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UK osu!standard 2 [Concluded - Mudkipz wins!]

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Lapis-
It was initially done by seeding, but the outcome was so bad it was changed to randomization. Please don't make wild statements without full knowledge please.

This my tournament and I made these rules. I reserve the right to change them at any time.
me3lingual
Wouldn't it have been best to notify the participants of this change to the rules then, that way such "wild statements" would not have been made? A simple update to the rules post would have been sufficient.
Starry-

me3lingual wrote:

Good for you, you witnessed the tournament organizer breaking the second tournament rule that was made. As for a suggestion, how about following the rule that was posted, and seed the participants according to the pp score?
I also witnessed the atrocity that became following the seeding of pp rank. It was awful, and the finals simply consisted of Rank #1 vs Rank #33 of the seeding theoretically. Furthermore, my post was aimed at Raiku's statement of PortalLife 'rigging' the tourney. Not you.
Topic Starter
Lapis-
I did notify people, however i overlooked the "rules" part of the post cause I was so fucking busy with the other parts of the tournament that I didn't check over that. I don't really see what you're trying to do here other than be obnoxious.
me3lingual
The only thing I am trying to do is help make it clear the reasons why a RNG was used. After all, one could simply assume that it was manipulated in your favor under the guise of using a RNG. Without proper clarification in the rules section, you sending messages to those involved could be seen as a ploy to do something to that effect. Now, I am not saying you did that, nor would I assume that you did. I am on your side in this. I made a bracket of the participants myself before even making my first post, and I also saw the "atrocity" of that final match. I am just trying to help you clarify the reasoning behind the seedings. I apologize if this is seen as obnoxious to you, that was not my intention.

After all, without clearly defined rules, people are prone to think things are rigged in favor of one person or group.
Topic Starter
Lapis-
What do I have to gain from rigging a unofficial tournament that is largely for fun?
Tekklorn
Not going to comment on these match rigging accusations and such because I know nothing about it, but what Raiku said about the accuracy war was pretty valid. A lot of the top players are going to play against each other early on in the tourney so I suggest making the maps difficult starting from the 2nd round, yes it's unfair to the lower seeded players who got through to the 2nd round but it'll avoid accuracy wars between top players.
destructor966

Raiku wrote:



below is poor just miku who has to face doomy again first round as with the last tourney, give him a break?



Well I don't see how that is possible since I am against doomsday.

May I also add that even though in the last tournament I was put up against charleyzard and then had vidya and on both occasions would have had no chance at even gaining a point, I took the opportunity to evaluate my weaknesses and for once, actually work on them. If I was put up against someone at my skill level then I probably would have just practiced the maps a bit and not really bother trying to improve upon my weaknesses.

When I found out I was against doomsday, I didn't whine and complain or rush to portal's house and hold him at gun point until he puts me up against someone easy to beat. If anything I am glad I get to play doomsday because I can get a royal arse whooping rather than a regular arse whooping. I can also once again take this time to try strengthen my weaknesses rather than just moan and give up all hope.

Even though I have absolutely no chance (again), I at least have an opportunity to evaluate how I perform in a tournament match against tough opposition so I can see how I will fair in a tournament such as the CTB world cup (If we even have a team).

If portal really did rig this tournament, then he didn't do a great job at it in my eyes, he may have a few easy matches but he will still probably have to face charleyzard (hopefully he is awake this time) and if portal gets to the semis he will probably have to face mudkipz, navi or raiku.

Simply put, I am in this for the fun of it, getting higher through the tournament doesn't exactly mean you are better than everyone else. Would you believe that I am better than doomsday if I somehow get a win? If you entered in this tournament then you should have really expected to face anyone of any skill level and should not expect an easy match.

I just hope everyone gives it their best shot regardless of who they play.
vidya

PortalLife wrote:

Dont worry Jesse will oversleep and youll get a free win
He'd have to be a super pro sleeper to sleep past 8PM!

I'll have to face him round 3 if I win mine ;_;
Topic Starter
Lapis-
Next tournament (Summer, June ish) I'll do a name out the hat drawings and let it be streamed to determine who faces who.
Navi

PortalLife wrote:

You don't understand how much insane effort and insanity it takes to organize something like that Navi. It'd make the tournament around double the length and with so many matches its more probable to go wrong.
well that's a tournament for ya, however I don't think you should carry the whole burden by yourself, I think you should note that everyone who has posted in this thread is trying to help you, E.G me3lingual has some great constructive criticism, perhaps by taking in everything hes saying and even PMing him, or anyone, people can help you run this tournament.
however its "your tournament" so if you want the stress be my guest <3
Spayyce
Just a comment passing through.

Anyway, I know for a fact the PP seeding was not the best and the RNG is much better. >.>
ChicagoTed

destructor966 wrote:

Simply put, I am in this for the fun of it, getting higher through the tournament doesn't exactly mean you are better than everyone else. Would you believe that I am better than doomsday if I somehow get a win? If you entered in this tournament then you should have really expected to face anyone of any skill level and should not expect an easy match.

