joined December 2009

Pokie 2014-04-08T06:28:10+00:00

GoNold2014

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,393 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2014-04-10T16:36:09+00:00

sigh.. that size.

[General]
- It's weird that almost all Taiko Diffs has different end times. Try to keep this consistent.

[Kantan]
- You could rename this Difficulty since it's has simplier pattern and less destiny as KantanZoda. Maybe something like "Taiko Basics" or so.
00:46:043 (44) - I think it sounds much better if you try mapping the sound at 00:49:471. You would emphasize the "wub" and the k would be used way better. That's for all parts like that.

[KantanZoda]
00:30:186 (33) - That should be d since 00:29:757 (32) is d too.
00:33:614 (38) - ^
00:51:186 (62,63) - swap them? d k d is suitable to play and sounds better with the pitches.
00:58:471 (73) - d here
01:13:043 (96) - k here
01:15:614 (98,99) - swap them? You actually used them reversed.
01:22:471 (108) - k here
01:25:900 (113,114) - same as 01:15:614.

[Futsuu]
00:31:472 (64) - Please split this long combo by deleting this circle here.
00:40:043 (86) - I think it's a better flow to remove this.
00:42:828 (93) - move to 00:43:257 for emphasizing vocal?
00:53:328 (120) - move to 00:52:900, it fits much better there.
00:54:186 (123) - k?
01:03:614 (141) - d? like at 00:43:043 (94).

[Muzukashii]
Over IRC, see Inner Oni.

[Oni]
00:20:757 (2) - Finish here? It fits pretty good with the previous Big D.
01:09:186 (1,2,1,2,1) - This actually should be kdkkk.
01:17:328 (2) - k here?
01:26:221 (2) - I do not really understand the sense of these pattern. You've always doing xxx x pattern on such parts but now xxxxx? I think the pattern before feels better to play. Remove this circle.
01:27:721 (2) - I think this plays better without this circle.
01:29:650 (2) - Same reason as 01:26:221.
01:33:078 (2) - ^
01:34:364 (2) - d here?

[Inner Oni]

IRC Log

08:05 Stefan: Hey
08:05 NewibornCLivee: ?
08:06 Stefan: Is it okay if we do an IRC Mod to your Taiko Diffs?
08:06 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/386782 Meg & Dia - Monster (DotEXE Dubstep Remix) [NC's Inner Oni]]
08:06 NewibornCLivee: umm..i think yes
08:06 Stefan: Great
08:08 Stefan: 00:41:043 (183,184) - they feels a bit weird to play imo
08:08 Stefan: And imo I cannot hear any 1/3 sound out.
08:08 Stefan: I think a circle on the red tick is enough
08:09 NewibornCLivee: yes, other modders had also pointed it out...
08:10 NewibornCLivee: but
08:11 NewibornCLivee: i just love how it mix with that swooshing sound..
08:11 Stefan: Hmm I understand, okay then.
08:11 Stefan: 00:43:900 (204) - k maybe?
08:12 Stefan: I think that hit should be emphasized
08:13 NewibornCLivee: ok fixed
08:13 Stefan: 00:45:400 (215,216) - I think (216) won't be necessary to put in if you change (215) to d. the wub goes on (213,214) but not really on (215)
08:15 Stefan: 00:50:757 (253) - k? As 00:43:900
08:15 NewibornCLivee: ^yep this is fixed
08:16 Stefan: And about 00:45:400 - ?
08:17 NewibornCLivee: umm..i think i'll keep 216
08:17 Stefan: Okay.
08:17 NewibornCLivee: because in the music i just dont want to keep 217 alone
08:18 Stefan: If you changed (215) to d then also make this then at 00:52:257 (264) -
08:19 Stefan: 00:55:757 (290) - maybe k? because of the wub wub
08:20 Stefan: 01:11:328 (385) - k here
08:20 Stefan: 01:12:828 (397) - d here
08:20 Stefan: 01:16:257 (418) - ^
08:21 NewibornCLivee: well 292 is more like to be emphasized so i'll keep that 291(or in your side,290) as d
08:21 NewibornCLivee: 01:11:328 (386) - fixed
08:22 NewibornCLivee: i'm not quite sure about that d....because i wanted to make it different from the dkkddk pattern e.g.00:41:650 (186,187,188,189,190,191)
08:23 Stefan: Hmm
08:23 NewibornCLivee: because it just repeated for so many times in the map
08:23 Stefan: Well yes, we could arrange that the second kiai uses dkkkdk pattern.
08:24 Stefan: and the first dkkddk
08:24 Stefan: Makes it a bit more flexible.
08:25 NewibornCLivee: okay
08:25 Stefan: 01:43:043 (590) - I think that hit isn't good with k.
08:25 Stefan: 01:49:900 (615) - sounds great here
08:25 Stefan: with d
08:26 Stefan: Okay, that's so far about Inner Oni, now to Muzukashii
08:26 NewibornCLivee: okay
08:28 Stefan: 00:17:864 (50) - I think Muzukashii should only use Triplets if it's clearly hearable in the song.
08:28 Stefan: And this one isn't one imo
08:28 NewibornCLivee: ...
08:29 NewibornCLivee: i'll delete 49 and 50.
08:29 Stefan: Uh, okay.
08:34 Stefan: Well, the rest is fine.
08:34 NewibornCLivee: ok thanks

