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Mao

Elite Mapper II

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Joined December 2012

Mao 2014-11-12T21:33:07+00:00

Take my Star GN o/

Kaguya Hourain

514 posts

Joined October 2012

Kaguya Hourain 2014-11-16T13:35:29+00:00

Modtime! Sorry if it's a little late.

[

Exodus]

Well I think the diff settings are a bit awkward. Pretty sure the drain is a little on the low side, but if that's what you're digging then it's fine. I also think the AR could easily drop to 9 and still be readable perfectly.
00:02:984 (4,1,2) - I think the slider goes better at 1 rather than 2 in the timeline. Also stacking 4 to 1 100% cuz I'm nazi like that!
00:07:539 (1) - I'd end the spinner 1/2 earlier and place a circle where the spinner currently ends, since you get no impact on a spinner's end it would be best if you added a circle.
00:11:937 (8,1) - I'd reverse the order of these two objects in the timeline since right now you have a clap in a sliderend which basically doesn't give the desired impact. Besides the slider better fits on the white tick in this section
00:21:204 (1,2) - These sliders quite fit here, but the clap in the end controverses the usage. You could also blanket 00:21:204 (1,1) - this better if you so desire.
00:23:874 (7) - Middlepoint to x:106 y:137 for better blanket, although I'd prefer seeing 2 circles here instead. \:D/
00:40:837 - I think this section deserves to be mapped. 2 sliders on a lower SV or something will do.
01:07:225 (6) - Hmmmmm this looks a bit unrefined. If you want to show a spike in SV maybe you'd like to use red points subtly instead:
oo cute sliderino
01:18:062 (1) - Same as previous spinner.
01:23:246 (3,4,5) - I'd place the circle at the start of this and move the spinners 1/2 afterwards in the timeline, you can tell they're off because you already have placed whistles in their ends, not giving a desired impact on what you wish to do here.
01:28:272 (3,4,5) - The exact same thing happens here.
01:32:984 (3) - I don't see why this is a slider and not a couple of circles since you have claps on both its ends.
Generally many sliders with double claps on this section, consider adding more circles!
01:49:397 (1) - Same thing as all your spinners.
01:59:450 (1,1) - This slider is very wrong. You can fix it if you shorten the spinner by 1/2 and adding a reverse arrow to it extended backwards.
02:09:424 (1) - I think this fits better at 3/4 rhythmically and flows better in the current structure.
02:10:680 (1,2) - Reversing the order of these two objects gives a more desirable impact.
02:15:706 (1,2) - Same here.
02:18:219 (1,2) - Also here.
02:20:732 (1,2) - Maybe I'll stop mentioning them (?)
The kiai has the same circle > slider issue at some parts, take a look at those.
02:48:062 (1) - This slider ends on a normal-hitnormal + whistle. It deserves to be clicked. End the slider 1/4 or even 1/2 sooner
02:49:633 (1) - Removing the arrow and adding a circle functions better than what you have right now imo:
Flow may break depending on where you place the circle!
02:54:973 (2) - Again a slider with same impact on both ends. This should turn into two circles as well.
03:09:895 (1) - The sound at the spinner's end is too impactful for players not to click it. Shorten by 1/2 or something and add a circle!
03:18:534 (1) - Saaaaaaame!
03:32:827 (2,3) - Stack issue here. You should fix that
03:39:267 (1,1) - NICE SPINNER BLANKET!
03:45:078 (1) - You could make a circle > slider that ends 1/4 before the next beat to show the dragged sound that is there. Gives more playfulness to the map \:D/
04:09:895 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I see what you're doing here, but I think this is a big too much spacing. Changing it to 0.8 still gives a desired effect, considering the rest of your streams are somewhere between 0.6 and 0.7
04:25:759 (3) - This is way better off turning into two sliders, it is pretty unexpected there and people WILL get confused.
04:28:272 (3) - Same issue here.
04:30:785 (3) - Well you get the point.
04:49:633 (1,2,3) - The first slider is not there in the music unfortunately. Maybe circle at the start of the slider?
05:13:821 (8) - Remove the reverse arrow and place a circle. The end is a lot more impactful than what slider suggests.
05:18:298 (5,4) - Another stack issue here, fix that if you want
05:23:717 (5) - Circle at the start of the slider and 1/2 slider where the reverse arrow is now located would give a better feel.
05:25:759 (2,3,4,5) - You did this better than the previous section I mentioned, which is effectively the same in the music.
05:40:523 (1) - Spinner issueeeeeeesssssssssss >.<
05:46:177 (5,6,7) - Hmm you could spam 1/4 there. If not, why not try to blanket 7 to 6?
06:01:885 (1) - Would be a good idea placing a circle where the spinner starts and start the actual spinner 1/4 later. There is a pretty nice sound there that can be mapped instead of starting to rotate your mouse/pen.

This map is very pretty! Nice pattens overall, I also enjoy the song. Good choice, and good luck!

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

-GN 2014-11-19T04:29:36+00:00

Tess

Tess wrote:
This is a really interesting song, and it sounds like it wasn't very easy to map. Nice job with what you did, I think it already looks pretty good so far. The structure is good and it's generally consistent - I've found most of the issues to be rhythmic ones.

General
Add at least 2000ms AudioLeadIn. If you don't know how: File -> open .osu in NotePad -> Look under the General tab -> Change AudioLeadIn to 2000 and save. 1500 was enough for my purposes, no one will DT this anyway
Unsnapped greenline at 03:59:735 - . Consider moving it to 03:59:764 - , or snap it on top of 03:59:842 (1) - ok
- On 05:01:413 - you start a kiai section after the downbeat. I don't really see why, so maybe you could bring it back so it snaps on top of 05:01:335 (1) - ? This is also where your combo starts so it would make sense. I'd also recommend ending it on the sliderend of 05:20:261 (1) - , since that's where the intense section stops, and you don't really want any notes flashing after that. It'd just look out of place. not changing the start, as there's this specific sound in the background music that is a good cue in the music to start the kiai on - there's a different cue which i put a new combo on because it's more closely related to the hitobjects. these cues can be, and are, separated here. ending it earlier was a good idea though

Exodus - Polarity
00:10:209 (1,2) - See this is wrong. You randomly switch from red/white to blue polarity here, without really giving the player any indication of the switch. It feels awkward while playing, especially on the first try. You'll have to turn (1) into a 3/4 slider here, and then your options are either removing (2) and keeping (3) like this or removing (2) and turning (3) into two circles like this. What the eventual placement will be is up to you but it's really important that you fix this. in my own opinion, this does not seem right. i think that -any- player capable of playing this map properly would be able to take the cues presented, as well as its consistency, and understand what the map does with these. i may also add that this is based on a ranked taiko map, which had these kinds of switches all over - it's a semi-important bit in the song itself(and the hitsounding reflects this well, in my opinion)
00:10:994 (6,1) - And here you do it again. I recommend you watch the video on this thread t/55282 so that you'll know how to identify polarity shifts and how to deal with them. I won't be explaining the same thing for every faulty polarity shift but I'll point them all out to you so you can fix them after watching the video. for anything but the streams starting on blue ticks(after a sliderend), i find this blue polarity concept to be a separate thing from what i've done here - they're nothing but slightly offset doubles, and they don't seem off to me(then again, now i've heard this song probably a hundred times, creator bias is hard to deal with). i will go through these and closely monitor their place in the map, so that i can keep what i think needs keeping, while removing what could trip people up

so basically, i left the 00:10:052 (1,2,3,4) - things(making them as internally consistent as i could) and increased the spacings for 3/4 gaps, and changed most(if not all?) other occurrences. quite large remaps of the 10- to 30 second mark, mostly to jump patterns and whatnot.

01:08:246 (2,3) - This is really awkward to anticipate. 1/4 sliders on blue ticks with no way of anticipating when they'll start are really annoying and weird to play. Especially with songs like these, that have weird rhythms, it's very important that you pay close attention to stuff like this.
fixed
Here are also a few examples of cases where you did do the polarity shifts properly. These are good - don't change these rhythmically.
00:20:261 (2,3) -
00:27:801 (2,3) -
00:37:853 (2,3) - technically these are sort of wrong, since they have a clap at the sliderend, but i let them stay because they play a lot better than my other variation lol(excuse: i'm following the guitar instead \:D/)
03:29:528 (7,1) -

Exodus - Issues & Suggestions
00:06:596 (2,4) - This pattern looks kinda wonky. Maybe you could move things around to make it slightly cleaner? I thought something like this looked good, and also evened out the spacing a little. I'm sure you can come up with something of your own to fix it with, but if you want to copy this pattern over; the co-ordinates for (2) are x101 y275 and (4) is on x201 y363 redid it instead. it was shit anyway
00:27:486 (5) - Maybe move this so the curve is more angular like this? You'll get completely even spacing if you move it to x380 y265 nah, the point here is to make a partial pentagon shape
00:31:884 (1,2,3) - This flows weirdly, I think a more triangular flow would work better. Especially since it would be more consistent with 00:36:910 (1,2,3) - returned this to its original shape instead, the triangle seemed a bit sharp
00:48:691 (4,5) - Ctrl + G? yeah
00:57:486 (2,3) - ^ i'd like to keep the same clockwise flow of the triangles, referencing the music and copying the earlier triangle in the music instead of contradicting it
01:17:748 (2,3) - ^ that's cool
The section after the spinner is really nice, good job!
thanks
01:49:397 (1) - Start this spinner on the red tick, it feels less jerky and panicky to play okay, had to reduce its length too in accordance with kaguya's points though
01:52:460 (4,5) - There's no way for the player to know that this'll be 1/2 instead of 3/2 like before, the spacing's too large. I recommend you keep it at 1.3x max NCed differently for these parts, as done on the slider version seen later
01:57:486 (5,6) - It's okay with this pattern because the spacing is lower + the player has already heard the rhythm once. So it could've been high spacing here since they already know what to expect (but I recommend keeping it like this)
02:45:078 (6,7,8,9) - Okay, this is a bit tricky to explain, and I'm not sure if you'll like this, but it's worth trying. Ctrl + G (6) with (8), and then Ctrl + G (8) and (9), then swap their position with (7) in the timeline so you end up with this. Hope that makes sense, I think that would play much smoother. yeah, why not - seems more forgiving and plays good as well
02:53:246 (1) - I'd recommend changing this into two circles, probably in a small jumpy fashion. works well
03:09:581 (1) - ^ ok, but only because hitsounds
02:51:047 (2) - Small triangular jump instead of stacks? More of a suggestion than a playability issue, really. stacked it on the previous (4) instead. the HD players will hate me for this lol
03:02:748 (2,3) - These played a bit awkwardly, probably because they start on blue ticks. I've only seen those play well on rare occasions. changed it
03:06:910 (9,10) - (9) here should be a slider and (10) a circle, it's not comfortable when it starts on red there. out of all the occurrences of this, you only pointed out this one?? i think it works well enough here, so no change
03:12:094 (6) - A slider on red works here because it fits the flow + it follows an accentuated sound in the music
03:13:664 (1,2,3) - Is this done on purpose to accentuate the staccato in the song? It's not bad, just pointing it out in case it was an accident. reference to the first patterns in the song, intended
03:16:963 (5,6) - Another case of a misplaced slider emphasizing the vocals here, hitsound changed instead of slider
03:17:748 (2,3) - ^ changed
03:48:219 (1,2) - This would work better if it were a 1/8 return slider with a hit circle where the current sliderend of 2 is. yeah, there is -no- way to make this not shit, so i guess that's the best solution
03:58:272 (1,2) - ^ yes
04:08:324 (1,2) - ^ alright
04:18:376 (1,2) - ^ ok yo
04:00:628 (1,2,3) - I think the anti-jump here should be between 1 and 2, with a downwards jump from 2 to 3, or else you're in an awkward position to start the next pattern (which is waaay faster) attempted to balance this in another way(i think)
04:01:884 (1) - Why not two circles instead? Would accentuate the music much better and also be more consistent with your later patterns i figured the pressure was high enough here, but if you think it's okay, i changed that
04:02:356 (1) - ^ no, this flows well into the coming stream and doesn't clash with anything
04:02:827 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream actually ends on the red tick woah, what the hell
04:23:246 (3) - This would work better as 2 sliders instead of a repeat sure
04:25:759 (3) - ^ yeah
04:28:272 (3) - ^ done
04:30:785 (3) - ^ applied
04:53:717 (7) - Angle this upwards a bit more to suit the song's crescendo? an attempt was made
05:01:099 (3,1,2) - This is very good, I love this part
05:21:204 (1) - 2 circles instead, without an NC, and an anti-jump from 1 to 2, with an upwards jump to 3, and then add downwards jump towards a 4 here 05:21:518 - where you totally missed a note in the song, haha. If that doesn't make sense, see this that's ridiculous..._____________...i love it! (nced (3), though)
06:01:885 (1) - Replace this with a hitcircle, really. You completely kill the feeling of the song if you spin it up on the fadeout. Maybe NC it too to accentuate that final chime, but that's up to you. i disagree, but it's probably better to do so in any case