I just hope everyone gives it their best shot regardless of who they play.
When I first signed up, I was matched against you and I was like "Oh god, I'm going to lose." but when it changed to the RNG bracket, I remembered that I had joined this to have fun instead of feel competitive or bad when I lose.
Crai
I don't see why it matters, i'm going to win regardless of how this thing is seeded.
Topic Starter
Lapis-
#FIGHTINGTALK
wanony
Crai will prove himself #1 Scotland if he gets in the top 3.

Blaziken
Cant. Fucking. Wait
WeedMaster_old

Deathosaurus wrote:

Crai will prove himself #1 Scotland if he gets in the top 3.

Yeah, he can finally say he's better than SoraRoxas01 if he does that
Crai

WeedMaster wrote:

Yeah, he can finally say he's better than SoraRoxas01 if he does that
Yeah, but he's a hacker. I'll never be able to reach the sick feats he has achieved, such as Shotgun Senorita FC and Golden Sky + DT FC.
jasian
Come join 'UK osu!standard 2 R064 map pool' for practicing. Currently room is not made.
Ventus
im not a hacker :(
wanony

WeedMaster wrote:

Yeah, he can finally say he's better than SoraRoxas01 if he does that
Wow the bm

SoraRoxas01 wrote:

im not a hacker :(
Also the more you try to deny it the more you look like you are a lovesmacker~


So many UK players are cheaters or have multi-accounts. I know we all know of one of them.
Now where was that Spare pack of digestives I had lying around...
AmaiHachimitsu
I'm amazed nobody talked shit about the mappool.


I guess all complaints are in Andrea's inbox now
MoeYandere
Huehuehuehue~ Get ready for the rush~! Liking the map pool atm
Raiku
navi agree, winner loser bracket sounds very compelling.

oh and in regards to the previous post, im not disrespecting any players or at least didnt mean to (soz charley you are better than me for that matter) but it just seemed to me that most of the top 10 were bunched in the last letters of the bracket and you alone were in the top facing very few to players till mabye 5th game, just an opinion, dont get too wound up over it, just a little criticism


sorry again portal that you had to deal with people questioning you over match fixing as a result of my post
Topic Starter
Lapis-
Sadly EatYourMatress has suffered some tech issues and has requested a drop out. His opp, [ Thanatos ] shall enjoy a advancement to the second round. Guess you can say this is first blood xD
ibecolours

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I'm amazed nobody talked shit about the mappool.


I guess all complaints are in Andrea's inbox now
No people have complained
Crai

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I'm amazed nobody talked shit about the mappool.


I guess all complaints are in Andrea's inbox now
The ar8 map is pretty hilarious, overall the pool is fine.
Topic Starter
Lapis-
Far East Nightbird? Its only streams, no jumps lol. Even a weakling like me could read it :D
Rinnou Kouriri

Deathosaurus wrote:

Crai will prove himself #1 Scotland if he gets in the top 3.



But on another note, for those of you too lazy to download all the maps individually, here you go.
https://mega.co.nz/#!VBIEAR5C!f9BUeshKDyNkRpwmFWSdgSZo5ZGnIXQ-mByrDlClm1E

Puush was being a biiiit of a diked and had problems connecting. So for now take this Mega link and enjoy!
If puush decides to work sooner or later, I'll upload a puush for it as well.
Blaziken
I thought the map pool was going to be piss hard difficult but I can play most of those maps, I might be able to tiebreaker.
heh...
AmaiHachimitsu
That was the point of it.

Everybody should be able to play those maps more or less, but those better players will find them easier to fc under the pressure.
vidya
Is it just me or are the HR maps hard
ChicagoTed

vidya wrote:

Is it just me or are the HR maps hard
I hate to reveal my weakness, but I've lost anyway.. If Jesus1412 chose a HR map, he'd get a point instantly.
AmaiHachimitsu
My priorities when choosing hr maps were:

reasonably low hp drain
not-so-hard to full combo


Kinema might be hard to high acc, but you can still pull off a fc. There is one slowdown when you might fail but just after there is a bunch of consecutive reverse sliders so you can revive easily. D:
MoeYandere
Overall easy maps, able to full combo
Question though are the maps gonna be harder as we move through the rounds?
vidya

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

There is one slowdown when you might fail but just after there is a bunch of consecutive reverse sliders so you can revive easily. D:

PortalLife wrote:

If you fail, you lose that map.
AmaiHachimitsu
Question though are the maps gonna be harder as we move through the rounds?
Of course, we plan to tell boys and men apart as soon as in RO16

vidya wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

There is one slowdown when you might fail but just after there is a bunch of consecutive reverse sliders so you can revive easily. D:

PortalLife wrote:

If you fail, you lose that map.
AFAIK It's not that you can't recover. You will lose the map only when you fail and don't recover. I'll ask Portal about it but since he is doing this tournament in OWC fashion in terms of match rules, it should be the way I just said.
Topic Starter
Lapis-
In team vs, you fail when the team fails. These are teams of 1.
AmaiHachimitsu
The question is if we can recover, it should be in the rules :<
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