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kors k - Insane Techniques [Osu|Taiko]

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Giralda
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Giralda
HYPEEE
BeatofIke
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Joined September 2011
BeatofIke

Giralda wrote:

HYPEEE
LunarSakuya
osu! Alumni
1,704 posts
Joined August 2011
LunarSakuya
god bless america

General
- add "azerfrost" to tags since that's his previous name


Beginner
00:20:257 (1) - try Drum clap
00:21:078 (3) - whistle on slider body could fit the bgm here~
00:46:558 (1) - on the head, consider switching to Soft addition. Gives the Finish on the tail a "lift" while the bgm maintains a similar feeling imo
01:06:284 (1) - whistle on tail, the note here jumps out a bit and makes a nice transition into the whistle on the next slider
01:07:928 (1) - Delete NC
01:09:572 (1) - whistle on head
01:11:215 (2) - ^ and tail
01:12:859 (1) - whistle on tail
01:16:147 (3) - whistle on head and NC
01:51:078 (5,6) - perhaps whistle on slider bodies
sry about the hitsound mod lol. Nice patterns w

Normal
00:21:900 (4) - consider NC to match your other diffs
00:28:065 (4) - whistle on tail like in Beginner? If you apply, i suggest you follow the whistle hitsounding in Beginner then for this part
00:52:311 (4) - think you meant Finish on the tail
01:06:284 (1,2,1,2) - consider this rhythm or similar:
SPOILER
i thought it might be interesting to make the sliders catch the more emphasized points in the music
01:12:859 (1) - same for this area if you like
01:27:654 (1) - May be better to just make this into a 1/1 slider to follow a similar flow to 01:26:010 (1) - .
01:49:024 (1) - Finish

Another
00:21:078 (1,2,3,4) - i feel there's more potential to make this stand out more. Like a gradual spacing out:
SPOILER
something like it matches the crescendo in the bgm
00:28:270 (6) - perhaps pull this away from the stack and move it downwards for some circular flow
SPOILER
00:42:654 - i feel like something needs to be here...like there's a small gap during play
00:49:229 (6) - Finish in tail i guess
01:47:380 (1,2) - consider pointing this couple upwards
SPOILER
The oval flow from the previous combo makes it tempting to dive into & pass this as a more quicker rhythm. The clash in direction flow could make it more easier to read as a sudden change into the antijump

HanzeR's Extreme
00:44:606 (8) - consider Ctrl + G to create a mini drop-down flow to the next note
01:38:544 (1,2) - why not have these touching like at 01:36:900 (1,2) - ?

Azer's Extra
00:33:407 (1) - Finish on head sounds nice
00:37:620 (4) - maybe keep this curved to create a pinwheel pattern
01:25:599 (1,2) - I think it'd be neat to separate these to make the vocals & combo stand out
01:27:243 (1,2) - yeah like this

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captin1
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Topic Starter
captin1

LunarSakuya wrote:

god bless america murica

General
- add "azerfrost" to tags since that's his previous name ehhh i'll ask him but probably not needed


Beginner
00:20:257 (1) - try Drum clap
00:21:078 (3) - whistle on slider body could fit the bgm here~
00:46:558 (1) - on the head, consider switching to Soft addition. Gives the Finish on the tail a "lift" while the bgm maintains a similar feeling imo I would lose the normal whistle from doing that, and I think it sounds better with it
01:06:284 (1) - whistle on tail, the note here jumps out a bit and makes a nice transition into the whistle on the next slider
01:07:928 (1) - Delete NC
01:09:572 (1) - whistle on head
01:11:215 (2) - ^ and tail
01:12:859 (1) - whistle on tail
01:16:147 (3) - whistle on head and NC
01:51:078 (5,6) - perhaps whistle on slider bodies did for 5 but not 6, and then added to similar places in this section
sry about the hitsound mod lol. Nice patterns w ww

Normal
00:21:900 (4) - consider NC to match your other diffs
00:28:065 (4) - whistle on tail like in Beginner? If you apply, i suggest you follow the whistle hitsounding in Beginner then for this part
00:52:311 (4) - think you meant Finish on the tail
01:06:284 (1,2,1,2) - consider this rhythm or similar:
SPOILER
i thought it might be interesting to make the sliders catch the more emphasized points in the music hmmmm no thanks, don't like how that sounds personally since the melody line is represented well with these sliders imo
01:12:859 (1) - same for this area if you like
01:27:654 (1) - May be better to just make this into a 1/1 slider to follow a similar flow to 01:26:010 (1) - .
01:49:024 (1) - Finish

Another
00:21:078 (1,2,3,4) - i feel there's more potential to make this stand out more. Like a gradual spacing out:
SPOILER
something like it matches the crescendo in the bgm cool did somethin similar
00:28:270 (6) - perhaps pull this away from the stack and move it downwards for some circular flow would break the consistency of this pattern
SPOILER
00:42:654 - i feel like something needs to be here...like there's a small gap during play
00:49:229 (6) - Finish in tail i guess
01:47:380 (1,2) - consider pointing this couple upwards
SPOILER
The oval flow from the previous combo makes it tempting to dive into & pass this as a more quicker rhythm. The clash in direction flow could make it more easier to read as a sudden change into the antijump i love you

HanzeR's Extreme
00:44:606 (8) - consider Ctrl + G to create a mini drop-down flow to the next note
01:38:544 (1,2) - why not have these touching like at 01:36:900 (1,2) - ?

