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Envy - Shinto [Osu|Taiko]

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KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 7:59:43 PM

Artist: Envy
Title: Shinto
Source: Newgrounds
Tags: dance electronic house
BPM: 130
Filesize: 6227kb
Play Time: 03:48
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3.06 stars, 475 notes)
  2. Lino1000's Kantan (2.1 stars, 551 notes)
  3. mrdumpling64's Oni (4.28 stars, 1070 notes)
  4. Neku's Muzukashii (2.62 stars, 740 notes)
  5. Vortex' Insane (4.07 stars, 660 notes)
  6. WM's Normal (1.6 stars, 217 notes)
Download: Envy - Shinto
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
Damn I've been working on this mapset for over a year.

Difficulties:
lino1000's Kantan by lino1000: 100% done
WM's Normal diff by WaffleMint: 100% done
Hard diff by me: 100% done
Vortex' Insane by DarkVortex: 100% done
Neku's Muzukashii by Neku okazaki: 100% done
mrdumpling64's Oni by mrdumpling64: 100% done
Last edited by KamiJar , edited 42 times in total.
Kurokocchi
66 posts
Joined August 2013
Kurokocchi
Still kind of new to modding so take these with a grain of salt and these should be seen as recommendations.

Hard
  1. 00:16:860 (2,3) - Seems like there's a missing beat
  2. 00:24:245 (2,3) - same applies here
  3. 00:31:398 (3,1) - another one missing
  4. 00:34:167 (4,1) - Could add a note between these to follow the beat
  5. 00:36:937 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - You could probably make this less repetitive by doing some small "jumpy" patterns
  6. 01:00:937 (2,3) - Missing beat
  7. 01:17:783 (3,4,5,6) - Spacing seems a bit confusing for a hard
  8. 02:22:398 (2) - Seems like this note could be left out
  9. 02:26:552 (1) - This one could also be left out
  10. 02:39:014 (2) - Maybe have this note between the 2 sliders so it flows
  11. 02:53:090 (1,2,3,4) - square stream makes it weird to hit the slider that comes after, maybe try to lead the stream into the slider
    Like this?
  12. 02:57:244 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Might want to use DS on this so it doesn't throw players off
AstralPhnx
302 posts
Joined April 2012
AstralPhnx
Right then, so I see a few problems here.
Firstly a lot of the hit objects have very bizzare spacing with no obvious pattern to where the hit circle is going to appear next. Are you using distance snap? If not I highly recommend that you do as it makes everything flow a lot better.
Theirs an unessisary new combo at 00:59:552
What on earth is going on with the circles from 01:00:706 to 01:01:860. Their all over the place! That is a big no no when designing a beatmap.
Another unessisary new combo at 01:36:475
Don't do this with a slider 02:11:090 its not a good idea to have a bunch of repeats which come out of nowhere and surprise the player.
Circle over the endpoint of the slider at 02:24:475. This is a bad design choice and should be avoided generally
Circle under slider startpoint at 02:44:783. Again don't do this as it just confuses the player
Circle at 03:00:937 is placed WAY too close to the slider end in the songs timing. I don't know many people who could move their mouse fast enough from the slider end to that circle and get a 300. Your only giving the player one quater beat to react. That circle should be removed immedietly. This also happens at 03:13:975

Design wise this map needs a lot of work. Beats are placed in very bizzare places and patterns and it doesn't look like distance snap was used much if at all. I would recommend actually starting with a clean slate and mapping again from the beginning. Don't rush, mapping shouldn't be rushed. Use distance snap at all times and don't be afraid to look at other ranked maps for ideas on how to design your map. Remember practice makes perfect

I hope this helps you towards getting your map ranked!
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Hmm... ok thanks. ^^ Most of that stuff felt fine to me when playing it but I understand how it can be confusing and will see what I can fix. I don't want to resort to starting over just yet, but if I have to I will. I honestly felt like I was doing better at mapping this than the other map I'm working on. >_>
LeftyRighty
25 posts
Joined July 2013
LeftyRighty
first
Pappy
1,020 posts
Joined August 2013
Pappy
I'm making Insane diff, as you requested.

Here is a little part of this:
http://puu.sh/7KEpN.osu

Here are hitsounds:
http://puu.sh/7KEul.rar

I will finish it in next week maybe. :3
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar

Papcio wrote:

I'm making Insane diff, as you requested.

