What is Raw Input?

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Zombii

Spyrunite wrote:

That's exactly the way it was before the update, maybe you didn't install the update?

Edit: Ok, so I thought about this some more. Is the reason that the cursor is locked in the window because otherwise the raw imput wouldn't be happening? If that is the way it works then I understand why it is locked down the way it is, but the above problems still exist.
No, I've definitely installed the update.
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peppy
I will likely add a way to disable it for supported devices in the next update. Please wait calmly until then.
Spyrunite

peppy wrote:

I will likely add a way to disable it for supported devices in the next update. Please wait calmly until then.
Would it be possible to make it so that the area acts the same as it was before (with the area of the tablet being to your full monitor) with 1.0 speed in game and get raw imput or is that not doable?
Saitolai
Guys can recommend me tablets that can run Osu?(PC VER )
Coz I'm not sure which one could :/
Zinkon
After this patch when not playing (when spectating) my fps is 60, which is lower than my refresh rate(75hz). This makes the game look choppy.

Edit: Woops, didn't read the title. Thought this was the latest patch thread.
Fendon
This is a excellent change in general, but especially for win 8.1 users, thanks a lot Peppy!
Nyaarlathotep
"use unlimited and pay the extra power bill."

I don't really think it makes that much of a difference.
scottyyy

Yamadash wrote:

"use unlimited and pay the extra power bill."

I don't really think it makes that much of a difference.
Unlimited fps = video card works harder = more power usage

Remember when Starcraft 2 first came out and the menu was unlimited fps? People's GPUs overheated and died.
TakuMii
Hey, just a question: Do you have any plans of supporting this on touch screens?
Moodkiller03

peppy wrote:

Why doesn't it work with Wacom tablets?

Wacom tablets use proprietary drivers, which don't conform to hardware standards. I may look at adding support for them later.
Please do :D - this would be awesome, would love to adjust the sensitivity to more than 1.0x through osu! :)
Rinku
So I was told Windows Aero causes a delay as well and believe it to be true, does this bypass that specific delay as well?
TakuMii

Moodkiller03 wrote:

Please do :D - this would be awesome, would love to adjust the sensitivity to more than 1.0x through osu! :)
Raw Input support for Wacom devices wouldn't make that possible... If you want to increase your tablet's sensitivity, change the size of your tablet area through the drivers.

-Rinku- wrote:

So I was told Windows Aero causes a delay as well and believe it to be true, does this bypass that specific delay as well?
Aero causes visual delay, so this won't get around that.
vape
Thank you based peppy. -All mouse users
DeltaBurnt
So I followed the guide to make my mouse input work in osu exactly how it did pre 8.1. But now I'm forced to use raw input to turn up the mouse sensitivity (something that worked perfectly fine before). Having the raw input option selected makes all my mouse movements feel very...dampened. When I turn up the mouse sensitivity with the raw input option it doesn't have the same effect it had before (1.3x used to be the perfect option for me, now I have to go to about 2.5x to get a similar effect), and it has more stutters.

Is there anyway to get the sensitivity to work as it did before the most recent update? I enjoy the raw input option, it's just annoying that I'm forced to use it because osu detects I'm 8.1 and thinks I have a problem I don't actually have.
Mathsma

DeltaBurnt wrote:

So I followed the guide to make my mouse input work in osu exactly how it did pre 8.1. But now I'm forced to use raw input to turn up the mouse sensitivity (something that worked perfectly fine before). Having the raw input option selected makes all my mouse movements feel very...dampened. When I turn up the mouse sensitivity with the raw input option it doesn't have the same effect it had before (1.3x used to be the perfect option for me, now I have to go to about 2.5x to get a similar effect), and it has more stutters.

Is there anyway to get the sensitivity to work as it did before the most recent update? I enjoy the raw input option, it's just annoying that I'm forced to use it because osu detects I'm 8.1 and thinks I have a problem I don't actually have.
Maybe you have you windows mouse settings changed from their defaults (6/11 mouse speed in pointer options). Raw input bypasses windows mouse settings and the game gets it directly from the hardware.
DeltaBurnt

Mathsma wrote:

Maybe you have you windows mouse settings changed from their defaults (6/11 mouse speed in pointer options). Raw input bypasses windows mouse settings and the game gets it directly from the hardware.
That seems to explain why raw input feels less sensitive, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem. I have to turn up the sensitivity past 2.0 to get any real effect, and it definitely feels less smooth (maybe because Windows isn't smoothing it I guess). I would definitely love an option to turn off the 8.1 check, mostly because it's very difficult to switch from one sensitivity to another after years of playing.
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peppy
Sorry but I'm not removing the win8.1 check. You can try adjusting your windows sensitivity and sticking it on 1.0x in osu! if you'd like to use the windows setting.
Oinari-sama

Yamadash wrote:

"use unlimited and pay the extra power bill."

I don't really think it makes that much of a difference.
It can make a huge difference depending on your setup.

I ran some tests when I built this PC and from what I've measured at the wall socket, unlimited (gameplay) uses 60% more power than 120fps capped. We're talking about a measly single HD6870 here, that figure is guaranteed to change if you have more "beastly" setup.

The result is up for interpretation depending on your view on sustainability issues though...
RemiFlan

peppy wrote:

Sorry but I'm not removing the win8.1 check. You can try adjusting your windows sensitivity and sticking it on 1.0x in osu! if you'd like to use the windows setting.
Kind of sucks, because I've had a harder time playing 1.2x with raw input than 1.2x without it for some reason. Just feels slower to me.

I have win8.1 so I'm forced raw input with 1.2x. Adjusting my sensitivity through control panel doesn't help much either =/
DeltaBurnt

peppy wrote:

Sorry but I'm not removing the win8.1 check. You can try adjusting your windows sensitivity and sticking it on 1.0x in osu! if you'd like to use the windows setting.
Could you at least let us change the sensitivity through the config file without it automatically turning on raw input? I realize the check will stop a lot of people on 8.1 from whining about mouse issues, but this really hurts how I (and other people) play in a very big way.
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