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Ymir

Polyspora wrote:

Ymir wrote:

You will never be able to change your race ever, so it's best you learn to love yourself and strive to be the greatest you can be.
uh dummy, I dont think thats the point of the conversation :D >:(
Mate he said he feels inferior to black males, I don't see why he should feel inferior because of some other races genetics.
Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Ymir wrote:

You will never be able to change your race ever, so it's best you learn to love yourself and strive to be the greatest you can be.
uh dummy, I dont think thats the point of the conversation :D >:(
Mate he said he feels inferior to black males, I don't see why he should feel inferior because of some other races genetics.
uh remi black, uh aireu black, hmmm black males ok!!!!!!!
Winnyace

Polyspora wrote:

oh penis size lmao, point and laugh guys! someone is falling for a social construct

most of the other aspects you can change so yeah, people dont need to adapt to you, if you're the one chasing females YOU are the one that needs to adapt lol, it always has been like this, with all animals in this world.

here goes some tips!
1. stop talking about linux like its a lifeline
2. lose weight fatty
3. go out more, you'll find no one online.
4. clean your room
5. take a bath


also uh avoid talking about sexual stuff in an all ages game forum pretty please <3
lmao
Ymir

Poly is built for BBC?


Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

Poly is built for BBC?


negative sir
Polyspora

Winnyace wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

oh penis size lmao, point and laugh guys! someone is falling for a social construct

most of the other aspects you can change so yeah, people dont need to adapt to you, if you're the one chasing females YOU are the one that needs to adapt lol, it always has been like this, with all animals in this world.

here goes some tips!
1. stop talking about linux like its a lifeline
2. lose weight fatty
3. go out more, you'll find no one online.
4. clean your room
5. take a bath


also uh avoid talking about sexual stuff in an all ages game forum pretty please <3
lmao
most genuine laugh from winnyace
xch00F
MENDES Black Male [ANOTHER]
B0ii
yo i'm fucking autistic
xch00F
I have the same fear actually but instead of black dudes it's dudes with their foreskin intact
Jangsoodlor
who's afraid of the big black?
Ymir

Jangsoodlor wrote:

who's afraid of the big black?
Commit Allen Student
xch00F
sometimes I like to think about this dumb thing that happened to me several years ago. it's kinda funny, mostly morbid.

I was scanning the dark web for information regarding collection 1 and stumbled across a site with free access to a bunch of leaked passwords. out of curiousity, I looked up the email address for the facebook account I had used while I was in the army and actually found a password. what's insane is that the password worked. this account went back to like '07 and had loads of pictures, messages, friends, etc. very cool lmao. quickly pulled a data download and I have it all backed up now. I knew I had military buddies added so I typed in a name into search and found out he was dead. does that still count as dying for the country.
Lapizote

Winnyace wrote:

Writing this made me realize that I am a bit of an incel too, which is 100x more unattractive than being a nerd without much of an interest towards what people around his age are typically into that isn't very traditionally attractive, so yeah, perhaps I should try to work through my behavior rather than worry about being unattractive.
i like to think of incelhood as a case of a positive feedback loop:

1. you start becoming a bit more "incel"-minded
2. it starts seeping into your behavior
3. you become less desirable to other people
4. being less desired means you tend to put more focus into your "incelhood" mindset
5. repeat from step 1

get out of the loop before it does something rly bad - relax and don't dwell on it too much, focus on being improving yourself and being happy alone first
sametdze
i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.
xch00F

Lapizote wrote:

get out of the loop before it does something rly bad - relax and don't dwell on it too much, focus on being improving yourself and being happy alone first
you can be happy alone, tho I think there's a distinction to be made between "being alone" and "feeling lonely"

sametdze wrote:

i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.
can you not report them, especially if you have receipts
sametdze

Winnyace wrote:

I feel inferior to black males because of they're usually bigger, stronger and in general have more sex appeal than me.
i was in a really bad mood earlier but this post genuinely made me laugh and be happy. thanks winnyace :D
Patatitta

sametdze wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I feel inferior to black males because of they're usually bigger, stronger and in general have more sex appeal than me.
i was in a really bad mood earlier but this post genuinely made me laugh and be happy. thanks winnyace :D
honestly it is one of the wildest posts in OT IMO
sametdze

xch00F wrote:

sametdze wrote:

i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.
can you not report them, especially if you have receipts
i don't really have any solid proof other than a "no mf" that was sent to me by one of the bullies, even if i did have big amounts of proof i dont believe the school would take any action
Lapizote

xch00F wrote:

you can be happy alone, tho I think there's a distinction to be made between "being alone" and "feeling lonely"
oh yeah i meant alone in the context of being literally "involuntarily celibate"

by all means get friends, it's just that being overly dwelling on being "attractive" and having a relationship or "losing one's celibateness" will never go well
Winnyace

Lapizote wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Writing this made me realize that I am a bit of an incel too, which is 100x more unattractive than being a nerd without much of an interest towards what people around his age are typically into that isn't very traditionally attractive, so yeah, perhaps I should try to work through my behavior rather than worry about being unattractive.
i like to think of incelhood as a case of a positive feedback loop:

1. you start becoming a bit more "incel"-minded
2. it starts seeping into your behavior
3. you become less desirable to other people
4. being less desired means you tend to put more focus into your "incelhood" mindset
5. repeat from step 1

get out of the loop before it does something rly bad - relax and don't dwell on it too much, focus on being improving yourself and being happy alone first
100% agree. It's what I'm trying to do currently and it is working pretty well. Sometimes it is hard, yes, but it is getting easier.
Winnyace

xch00F wrote:

Lapizote wrote:

get out of the loop before it does something rly bad - relax and don't dwell on it too much, focus on being improving yourself and being happy alone first
you can be happy alone, tho I think there's a distinction to be made between "being alone" and "feeling lonely"
Yes. It's why I'm trying to reframe these feelings as a positive and think that these moments are the perfect times for doing something new or spending some time tending to my (mental) garden.
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Wimpy Cursed

sametdze wrote:

i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.
awww they like you!

No. I would suggest not giving them attention, that's why they keep fucking with you.
Though that may make them try harder for attention.. But you can still ignore it.
Really the only option I can think of.
Ymir

sametdze wrote:

i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.
Fuck man, this is a heavy read considering you're a chill guy. Honestly I'd give you advice but I never really got bullied, especially by girls, and any time something like this happened I'd take things too far and narrowly miss getting in serious trouble. I got lucky, but whatever you do don't take it nuclear and start punching on unless you really have to, it can escalate mad far from there.

Are your friends not any help? Is there any way to record this stuff happening before reporting it? Even then, I'm aware that snitching is a big nono.
Do you also happen to have a big group of friends to hang out with?

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

sametdze wrote:

i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.
awww they like you!

No. I would suggest not giving them attention, that's why they keep fucking with you.
Though that may make them try harder for attention.. But you can still ignore it.
Really the only option I can think of.
I understand where you're trying to go with this, and I'm aware this works with most cases, but I'm not sure if you can just ignore being physically assaulted. If I were a bully pushing someone around and they weren't doing anything back, I'd just keep doing it, that's the bully mentality there.
sametdze
well, i'm not entirely alone. these girls pick on a few other boys in my class and in the other class. the boys in my class that are getting bullied are starting to get fed up with the girls and everything so they're gonna go tell sub-school. i wanna stay far away from these girls as possible because they genuinely frighten me. its gotten so bad to the point where i cant even sleep on a sunday because i know next morning at 9:00 i'm gonna have to deal with all the bullying again. hell, when they mention my name my heart suddenly starting pumping and my legs become noodles, that's how scared i am of them. now, back to the whole boys telling sub school thing. they've seen what happens to me and they're roping me into the whole thing, so on monday i'm gonna have to tell sub school everything when i dont want to. i dont want to tell sub school because i know if something happens, it'll only make things worse than they are now. i mainly want to avoid these girls as much as i possibly can, and telling sub school will likely make me have to face them. i just wish they wouldnt do this anymore. i'm genuinely shaking as i write this because just thought of having to even talk to them scares me. that's why i wanted to end school early, so i could avoid these girls. i mostly refrained from talking about it on OT because being all sad and worried is obviously not my thing, and its not like you guys would take it seriously. but now its gotten to the point where i genuinely cannot keep my fear contained in myself and i feel as if i have to tell someone or some people that i know wouldn't judge me. lord, please help me. mate not even the kids helpline can help me, the operator just said "it'll be fine, just deal with it" like how the fuck am i supposed to deal with it? how am i supposed to deal with the constant name calling? how am i supposed to deal with the locker shoving? how am i supposed to deal with the fear? for fucks sake your job is to make me feel welcome and safe not a retarded internet forum made for a stupid rhythm game