Here is a little part of this:
http://puu.sh/7KEpN.osu

Here are hitsounds:
http://puu.sh/7KEul.rar

I will finish it in next week maybe. :3
:D Cool! Thanks Papcio ^^ can't wait to see how it turns out.
Neta
536 posts
Joined May 2011
Neta
Hi~ from my modding queue

[Hard]
  1. you'd better use Distance Snap more. i can see some notes that didn't use distance snap
  2. 00:21:475 (3) - how about this shape little unbended
    SPOILER
  3. 00:28:629 (3,1) - you'd better escape this overlapping it doesn't look good
  4. 00:30:014 (2,3,4) - move 00:30:475 (4) - to 296, 88 to make distance same
  5. 00:44:552 (2,4) - move this two to 168, 104
  6. 01:06:475 (1) - delete NC? is there reason that you put NC here?
  7. 01:09:706 (2) - move to 336, 240 for blanket
    SPOILER
  8. 01:11:552 (1) - Delete NC
  9. 01:24:359 (1) - delete this note the sounds start from 01:24:475
  10. 01:27:937 (2) - better use 1.6x DS move to 184, 320
  11. 02:36:706 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this pattern can give user confuse. better change to other pattern
  12. 03:12:014 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  13. 03:21:244 (1,2,3,4) -
  14. 02:44:552 (3,4,5,6) - make these distance all same
  15. 03:13:860 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
  16. 03:15:244 (6) - NC here slider's speed goes different
you'd better use more DS and use smaller grid(Ctrl+1) and there's no hitsound. it's unrankable so add hitsound if this map is for rank


GOOD LUCK~
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Thanks for the mod, Neta! ^^ I made a few changes but honestly I feel the patterns that you say can be confusing are fine. I've watched others play my map and they always did fine on that part, but yeah I really do need to put in hitsounds though.
kouzuki_karen
948 posts
Joined March 2013
kouzuki_karen
some suggestions for Hard

SPOILER
00:16:629 (1) - remove new combo?
00:24:014 (1) - ^
00:27:706 (1) - ^
00:31:860 (1,2,3) - the 1->2->3 jump might confuse the player imo
00:53:090 (1) - remove new combo?
01:00:706 - add a note?
01:09:245 (1) - move the new combo to 01:10:398 (3) - instead?
01:17:783 (3) - new combo?
01:45:014 (1) - move the new combo to 01:45:244 (2) - instead?
02:40:167 (4) - make new combo here instead
02:41:552 (1) - ^ if you do that then retain the new combo you just made
03:38:783 (1) - remove new combo?

also you need at least one Normal/Easy diff because it's not long enough to be approved :3

good luck!

edit: fixed silly mistake in writing
kouzuki_karen
948 posts
Joined March 2013
kouzuki_karen
my taiko diff: http://puu.sh/8PDrx.osu (right click and click "save" if it opens in the browser)

remember to add my name to the tags.
Pappy
1,020 posts
Joined August 2013
Pappy
Insane is still WiP ;=; Remap some parts (around 3/4 of map...)

Taiko? To get this ranked we need two taiko diffs, It is Oni so change name to mrdumpling64's Oni and search sb to make Muzukashii.
Spread must be good ;)
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Hmm.. ok I can't map Taiko so I'll go searching for someone to do that. XD how much longer for the insane if I may ask?
Pappy
1,020 posts
Joined August 2013
Pappy

KamiJar wrote:

Hmm.. ok I can't map Taiko so I'll go searching for someone to do that.
I can mapping taiko but it will looks ugly i'm mapping taiko diff and standard... Tell me on PW, I know many taiko mappers. Maybe some of them can make diff. ^^

Papcio wrote:

Insane is still WiP ;=; Remap some parts (around 3/4 of map...)
Remapping all ;_;
Sorry ;-;

KamiJar wrote:

how much longer for the insane if I may ask?
I really don't know XD
Neku Okazaki
Neku Okazaki
Muzukashii
Pappy
1,020 posts
Joined August 2013
Pappy
I have already found epic inspiration to this insane, remapped (lol) and now it is epic. o/ New hitsounds too ;-; Ofc it is still wip XD And new colors because old are boring, it is ofc for all diffs maybe? If you don't want new colors say me plz but I think these are better. If you need help say me, I don't bite ;)

Hitsounds:
http://puu.sh/9CTXp/879704ce7c.rar

Diff:
http://puu.sh/9CUlD/8e8798d22a.osu

Now, this is insane! ^^

Colors:
[Colours]
Combo1 : 123,191,210
Combo2 : 233,67,67
Combo3 : 174,225,166
Combo4 : 216,119,230
Add to all standard diffs if You want o3o Will be better.