Okay that took longer than I expected it to but it was really fun to mod. I'm not getting into the hitsounds because this is already big enough and I'm tired. I do have to say that despite the many mods the map was overall quite enjoyable to play and also mapped quite cleanly. Seriously, good job. Shooting you a star. Hope this helps! it really does, thanks so much for the mod!

You've now motivated me to map AxiVid. Hopefully it'll be done by 2016. please do, axivid is a 10/10 song

that's a fuckload of text(and a lot of procrastination). thanks for the mod, kaguya's one will be applied tomorrow because it's 5:30 AM

Mao wrote:
Take my Star GN o/

thanks based mao

AndreasHD

478 posts

Joined June 2010

AndreasHD 2014-11-23T17:38:40+00:00

[General]

Remove the OSB. file in song folder, since you don't have any storyboard anyway.

Please make the AudioLeadIn: 1500 in the osu. file manually, so that people can actually get their left hand on the keyboard before the first notes takes off.

[Exodus]

04:39:895 Remove this inheriting section, because it's for no use.

00:00:471 (1) - I just really feel the stopmotion right before this note, and that makes me wanna put a NC on it, up to you though.

00:05:497 (3) - Same here ^ and probably the rest of the same shit.

00:07:539 It would be pretty cool if you made this spinner begin with no sound, but end with higher and higher volume. It would also follow the music pretty good.

00:10:209 (1) - Ehm, is this missplaced? It'll looks better if you put it in the center of the map.

00:18:062 (3) - Consider using 1,8X DS on this, looks much smoother with more gap between those two sliders (2) & (3)

00:23:874 (7) - drag the end of this slider just a tiny bit up, (use grid snap off) to make the blanket better.

00:23:874 (1) - NC

00:27:329 (4) - Move this two grids down and two grids left (gridlevel 4) so that it make more sense with 00:27:172 (3) - on how far away the sliders they are placed.

00:29:371 (2) - This could be stacked on top of the beginning of this slider 00:28:272 (4) - but to not screw up your beautiful pattern, let's just move all these 00:29:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - together two grids right and one down.

00:30:157 (1) - when playing this, your cursor are coming from this 00:29:999 (6) - and are therefore wanting the same direction from the slider, meaning if you drag the end point and the middle point down, like this

SPOILER

It'll feel smoother to play.

00:42:565 (3) - Woah! so many nodes in this slider lol, make it simple like this?

SPOILER

It also end up smoother.

00:45:706 (6) - I see what you were trying to do here, but it only make this note looks like a bad overlap.. however, it makes the map more interesting.. keep it if you want, just look at it and think carefully if you really want it.

00:47:591 (3) - Make this curve around 00:47:277 (1) -

00:54:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I liked how you put the notes at the end of the sliders here compared to the previous pattern I talked about.

01:11:308 (1) - Remove NC

01:11:623 (1) - NC

01:14:136 (1) - ^

01:16:649 (1) - ^

01:24:502 (1) - The end of this slider is extremly close to the end of (6).. consider spaceing that slightly.

01:33:926 (1) - NC just as you did here 01:32:670 (1) - ???

01:49:397 (1) - make the volume thing again? : D

02:10:680 (1) - Make a jump out of this note instead? would be awesome.

02:13:193 (1) - This one is very close to the hp-bar, please, just for the sake of it, one grid down or something, it's gonna look better.

02:45:078 (6) - ^

03:21:989 (1) - two grids to the right. (gridlvl4)

03:26:701 (3,4,5) - You actually have to drag these ones away from the HP-Bar, this one is a must.

04:01:884 (1) - Remove NC

04:04:554 (1) - You can improve this blanket so much, please do so.

04:56:387 (1) - remove the red node here? make it look smoother by doing that.

05:01:099 (1) - NC? not sure right here, but I feel its easier to know that it's gonna be a jump from 05:01:099 (1) - to 05:01:256 (1) - if you make it a NC.

05:03:298 (4,5) - Blanket these

05:15:863 (4,5) - ^

05:57:800 (7) - You can't overlap HP-Bar as before.

05:46:492 (7) - oh and btw, you can blanket better with (6) here if you want.

Okay, so this map is pretty long, but it flows well with the music. It has good potential, and I like it overall.
Good luck with eventual ranking and stuff!! and let's hope this mod was useful somehow.

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

-GN 2014-11-24T06:57:50+00:00

Sorry for the wait.

Kaguya Hourain

Kaguya Hourain wrote:
Modtime! Sorry if it's a little late.

Well I think the diff settings are a bit awkward. Pretty sure the drain is a little on the low side, but if that's what you're digging then it's fine. I also think the AR could easily drop to 9 and still be readable perfectly. i thought you didn't want the HP drain to increase last time it was brought up, i'll drop the AR though
00:02:984 (4,1,2) - I think the slider goes better at 1 rather than 2 in the timeline. Also stacking 4 to 1 100% cuz I'm nazi like that! fixed stacking. i feel that the third beat is less important, so i'll let the slider stay as is
00:07:539 (1) - I'd end the spinner 1/2 earlier and place a circle where the spinner currently ends, since you get no impact on a spinner's end it would be best if you added a circle. done
00:11:937 (8,1) - I'd reverse the order of these two objects in the timeline since right now you have a clap in a sliderend which basically doesn't give the desired impact. Besides the slider better fits on the white tick in this section this has been changed in accordance with Tess' polarity modding
00:21:204 (1,2) - These sliders quite fit here, but the clap in the end controverses the usage. You could also blanket 00:21:204 (1,1) - this better if you so desire. hmm, i was pretty sure this was originally done properly, probably has something to do with my later SV changes. fixed this though, should be perfectly symmetric and all although i think the clap works just fine, considering the background sound, anything else sounds empty in comparison
00:23:874 (7) - Middlepoint to x:106 y:137 for better blanket, although I'd prefer seeing 2 circles here instead. \:D/ i like how this plays currently. the blanket looks even more off using your suggestion, though, i don't think it's noticable here anyway considering i can't see how i can fix it??
00:40:837 - I think this section deserves to be mapped. 2 sliders on a lower SV or something will do. i think that goes against the feeling of the song here

01:07:225 (6) - Hmmmmm this looks a bit unrefined. If you want to show a spike in SV maybe you'd like to use red points subtly instead:
<snip> yeah, that works fine
01:18:062 (1) - Same as previous spinner. done
01:23:246 (3,4,5) - I'd place the circle at the start of this and move the spinners 1/2 afterwards in the timeline, you can tell they're off because you already have placed whistles in their ends, not giving a desired impact on what you wish to do here. yes that is true
01:28:272 (3,4,5) - The exact same thing happens here. fixed ^
01:32:984 (3) - I don't see why this is a slider and not a couple of circles since you have claps on both its ends. this section doesn't need more circles than it does - ending claps have been softened a bit(added drum-hitnormal sounds to them), and a couple minor changes to this section
Generally many sliders with double claps on this section, consider adding more circles! ^
01:49:397 (1) - Same thing as all your spinners. was fixed
01:59:450 (1,1) - This slider is very wrong. You can fix it if you shorten the spinner by 1/2 and adding a reverse arrow to it extended backwards. done
02:09:424 (1) - I think this fits better at 3/4 rhythmically and flows better in the current structure. huh. probably a SV mistake from my part
02:10:680 (1,2) - Reversing the order of these two objects gives a more desirable impact. done for everything but two(the final ones of their 10 second parts)
02:15:706 (1,2) - Same here.
02:18:219 (1,2) - Also here. this occurrence has not been fixed, as i think it goes better with the music here, as does its 02:28:272 (1,2) - counterpart
02:20:732 (1,2) - Maybe I'll stop mentioning them (?)
The kiai has the same circle > slider issue at some parts, take a look at those.
02:48:062 (1) - This slider ends on a normal-hitnormal + whistle. It deserves to be clicked. End the slider 1/4 or even 1/2 sooner this works as a buildup for the next part, i do not agree with changing it
02:49:633 (1) - Removing the arrow and adding a circle functions better than what you have right now imo:
<snip> ^
02:54:973 (2) - Again a slider with same impact on both ends. This should turn into two circles as well. yeah
03:09:895 (1) - The sound at the spinner's end is too impactful for players not to click it. Shorten by 1/2 or something and add a circle! done
03:18:534 (1) - Saaaaaaame! ok
03:32:827 (2,3) - Stack issue here. You should fix that what? i don't know what a "stack issue" is, nor do i see anything wrong
03:39:267 (1,1) - NICE SPINNER BLANKET! thanks!!
03:45:078 (1) - You could make a circle > slider that ends 1/4 before the next beat to show the dragged sound that is there. Gives more playfulness to the map \:D/ i hate it when people do this, so i'm not gonna do it here
04:09:895 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I see what you're doing here, but I think this is a big too much spacing. Changing it to 0.8 still gives a desired effect, considering the rest of your streams are somewhere between 0.6 and 0.7 i can hit this consistently enough(95+%) that i don't think i'll change it if not more people bring this up
04:25:759 (3) - This is way better off turning into two sliders, it is pretty unexpected there and people WILL get confused. changed in accordance with Tess' mod
04:28:272 (3) - Same issue here.
04:30:785 (3) - Well you get the point.
04:49:633 (1,2,3) - The first slider is not there in the music unfortunately. Maybe circle at the start of the slider? changed into a triple, then
05:13:821 (8) - Remove the reverse arrow and place a circle. The end is a lot more impactful than what slider suggests. ok
05:18:298 (5,4) - Another stack issue here, fix that if you want still don't get it
05:23:717 (5) - Circle at the start of the slider and 1/2 slider where the reverse arrow is now located would give a better feel. no, i think this goes better with the melody here
05:25:759 (2,3,4,5) - You did this better than the previous section I mentioned, which is effectively the same in the music. not exactly
05:40:523 (1) - Spinner issueeeeeeesssssssssss >.< fixed
05:46:177 (5,6,7) - Hmm you could spam 1/4 there. If not, why not try to blanket 7 to 6? did the latter, a stream didn't really fit
06:01:885 (1) - Would be a good idea placing a circle where the spinner starts and start the actual spinner 1/4 later. There is a pretty nice sound there that can be mapped instead of starting to rotate your mouse/pen.
[/notice] removed the spinner, added circle

This map is very pretty! Nice pattens overall, I also enjoy the song. Good choice, and good luck! thanks!

nice mod, thanks for the help.