anyways sorry for being such a negative nancy. its been a hard time for me recently. will go back to train posting tomorrow
sametdze
also i really dont wanna get my parents and siblings involved in this whole thing because i dont want my parents to lose their heads and start doing everything i dont want them to do. my siblings also have this weird saying where it's like "*my school here* doesn't do bullying*" and i know if i told them they would be shocked and stuff. then the whole family would start worrying for me and that's not what i want for them. they deserve to be happy and live peacefully, not have constant stress because of some retarded girls and me.

so i guess for now i just gotta thug it out and hope for the best
Ymir
It's alright to tell someone, you were definitely correct in thinking that OT wouldn't be the greatest place because realistically, it definitely isn't. But I won't blame you if you truly feel like this is a medium to express yourself, because at the end of the day we're all friends here.

I'd also like to preface that I come from a school and Year level which is quite different to yours, and a lot of others.
This kind of stuff is common among other schools (along with even worse things), and it's starting to come up in our school too. I truly believe that, in my school, 2006 is the cutoff date for being not being completely fucked up, we're leaving at just the right moment.

With that context in mind, I speak through what may be somewhat different to your past and future experiences.

TLDR: Keep going, something will change.
I believe you are in Year-9? If so, it's a lot harder to deal with now than it is once you enter senior school, since you have a main form group / classroom you're stuck to. Year-10 is where you choose your own subjects, so the chances of meeting these people constantly become quite slim. A big reason that you're suffering this much might be because of your locker location, I'm not sure about your school but in mine we switch out our locker bays in the following year. So, for the bare minimum, just try and hold out until the end of the year. Eventually, you'll be at the end of Year-12 and you'll never see these people ever again in your entire life.

I did have a similar situation to you, I was never bullied per se, but there was this one guy who would really get on my nerves. Whenever he'd try and interact with me (of which was always to push me around or make fun of me), I'd also get nervous just like you. I got my confidence by branching out and making friends, the more friends I made the less I cared about the words which came my way. They didn't have to be true friends, just acquaintances that I talked to here and there. I think you should give my route a shot, always be with your mates so they feel less confident in trying to bully you, it's hard to single someone out if they're with a group. You'll get some confidence this way too.

Also, I'm not sure if this is going to ease your nerves or make it worse, but you've got a whole 6 more months (or more) of this shit to put up with. Maybe looking at the bigger picture often might help in realizing that sweating over it every Sunday isn't going to help. Obviously it's okay if it doesn't work, not everyone can just get comfortable with uncomfortable situations overnight.
Thug it out, as you said.

This biggest roadblock here is that they're girls. You can't do anything to get girls to shut the fuck up without being piled on by other classmates and staff. They always get special treatment in these cases and those girls are probably well aware.
At the same time, girls are strange. They only make fun of people who are nice, I don't see them making fun of people who get angered easily. Not suggesting anything here, I'm not liable for anything you do, but if it does give you ideas to change your behavior... well.