:3
kouzuki_karen
948 posts
Joined March 2013
kouzuki_karen
improved my diff

SPOILER
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: 550961_EnV---Shinto.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 36937
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 14,72014,132937,140321
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Shinto
TitleUnicode:Shinto
Artist:Envy
ArtistUnicode:Envy
Creator:KamiJar
Version:mrdumpling64's Oni
Source:Newgrounds
Tags:dance electronic house
BeatmapID:424301
BeatmapSetID:155514

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"shinto.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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14,-100,4,2,1,70,0,0
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[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,255,255
Combo2 : 234,255,0
Combo3 : 127,255,0
Combo4 : 255,0,0
Combo5 : 0,0,255
Combo6 : 255,128,0

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256,256,195475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,256,195706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,128,196167,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,176,196629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,176,197090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,176,197321,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,176,197552,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,176,197667,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,176,197783,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,176,197898,1,2,0:0:0:0:
208,176,198014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,176,198129,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,176,198244,1,2,0:0:0:0:
208,176,198360,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,176,198475,1,2,0:0:0:0:
208,176,198590,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,176,198706,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,176,198821,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,144,198937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,312,199167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,199398,5,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,199629,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,199860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,200090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,200321,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,200552,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,200783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,201014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,201244,5,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,201475,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,201706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,201936,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,202167,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,202398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,202629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,202744,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,208,202860,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,208,202975,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,208,203090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,203321,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,203552,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,203782,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,204013,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,204244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,204475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,204706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,204937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,205398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,205860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,206090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,206321,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,206437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,206552,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,206667,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,206783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,207244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,207706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,208167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,208629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,209090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,209552,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,210014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,152,210129,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,152,210244,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,152,210360,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,280,210475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,210937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,211398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,211860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,212321,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,212552,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,160,212783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,213014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,213244,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,160,213706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,213937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,214167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,214629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,215090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,215552,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,216014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,216475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,216937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,217398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,184,217514,1,2,0:0:0:0:
184,184,217629,1,2,0:0:0:0:
184,184,217744,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,160,217860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,218321,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,218783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,219244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,219706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,220167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,220629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,160,221090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,152,221206,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,152,221321,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,152,221437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,152,221552,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,200,222014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,200,222475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,200,222937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,200,223398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,200,223629,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,200,223860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,200,224090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,200,224321,1,2,0:0:0:0:
136,168,224783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,168,224898,1,2,0:0:0:0:
136,168,225014,1,2,0:0:0:0:
136,168,225129,1,2,0:0:0:0:
136,168,225244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,224,225706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,232,226167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,232,226629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,232,227090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,160,227552,5,2,0:0:0:0:
136,160,228014,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,228475,12,0,232167,0:0:0:0:

gl with ranking :3
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Vortex' Insane
17:52 EmiyaShirou: 00:59:552 (1) - should be moved down a bit makes the triple look awkward
17:52 EmiyaShirou: 01:24:590 (2,3,4,1) - wtf spacing plz
17:53 EmiyaShirou: 01:32:206 (11,1) - spacing
17:53 EmiyaShirou: that's the only shit I can find in the map
17:54 EmiyaShirou: 01:38:783 (7,8,9,10,1) - aweful
17:54 KamiJar: wait by move down for the first one you mean the slider?
17:54 EmiyaShirou: yeah
17:55 EmiyaShirou: when playing it looks slightly to the right compared to the other trhee
17:55 EmiyaShirou: three*
17:55 EmiyaShirou: atm it's at x:220 y:196
17:56 EmiyaShirou: but that's just aesthetic
17:56 KamiJar: so maybe move it to 216 200?
17:57 EmiyaShirou: whatever makes it look better
17:57 EmiyaShirou: XD
17:57 EmiyaShirou: mine was at 221 199 and it looked better
17:57 KamiJar: how did you move it to 221 199 XD
17:57 EmiyaShirou: no grid
17:58 EmiyaShirou: 02:48:475 (1) - the spinner should probably end earlier to get that bass kick
17:58 EmiyaShirou: 02:49:860 - <--- this needs to be a hitcircle imo
17:59 EmiyaShirou: 03:13:398 (4,5,1) - wtf spacing
18:00 KamiJar: sorry for a second something happen and I wasn't able to like press f9 and escape
18:00 EmiyaShirou: O.o
18:00 EmiyaShirou: 03:30:360 (4,1) - spacing looks weird
18:01 EmiyaShirou: all it is is spacing mistaskes
18:01 EmiyaShirou: mistakes*
18:01 EmiyaShirou: sadly I gtg
18:02 EmiyaShirou: if you can tell whoever mapped the insane about those mistakes
18:02 EmiyaShirou: plz
18:02 EmiyaShirou: I don't even want kudosu
18:02 EmiyaShirou: o/

Attempted to fix some of the problems mentioned above.
-Tochi
Elite Storyboarder
1,444 posts
Joined November 2013
-Tochi
Mod request from my modding queue.
Sorry for a big delay ;w;


  • General

  1. Check AiMod in all diffs, there's unranked issues.
  2. Your .mp3 file is over 192kbps. Use this instead: Download


  • Vortex' Insane

  1. 00:20:321 (1,2) - Too close to each other. I suggest to do something like this:
    Image
  2. 00:44:321 - Kiai time from here?
  3. 00:50:321 (6) - Ctrl + G, same with 00:50:783 (1,2) - and move 00:51:014 (2) - to x:392 y:84, then move 00:51:244 (3) - to x:224 y:196, do this for better flow, and it should look like this:
    Image
  4. 00:57:244 (5) - Rotate 50 degrees like:
    Image
  5. 01:00:937 (5) - Press Q for new combo, and move it to x:444 y:188 for better flow?
  6. 01:06:014 (7) - Stack on 01:05:321 (4) - so it looks like a V, and the flow gets better like:
    Image
  7. 01:08:321 (5) - Press Q for new combo.
  8. 01:10:629 (2) - Move to x:228 y:360, and move 01:10:860 (3) - to x:368 y:308 for better flow.
  9. 01:12:937 (3) - Why the wiggle at the end? I think you should change it to a normal slider like:
    Image
  10. Stack 01:13:629 (4) - on 01:12:937 (3) 's end.
  11. 01:14:552 - Add a circle? There's no reason for not adding one.
  12. 01:19:514 (2,4,6,8) - Delete, this is overmap.
  13. 01:20:783 (1,2,3,4) - Make this into two 1/4 sliders so it's easier to stream the next stream like:
    Image
  14. 01:24:821 (4,1) - Wht the sudden DS change?
  15. 01:26:552 (6) - Move it to around x:256 y:244 for better flow.
  16. 01:27:244 (2,3,4,5) - This just is too sudden, make it smaller or make a better square like:
    Image
  17. 01:32:206 (11,1) - Same as 01:24:821 (4,1) - Why the sudden DS change?
  18. 01:43:860 (3,4) - Too close to each other. Move 01:44:091 (4) - to x:320 y:304
  19. 01:44:783 (7,1) - Too close to each other imo. Move 01:45:244 (1) - to x:390 y:40, and make it less curvy like:
    Image
  20. 01:45:937 (2,3,1,2) - Boring to play when it's stacked, try to move 01:46:167 (3) - to x:356 y:232.
  21. 02:07:283 (11) - Overmapped. Move 02:07:283 (11) - to 02:07:167 - and move it to x:292 y:260
  22. 02:09:360 (2) - Delete, it sounds weird, and there's no need for it. And then move the two circle so it flow better like:
    Image
  23. 02:24:706 (2) - It feels weird to play sometimes when a slider starts on a red line. Convert it into circles that stack on each other? Like:
    Image
  24. 02:26:783 (3,1) - Stack it properly. Disable grid snap to do it accurate.
  25. 02:32:090 (3) - As i said before with sliders starting on a red line. You may change it.
  26. 03:00:014 (5,6,1,1,1) - Way tooooo close to each other. Do something like this instead:
    Image
  27. 03:00:706 (1) - Remove NC.
  28. 03:34:167 - Add a last note here?