Andreas will have to wait some more because i'm tired now

kossc

10 posts

Joined February 2013

kossc 2014-11-24T11:40:13+00:00

Mod as requested.

01:28:586 (4) - Felt as if I was following the piano and then suddenly this came in and ruined that. Consider putting a single there instead.
01:29:528 - Would have preferred if you continiued to follow the piano and place a note here.
01:54:031 (3,4,5) - Doesnt feel like these need to be there. (01:59:057 (3,4,5) - same here)
02:09:424 (1) - If you listen closely, this sounds quite a bit off beat.
03:04:397 (10,11) - Try moving this one beat forward and deleting 03:04:869 (1) -. I think that would work. I believe that this is something that could be done in multiple places aswell. (I'm lazy you know where)
05:41:937 (1) - Rest of the map felt like the same pattern over and over. Consider remapping.

Kaguya Hourain

514 posts

Joined October 2012

Kaguya Hourain 2014-11-24T14:33:25+00:00

Have a couple of stars

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2014-12-11T23:09:10+00:00

placeholder to come here tomorrow
hi

General

pls link http://sukimastudio.com/191/ somewhere in description so ppl like me don't have to search for that manually lel
why is HP 6.1, decimal hp makes like not that much sense in most situations and i'd say it doesn't make that much sense here either
is the SB wip? because the following files aren't really used by it: cloud.png, ExaVid.png as well as ExaVid.pdn (idk what ExaVid.pdn even is lol)
cool song btw
would make combo 1 slightly darker since it blends in with the Bg pretty much in most of the map

Exodus

Googled what this big word means, still doesn't make more sense to me. AR 9.2 would play more smoothly for me at least but that's biased
so uhh this looks a little bit unpolished, let's see what i can do to help here
00:06:125 (7) - should try even distance from and to this thing i think that'd feel less forced
00:07:539 - adding a circle here and starting the spinner just on the next 1/4 tick is not only acceptable but also doesn't make you skip a whistle as you did on 00:05:026 (1,1) - etc
00:10:445 (3,4) - , 00:12:958 (3,4) - , 00:15:471 (2,3) - see how you do that differently basically every time you use that rhythm (talking about the way you stack these 2 to objects), well yeah, deciding on like 2 or 3 different ways to do that would probably be a good idea instead of doing it differently every time because that way looks a bit messy imo (applies to all other instances in map ofc)
00:12:879 - i see that you wanted to stay rhythmically consistent with 00:10:366 - and stuff but this tick has a really loud piano so idk
so apparently this strong piano sound is there like every 2nd downbeat and you ignore it consistently while i really think it should be mapped
00:14:607 (8,9) - transition between these objects is uhhm not that good, you could move 9 down and rotate it a bit to make this play more smoothly
00:28:586 (7,8) - would not skip the red tick in this pattern, and do something like that instead
Example
also shouldnt you swap 00:28:900 (9,1) - the ncs?
00:26:230 (1,2) - i wouldn't have these be 2 sliders at all, firstly one of them ends on a downbeat and secondly the white ticks are so much louder than the red ones so having them as objects you can actually click would represent the song better imo
00:45:392 (4,5,6) - the way this triangle overlaps every sliderend in the pattern doesn't look that nice, you could basically avoid all overlaps here by doing a jump pattern similar to 00:43:664 (4,5) - with maybe less distance or something because sounds are similar
00:51:989 (5) - whistle ?
01:03:612 (5,6) - why do you space these that way
01:00:314 (1) - special slidershape and maybe sv change for this sound could be also appropriate, just saying, if you do that use combo 6 for it to mark it as somewhat special idk
01:09:109 (8) - nc lol
01:24:188 - why would you skip this
01:46:649 (1) - jump here is unnecessarily big for no apparent reason
02:21:989 (1,2,3,4,5) - based on how you did spacing previously i think these are too close to each other
02:26:230 (3) - moving this to 208|104 would probably make more sense with your previous patterns imo
02:48:062 (1) - please don't end sliders on a whistle finish downbeat aa, besides the vocal could be split up like this:
Example
02:59:842 (12,1) - the transition here could be like a lot better
03:08:481 (2) - due to the jump previously chances are that the next stream feels uncomfortably close
03:14:450 (2) - why distance so small when being bigger everywhere else
03:17:905 - could use same sv change as you did in 03:12:565 - cuz similar and stuff
03:21:989 (1) - just look at how consistent the spacing looks ... 0.6x spacing on 1.3x sv is 0.78x spacing on 1.0sv so distance between 6 and 1 should be this
03:42:251 - normal sampleset with soft addition on head pls and a whistle
03:49:633 - add a circle please
03:50:890 - ^ because of 03:45:549 (2,3,4) - , 03:43:350 (2) - 03:41:937 (2,3) - ..
04:40:837 (2) - you never used wiggle sliders for this kinda sound and i don't think it fits that well so would go with either circles instead or a smoother slidershape to be consistent with the rest
05:24:502 (1,2,3) - could you be so kind to avoud overlaps in patterns like these, just barely touching looks not that good
05:38:324 (3,4) - different shape why
01:07:853 (1) - normal sampleset for this one
01:24:031 (7) - whistle on head because 01:29:057 (6) -
02:14:764 (5) - auto sampleset instead of drum and a clap because of 02:12:251 (5) -
02:56:073 (3) - needs a normal sampleset and maybe similar sounds as 02:54:502 (12,1,2,3) - for the whole pattern idk
03:07:696 - you used drum additions in 03:00:157 - for something similar
04:32:670 - u lose hitsounds by skipping this
04:35:183 - ^
04:37:696 - ^
04:38:952 - ^

lol sorry for cutting this that short, but most issues the map has are general stylistic things:

Streamspacing varies for no reason throughout the whole map for doublets like 00:15:471 (2,3) - or similar cases, same applies to things like 00:16:020 (6,7) - , while it wouldn't necessarily need to
your NCing is like really inconsistent in certain parts and most importantly the Purple combocolor isn't really used with a real system, but looks more like you used it in places where you thought it could be appropriate while ignoring it in all similar places which is uhh not that good for consistency
some of your patterns could look a bit more planned with less random distancesnap

I think this map is cool, but has lots of unused potential

gl

CXu

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CXu 2014-12-14T03:10:23+00:00

Have my kds

-GN

Champion Above Champions

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-GN 2014-12-14T03:13:09+00:00

CXu wrote:
Have my kds

THANK YOU

mods will be replied to once i finish my exams and my other unrelated projects

x-treme

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x-treme 2015-02-18T10:32:53+00:00

I love this map <3

Have some stars

Foneza

105 posts

Joined February 2013

Foneza 2015-06-26T03:49:54+00:00

I'd be supporting you guys.

Overall: Nice. For now, AR is too slow. probably 9.5 should be ok.

Just be waiting for the finalised work.

-PC

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Joined July 2013

-PC 2015-09-22T12:50:23+00:00

Heihei. Før modden vil jeg si at denne banen er kjempekul. Jeg har nedenfor notert ned feil/småfeil, samt noen forslag.

[Generelt]
Veldig stilig hitsound sample som passer utrolig godt med musikken.

[Exodus]

Denne banen har flere deler hvor man ikke er helt sikker på når man skal trykke, f.eks på starten. Siden dette er en vanskelig bane antar jeg det går helt fint, spesielt siden jeg ikke har store problemer med å spille de selv.
Synes også du burde gå gjennom denne banen et par ganger og finpusse på sirkelplasseringer og gliderbevegelser.

00:19:319 (4,5,6,7,8) - denne er veldig ujevn, så gjerne lag den om igjen med glider til strøm omformer.
00:20:890 (5,6,7) - én av de få manuelt stablede triplene i denne banen, er ikke nødvendig.
00:21:832 (1,2,3,4,5) - dette mønsteret flyter veldig merkelig. Antar at du vil beholde 00:21:204 (1,2) - , og 00:21:832 (1,2) - flyter veldig bra i seg selv. Vurder å flytte de etterkommende sirklene.
00:33:298 (4,5,6,7,8) - enda en ujevn strøm, starten har lavere avstand enn resten.
00:34:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - samme som over men mer i avstandsfordeling enn vinkel. Sirklene hopper mellom rundt .05x avstandsforandring mellom hver.
00:35:811 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^ er flere av disse senere men tror jeg har fått fram mitt poeng klinkende klart.
00:41:308 (1,2,3) - misliker triplenes bevegelse. Den korte rette linja passer ikke særlig godt inn med buen til glideren. Dette er selvsagt bare en bemerkning.
00:50:418 (2,3,4) - ^
01:11:308 (1) - ville ha laget en glider av denne selv. Uansett er vel avstanden fra (1) til 01:11:623 (2) - litt vel kort i forhold til lyden på (1) og avstand i tid.
01:43:979 (1,2,3,4) - hele dette mønsteret har en ujevn bevegelse som ikke flyter særlig bra.
02:16:020 (2,3,4) - ujevn avstandsfordeling.
02:17:905 (8,9,1) - et veldig merkelig hopp, også sett på flyt fra (7). Vil foreslå noe som dette:
bilde
02:26:073 (2,3,4) - ekkel flyt til neste strøm.
03:21:832 (5,6,1) - avstandserror grunnet glider fartsendring, merkes med øyemål.
03:29:057 (3) - ikke stable denne sirkelen på gliderenden dersom du vil holde deg til dine tidligere mønster.
03:52:931 - gjerne plasser en sirkel her.
04:20:732 (1,1) - bra bruk av panning og combo farger!
04:29:842 (7) - sirkel er for nær gliderenden i forhold til tidligere mønster. Kan også bemerkes at disse mønstrene har nogenlunde variert avstand mellom glider og sirkel, f.eks 04:22:303 (7) -
04:46:020 (1,1) - ekkel flyt.
04:58:743 (7) - plasser denne sirklen slik at den er likt plassert etter mønster (5,6) med glider (3). Er litt vanskelig å formulere; her er hva jeg mener:
eksempel
(3,7) er altså (5,6) rotert 120 grader mot klokka

Synes selv dette har bedre flyt, men du kan også plassere 7 nærmere 04:58:900 (1) -

Etter denne modden spillte jeg mappet noen ganger og kan si at delene jeg varsler om dårlig flyt kan være helt galt og de faktisk ikke flyter så værst like vel.
Lykke til, håper du gjør ferdig dette mappet og får det ranked!