08:35 Stefan: But can you do me a favor? :c
08:35 Stefan: My client crashed and I need the Chat log for the post. D:
08:35 NewibornCLivee: umm..
08:35 Stefan: Can you send it to me?

Last edited by Stefan 2014-04-21T00:39:09+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

wongfung

5 posts

Joined January 2009

wongfung 2014-04-11T17:22:17+00:00

My first mod ;w;

Zillah's 7K Hard

Note:
00:55:900 (55900|3,56007|2,56114|1) - change the pattern to be 00:55:900 (55900|3,55900|1,56114|2,56114|4)

00:56:328 (56328|4,56436|3,56543|2,56757|3,56864|4,56971|5) - change the pattern to be 00:56:328 (56328|4,56328|3,56543|6,56543|5,56757|2,56757|0,56971|4)

00:57:186 (57186|3) - add a note

01:15:614 (75614|0) - change to LN end at 01:16:043

01:16:043 (76043|2,76257|3,76471|6,76471|4,76471|1,76900|5,77114|3) - change the pattern to be 01:16:043 (76043|3,76150|4,76257|3,76471|1,76471|6,76471|2,76686|5,76900|6,76900|1,76900|2,77114|5)

01:22:757 (82757|5,82900|3,83043|1,83186|2,83257|3,83328|4,83328|6) - change the pattern to be 01:22:757 (82757|6,82900|5,83043|4,83186|3,83257|2,83328|1,83328|5,83328|6)

SV:
01:02:864 (62864,62971,63293,63400) - change them back to x1.00

01:23:328 (83328,83543) - change them back to x1.00

01:34:578 (94578,94686,95007,95114,95436,95543,95864,95971) - change them back to x1.00

Zillah

62 posts

Joined June 2013

Zillah 2014-04-11T17:34:00+00:00

Zillah's 7K Hard

osu file format v12

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TitleUnicode:Monster (DotEXE Dubstep Remix)
Artist:Meg & Dia
ArtistUnicode:Meg & Dia
Creator:nold_1702
Version:Zillah's 7K Hard
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Tags:NCL NewibornCLivee Nold Chewin Kloyd IamKwaN Zillah Irreversible _Gezo_ mingmichael ursa
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Ulysses

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Topic Starter

Ulysses 2014-04-14T13:18:40+00:00

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[Shi-Ra]

458 posts

Joined October 2012

[Shi-Ra] 2014-04-16T05:38:56+00:00

Hi there~ I thought that I can easily set piano, but there are too many problems with SV changes in mania diffs.
So there are my suggestions on how to make this chart more playable.

Shi-Ra's Re-Check:

Zillah's 7K Insane

Inside :3

First of all I need to tell you that all of these SV are useless in this song and don't make your charts better. Why? You need to use SV changes only when you have different BPM parts in your song. There's no at least one BPM change in this song, that's why I can't understand you intention to place SV for every sound section...it makes your chart so bad, really ;w;

There are the most problem places:

From 00:45:614 to 00:46:900 - if you're use one SV change it's ok, but don't use it so often, how would player concentrate on patterns if he need to learn such places to replay them again

From 01:01:900 to 01:04:043 - what? different SV speed for each jump? for what? all sounds here are same and you can here stable beat on background

01:15:400 - SV change even before there starts sound? no please, you need at least accent this part correctly, now it's bad ;w;

From 01:26:757 to 01:28:150 - no, don't use SV changes with different and complicate patterns, you need to do them more comfortable for player, not vice versa

From 01:34:471 to 01:36:186 - okay...for what here? there goes simple vocal section without any effects...and so on~