  • Feedback


    You should work a lot more on your placement. I think that Vortex' Insane should get much more work.
    Well, good luck.
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Ok I fixed most of the stuff you mentioned for the insane diff along with all the AIMod problems. XD Your mod was pretty helpfully especially since I didn't map the insane so I had no idea what to fix.

I was confused by what you meant for this so I left it alone for now.

-Tochi wrote:

[*]03:00:014 (5,6,1,1,1) - Way tooooo close to each other. Do something like this instead:
Image
-Tochi
Elite Storyboarder
1,444 posts
Joined November 2013
-Tochi

KamiJar wrote:

Ok I fixed most of the stuff you mentioned for the insane diff along with all the AIMod problems. XD Your mod was pretty helpfully especially since I didn't map the insane so I had no idea what to fix.

I was confused by what you meant for this so I left it alone for now.

-Tochi wrote:

[*]03:00:014 (5,6,1,1,1) - Way tooooo close to each other. Do something like this instead:
Image
Like it looked messy when the circle overlapped with the next circle.
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
I mean I couldn't tell what to do from the picture, sorry. atm I can't do anything about it but I'll look at it again tomorrow to fix it

Fixed it.
Aldwych
2,831 posts
Joined February 2012
Aldwych
Actually i'm the one who do envy maps.
Copyrighted ¦:<

/run
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Oh damn you're the guy that made the Paladin map. :O I think you did a good job with it lol
Mio_chan
172 posts
Joined July 2010
Mio_chan
Shinto by Kamijar
Black mods are suggestions only
Blue mods are recommended to fix, or places need to pay attention tp
Red mods are unrankable
Green mods are comments only.

[General]
PLEASE ADD MORE HITSOUND. MAP WITH NO HITSOUND IS UNRANKABLE

[Taiko Oni]:
Screenshot:
http://puu.sh/hie9k/8c6ffc1102.jpg
I suggest to increase the hitsound, because I can barely hear the taiko drum sound.
OD 8 is painful at this BPM lol, it is nearly as hard as the original game.
[Other taiko diff]
Same as Oni, I can’t hear the hitsound
[Vortex’ Insane]]
Hitsound, unrankable with no hitsound

The new combo is a bit messy in this diff, I cannot provide exact mod but I will tell you need to do.
You need to make sure that similar part in the songs should have consistent new combo
For example, the first chorus you put new combo on every 2 bars, and on some jumps, but on second chorus you put new combo on every bar. This is not good since they are inconsistent. Some combo tricks you do is quite good, like 02:33:244 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) and 02:53:090 (1,2,3,4) -, but in general you need to pay attention to combo consistency.

I prefer AR8 on this map, this map is easy to read, with low BPM, and not difficult at all. I can’t see the reason to use AR 9.

00:16:629 (1,2,3,4) – the spacing is weird, I suggest putting (2) farther away from (1). You may argue that you did the same in 00:24:014 (1,2,3,4,5) -, but the problem is that the two patterns are different. I understand why you put a 1.5x jump on 00:25:167 (4,5) – but on this it just do not play well.
00:59:552 – unnecessary green line
00:29:552 (1) – remove NC
01:02:090 (9,10,11) – make some jump?
01:39:361 (8,9,10) – I think this spacing does not match any other part of this map. Reduce a spacing a bit?
02:55:860 (2) – I think this slider should not be straight
03:00:475 (1,2) – I think using a 0.5x slider is better but its up to you.
03:11:552 (5) – NC, you put NC on similar parts
This map is quite neat so not much to mod, but you need to pay attention to minor stuff like hitsound and combo.