B1rd

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B1rd 2015-09-23T08:59:29+00:00

Just gonna give my 2 cents, this feels extremely overmapped, most of the streams don't seem to be mapped to anything and it's like they're just there for the sake of it. I think it'd be better if most of the streams were removed except for when the song actually calls for it.

-GN

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Topic Starter

-GN 2015-09-23T13:33:17+00:00

B1rd wrote:
Just gonna give my 2 cents, this feels extremely overmapped, most of the streams don't seem to be mapped to anything and it's like they're just there for the sake of it. I think it'd be better if most of the streams were removed except for when the song actually calls for it.

turn up your volume. the 1/4s are clearly audible.

for the most part it follows the taiko diff of the same song, so that's my reason for not dropping them - it's a tribute thing

e: " 05:14:136 (1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/384926 feil hitsound, -GN "

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B1rd

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B1rd 2015-09-28T07:29:22+00:00

You're right, there are 1/4ths but often they're almost inaudible. Doesn't really change my opinion.

Lust

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Lust 2015-11-09T22:55:17+00:00

Please come back, will mod if needed

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-GN 2015-11-09T23:34:18+00:00

AndreasHD

Exodus

04:39:895 Remove this inheriting section, because it's for no use.

done

00:00:471 (1) - I just really feel the stopmotion right before this note, and that makes me wanna put a NC on it, up to you though.

nah, i feel there's some flow between music notes for (2,3) which the pattern reflects. too nice to change

00:05:497 (3) - Same here ^ and probably the rest of the same shit.

^

00:07:539 It would be pretty cool if you made this spinner begin with no sound, but end with higher and higher volume. It would also follow the music pretty good.

that's cool, done

00:10:209 (1) - Ehm, is this missplaced? It'll looks better if you put it in the center of the map.

remapped

00:18:062 (3) - Consider using 1,8X DS on this, looks much smoother with more gap between those two sliders (2) & (3)

remapped

00:23:874 (7) - drag the end of this slider just a tiny bit up, (use grid snap off) to make the blanket better.

done

00:23:874 (1) - NC

nope

00:27:329 (4) - Move this two grids down and two grids left (gridlevel 4) so that it make more sense with 00:27:172 (3) - on how far away the sliders they are placed.

done

00:29:371 (2) - This could be stacked on top of the beginning of this slider 00:28:272 (4) - but to not screw up your beautiful pattern, let's just move all these 00:29:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - together two grids right and one down.

nah. the perfect symmetry is nice

00:30:157 (1) - when playing this, your cursor are coming from this 00:29:999 (6) - and are therefore wanting the same direction from the slider, meaning if you drag the end point and the middle point down, like this
<pic>
It'll feel smoother to play.

oh god this mod is so old your puushes died, i don't know what you mean

00:42:565 (3) - Woah! so many nodes in this slider lol, make it simple like this?
It also end up smoother.

had to use several points to get the exact curve i wanted though

00:45:706 (6) - I see what you were trying to do here, but it only make this note looks like a bad overlap.. however, it makes the map more interesting.. keep it if you want, just look at it and think carefully if you really want it.

indeed keeping this

00:47:591 (3) - Make this curve around 00:47:277 (1) -

good point

00:54:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I liked how you put the notes at the end of the sliders here compared to the previous pattern I talked about.

i didn't, so changed it in accordance with the other pattern :^)

01:11:308 (1) - Remove NC

redone

01:11:623 (1) - NC:arrow: redone

01:14:136 (1) - ^

ok

01:16:649 (1) - ^

nope

01:24:502 (1) - The end of this slider is extremly close to the end of (6).. consider spaceing that slightly.

alright

01:33:926 (1) - NC just as you did here 01:32:670 (1) - ???

oops i'm dumb

01:49:397 (1) - make the volume thing again? : D

yeah

02:10:680 (1) - Make a jump out of this note instead? would be awesome.

following drums here

02:13:193 (1) - This one is very close to the hp-bar, please, just for the sake of it, one grid down or something, it's gonna look better.

ok

02:45:078 (6) - ^

this is fine

03:21:989 (1) - two grids to the right. (gridlvl4)

what, that wouldn't work at all

03:26:701 (3,4,5) - You actually have to drag these ones away from the HP-Bar, this one is a must.

oh ok

04:01:884 (1) - Remove NC

ok

04:04:554 (1) - You can improve this blanket so much, please do so.

o-okay

04:56:387 (1) - remove the red node here? make it look smoother by doing that.

redone

05:01:099 (1) - NC? not sure right here, but I feel its easier to know that it's gonna be a jump from 05:01:099 (1) - to 05:01:256 (1) - if you make it a NC.

no, this works well as is

05:03:298 (4,5) - Blanket these

impossible with the direction i want them to take

05:15:863 (4,5) - ^

^

05:57:800 (7) - You can't overlap HP-Bar as before.

redone

05:46:492 (7) - oh and btw, you can blanket better with (6) here if you want.

^

Okay, so this map is pretty long, but it flows well with the music. It has good potential, and I like it overall.
Good luck with eventual ranking and stuff!! and let's hope this mod was useful somehow.

it was, thanks a lot

kossc

Mod as requested.

01:28:586 (4) - Felt as if I was following the piano and then suddenly this came in and ruined that. Consider putting a single there instead.

nah, this works if you listen to the piano sounds and imagine the ends are silent. surprisingly so, actually
01:29:528 - Would have preferred if you continiued to follow the piano and place a note here.

couldn't pull this off in a satisfying way
01:54:031 (3,4,5) - Doesnt feel like these need to be there. (01:59:057 (3,4,5) - same here)

i removed the final circle, as the first two follow echo but the last one is overmap!!
02:09:424 (1) - If you listen closely, this sounds quite a bit off beat.

eeh, while the sliderend is technically offbeat from the thing i pretend to follow it'd be extremely weird for the player to try to follow it, i see it as an "acceptable simplification"
03:04:397 (10,11) - Try moving this one beat forward and deleting 03:04:869 (1) -. I think that would work. I believe that this is something that could be done in multiple places aswell. (I'm lazy you know where)

i don't know \D:/ but fixed here. it should play well
05:41:937 (1) - Rest of the map felt like the same pattern over and over. Consider remapping.

done in a much more satisfying manner!
Thanks for the mod!

Okoratu

General

pls link http://sukimastudio.com/191/ somewhere in description so ppl like me don't have to search for that manually lel i don't actually need to do that, do i
why is HP 6.1, decimal hp makes like not that much sense in most situations and i'd say it doesn't make that much sense here either to annoy people \:D/ jk, fixed to 6
is the SB wip? because the following files aren't really used by it: cloud.png, ExaVid.png as well as ExaVid.pdn (idk what ExaVid.pdn even is lol) will probably remove it
cool song btw thank
would make combo 1 slightly darker since it blends in with the Bg pretty much in most of the map[/list done]

Exodus

Googled what this big word means, still doesn't make more sense to me. AR 9.2 would play more smoothly for me at least but that's biased mass departure. it was cool. also i won't change the AR probably
so uhh this looks a little bit unpolished, let's see what i can do to help here well that's what mods are for, i change stuff every now and then though
00:06:125 (7) - should try even distance from and to this thing i think that'd feel less forced made a nice even curve instead, it flowed well
00:07:539 - adding a circle here and starting the spinner just on the next 1/4 tick is not only acceptable but also doesn't make you skip a whistle as you did on 00:05:026 (1,1) - etc alright
00:10:445 (3,4) - , 00:12:958 (3,4) - , 00:15:471 (2,3) - see how you do that differently basically every time you use that rhythm (talking about the way you stack these 2 to objects), well yeah, deciding on like 2 or 3 different ways to do that would probably be a good idea instead of doing it differently every time because that way looks a bit messy imo (applies to all other instances in map ofc) attempted defaulting to 0.7x spacing(or a stack depending on context)
00:12:879 - i see that you wanted to stay rhythmically consistent with 00:10:366 - and stuff but this tick has a really loud piano so idk not following the piano here
so apparently this strong piano sound is there like every 2nd downbeat and you ignore it consistently while i really think it should be mapped i know what you mean, but i don't agree
00:14:607 (8,9) - transition between these objects is uhhm not that good, you could move 9 down and rotate it a bit to make this play more smoothly don't think it matters much, but done
00:28:586 (7,8) - would not skip the red tick in this pattern, and do something like that instead puush died, but skipping the red tick works well imo
<pic>
also shouldnt you swap 00:28:900 (9,1) - the ncs? redone
00:26:230 (1,2) - i wouldn't have these be 2 sliders at all, firstly one of them ends on a downbeat and secondly the white ticks are so much louder than the red ones so having them as objects you can actually click would represent the song better imo at this point all the focus is on the loud sound playing, the sliders here work better than following the drums with extra spacing here
00:45:392 (4,5,6) - the way this triangle overlaps every sliderend in the pattern doesn't look that nice, you could basically avoid all overlaps here by doing a jump pattern similar to 00:43:664 (4,5) - with maybe less distance or something because sounds are similar okay i did a bit of extra rotation/scale
00:51:989 (5) - whistle ? ok
01:03:612 (5,6) - why do you space these that way i wanted to keep a "losing intensity/spacing" thing with the pattern
01:00:314 (1) - special slidershape and maybe sv change for this sound could be also appropriate, just saying, if you do that use combo 6 for it to mark it as somewhat special idk wouldn't fit
01:09:109 (8) - nc lol okay that makes sense
01:24:188 - why would you skip this following something else
01:46:649 (1) - jump here is unnecessarily big for no apparent reason 1/1
02:21:989 (1,2,3,4,5) - based on how you did spacing previously i think these are too close to each other true, changed
02:26:230 (3) - moving this to 208|104 would probably make more sense with your previous patterns imo thanks
02:48:062 (1) - please don't end sliders on a whistle finish downbeat aa, besides the vocal could be split up like this: puush dead, but shortened the slider
<pic>
02:59:842 (12,1) - the transition here could be like a lot better rotated slider a bit
03:08:481 (2) - due to the jump previously chances are that the next stream feels uncomfortably close minor changes
03:14:450 (2) - why distance so small when being bigger everywhere else fixed, in accordance with the mirror 5 seconds into the map
03:17:905 - could use same sv change as you did in 03:12:565 - cuz similar and stuff it does not have the same sound
03:21:989 (1) - just look at how consistent the spacing looks ... 0.6x spacing on 1.3x sv is 0.78x spacing on 1.0sv so distance between 6 and 1 should be <dead> redone, i think
03:42:251 - normal sampleset with soft addition on head pls and a whistle okay
03:49:633 - add a circle please sounded cool
03:50:890 - ^ because of 03:45:549 (2,3,4) - , 03:43:350 (2) - 03:41:937 (2,3) - .. also done
04:40:837 (2) - you never used wiggle sliders for this kinda sound and i don't think it fits that well so would go with either circles instead or a smoother slidershape to be consistent with the rest it was a mirror of the previous but eh, i smoothed it out
05:24:502 (1,2,3) - could you be so kind to avoud overlaps in patterns like these, just barely touching looks not that good changed
05:38:324 (3,4) - different shape why what
01:07:853 (1) - normal sampleset for this one it already was
01:24:031 (7) - whistle on head because 01:29:057 (6) - oops
02:14:764 (5) - auto sampleset instead of drum and a clap because of 02:12:251 (5) - different intensities
02:56:073 (3) - needs a normal sampleset and maybe similar sounds as 02:54:502 (12,1,2,3) - for the whole pattern idk put clap on (3), hitsounding from earlier doesn't work here
03:07:696 - you used drum additions in 03:00:157 - for something similar they're very different in structure, so nah
04:32:670 - u lose hitsounds by skipping this intended
04:35:183 - ^
04:37:696 - ^
04:38:952 - ^

lol sorry for cutting this that short, but most issues the map has are general stylistic things:

Streamspacing varies for no reason throughout the whole map for doublets like 00:15:471 (2,3) - or similar cases, same applies to things like 00:16:020 (6,7) - , while it wouldn't necessarily need to addressed
your NCing is like really inconsistent in certain parts and most importantly the Purple combocolor isn't really used with a real system, but looks more like you used it in places where you thought it could be appropriate while ignoring it in all similar places which is uhh not that good for consistency the pattern is that i switch between pink/purple for every pattern where i mapped the specific loud sounds which should be VERY CLEAR if you look at the mapping
some of your patterns could look a bit more planned with less random distancesnap

:arrow: i changed a bunch of them, stuff should fit better
I think this map is cool, but has lots of unused potential

some people enjoy it, some people do not

gl

thanks for a detailed mod. that nominator status was well deserved

-PC

Heihei. Før modden vil jeg si at denne banen er kjempekul. Jeg har nedenfor notert ned feil/småfeil, samt noen forslag.

[Generelt]
Veldig stilig hitsound sample som passer utrolig godt med musikken.

takk, men den er tatt rett fra default-skinnets normal-hitnormal.wav... men veldig fint at hitsoundingen gir mening.

[Exodus]

Denne banen har flere deler hvor man ikke er helt sikker på når man skal trykke, f.eks på starten. Siden dette er en vanskelig bane antar jeg det går helt fint, spesielt siden jeg ikke har store problemer med å spille de selv. har allerede adressert dette i en tidligere mod, tror jeg - har prøvd å gjøre double-ene så inituitive som mulig.
Synes også du burde gå gjennom denne banen et par ganger og finpusse på sirkelplasseringer og gliderbevegelser. får prøve, men vet ikke helt hva du mener med gliderbevegelser.

00:19:319 (4,5,6,7,8) - denne er veldig ujevn, så gjerne lag den om igjen med glider til strøm omformer. fikset.
00:20:890 (5,6,7) - én av de få manuelt stablede triplene i denne banen, er ikke nødvendig. men har ingenting å si for gameplay.
00:21:832 (1,2,3,4,5) - dette mønsteret flyter veldig merkelig. Antar at du vil beholde 00:21:204 (1,2) - , og 00:21:832 (1,2) - flyter veldig bra i seg selv. Vurder å flytte de etterkommende sirklene. prøvd, men vet ikke hvor mye jeg liker å bryte med hvordan de andre like mønstrene ser ut
00:33:298 (4,5,6,7,8) - enda en ujevn strøm, starten har lavere avstand enn resten. fikset
00:34:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - samme som over men mer i avstandsfordeling enn vinkel. Sirklene hopper mellom rundt .05x avstandsforandring mellom hver. fikset. skyldes nok skalering.
00:35:811 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^ er flere av disse senere men tror jeg har fått fram mitt poeng klinkende klart. har sett igjennom
00:41:308 (1,2,3) - misliker triplenes bevegelse. Den korte rette linja passer ikke særlig godt inn med buen til glideren. Dette er selvsagt bare en bemerkning. buet
00:50:418 (2,3,4) - ^ endret på flere andre her også
01:11:308 (1) - ville ha laget en glider av denne selv. Uansett er vel avstanden fra (1) til 01:11:623 (2) - litt vel kort i forhold til lyden på (1) og avstand i tid. gjort i forrige mod
01:43:979 (1,2,3,4) - hele dette mønsteret har en ujevn bevegelse som ikke flyter særlig bra. enig, endret
02:16:020 (2,3,4) - ujevn avstandsfordeling. remappet
02:17:905 (8,9,1) - et veldig merkelig hopp, også sett på flyt fra (7). Vil foreslå noe som dette: liker hoppet og beholder det der, men har remappet hele comboen og gjort hoppet litt mindre i neste iterasjon
<pic>
02:26:073 (2,3,4) - ekkel flyt til neste strøm. endret
03:21:832 (5,6,1) - avstandserror grunnet glider fartsendring, merkes med øyemål. fikset i forrige mod
03:29:057 (3) - ikke stable denne sirkelen på gliderenden dersom du vil holde deg til dine tidligere mønster. fikset i forrige mod
03:52:931 - gjerne plasser en sirkel her. hører lyden, men tror ikke jeg burde mappe den
04:20:732 (1,1) - bra bruk av panning og combo farger! takker!
04:29:842 (7) - sirkel er for nær gliderenden i forhold til tidligere mønster. Kan også bemerkes at disse mønstrene har nogenlunde variert avstand mellom glider og sirkel, f.eks 04:22:303 (7) -
04:46:020 (1,1) - ekkel flyt. er uenig, men flyttet sirkelen litt
04:58:743 (7) - plasser denne sirklen slik at den er likt plassert etter mønster (5,6) med glider (3). Er litt vanskelig å formulere; her er hva jeg mener:
<pic> gjort, men har større spacing fra 6 -> 7

Etter denne modden spillte jeg mappet noen ganger og kan si at delene jeg varsler om dårlig flyt kan være helt galt og de faktisk ikke flyter så værst like vel.
Lykke til, håper du gjør ferdig dette mappet og får det ranked!

jeg også! takk for en flott norsk mod \:D/

alright, done. fixed a bunch of things not listed, too.

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

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Okoratu 2015-11-17T07:19:44+00:00

U think so i remember i cringed as i read the mod again lately

Mainly cuz i realised im dumb and stuff

-GN

Champion Above Champions

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Topic Starter

-GN 2015-11-17T10:01:44+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
U think so i remember i cringed as i read the mod again lately

Mainly cuz i realised im dumb and stuff

hey, it was very thorough for a mod even though there was stuff you didn't really get in the map, and i'm very thankful for your work

do you have any other passing thoughts now, several months later after your initial mod, maybe?

bahamete

54 posts

Joined July 2011

bahamete 2015-11-18T15:56:49+00:00

Mainly suggestions I suppose.

00:07:225 (6,7,1) - This jump seems inconsistent and arbitrary to me. It feels fine to play but I'm not sure of the purpose.
00:11:937 (8) - There is a strong beat on the blue tick. This may work well as a 1/4 reverse.
01:03:219 (3,4,5,6) - Why do the stacks change spacing, here? Looks weird to me, at least.
01:24:816 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The music sounds much more to me such as

03:22:617 (4,5) - I just noticed, these sliders which follow the weird synth are prevalent throughout the song. And I realise, the synth starts and ends 1/8 off-beat. I don't know if it's a problem for ranking, but it would really hinder playability to place them on time to the synth. I think it's fine what you've done :p
03:25:445 (1,2) - I think it would play better if spacing was reduced and sliders extended to the blue ticks. There is a beat on blue ticks.
03:30:471 (1,2) - ^
03:35:497 (1,2) - ^
03:48:534 (2,3) - Note on white tick? Strong beat
03:53:560 (3) - ^
04:09:895 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - The angle of the jump hinderered flow a lot for me while playing.
05:03:926 (8) - The overlap on the note and big jump means it's very easy to miss. I didn't notice it.
05:14:136 (1) - ^, though much much more minor

This song and map is so nice. So, good luck.

-GN

Champion Above Champions

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Topic Starter

-GN 2015-11-19T02:37:34+00:00

Tasty Beverage wrote:
Mainly suggestions I suppose.

00:07:225 (6,7,1) - This jump seems inconsistent and arbitrary to me. It feels fine to play but I'm not sure of the purpose. kinda mirroring 00:02:198 (5,6) - i suppose, but it was badly done
00:11:937 (8) - There is a strong beat on the blue tick. This may work well as a 1/4 reverse. cool
01:03:219 (3,4,5,6) - Why do the stacks change spacing, here? Looks weird to me, at least. well, several people pointed it out so i suppose i'll change it
01:24:816 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The music sounds much more to me such as

*snip* i don't agree with your version, but i removed the second circle of the stream which i think is better

03:22:617 (4,5) - I just noticed, these sliders which follow the weird synth are prevalent throughout the song. And I realise, the synth starts and ends 1/8 off-beat. I don't know if it's a problem for ranking, but it would really hinder playability to place them on time to the synth. I think it's fine what you've done :p yeah, but i doubt it'll be a problem - it's an "acceptable simplification" in my eyes, just like 02:09:424 (1) - ends a bit too late.
03:25:445 (1,2) - I think it would play better if spacing was reduced and sliders extended to the blue ticks. There is a beat on blue ticks. pretty interesting. it plays pretty well, so why not?
03:30:471 (1,2) - ^
03:35:497 (1,2) - ^
03:48:534 (2,3) - Note on white tick? Strong beat didn't like how these sounded or played
03:53:560 (3) - ^
04:09:895 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - The angle of the jump hinderered flow a lot for me while playing. unsure how to go about this, but https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3984339 does this work any better, you think?
05:03:926 (8) - The overlap on the note and big jump means it's very easy to miss. I didn't notice it. oh, definitely agree on that one. i was gonna change it, but forgot to do it like three times
05:14:136 (1) - ^, though much much more minor changed this one too a bit, then. shouldn't matter much anyway

This song and map is so nice. So, good luck. happy to hear that

thanks for the mod! you raised some very good points, so it helped quite a bit.