I realise now that my whole yarn was a big essay of nothing, but the most important takeaway here is to thug it out and trust yourself, and trust your friends.
Achromalia

sametdze wrote:

part #1
i keep getting relentlessly bullied at school by a group of girls. they often push me away from my locker when im in the middle of pulling my books and stuff out and yell things like "oh my dayz!!" and stuff when ive literally only been there for one second. i tell them to stop and stuff but they don't listen. they also like spreading rumors about other people and im scared that i'll be next. i messaged one of them to get them to stop bullying me and everything but i think they're secretly making fun of me in their little group chat. one time when they pushed me away from my locker, i pushed them back, then they went and told sub-school (sort of like a teacher who deals with shit). so far nothing has happened to me yet but i really need some words of support to get me through this. i pray to god every night for these girls to be removed from my life, but unfortunately nothing has happened. i think about kicking the bucket or making the hook sandy everyday. please, help me out here, im actually at my limit. i'm also shorter than a few of my peers including my bullies (there is a plus side to this though, i'm faster than all of them) and i think that makes me an easy target.

part #2
well, i'm not entirely alone. these girls pick on a few other boys in my class and in the other class. the boys in my class that are getting bullied are starting to get fed up with the girls and everything so they're gonna go tell sub-school. i wanna stay far away from these girls as possible because they genuinely frighten me. its gotten so bad to the point where i cant even sleep on a sunday because i know next morning at 9:00 i'm gonna have to deal with all the bullying again. hell, when they mention my name my heart suddenly starting pumping and my legs become noodles, that's how scared i am of them. now, back to the whole boys telling sub school thing. they've seen what happens to me and they're roping me into the whole thing, so on monday i'm gonna have to tell sub school everything when i dont want to. i dont want to tell sub school because i know if something happens, it'll only make things worse than they are now. i mainly want to avoid these girls as much as i possibly can, and telling sub school will likely make me have to face them. i just wish they wouldnt do this anymore. i'm genuinely shaking as i write this because just thought of having to even talk to them scares me. that's why i wanted to end school early, so i could avoid these girls. i mostly refrained from talking about it on OT because being all sad and worried is obviously not my thing, and its not like you guys would take it seriously. but now its gotten to the point where i genuinely cannot keep my fear contained in myself and i feel as if i have to tell someone or some people that i know wouldn't judge me. lord, please help me. mate not even the kids helpline can help me, the operator just said "it'll be fine, just deal with it" like how the fuck am i supposed to deal with it? how am i supposed to deal with the constant name calling? how am i supposed to deal with the locker shoving? how am i supposed to deal with the fear? for fucks sake your job is to make me feel welcome and safe not a retarded internet forum made for a stupid rhythm game

anyways sorry for being such a negative nancy. its been a hard time for me recently. will go back to train posting tomorrow

part #3
also i really dont wanna get my parents and siblings involved in this whole thing because i dont want my parents to lose their heads and start doing everything i dont want them to do. my siblings also have this weird saying where it's like "*my school here* doesn't do bullying*" and i know if i told them they would be shocked and stuff. then the whole family would start worrying for me and that's not what i want for them. they deserve to be happy and live peacefully, not have constant stress because of some retarded girls and me.

so i guess for now i just gotta thug it out and hope for the best

Ymir wrote:

It's alright to tell someone, you were definitely correct in thinking that OT wouldn't be the greatest place because realistically, it definitely isn't. But I won't blame you if you truly feel like this is a medium to express yourself, because at the end of the day we're all friends here.

approach #1
I'd also like to preface that I come from a school and Year level which is quite different to yours, and a lot of others.
This kind of stuff is common among other schools (along with even worse things), and it's starting to come up in our school too. I truly believe that, in my school, 2006 is the cutoff date for being not being completely fucked up, we're leaving at just the right moment.

With that context in mind, I speak through what may be somewhat different to your past and future experiences.

TLDR: Keep going, something will change.
I believe you are in Year-9? If so, it's a lot harder to deal with now than it is once you enter senior school, since you have a main form group / classroom you're stuck to. Year-10 is where you choose your own subjects, so the chances of meeting these people constantly become quite slim. A big reason that you're suffering this much might be because of your locker location, I'm not sure about your school but in mine we switch out our locker bays in the following year. So, for the bare minimum, just try and hold out until the end of the year. Eventually, you'll be at the end of Year-12 and you'll never see these people ever again in your entire life.