You see how many problems you have with accenting incorrect SV parts? It's real problem for good chart, so I recommend to delete them all, as I said you need to use them only when you have BPM change. I hope you understand ;w;

Zillah's 7K Hard

Inside :3

Yes, same problems here like in the previous diff, but wow, there are another places for SV changes o.o
I've placed this box after insane coz you have less problems with this diff and no need to write detailed review.
Same recommendations like for insane diff:

1. Use SV changes only when you have BPM changes.

2. Use same SV sections for all of your diffs, don't accent every diff with different SV changes.

3. Make your SV suitable for song and smooth and comfortable for player, think about that.

That's all here, thank you~ ^w^

Fix these issues and call me again for icon ^w^
Good luck :3/

Sorarei

1,420 posts

Joined August 2012

Sorarei 2014-04-16T05:52:52+00:00

[Shi-Ra] wrote:
First of all I need to tell you that all of these SV are useless in this song and don't make your charts better. Why? You need to use SV changes only when you have different BPM parts in your song. There's no at least one BPM change in this song, that's why I can't understand you intention to place SV for every sound section...it makes your chart so bad, really ;w;

i don't think so....

[Shi-Ra]

458 posts

Joined October 2012

[Shi-Ra] 2014-04-16T06:02:55+00:00

Reikosaka wrote:
i don't think so....

Tell me where you can get any significant change in this song? Maybe for two or three accentable parts, yus. But for every sound and vocals? No, please ;w;

Rumia-

2,513 posts

Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2014-04-16T06:07:10+00:00

[Shi-Ra] wrote:
Reikosaka wrote:
i don't think so....

Tell me where you can get any significant change in this song? Maybe for two or three accentable parts, yus. But for every sound and vocals? No, please ;w;

i think the sv works fine . i talked with zillah a lot . its playable . its a dubstep song you should have understand why the sv work that way , it impacts the mood and the song . i irc'd with the mapper about sv changes
maybe need to nerf a little effects . will talk to zillah again. + i asked her remove lots of sv changes , the sv is not on vocal anymore . have you update it?

Last edited by Rumia- 2014-04-16T06:15:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

[Shi-Ra]

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Joined October 2012

[Shi-Ra] 2014-04-16T06:11:26+00:00

- R u m i a - wrote:
will talk to zillah again. + i asked her remove lots of sv changes

Yus, please ;w; Waiting for update~

Sorarei

1,420 posts

Joined August 2012

Sorarei 2014-04-16T06:35:24+00:00

i don't agree with statement "different bpm part" or maybe u talk this music. not general

the right statement is "changed in the music mood/pace/theme"

Rumia-

2,513 posts

Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2014-04-16T07:48:03+00:00

Reikosaka wrote:
i don't agree with statement "different bpm part" or maybe u talk this music. not general

the right statement is "changed in the music mood/pace/theme"

ok shouldn't continue the arguement here , can argue via pm , this is a big mapset thread , nold would appreciate it .

Rumia-

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Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2014-04-16T14:29:55+00:00

irc again with the sv

22:25 - R u m i a -: irc mod again with the 7k sv
22:25 - R u m i a -: 00:42:400 - change to 1.5 x , 1.75 too fast
22:26 - R u m i a -: 00:49:043 - fix this part too , same as previous
22:26 - R u m i a -: 01:02:757 - inconsistent with last sv , might be unreadable , so i guess change to previous same part
22:26 - R u m i a -: 01:03:186 - ^
22:28 Zillah : done
22:29 - R u m i a -: 01:16:043 - 1.5x
22:29 - R u m i a -: 01:16:150 - 0.5x
22:29 - R u m i a -: ww thats all , looks good now
22:32 Zillah : ok done , thank you rumi~~

should look good now.
EDIT: talked with [Shi-Ra] about the sv , should be good now.
waiting nold update the diff.

Zillah

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Zillah 2014-04-16T15:28:16+00:00

[Shi-Ra] wrote:
Hi there~ I thought that I can easily set piano, but there are too many problems with SV changes in mania diffs.
So there are my suggestions on how to make this chart more playable.