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

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Nathan 2015-11-23T06:22:26+00:00

o/

00:14:136 (2,3) - slightly offscreen
00:20:890 (5,6,7) - I disagree with the triplet here, most of the accentuation goes on the 3rd circle, but since the stronger one is actually the first I think it's better to go with a 1/4 repeat/1/4 slider and circle
00:25:916 (4,5,6) - ^
00:27:172 (3,4,1) - such a wide angle with uneven spacing between 4 and 1 causes a pretty awkward deceleration after the huge acceleration of 3 ->4, I don't get the decrease in spacing between 4 and 1 anyways, 1 is still a pretty strong sound, either even up the spacing or make the angles sharper
00:40:366 (2) - I think a 1/2 slider would work well here, 00:40:523 (3) is a pretty weak sound while 2 has a snare on it
01:07:225 (6) - imo just doing a slight wave with grey nodes fits the visual context of the map more
01:13:586 (4) - ends on a very loud sound hmm, I think using 3 circles instead of the 1/4 sliders feels better idk, weird rhythm lol
01:21:047 (4,5,6,7) - asdf messy little overlap
02:23:089 (9,1) - weird decrease in spacing again, especially since 9 is a stronger sound
03:33:298 (6,7,1) - ^asdf
05:01:570 (3) - I think a 1/2 slider would be better here, it at least maps out 05:01:727 with a tail and makes 05:01:884 clickable

very nice and unique structure, i can recheck after a few more mods

-GN

Champion Above Champions

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Topic Starter

-GN 2015-11-26T02:37:23+00:00

sukiNathan

o/

\o

00:14:136 (2,3) - slightly offscreen i could swear this used to look different. fixed
00:20:890 (5,6,7) - I disagree with the triplet here, most of the accentuation goes on the 3rd circle, but since the stronger one is actually the first I think it's better to go with a 1/4 repeat/1/4 slider and circle done
00:25:916 (4,5,6) - ^
00:27:172 (3,4,1) - such a wide angle with uneven spacing between 4 and 1 causes a pretty awkward deceleration after the huge acceleration of 3 ->4, I don't get the decrease in spacing between 4 and 1 anyways, 1 is still a pretty strong sound, either even up the spacing or make the angles sharper changed. my new solution should work(a lot) better
00:40:366 (2) - I think a 1/2 slider would work well here, 00:40:523 (3) is a pretty weak sound while 2 has a snare on it i want to keep the distinction here
01:07:225 (6) - imo just doing a slight wave with grey nodes fits the visual context of the map more agreed
01:13:586 (4) - ends on a very loud sound hmm, I think using 3 circles instead of the 1/4 sliders feels better idk, weird rhythm lol changed to 4 circles instead(and restructured pattern after)
01:21:047 (4,5,6,7) - asdf messy little overlap wow
02:23:089 (9,1) - weird decrease in spacing again, especially since 9 is a stronger sound moved (8,9). i hope it works better
03:33:298 (6,7,1) - ^asdf moved the jump
05:01:570 (3) - I think a 1/2 slider would be better here, it at least maps out 05:01:727 with a tail and makes 05:01:884 clickable i'd like to keep the pressure reduced after the funky triangle pattern before to give it more "weight", if you get what i mean. i think a shorter slider + click would actually be less satisfying

very nice and unique structure, i can recheck after a few more mods

will do. i'll get back to you later, and thanks for the mod and the compliment!

MillhioreF

Pro Tester

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Joined July 2011

MillhioreF 2015-11-26T03:21:39+00:00

Stopping by for a quick mod, the map is really great (even if I can't play it properly, some of these rhythms are crazy) so most of these are just suggestions.

00:18:769 (1,2) - I feel like this should be unstacked for the sake of consistency (there are no other doubles perfectly stacked like this)
00:31:570 (2,3,1) - Not sure this should be 1.1x spacing since most other 1/4 in the section is 0.8x (including 00:36:596 (2,3,1) which is basically the same pattern)
01:00:314 (1,2,3) - The somewhat lowered distance here after the previous jumps made me think that (2) was on the white tick instead of the blue one, I'd increase the spacing if possible but that may just be me being bad.
03:27:801 (4,5) - This jump is a little confusing because of the increased spacing here, even it out maybe?
03:48:219 (1) - I think this sounds better as just a 1/8 slider without the repeat attached. This goes for all future instances of this 1/8 repeat slider too (03:58:272 (1) -, 04:08:324 (1) -, 04:18:376 (1) - )
04:24:816 (7) - This note is too close to the slider before it compared to the other instances of that pattern in this section.
05:34:240 (6) - NC here?

-GN

Champion Above Champions

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Topic Starter

-GN 2015-11-27T14:08:30+00:00

MillhioreF

Stopping by for a quick mod, the map is really great (even if I can't play it properly, some of these rhythms are crazy) so most of these are just suggestions.

00:18:769 (1,2) - I feel like this should be unstacked for the sake of consistency (there are no other doubles perfectly stacked like this)

done
00:31:570 (2,3,1) - Not sure this should be 1.1x spacing since most other 1/4 in the section is 0.8x (including 00:36:596 (2,3,1) which is basically the same pattern)

respaced both to 0.9x for emphasis
01:00:314 (1,2,3) - The somewhat lowered distance here after the previous jumps made me think that (2) was on the white tick instead of the blue one, I'd increase the spacing if possible but that may just be me being bad.

it's probably you being bad but i increased spacing anyway
03:27:801 (4,5) - This jump is a little confusing because of the increased spacing here, even it out maybe?

oops, accidentally dragged that one too far i bet
03:48:219 (1) - I think this sounds better as just a 1/8 slider without the repeat attached. This goes for all future instances of this 1/8 repeat slider too (03:58:272 (1) -, 04:08:324 (1) -, 04:18:376 (1) - )

i was always worried about breaking by hitting too late here, i suppose this'll alleviate that
04:24:816 (7) - This note is too close to the slider before it compared to the other instances of that pattern in this section.

oh, true
05:34:240 (6) - NC here?

ok

thanks for the quick mod \:D/

Lust

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Lust 2015-12-02T00:47:15+00:00

Sorry for the delay!

[Exodus]
Let me preface this by saying that the rhythms you employed in this song are a bit unorthodox to what some people might be accustomed to -- which is perfectly fine (especially the way you execute it). However, in order to accommodate this, I would recommend making your hitsounds sound more pronounced so players can pick up on the rhythms you chose easier.

00:07:617 (1,1) - watch out for the light blue combo color here, the default spinner's blue color can make it hard to see especially when you consider the map's mostly white bg. I would change the color for this one combo -- the purple one you have atm looks pretty good for it. Just click on 00:10:052 (1) - , go to the new combo button, and hit the arrow to change it (you probably know this already)
00:21:204 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this feels a little too sharp to feel natural during play, but I can see what you're trying to do with the flow. My suggestion to remedy this is to turn 00:21:204 (1) - into two circles while maintaining the circular flow -- this will make them launchpads into 00:21:518 (2) - as well as keeping a nice rhythm. Then maybe move 00:22:146 (3) - this closer to 00:21:518 (2) - 's head to keep that circular flow moving
00:25:916 (4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4) - this is some great stuff here man, nice work!
00:36:596 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - ^
01:11:308 (3) - This fast momentum moving downwards comes to an abrupt end because of the 1/2 gap you used, I would extend the slider to the blue tick so the momentum continues and can cover that sound accurately
01:29:685 (1,2) - I'd space these out so that there can be enough momentum to carry the cursor through to the rest of 01:29:999 (3,4,5) - . Something like 424:160 works nicely
01:50:575 (1) - Same recommendation I gave before about the combo colors, would be a good idea to change the color for this particular combo due to the spinner
03:09:581 (1,2) - Maybe this jump is just a little too large given the lack of momentum coming in. 03:09:738 (2) - could also be hard to find due to its location. 288:344 could be a good place for it

Thats about it from me, second half looked pretty nice! Good luck -GN~

-Visceral-

644 posts

Joined August 2012

-Visceral- 2015-12-17T03:22:42+00:00

[General]

Disable Widescreen Support.

[Exodus]

00:06:596 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - I feel the jump should be between 00:07:382 (7,1) instead of 00:07:225 (6,7) to better accent the downbeat. Where you have it now seems kinda random.

00:20:104 (1,5) - Make pretty :B Likewise:
01:52:774 (2,4) - ^
03:25:759 (2,1,2) - ^

00:21:204 (1) - I'm not a fan of this slider ending on the downbeat. It's much better to have something clickable on a powerful line of the song (in this example, the kick). Maybe replace it with a triple, or do something so it doesn't end on that powerful kick. Likewise:
00:26:230 (1) - ^
00:31:256 (1) - ^
00:36:282 (1) - ^
02:51:989 (11) - ^
02:59:528 (11) - ^
04:03:455 (1) - ^

00:33:769 (1,2) - Swap NCs to remain consistent with the rest of the song.

00:33:926 (2,3,4) - This plays super awkward because it's different spacing, but a super linear series of jumps. Likewise:
02:55:445 (7,1,2,3) - ^. Spacing changes here feel pretty random.

00:34:869 (11,1) - I feel this jump could be bigger.

00:48:691 (4,5) - Feels too large and too snappy for a soft part of the song. Consider making them closer together. Likewise:
01:59:057 (5,6) - ^

01:07:853 (1,2) - You upheld bigger spacing than this throughout similar parts in this section. I feel this jump should remain consistent with the rest. It feels rather small right now.

01:29:685 (1,2,3,4,5) - Increase of spacing is rather drastic and abrupt here for not much of a buildup at all. Hard to read.

01:32:827 (2,3,4) - Feels like too much of a spacing difference here.

03:08:010 (5,1,2) - Not sure why you have the same spacing for a 1/2 jump and a 1/4 jump here without much of a change in the song.

03:12:565 (1,2) - Pretty funky sound here. Perhaps try to make the sliders here more interesting and distinct rather than have a regular curve.

03:53:560 (3,4) - These are some of the only angled sliders in the song, and it seems like a random time to introduce them here.

04:19:947 (7) - Extremely likely this is offscreen.

04:10:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why the huge spacing here? Seems like the only time in this kiai that the spacing is so large.

04:31:099 (4,1) - Fix your blanket Mr. Blanket Fanatic sir :^ )

04:44:607 (1,2,3,4) - More even spacing would play better here. Seems random as it is.

05:07:382 (1,2,3) - Feels like very low spacing compared to the earlier parts in the kiai.

05:56:780 - This beat should be mapped.

Warrock

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Joined June 2013

Warrock 2015-12-17T12:45:26+00:00

03:58:272 (1,2) - should be spaced more like you did at 03:48:219 (1,2) - and 04:08:324 (1,2) - and 04:18:376 (1,2) -
04:01:256 (1,2,3,4) - these feel a little bit overspaced compared to the other minisliders in the map
03:59:057 - 03:59:685 - if you map those beats it flows better imo
01:54:031 (5,6) - 01:59:057 (5,6) - put them closer to eachother would fit with the song more

02:58:115 - could make a short stream leading up to the slider, imo it fits better
03:08:167 - ^ maybe you like it your way better
02:48:062 (1,2,3,4) - or you could do like you did here with all of them to keep it consistent

04:32:670 - empty?
04:35:183 - ^

I tried

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

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Topic Starter

-GN 2015-12-28T04:51:34+00:00

Lust

Sorry for the delay!