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Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,107 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer

LunarSakuya wrote:

god bless america

General
- add "azerfrost" to tags since that's his previous name pls no
Azer's Extra
00:33:407 (1) - Finish on head sounds nice k
00:37:620 (4) - maybe keep this curved to create a pinwheel pattern k
01:25:599 (1,2) - I think it'd be neat to separate these to make the vocals & combo stand out k
01:27:243 (1,2) - yeah like this
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osu file format v12

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LunarSakuya
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~~~Happy Birthday~~~


god save the captin
captin1
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captin1
thanks! :D
kisata
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kisata
basically, congrats

edit: i'm weird
Fycho
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Fycho
Happy birthday!
Lanturn
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Lanturn
Oh, nice. Congrats!

Happy Birthday?
ignorethis
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ignorethis
extreme is so cool.
Satellite
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Satellite

Fycho wrote:

Happy birthday!
AllStar12
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AllStar12
Congrats! \^^/

Edit: Your birthday today?! Happy Birthday!! \:D/
Zero__wind
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lol that last slider in (_̅_̅_̅_̅_̲̅м̲̅a̲̅я̲̅i̲̅j­̲̅u̲̅a̲̅n̲̅a̲̅_̅_̅_̅()ڪے~
and that diff's timing is wrong lol

Happy birthday
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69653863

Zero__wind wrote:

(_̅_̅_̅_̅_̲̅м̲̅a̲̅я̲̅i̲̅j­̲̅u̲̅a̲̅n̲̅a̲̅_̅_̅_̅()ڪے~

HanzeR
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HanzeR

Zero__wind wrote:

lol that last slider in (_̅_̅_̅_̅_̲̅м̲̅a̲̅я̲̅i̲̅j­̲̅u̲̅a̲̅n̲̅a̲̅_̅_̅_̅()ڪے~
and that diff's timing is wrong lol

Happy birthday
Maybe try smoking more and pass it over here
Nwolf
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Nwolf
the taiko diffs are pure awesomeness

gz : D
Blueprint
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Blueprint

ignorethis wrote:

extreme is so cool.
TKS
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TKS
omedetou!
iyasine
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iyasine
AFK sorry...

Happy birthday captin :D
Dexus
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Dexus
Audacity

This song is 26ms late
captin1
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captin1
so....what? the offset is correct, if you're trying to imply that it's not
and the mp3 is directly from the iidx 21 ost, so there's not a problem with it being possibly edited either

looking in audacity isn't the best way to tell the offset, actually using human ears will be far more effective, so i suggest you stop wasting your time by spamming all of these threads with offset checks that are completely wrong
Dexus
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Dexus
It's because of people like you that almost all the maps in osu! are timed wrong.
captin1
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captin1
Try editing the map to the timing that you're suggesting, and then play the map. You'll find that then that it will feel completely wrong

Audacity is NOT the best possible way to find the offset. Trust me, I've tried it myself, and it's extremely off from what the best offset in the client will be. I'm not the expert, but I can speculate that it's due to differences in how Audacity and the osu client interpret the mp3 file
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
wow dexus those are some

insane techniques

you use to find offset
Dexus
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Dexus
So I sampled a wrong spot, it's -16ms. You can check for yourself if you'd like. This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears. Most of the time when I get a wrong offset I just sample a different spot and it ends up being correct.

Audacity
EmingK
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EmingK

Dexus wrote:

This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears.
People don't play osu! with Audacity, they use their ears. So we do timing with ears.
A good timing targets accurate hit during gameplay. Therefore, if you can hit accurately with the beat, the timing is well done.
The "true" offset?
who cares
Fycho
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Fycho

Dexus wrote:

So I sampled a wrong spot, it's -16ms. You can check for yourself if you'd like. This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears. Most of the time when I get a wrong offset I just sample a different spot and it ends up being correct.

Audacity
This map's timing is fine for me. please NEVER trust Audacity's offset anytime, always trust your own ear and playing! Stop your meaningless behaviour.
Sellenite
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Sellenite

Dexus wrote:

This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears.
do you play osu with audacity、goldwave、adobe audition、cool edit、format factory ？xD
mintong89
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mintong89

Dexus wrote:

So I sampled a wrong spot, it's -16ms. You can check for yourself if you'd like. This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears. Most of the time when I get a wrong offset I just sample a different spot and it ends up being correct.
As EmingK, Fycho and Sellenite said, we're using our "feel" to playing osu but not Audacity. The software such as Audacity is totally useless even the offset is right because "feel" is more important between with "correct offset". Please test yourself before you decide anything, and learn how to accept your mistake. I can tell you -16 ms is wrong with my three years mapping experience, and you want to know, if you put a song into the osu it'll slightly delay the song (it'll automatic +ms I mean).
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MMzz
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MMzz
We do not use third party software to obtain offsets and timing.
This game is timed by ear and played by ear, not robots.
There is no need to argue about this.

Don't let this thread get out of hand.
EasyMillions
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Can't wait :D
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