Shi-Ra's Re-Check:

Zillah's 7K Insane
Inside :3
First of all I need to tell you that all of these SV are useless in this song and don't make your charts better. Why? You need to use SV changes only when you have different BPM parts in your song. There's no at least one BPM change in this song, that's why I can't understand you intention to place SV for every sound section...it makes your chart so bad, really ;w;

There are the most problem places:

From 00:45:614 to 00:46:900 - if you're use one SV change it's ok, but don't use it so often, how would player concentrate on patterns if he need to learn such places to replay them again

From 01:01:900 to 01:04:043 - what? different SV speed for each jump? for what? all sounds here are same and you can here stable beat on background

01:15:400 - SV change even before there starts sound? no please, you need at least accent this part correctly, now it's bad ;w;

From 01:26:757 to 01:28:150 - no, don't use SV changes with different and complicate patterns, you need to do them more comfortable for player, not vice versa

From 01:34:471 to 01:36:186 - okay...for what here? there goes simple vocal section without any effects...and so on~

You see how many problems you have with accenting incorrect SV parts? It's real problem for good chart, so I recommend to delete them all, as I said you need to use them only when you have BPM change. I hope you understand ;w;
I applied rumi's mod for the insane

Zillah's 7K Hard
Inside :3
Yes, same problems here like in the previous diff, but wow, there are another places for SV changes o.o
I've placed this box after insane coz you have less problems with this diff and no need to write detailed review.
Same recommendations like for insane diff:

1. Use SV changes only when you have BPM changes.

2. Use same SV sections for all of your diffs, don't accent every diff with different SV changes.

3. Make your SV suitable for song and smooth and comfortable for player, think about that.

That's all here, thank you~ ^w^

00:55:328 - 00:55:828 SV deleted
01:09:400 - 01:09:507 SV deleted
01:22:757 - 01:23:971 SV deleted

Fix these issues and call me again for icon ^w^
Good luck :3/

P.S. 1: I would use red line for actual BPM change, but this song doesn't need one
P.S. 2: I can't standardize SV for each difficulty because it would be illogical to put insane SV on hard. The reason being that hard and insane has different patterns on the same timeline, that could not possibly fit the exact SV changes
P.S. 3: - R u m i a - did a deep SV mod on these diffs after your re-check(special thanks to rumi-chan, love you so much >_<), and further confirm SVs are readable.

Sorry for not accepting all mod you did, Shi-ra, I sincerely appreciate your mods and re-check even though we have different point of view about SV mapping and its use.

Last edited by Zillah 2014-04-16T23:25:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

[Shi-Ra]

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[Shi-Ra] 2014-04-16T15:45:49+00:00

Well, after remodelling and correcting these SV it looks much better owob Piano'd!~

Yuzeyun

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Yuzeyun 2014-04-17T06:09:27+00:00

Kurodragon wrote:
KantanZoda
02:02:757 - d
02:03:186 - k
^ Rejected, because these land on nothing.

Stefan wrote:
[General]
- It's weird that almost all Taiko Diffs has different end times. Try to keep this consistent.
well almost all taiko diffs have been mapped by different people lol

[KantanZoda]
00:30:186 (33) - That should be d since 00:29:757 (32) is d too.
00:33:614 (38) - ^ sure why not, duh
00:51:186 (62,63) - swap them? d k d is suitable to play and sounds better with the pitches. And not only it does that ! 00:48:186 (58,63) - are on where you would put big notes
00:58:471 (73) - d here
01:13:043 (96) - k here
01:15:614 (98,99) - swap them? You actually used them reversed. ti teg t'nod I t'nold I
01:22:471 (108) - k here No, not really here. the wubs are muuuuuch lower-pitched than the k counterparts.
01:25:900 (113,114) - same as 01:15:614.

http://puu.sh/8bZKx.osu

thanks guise YOU GET THE kudo

Yumeno Himiko

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Yumeno Himiko 2014-04-17T06:12:02+00:00

A minor suggestion
The link on ming directs to [Yue]

Ulysses

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Ulysses 2014-04-17T06:21:21+00:00

Opp..Sorry I forgot to reply Stefan's mod.

Applied all in my diffs
And updated.

examination wrote:
A minor suggestion
The link on ming directs to [Yue] ???Why :O

Yumeno Himiko

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Yumeno Himiko 2014-04-17T08:11:55+00:00

nold_1702 wrote:
Opp..Sorry I forgot to reply Stefan's mod.

Applied all in my diffs
And updated.

examination wrote:
A minor suggestion
The link on ming directs to [Yue] ???Why :O

Oh I didn't make it clear

SPOILER

Ulysses

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Ulysses 2014-04-17T08:14:39+00:00

Thank you examination xpp
I made it wrong.Thanks for reminding me xpp

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