I did have a similar situation to you, I was never bullied per se, but there was this one guy who would really get on my nerves. Whenever he'd try and interact with me (of which was always to push me around or make fun of me), I'd also get nervous just like you. I got my confidence by branching out and making friends, the more friends I made the less I cared about the words which came my way. They didn't have to be true friends, just acquaintances that I talked to here and there. I think you should give my route a shot, always be with your mates so they feel less confident in trying to bully you, it's hard to single someone out if they're with a group. You'll get some confidence this way too.

Also, I'm not sure if this is going to ease your nerves or make it worse, but you've got a whole 6 more months (or more) of this shit to put up with. Maybe looking at the bigger picture often might help in realizing that sweating over it every Sunday isn't going to help. Obviously it's okay if it doesn't work, not everyone can just get comfortable with uncomfortable situations overnight.
Thug it out, as you said.

This biggest roadblock here is that they're girls. You can't do anything to get girls to shut the fuck up without being piled on by other classmates and staff. They always get special treatment in these cases and those girls are probably well aware.
At the same time, girls are strange. They only make fun of people who are nice, I don't see them making fun of people who get angered easily. Not suggesting anything here, I'm not liable for anything you do, but if it does give you ideas to change your behavior... well.

I realise now that my whole yarn was a big essay of nothing, but the most important takeaway here is to thug it out, and...

...trust yourself, and trust your friends.
...alternatively...

i didn't come into this thinking i had any possible solutions in mind and thought i would just sympathize at first. after all, i've never had this experience and can't really imagine what this might be like other than remembering the persistent harrassment and knife-carrying and stalking that went on with a dear online friend of mine from boys at her school, and neither your or her situations seem favorable or comparable-- she had a network of friends as an extrovert (though it seemed difficult to trust people due to Other Reasons) who would sympathize and maybe even stay near her to make sure they can alert her if that boy was around the corner genuinely waiting to jump her (i don't remember the course of events very well, so i might be bullshitting my own memories), but even with support she still had to be calculative while fearing for her safety, so i have to recognize that to some extent this will not remove the struggle but only marginally alleviate it. this is not to weigh the two, that's not useful and it doesn't make this better, but anecdotally it makes me think of possible cases where...

...where you not being alone in this might play in your favor, if you can have a hand in the formation of a little mutual protective network of your own for each other. boys and girls are almost equally hard to understand for me, i can't really venture to assume the boys would just immediately trust you and willingly support each other that way by watching each other's backs and alerting each other or by using social manipulation with numbers to mitigate this (although Playing A Social Game might just as well escalate things, it's something i prefer over direct physical confrontation where i legitimately hurt someone, i'm more of a quiet string-pulling vigilant observer)

but at the same time, if you're looking for options, this might qualify depending on what you notice about people. and maybe even if it doesn't seem likely, the notion that you "of all people" (assuming there's some impression of passivity that people would carry, like they did with me because of me being "robotic" to them) would actively instigate and reach out to create something, that may play a implicit part in persuasion if left unsaid, unless it seems reasonable to leverage that rhetoric

i say that largely because... i don't want to dismiss the possible validity of growing "tough" to deflect harm and harrassment, and it's not impossible to imagine that more responsive anger could maybe fend people off (although i wonder what expressions actually work in those positions that people wouldn't just mock, things that cause overwhelming intuitions like "wildly hot physically-volatile anger that shocks", or "chillingly cold anger that paralyzes and terrifies")... but at the same time, i'm not sure i can easily let that sit as your only range of suggestions/theories, and i'm not sure i agree. but this isn't about whether i agree, it ultimately depends on what will work short-term and long-term, while not sacrificing personality or social/emotional health if possible