[Hard]
Hitsound, unrankable with no hitsound
AR – 1

I don’t like the 1/2 spacing in this map, suddenly smaller and larger with no reason. This is great in Insane or Extra where spacing are large and flow dominates, but with small spacing like 00:58:860 (4,5,6,1) – and 01:13:398 – to 01:21:244 -, I can’t really see the reason to use such spacing as the music does not impose this spacing variation, in short, it does not suit the music. Note that I will not point out all of them, some of them are just to hard for me to mod as I do not know which spacing you prefer

00:31:860 (1,2,3) – this stacking do not play nice, consider unstacking?
00:43:398 (1) – break up to two sliders.
01:25:629 (2,3) – Flow in here is bad, ctrl +G on(3), remember to stack (4) on end of (3) and fix the position of (5)
01:28:398 (4) – strange jump
01:30:937 (2,3,4) – again, strange spacing
01:36:937 (1) – put it farther away from (2)
01:41:090 (3,4,5) – position of (5) is not good to play with, and it is too close with 01:42:014 (1) –
01:43:167 (3) – unstack
02:12:937 (1) – end it 1/1 earlier at least? I don’t think someone will like to spin 6 seconds and then need to play immediately LOL
02:25:629 (1,2,3) – bad spacing, increase spacing between (2) (3)
02:36:706 (2,3,4,5,6,7) – the flow not good, consider same spacing between each circles and make it an arc
02:39:014 (2,3) – this spacing is not good. Consistent spacing between (1) (2) (3).
02:44:552 (3,4,5,6) – make spacing larger and consistent
02:55:860 (5,6,7) – again
03:01:398 (1,2,3) – same

[WM’s Normal]
I think SV change should not appear in Normal, especially this is the easiest diff in the mapset
00:17:321 (3) –start at 00:17:552 -, fill the original place with something?
01:12:014 (5) – avoid overlapping
01:50:783 (1) –why don’t end the spinner here?
01:58:167 (1,2,3) – if you map this part why don’t map similar part in the break?_?
02:22:167 (1) –remove NC
02:47:552 (1) –end 1/2 earlier?
03:16:167 (2,3) – don’t use straight flow, make it curver?
03:17:090 (1,1) – spinner end too close to the slider
03:33:706 (1) –end at 03:36:014?

Shoot you a star for you 1 year work though I actually do not like the map very much (no offense)
Good Luck~ :)
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Thanks for the mod. ^^ I was able to fix most of the errors you mentioned but a few of them I can't correct at the moment, such as the spacing in the hard difficulty, without redoing the whole section. I will work on it though. :) Thanks again for the mod.
Gemu-
1,015 posts
Joined October 2010
Gemu-
Hi, from my queue :oops:

My Mod
d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)

[General]

Is better the diff "Lino1000's Kantan" change to "Lino1000's Futsuu", because this is so hard for a Kantan and have more diff and parts of Futsuu so, is your choice ^w^

[ Lino1000's Kantan]

You forgot remove the Widescreen Support.

00:07:167 - Delete this note.
00:14:321 - ^
00:15:706 - Change to k.
00:19:167 - ^
00:23:090 - Change to k is better.
00:26:552 - ^
00:31:398 - Change to k for the rhythm.
00:33:014 - ^
00:38:783 - ^
00:40:398 - ^
00:42:014 - ^
00:45:937 - Change to k is better.
00:48:937 - ^
00:49:398 - ^
00:50:321 - ^
00:54:014 - Change to k for the combination.
00:54:937 - ^
00:56:783 - ^
00:57:706 - ^
00:59:552 - Change to K.
01:00:475 - Change to k is better.
01:01:398 - ^
01:02:321 - Change to d and here 01:02:552 - Change to k for the rhythm and the pattern.
01:03:475 - Change to k.
01:05:090 - ^
01:06:937 - Change to k.
01:07:860 - ^
01:10:167 - ^
01:11:552 - ^
01:19:860 - Change to d and here 01:20:090 - Change to d.
01:25:398 - Change to k is better for the rhythm.
01:26:321 - ^
01:27:244 - ^
01:28:629 - Change to d and here 01:29:090 - Change to k.
01:30:014 - Change to k.
01:30:937 - ^
01:32:783 - ^
01:34:629 - ^
01:45:706 - Change to this to k k k
02:20:783 - Change to k for the pattern.
02:22:629 - ^
02:24:475 - ^
02:25:398 - ^
02:26:321 - ^
02:28:167 - Change to k.
02:29:090 - ^
02:31:167 - ^
02:32:321 - ^
02:33:014 - ^
02:33:706 - ^
02:35:552 - Change to K for the big sound in this part.
02:36:706 - Change to k.
02:40:398 - ^
02:43:167 - ^
02:46:860 - ^
02:48:475 - ^
02:50:321 - Change to k is better.
02:51:244 - ^
02:52:167 - ^
02:54:014 - ^
02:57:706 - ^
02:58:629 - ^
02:59:552 - Change to k and here 02:59:783 - Change to k.
03:01:398 - Change to k.
03:03:244 - ^
03:05:090 - ^
03:06:014 - Change to k and here 03:06:244 - Change to k.
03:07:398 - Change to k.
03:08:783 - ^
03:09:706 - ^
03:10:629 - ^
03:13:629 - ^
03:14:321 - ^
03:16:167 - Change to k for the rhythm.
03:17:090 - ^
03:18:014 - ^