[Exodus]
Let me preface this by saying that the rhythms you employed in this song are a bit unorthodox to what some people might be accustomed to -- which is perfectly fine (especially the way you execute it). However, in order to accommodate this, I would recommend making your hitsounds sound more pronounced so players can pick up on the rhythms you chose easier.

i raised the hitsound volume of key parts a little, but i don't see the need for new samples at this point as they would be hard to implement properly. i disagree strongly with putting in custom soft-hitnormals even though the default ones suck - i just wouldn't recommend using the default skin if you want accuracy for this anyway

00:07:617 (1,1) - watch out for the light blue combo color here, the default spinner's blue color can make it hard to see especially when you consider the map's mostly white bg. I would change the color for this one combo -- the purple one you have atm looks pretty good for it. Just click on 00:10:052 (1) - , go to the new combo button, and hit the arrow to change it (you probably know this already) i don't want to put in the purple combo color here as it'd clash with the pattern i use for them - i rotated the color cycle a little so the blue doesn't appear in front of the spinner, though
00:21:204 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this feels a little too sharp to feel natural during play, but I can see what you're trying to do with the flow. My suggestion to remedy this is to turn 00:21:204 (1) - into two circles while maintaining the circular flow -- this will make them launchpads into 00:21:518 (2) - as well as keeping a nice rhythm. Then maybe move 00:22:146 (3) - this closer to 00:21:518 (2) - 's head to keep that circular flow moving i couldn't really get myself to like the beat placements of this - i'd also like to keep the feel of the pattern as it is right now, so no change
00:25:916 (4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4) - this is some great stuff here man, nice work! thank you!
00:36:596 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:11:308 (3) - This fast momentum moving downwards comes to an abrupt end because of the 1/2 gap you used, I would extend the slider to the blue tick so the momentum continues and can cover that sound accurately done. nice!
01:29:685 (1,2) - I'd space these out so that there can be enough momentum to carry the cursor through to the rest of 01:29:999 (3,4,5) - . Something like 424:160 works nicely the circles are mapped to the same uhh... pitch, so i had them very close to each other since they don't really need momentum - didn't change this much
01:50:575 (1) - Same recommendation I gave before about the combo colors, would be a good idea to change the color for this particular combo due to the spinner i don't think it matters that much when they're both gray instead of blue. if anything they'd blend in with the background, but they don't really do that, either...
03:09:581 (1,2) - Maybe this jump is just a little too large given the lack of momentum coming in. 03:09:738 (2) - could also be hard to find due to its location. 288:344 could be a good place for it i never found this very difficult but now that i looked at it it seemed kinda ridiculous. i want the symmetry, but i scaled it down to a 2.1x jump now

Thats about it from me, second half looked pretty nice! Good luck -GN~

thanks a lot! i'll get this ranked someday, i promise. \:D/

Smoothie World

[General]

Disable Widescreen Support.

fair enough, i guess

[Exodus]

00:06:596 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - I feel the jump should be between 00:07:382 (7,1) instead of 00:07:225 (6,7) to better accent the downbeat. Where you have it now seems kinda random.

i agree, but it was hard to find a spot where it fit. i spaced (7,1) more to accentuate the downbeat(so now (6,7,1) is the same), and that looks less dumb.

00:20:104 (1,5) - Make pretty :B Likewise:

huh, done
01:52:774 (2,4) - ^
03:25:759 (2,1,2) - ^

this was weird but i stacked the (2)s

00:21:204 (1) - I'm not a fan of this slider ending on the downbeat. It's much better to have something clickable on a powerful line of the song (in this example, the kick). Maybe replace it with a triple, or do something so it doesn't end on that powerful kick. Likewise:

i'd prefer not to for the first 4, because the sliders are vital to the feel of the pattern in accordance with the music, but i changed the next 3 + a couple other occurences
00:26:230 (1) - ^
00:31:256 (1) - ^
00:36:282 (1) - ^
02:51:989 (11) - ^
02:59:528 (11) - ^
04:03:455 (1) - ^

00:33:769 (1,2) - Swap NCs to remain consistent with the rest of the song.

done, but also restructured

00:33:926 (2,3,4) - This plays super awkward because it's different spacing, but a super linear series of jumps. Likewise:

should be ok now
02:55:445 (7,1,2,3) - ^. Spacing changes here feel pretty random.

same

00:34:869 (11,1) - I feel this jump could be bigger.

done

00:48:691 (4,5) - Feels too large and too snappy for a soft part of the song. Consider making them closer together. Likewise:

i disagree, i think this works
01:59:057 (5,6) - ^

changed this, though

01:07:853 (1,2) - You upheld bigger spacing than this throughout similar parts in this section. I feel this jump should remain consistent with the rest. It feels rather small right now.

i don't think so, i always thought of it as starting a new pattern and following the drums after that

01:29:685 (1,2,3,4,5) - Increase of spacing is rather drastic and abrupt here for not much of a buildup at all. Hard to read.

that was the point since it goes from pause to a quite fast section after, but i personally found it pretty intuitive considering the music

01:32:827 (2,3,4) - Feels like too much of a spacing difference here.

agreed with it feeling weird, respaced a bit

03:08:010 (5,1,2) - Not sure why you have the same spacing for a 1/2 jump and a 1/4 jump here without much of a change in the song.

weird how i never noticed that, changed

03:12:565 (1,2) - Pretty funky sound here. Perhaps try to make the sliders here more interesting and distinct rather than have a regular curve.

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4219568 should be fancy enough

03:53:560 (3,4) - These are some of the only angled sliders in the song, and it seems like a random time to introduce them here.

alright then, curved nicely

04:19:947 (7) - Extremely likely this is offscreen.

i shortened this earlier, it's fine now

04:10:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why the huge spacing here? Seems like the only time in this kiai that the spacing is so large.

because of the loud BG sound

04:31:099 (4,1) - Fix your blanket Mr. Blanket Fanatic sir :^ )

mean. to be fair it's not really off

04:44:607 (1,2,3,4) - More even spacing would play better here. Seems random as it is.

well, it makes sense but plays like shit and i fixed it now

05:07:382 (1,2,3) - Feels like very low spacing compared to the earlier parts in the kiai.

i think spacing it out further puts pretty high pressure on the player because of the recovery from the sliders and it also looks nice

05:56:780 - This beat should be mapped.

well, i had to do it for all 4 streams then

thanks for the mod, man!

warrock

03:58:272 (1,2) - should be spaced more like you did at 03:48:219 (1,2) - and 04:08:324 (1,2) - and 04:18:376 (1,2) -

oh, sure. spaced second pair a bit more too
04:01:256 (1,2,3,4) - these feel a little bit overspaced compared to the other minisliders in the map

agreed, put at 1.6x
03:59:057 - 03:59:685 - if you map those beats it flows better imo

mapped the first one with a sliderend, but the second one didn't really work for me
01:54:031 (5,6) - 01:59:057 (5,6) - put them closer to eachother would fit with the song more

a second look made me change my mind, smaller spacing now

02:58:115 - could make a short stream leading up to the slider, imo it fits better

don't think that fits
03:08:167 - ^ maybe you like it your way better

don't think there's anything to map a stream to, either
02:48:062 (1,2,3,4) - or you could do like you did here with all of them to keep it consistent

those don't really need to be consistent either, since i follow another beat placement there

04:32:670 - empty?

intended!
04:35:183 - ^

I tried

and thanks so much for your efforts

whew

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Nathan 2015-12-28T17:19:13+00:00

removed unused hitnormal and osb

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-GN 2015-12-28T17:29:33+00:00

thank you \:D/

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BeatofIke 2015-12-30T08:00:12+00:00

I didn't find any issues. The map is good in my eyes.
Bubble #2~

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Okoratu 2015-12-30T21:56:01+00:00

Hi,
you didn't ask me explicitly to check a bubble but i'm just doing that anyways

[things]
1. This is a tribute to Dolphin's Taiko marathon (great map to practice dkkkd patterns on because i suck at those its end always kills me)
going by that logic you should actually use a default diffname fitting to the online icon this has, because Dolphin did same for the sake of simplicity i guess
just a thought tho
2. Pretty sure you should fix this. The gray is waaaay too similar to read the approach circles of your hitobjects over your bg.
Problems you will have are:
if you make it too dark everyone who dims your bg will hate you and disable colors
if you make it too light it'll cause epileptic strobing during kiai
and if you use gray you're fucked too because that blends in with the bg
going for a completely different color altogether or mixing gray with some other color might be the solution that doesn't upset many people
3. 04:09:424 (1) - I'm worried about this wobble because it slightly manipulates the sliderspeed in its beginning and could be done in a way that looks exactly the same but manipulates more
also p/2615668

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Other conceptual thoughts (mostly about streamspacing lol):
00:16:649 (1,2,3) - these don't fit the actually pretty circle-heavy overall concept within this part (I assume each part is one bookmark)
00:39:345 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - why is streamspacing drastically different you used 0.8x or 0.75x (not going to nitpick on these 2 because the difference they make can be disregarded), this looks like you just ran out of space and decided to make streamspacing smaller
doesn't go that well with the song either because nothing really hints at a slowdown
01:01:727 (2,3,4,5,6) - 01:04:397 (2,3,4) - any apparent reason for this to break average stream spacing of this part which averages around 0.8
01:13:586 (4,5,6,7) - shouldn't this have more spacing to accentuate the whatever instruments in 01:13:664 (5,6,7) - at least somehow
02:13:821 (4,5,6,7) - seem out of place within their respective part also considering the next part has full circles for everything they seem even more out of place
03:07:539 (1,2,3,4,5) - streamspacing seems out of place again
03:18:534 (1) - the held sound that this spinner maps seems to start fading in 03:19:162 - so starting the spinner there and mapping the rest might make more sense but this doesn't really matter much i guess silencing its end seems really really unnecessary though.
03:36:910 (5,6,7) - why .5x ?_?