networking and supporting people so that they can support you, arguably even "using" people in a sense. it's kind of catty (or what i assume catty would signify) but i might happen to be a catty person, i'm weak-willed and weak-bodied and i've maybe been lightly "bullied" (like, regularly-thrown food from boys that didn't really care) but i always tended to be aloof enough where it hardly mattered, and i "weaponized" situations that would get them in trouble by having people serve as physical shields without them knowing

which to me is kind of comical compared to what sincerely seems horrifying for you to experience. i wish you well. if you'd like, maybe you could update us, if few others listen, i'd still take you at your word in earnest :O i can't say i'm very good at these scenarios, but if nothing else i'm sort of a passive minimally-judgmental listener and theorizer to digest things with

i recognize this might not even be applicable or useful, but if nothing else, i hope you'll accept my sympathies
please take care <3
Serraionga
the best thing about high school is when it ends and you don't have to see those fucking cunts ever again

i don't think i've ever talked to someone who actually, genuinely "cherishes" their high school era, everyone unanimously agrees that a lot of it was just suffering and putting up with extremely obnoxious people on a daily basis (not just classmates but teachers as well)

i don't miss that time, the only thing i do miss however is the forum i used to post into back then, it had way more interesting people. but unfortunately those people are long gone, with no means of contacting them
Karmine

Serraionga wrote:

the best thing about high school is when it ends and you don't have to see those fucking cunts ever again

i don't think i've ever talked to someone who actually, genuinely "cherishes" their high school era, everyone unanimously agrees that a lot of it was just suffering and putting up with extremely obnoxious people on a daily basis (not just classmates but teachers as well)

i don't miss that time, the only thing i do miss however is the forum i used to post into back then, it had way more interesting people. but unfortunately those people are long gone, with no means of contacting them
Back in high school I was active on another forum that had cool people, it fucking died.
I still only talk to one of the people I met on there on Discord once every few months but all the others disappeared.

At least there are still people on OT, although they're not the same as before (there's me, I'm the coolest cool dude).
Winnyace

Serraionga wrote:

the best thing about high school is when it ends and you don't have to see those fucking cunts ever again

i don't think i've ever talked to someone who actually, genuinely "cherishes" their high school era, everyone unanimously agrees that a lot of it was just suffering and putting up with extremely obnoxious people on a daily basis (not just classmates but teachers as well)

i don't miss that time, the only thing i do miss however is the forum i used to post into back then, it had way more interesting people. but unfortunately those people are long gone, with no means of contacting them
I miss high school only because I didn't have nearly as many responsibilities as now.
xch00F
I ran into someone who recognized me from high school recently, my high school experience was pretty godawful so I politely told them I would rather not talk about it and we parted ways. could not imagine ever going to a high school reunion lol.
Reyalp51

Serraionga wrote:

the best thing about high school is when it ends and you don't have to see those fucking cunts ever again

i don't think i've ever talked to someone who actually, genuinely "cherishes" their high school era, everyone unanimously agrees that a lot of it was just suffering and putting up with extremely obnoxious people on a daily basis (not just classmates but teachers as well)

i don't miss that time, the only thing i do miss however is the forum i used to post into back then, it had way more interesting people. but unfortunately those people are long gone, with no means of contacting them
dare i say based
Offdensen
If i didn't have money problems i think i will be okay
Corne2Plum3
69th post
Ymir
Wah, Achromalias responses are always literary works of art.

I agree with you on the fact that my suggestions aren't the most agreeable or fail-safe (especially the case with retaliation and anger, that could also have the opposite of the intended effect), however with situations like this it's hard to find one that is. Highschool is like a different reality, and every highschool is a different version of that different reality. As I put it, the real world starts afterwards, at least that's what I always assumed. These situations could happen in the real world, but depending on where you are I imagine that there is usually a solution that can be drawn up where all goes well.
Achromalia
i agree :c it's this intersection of "experiential exclusivity of perspective" + "uniquely local ecosystems" where if there isnt a lot of reliable experience and accurate assessment of each relevant condition in someone's environment, then so much of what anyone can offer will be... intuitive projections and guesses, on average...

