Basically, everyone is saying is the term "overmapped" is extremely subjective and convoluted. Some more concrete criteria for higher level maps should be discussed to avoid disputes and clashing views on this matter in the future.
An example of what I mean is IN2K6. Let's be honest BATs, if that map wasn't key-sounded to clearly dictate what sound every note was associated with, it would of been pushed aside with the label "overmapped" with no further explanation.
If you define "overmapped" as a section that has more notes than sounds, then right here we already stumble into problems. Should musical chords be considered a note? Or can they be represented as chords too? Should they equal the exact amount of notes as the musical chord? How could the average mapper possibly tell? Then drums come in, then baseline comes in, then superposing melody comes in, then SE comes in and before we know it, we can "rightfully" liter a map with all-press chords all over the place.
Does this result is a good map? Of course it doesn't, all-presses all over the completely removes the sense of musicality from the map.
So should a map be considered "overmapped" when there's so much notes one cannot properly get a matching feel of the music from it? But here too we encounter subjective problems. The average players look at overjoy maps as spam, they read it as dense spam, they try to play it by spamming. If the overjoy players didn't exist, they'd would wholeheartedly believe the map IS spam, devoid of any musical sense matching the music in question.
But the overjoy players sees rhythm and musicality in those maps just fine, it's a completely subjective issue.
I believe we should instead break down why we don't want so called "overmapped" maps ranked, and use the deconstructed reasons to form more concrete rules on this matter.
An example of what I mean is IN2K6. Let's be honest BATs, if that map wasn't key-sounded to clearly dictate what sound every note was associated with, it would of been pushed aside with the label "overmapped" with no further explanation.
If you define "overmapped" as a section that has more notes than sounds, then right here we already stumble into problems. Should musical chords be considered a note? Or can they be represented as chords too? Should they equal the exact amount of notes as the musical chord? How could the average mapper possibly tell? Then drums come in, then baseline comes in, then superposing melody comes in, then SE comes in and before we know it, we can "rightfully" liter a map with all-press chords all over the place.
Does this result is a good map? Of course it doesn't, all-presses all over the completely removes the sense of musicality from the map.
So should a map be considered "overmapped" when there's so much notes one cannot properly get a matching feel of the music from it? But here too we encounter subjective problems. The average players look at overjoy maps as spam, they read it as dense spam, they try to play it by spamming. If the overjoy players didn't exist, they'd would wholeheartedly believe the map IS spam, devoid of any musical sense matching the music in question.
But the overjoy players sees rhythm and musicality in those maps just fine, it's a completely subjective issue.
I believe we should instead break down why we don't want so called "overmapped" maps ranked, and use the deconstructed reasons to form more concrete rules on this matter.
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