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other things that seemed worth mentioning
00:47:591 (3,4) - i think stacking this with 00:47:434 (2) - and going for an upwards jump works better than semi-breaking distance to do a horizontal jump but might just be me
02:09:424 (1) - makes sense and stuff but it's so different and from the other repeat sliders that i don't think just doing a repeat in a similar fashion which just lasts longer really does this justice, i'd try if forcing people to klick the rhythm irregularity feels better: http://puu.sh/me4oP/f9ea50a2ad.jpg
03:00:314 (2,3,4,5,1) - considering the song the spacing between 4->5 shouldn't be such a big jump, the bigger jump should likely be from 5->1 because that's what the song stresses lol
03:16:020 (1,2) - could have a bigger jump instead of something small and linear maybe stacking 03:16:178 (2,3) - works

[]
I think that's everything noteworthy the 2nd half was much more consequent with the way it handles things.
I overall i think you can work on streamspacings a bit more, i'd recommend to be at least somewhat consequent with them within each part

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Okoratu

Hi,
you didn't ask me explicitly to check a bubble but i'm just doing that anyways

[things]
1. This is a tribute to Dolphin's Taiko marathon (great map to practice dkkkd patterns on because i suck at those its end always kills me)
going by that logic you should actually use a default diffname fitting to the online icon this has, because Dolphin did same for the sake of simplicity i guess
just a thought tho

that seems pretty boring although i sorta like the idea.
i asked a bit around and people told me they liked the diff name as is though - it helped them remember the map, and they didn't think most people would bother. so i guess no change
2. Pretty sure you should fix this. The gray is waaaay too similar to read the approach circles of your hitobjects over your bg.
Problems you will have are: <snip>

so, the solution is picking a more saturated color, right? i pushed all the colors a bit towards darker blue - yellow clashes a bit less, and my gray color doesn't blend in as much now and i thought it looked nice on default skin https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4248286
3. 04:09:424 (1) - I'm worried about this wobble because it slightly manipulates the sliderspeed in its beginning and could be done in a way that looks exactly the same but manipulates more
also p/2615668

hmm, i think that's more for thin long wiggles, but i changed it a bit anyway http://gn.s-ul.eu/mC5ZxZoO

[]
Other conceptual thoughts (mostly about streamspacing lol):
00:16:649 (1,2,3) - these don't fit the actually pretty circle-heavy overall concept within this part (I assume each part is one bookmark)

oh that's definitely a good point. changed to circles
00:39:345 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - why is streamspacing drastically different you used 0.8x or 0.75x (not going to nitpick on these 2 because the difference they make can be disregarded), this looks like you just ran out of space and decided to make streamspacing smaller

might look that way now but originally the pattern was very different
doesn't go that well with the song either because nothing really hints at a slowdown

originally i did it because it was close to the slow part, i'll increase it a bit(0.65) but i don't want a full spaced stream there
01:01:727 (2,3,4,5,6) - 01:04:397 (2,3,4) - any apparent reason for this to break average stream spacing of this part which averages around 0.8

this part was a bit hard to read with a weird beat placement so i decreased spacing a bit, then a mod had me increase the spacing of the doubles and i never touched that one. increased to 0.8
01:13:586 (4,5,6,7) - shouldn't this have more spacing to accentuate the whatever instruments in 01:13:664 (5,6,7) - at least somehow

i find it's accentuated well enough with the angle and the short spacing. just increasing the spacing here wouldn't fit well imo
02:13:821 (4,5,6,7) - seem out of place within their respective part also considering the next part has full circles for everything they seem even more out of place

ok lol that was dumb of me
03:07:539 (1,2,3,4,5) - streamspacing seems out of place again
03:18:534 (1) - the held sound that this spinner maps seems to start fading in 03:19:162 - so starting the spinner there and mapping the rest might make more sense but this doesn't really matter much i guess silencing its end seems really really unnecessary though.

it's a copied version of the start, although it's sorta inconsistent with a part that comes later so i mapped the first 4 1/2s. i don't think it needs a beat at the end because it ends slightly early, so i silenced it since i want the strong start of the next section i have
03:36:910 (5,6,7) - why .5x ?_?

changed to 0.7 because of consistency with this 03:31:884 (3,4,5) - , but it's mapped to a special sound so it's a little shorter

[]
other things that seemed worth mentioning
00:47:591 (3,4) - i think stacking this with 00:47:434 (2) - and going for an upwards jump works better than semi-breaking distance to do a horizontal jump but might just be me

i disagree, that wouldn't fit
02:09:424 (1) - makes sense and stuff but it's so different and from the other repeat sliders that i don't think just doing a repeat in a similar fashion which just lasts longer really does this justice, i'd try if forcing people to klick the rhythm irregularity feels better: http://puu.sh/me4oP/f9ea50a2ad.jpg

if http://gn.s-ul.eu/7KmDiXof is acceptable, i'll gladly go for that. i can read it fine, however i don't know about other since it's an irregularity which -might- cause sightreaders to break because they don't understand the song here(although i guess there's a forewarning in the music which i don't map to earlier, maybe attentive people will get it?)
03:00:314 (2,3,4,5,1) - considering the song the spacing between 4->5 shouldn't be such a big jump, the bigger jump should likely be from 5->1 because that's what the song stresses lol

fine
03:16:020 (1,2) - could have a bigger jump instead of something small and linear maybe stacking 03:16:178 (2,3) - works

sorta mirroring the first pattern in the map, 00:00:000 (1,2,3,4) -

[]
I think that's everything noteworthy the 2nd half was much more consequent with the way it handles things.

well, considering half a year passed between start and finish i'm pretty sure i became a better mapper by then lol
I overall i think you can work on streamspacings a bit more, i'd recommend to be at least somewhat consequent with them within each part

i found that the kiais had the most issues with this, so i went through and respaced a couple to fit the perceived intensity of each part better. other than that i didn't really change much

thanks a lot for the mod, addressed important problems i never took much of a look at.
other than this i also checked the special combo colored sliders so they look a bit fancier

e: oh also an irc mod, fixing some inconsistencies with NCing and sounds

logs

00.19 Okoratu: about the color: how about 132, 142, 174
00.21 -GN: well sure
00.30 Okoratu: and 02:09:659 (2,3,4) - was now super hard to read correctly i'd say that idea of mine was not the best idea i ever had for that pattern thing lol
00.32 Okoratu: the way you do wave sliders is funny
00.32 -GN: yeah, i didn't know about that one
00.32 -GN: lazy waves
00.32 -GN: i'll just revert it to the old version of that pattern then
00.33 Okoratu: yea
00.35 Okoratu: 05:21:204 (1,2,3,1) - shouldn't emphasis-wise spacing between 3->1 be bigger than 2->3
00.40 -GN: yeah i guess that makes more sense
00.40 -GN: now to find a jump pattern that works
00.42 Okoratu: that's why i'm kinda hesitant with making suggestions like these because the previous jump pattern worked very well lol
00.52 -GN: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4250974 alright, this'll do
00.52 -GN:

00.54 Okoratu: o cool
00.54 Okoratu: the next few things have been rearranged then i guess
00.55 -GN: yeah
00.55 -GN: changed stuff up to 05:23:089 (1) -
00.55 -GN: where i just horizontally flipped the next 2 patterns
00.55 -GN: the flow into the next pattern improved, too i guess
01.00 -GN: i think that color you suggested is kinda dark though
01.02 Okoratu: and i thought your current thing was still too blendy with bg lol
01.04 Okoratu: i suggested it because i can read it both over the bg and over black
01.06 Okoratu: overall comboing looks like you jsut somehow comboed this entire thing
01.06 Okoratu: e.g. 05:35:340 (1) - 05:32:827 (9) -
01.07 Okoratu: idk if i should care about this because it doesn't affect any gameplay but uh
01.11 -GN: uhh
01.11 -GN: what do you mean
01.13 Okoratu: both have similar piano hits but one is a new combo and one isn't and i'm pretty sure that stuff happens all the time so idk if i should care or not
01.15 -GN: i guess i'll just move the nc from the next circle to that
01.15 -GN: 05:35:340 (1,2) - since the same thing is done here
01.15 Okoratu: what i was trying to say is that im sure that there are more "inconsistencies" like those but uh i don't really want to care about these tbh
01.16 -GN: well unless you point them out to me i'm not gonna notice them
01.18 Okoratu: 00:13:821 (8) - conflicts 00:11:308 (1) -
01.18 Okoratu: 00:16:335 (7,8) - 00:23:874 (7) - 00:28:900 (9) - do the same
01.18 Okoratu: 00:38:795 (1,2) - should swap ncs for that reason
01.20 Okoratu: 00:44:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:49:476 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - comboing of these 2 patterns also seem to conflict each other
01.20 Okoratu: 01:06:596 (9,1) - should swap comboing
01.27 Okoratu: 02:52:146 (11) - not sure about this usually you combo on downbeats in kiai but doing it like 02:55:759 (1,2,3) - for that drum pattern also makes sense
01.30 Okoratu: after some considering i think it'd make sense to swap 02:51:989 (10,1) - 02:54:502 (12,1) - 02:57:015 (12,1) - 02:59:528 (10,1) - 03:02:041 (10,1) - 03:05:811 (8,1) - 03:07:068 (10,1) - to be consequent with drums
01.31 Okoratu: 03:24:816 (9,1) - should probably also be swapped
01.31 -GN: 00:50:261 (1) - this is NCed because it starts following the drums
01.31 -GN: applied all before that
01.32 Okoratu: 03:32:041 (5,6) - shouldn't these be a woosh slider in a colorhax
01.33 Okoratu: 03:32:356 (7,1) - should swap combos i guess
01.33 Okoratu: 03:38:010 (1) - seems to conflict basically most of the comboing in that part i'm not 100% sure though
01.35 Okoratu: some part of 04:12:408 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - seems to conflict 04:01:256 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
01.35 Okoratu: in terms of combos
01.36 Okoratu: 04:19:947 (7) - was this planned without a combo
01.39 Okoratu: ok the combopattern from 04:41:308 - to 04:51:361 - is either too complex for me to understand or not existent
01.41 Okoratu: 05:06:596 (11,1) - should swap combos, 05:07:382 (1,3) - should also swap and 05:08:481 (1,3) - should also swap i guess
01.42 Okoratu: 05:11:623 (2) - 04:46:335 (1) - aren't these same sound
01.43 Okoratu: w/e about the 5:06 i just found out there's a system
01.44 Okoratu: 06:00:157 (1) - i don't think theis should have a combo though
01.55 -GN: applied all except for 5:06 and 5:11 then
01.55 -GN: the same sound is there for 5:11 but there's very little emphasis on it
01.55 -GN: so i didn't map it the same
01.55 Okoratu: oh ok
01.55 -GN: was that everything
01.56 Okoratu: i think so
01.56 -GN: okay, then uploading
02.01 Okoratu: 00:16:335 (7) - 00:23:874 (7) - 00:28:900 (9) - any reason for not swapping combos with the next object i think you said you did that lol
02.02 -GN: oh
02.02 -GN: lol
02.02 -GN: i interpreted that as making the first one consistent with the two other
02.02 -GN: because that was two circles
02.05 -GN: ok, uploaded that
02.06 Okoratu: 02:51:989 (10,1) - should swap i guess
02.07 -GN: oh, misunderstood that too
02.09 Okoratu: ok i have one more question
02.11 Okoratu: 00:07:617 (1) - blue tick after last circle 01:18:062 (1) - red tick after last circle 01:49:476 (1) - red tick after last circle 01:59:450 (1) - 2nd blue tick after last circle 03:09:816 (1) - next blue tick after last c 03:19:083 (1) - same as prev 03:39:306 (1) - 1/8 after last circle
02.11 Okoratu: why
02.12 -GN: good question
02.12 Okoratu: applies to other spinners after as well
02.13 -GN: all 1/2s now
02.14 Okoratu: oke
02.14 Okoratu: i'm out of questions now
02.15 -GN: then all is well
02.16 -GN: updated

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-01-02T01:26:44+00:00

you provided the log i wanted to provide

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