also ty but im worried abt the possibility my diction is a bit of a distraction from whether what i say is actually substantive and practical/nurturing (or any other targeted quality), again im not sure this will make sense for what sametdze sees but

i guess maybe these qualifiers are a given. im just afraid of imbuing it with amy impression that i say what i do under the guise of expertise. i might be kinda unqualified but id also prefer that everything can be weighed in full if/when possible, whatever it might imply, independent from my agreement. these moments seem important to not dismiss or minimize, and it's too easy to find horribly painful changes of character after these periods in people's lives. among many worries is that this would damage the level of trust had of people under impressions of others like "they wouldnt help or know how to help anyway" or "i should experience this alone and make sure not to drag anyone down with my grievances", or alternatively the risk of creating a formative generalizing impression of women/girls and create intuitions about perveived underlying "intrinsic/universal/predisposed" qualities as a result from this specific profile

...and many other possibilities. i don't know enough about y'all to assume one way or another abour how you experience and navigate the world but my having faith in y'all doesn't mean we can't share time to consider these things together to alert each other and be sure everyone (or as many as possible, et cetera) will be ok

idk
its important to me, so i take these seriously, but my sincerity isnt necessarily evident to me as being proportional to effective outcome and health
sametdze
man, i wasn't expecting this much support coming from OT out of all places. thanks to all who contributed, genuinely put a smile on my face when i was reading this and gave me some hope for today. however...

this was arguably the worst monday i've had yet.

today not so much bullying happened, and thankfully no locker shoving because today i was faster than usual. i did get into an argument about the incident with the locker shover girl and the LSG (locker shover girl) was trying to play the victim card, saying things like, "you're the bully, you shoved me". luckily the teacher who was there saw and seemed to take my side, so maybe the teachers have my back. aside from that, some of the boys that are getting bullied have gone from "opps" (short for opponents but the girls have sort of turned into a word for the people they bully) to "preppy besties" (aka someone who doesnt get bullied by them). when i asked, "am i an opp?" turns out, im gonna be an opp until i date this random girl in my class because apparently me and this random girl get shipped quite a lot (shipped means to pair two people together as if they were in a romantic relationship. this shit makes me uncomfortable af). this idea of being forced to do something doesn't apply to all of them though, it onlys seems to apply to the main two. for the other girls that just sort of tag along, i think i just have to be nice to them and they'll stop. im not gonna give into the whole dating thing though, i'm not retarded. i might do the nice thing for the others to piss off though. for the most part i was definitely pissed about the whole thing, but for now i'll just have to deal with it. there's also two boys in my class who are sorta pissing me off and they're genuinely trying to get me to date the random girl when ive made it clear that i dont want to. again, i'll just have to keep dealing with it for now, hopefully it doesn't escalate too far. i do wonder as to why the girls do that though. are they being influenced? or perhaps its puberty doing its magic with its hormones and stuff.

but anyways, enough crying about what happened at school, i should probably use this thread for its intended purpose to show how i feel. i definitely feel as if i'm trapped in a cage, and my only way out is to stop getting bullied. truth is, it's basically impossible for me to get out of that cage without doing something i dont want to do. then again, this whole date a random girl thing might work out long term when it comes to the bullying, but i really dont want to. like, really really don't want to. i could just ignore everything, but it wouldn't stop all the physical bullying and the victim card playing and everything. i really don't know what the "right" thing would be. when i'm looking for an answer to finish all of this nonsense, i want an answer that won't get my family involved and won't get my teachers involved. unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there is an answer that will fulfil this criteria, so i may have to get a teacher or two involved and maybe even my family. lord, save me
Ymir
Do not date a random girl.
Achromalia
i want to return to this and listen and respond more substantively

but for the moment, im sorry it even is like that. obligatory social pawns and the feeling that your body and personhood isnt even yours, thats what comes to mind. i can imagine plenty of reasons why it would feel like a cage

what ymir said, dont date a random student, certainly when its not sincere and would likely create untold-of amounts of painful mutual baggage :c i know that sort is already not where you plan to be anyway but i suppose it was something notable in mind

if/when i return, i could hopefully be more coherent. i hope us being here will help at least soothe you in the intermittent pauses and aftermaths, but i also imagine it could feel like it never really pauses even when they arent immediately there
Topic Starter
Wimpy Cursed
I am not trying to make fun of you with this statement, but I think the idea of them trying to make you date a random girl is funny to me.
It is such a weird setting in my head lmao
z0z