[ Neku's Muzukashii]

Sempai se te olvidó quitar el Widescreen Support.

00:03:244 - Cambiar a k? creo que es más conveniente.
01:04:398 - Cambialo a k.
01:05:090 - Cambialo a k para seguir el ritmo.
02:39:475 - Cambiar a k?
02:55:398 - Cambialo a d para seguir el ritmo de la canción.

[ mrdumpling64's Oni]

You forgot remove the Widescreen Support.

00:59:552 - Change to k for the big sound in this part.
01:46:167 - Change to k.
02:51:244 - ^
03:02:783 - Change to k and here 03:02:898 - Change to d.
03:03:244 - Change to k and here 03:03:360 - Change to d.
03:03:706 - Change to k.
03:04:167 - ^

Nice Beatmap! I hope my mod has been helpful you :3, Good luck~ ~
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Hmmm I'm probably gonna have to work on it myself so I'll get to that soon, thanks for the mod. ^^
rhalp10
579 posts
Joined September 2013
rhalp10

Sorry My Queue For STDHas Been Closed I Can't Handle That Mode Anymore .. :(
[R]
1,050 posts
Joined November 2013
[R]
from queue sorry late

[General]
song setup > audio > uncheck "enable custom overide" i think i can't hear taiko sound
[Oni]
first, every k d k pattern try to make d k d that sound will be nice with this

00:15:706 - d
00:21:937 (64,65) - ctrl+g (switch), do it 00:24:706 (76,77) - too
00:22:860 - k
00:23:552 - d
00:25:167 - fill k
00:25:398 (78,79) - delete
00:26:321 - d
00:26:783 - same
00:53:898 - d
01:03:475 (109,110,111) - ctrl+g and 01:03:590 - delete
01:05:667 (125,126,127,128,129) - ddkdd
01:55:167 - k
01:55:860 - same
02:01:860 - d
02:02:552 (16,17) - ctrl+G
03:15:475 - k
03:21:244 (1,2) - ctrl+G

sorry not good moding, but i trying the best
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,526 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat
Just some really general stuff

General

Normal -> Hard will be an issue

Hard

00:18:475 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think you should space the 1/1 and 1/2 identical here, either you stack 00:18:475 (1,2) or you change this shape
Seeing some very irregular and varying spacing used for same distances in the map, like 00:20:321 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - looks very unpolished and sloppy
00:24:014 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - too compact

yeah main issue is the spacing, it's just weird. Looking at it, it just changes and changes and changes, when you make them closer to each other it makes playing harder than it should be, instead of making it easier to hit, then you space them out again, it breaks flow and intensity, confuses quite a bit

01:12:475 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm here sounds off

01:17:783 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - you start the objects with the sounds here, but then for 01:13:860 (1,2,3,4) - the sounds in the song are on the last circles in the patterns, this is inconsistent in the whole section

01:27:706 - strong beat but ignored

01:46:629 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2) - combos are disorganised

02:42:475 (1) - unfitting rhythm, bland tbh, could be split up into more objects for a better presentation of the song

02:48:244 (1,1) - too close after spinner for Hard

A remap is honestly the best solution for this. Some things to note:
- cymbal hitsounds would be nice if used as well
- NC at constant and appropriate sections
- don't randomly change the spacing of the objects, do not overuse jumps and anti-jumps
- use less multiple repeat sliders


Good Luck if you wish to continue to push this for rank
KamiJar
69 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
KamiJar
Thanks neonat. I'll definitely try to fix all the spacing and stuff and will look into all your suggestions (haven't been on osu in a few days). If I have to rempap the hard I will ^^
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