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

I am not trying to make fun of you with this statement, but I think the idea of them trying to make you date a random girl is funny to me.
It is such a weird setting in my head lmao
plot you could put in an anime
xch00F
hi um I wrote all of the girls in my class on a numbered list and rolled 1d20 to pick one and it picked u do u wanna go to the movies with me
BluePyTheWDeer_
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sametdze
well today was actually a pretty decent day. it's hard to believe it, but the girls no longer consider me an opp, which means no more bullying. i didnt even do anything, the girls just looked at me and were like "actually nah sametdze's a nice person, he's not our opp anymore"

i guess life's problems just sort of take care of themselves..? either way this was a massive W, lots of my friends were happy for me. i did go into sub-school but by that point me and LSG had worked it out. when i got out of sub-school my friends almost started a "he's not the father!" chant (at my school, going into sub-school is compared to being on one of those shows where they try to figure out the child's parents. getting into some sort of trouble means you're the father, but if not, you're not the father) but that was quickly shut down. as for LSG, it turns out she was in some drama with some other guy so she had to stay in sub-school, but that story doesn't involve me so i don't care


but overall, what i notice from this whole situation is that from the time period that i was an opp, i genuinely wasn't happy. i wasn't eating as much, wasn't railfanning as much, pretty much just wasn't myself. ever since the girls sort of left me alone, i can see myself slowly becoming myself again. i guess there wasn't really a need to go here and cry every day after school.

tldr: i had a good day today and i feel better
Ymir
Congrats, that's refreshing to hear.
Corne2Plum3
Nice
Achromalia

sametdze wrote:

well today was actually a pretty decent day. it's hard to believe it, but the girls no longer consider me an opp, which means no more bullying. i didnt even do anything, the girls just looked at me and were like "actually nah sametdze's a nice person, he's not our opp anymore"

i guess life's problems just sort of take care of themselves..? either way this was a massive W, lots of my friends were happy for me. i did go into sub-school but by that point me and LSG had worked it out. when i got out of sub-school my friends almost started a "he's not the father!" chant (at my school, going into sub-school is compared to being on one of those shows where they try to figure out the child's parents. getting into some sort of trouble means you're the father, but if not, you're not the father) but that was quickly shut down. as for LSG, it turns out she was in some drama with some other guy so she had to stay in sub-school, but that story doesn't involve me so i don't care


but overall, what i notice from this whole situation is that from the time period that i was an opp, i genuinely wasn't happy. i wasn't eating as much, wasn't railfanning as much, pretty much just wasn't myself. ever since the girls sort of left me alone, i can see myself slowly becoming myself again. i guess there wasn't really a need to go here and cry every day after school.

tldr: i had a good day today and i feel better
this is genuinely incredibly relieving, i sure fucking hope that'll mean you'll get to be ok, and i hope they'll... learn to not be horribly destructive/manipulative people, i guess? idk what those girls have going on in their lives, and i'm not going to speculate, that's not really worthwhile or fair to anyone, but it'd be neat if they can find something else to do other than harrass and manipulate other students

in my opinion, visit here and cry as much as you need to. if you don't personally want that or don't believe it's something that lets you resolve yourself or you consider it to be unhealthy, then that's fine too. i hope you get to have more days like this, you should've never had to experience that

i offer you digital hugs, if you're ok with that, but if not then i'm cheering for you from here :>

still, take care of your mind and body, nurture yourself, however things turn out from here on
BluePyTheWDeer_
How am I?
Achromalia

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

How am I?
how are you?
z0z
hello, i am
Karmine

z0z wrote:

hello, i am
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