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anaxii
in the 90s, people of the older generation thought that in 2020, we will have flying cars and buildings, that internet is going to die, that virtual reality will be at the center of our lives, that we will live forever thanks to genetics and cloning etc.

now, except the cloning thingy that we do towards animals and the virtual reality, we're pretty much wrong on most predictions lol

so since we're in 2024, what's the future going to look like in 2050 (or in 2100)?
Nanofranne
I think people tend to assume what we will invent in the future but rarely consider how practical it will be, let alone if it solve the future's problem. Flying cars are practically nonexistent because It serve no purpose. It's also dangerous considering that if you ever want to go within city with many buildings and stuff. And how would you even manage to take off? You need basically small runway which I doubt you will ever get this stuff elsewhere.

One thing I'm certain about is invention and innovation on solving climate change. So things like battery will get better, ever more efficient renewables, perhaps we will figure out how to make nuclear fussion (soon™), perhaps we figure out how to make nuclear reactor much cheaper and much faster to build, also AI of course.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Nanofranne wrote:

I think people tend to assume what we will invent in the future but rarely consider how practical it will be, let alone if it solve the future's problem. Flying cars are practically nonexistent because It serve no purpose. It's also dangerous considering that if you ever want to go within city with many buildings and stuff. And how would you even manage to take off? You need basically small runway which I doubt you will ever get this stuff elsewhere.

One thing I'm certain about is invention and innovation on solving climate change. So things like battery will get better, ever more efficient renewables, perhaps we will figure out how to make nuclear fussion (soon™), perhaps we figure out how to make nuclear reactor much cheaper and much faster to build, also AI of course.
so we will still live the life that we're currently living in the future, right?
Nanofranne

Anaxii wrote:

Nanofranne wrote:

I think people tend to assume what we will invent in the future but rarely consider how practical it will be, let alone if it solve the future's problem. Flying cars are practically nonexistent because It serve no purpose. It's also dangerous considering that if you ever want to go within city with many buildings and stuff. And how would you even manage to take off? You need basically small runway which I doubt you will ever get this stuff elsewhere.

One thing I'm certain about is invention and innovation on solving climate change. So things like battery will get better, ever more efficient renewables, perhaps we will figure out how to make nuclear fussion (soon™), perhaps we figure out how to make nuclear reactor much cheaper and much faster to build, also AI of course.
so we will still live the life that we're currently living in the future, right?
If we don't extinct ourself in the process
Topic Starter
anaxii

Nanofranne wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Nanofranne wrote:

I think people tend to assume what we will invent in the future but rarely consider how practical it will be, let alone if it solve the future's problem. Flying cars are practically nonexistent because It serve no purpose. It's also dangerous considering that if you ever want to go within city with many buildings and stuff. And how would you even manage to take off? You need basically small runway which I doubt you will ever get this stuff elsewhere.

One thing I'm certain about is invention and innovation on solving climate change. So things like battery will get better, ever more efficient renewables, perhaps we will figure out how to make nuclear fussion (soon™), perhaps we figure out how to make nuclear reactor much cheaper and much faster to build, also AI of course.
so we will still live the life that we're currently living in the future, right?
If we don't extinct ourself in the process
unless if there's another deadly virus or something XDDDD
Lyawi
for some reason I have never thought about flying buildings but the thought of it makes sense

I think we are still very far from all the imaginations, we just got electronic cars. 2050, I think nothing much will have changed except digital media being more advanced

how comes we're so slow, too high expectations or are we just too lazy at this point?
B0ii
I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
Nanofranne

Lyawi wrote:

for some reason I have never thought about flying buildings but the thought of it makes sense

I think we are still very far from all the imaginations, we just got electronic cars. 2050, I think nothing much will have changed except digital media being more advanced

how comes we're so slow, too high expectations or are we just too lazy at this point?
Electric cars exist in the early days alongside conventional gasoline car. It had much more problems than gasoline car. it only become feasible when we are more climate-consious, political and policy change, and battery technology started to mature.

If your vision of future is the same that of a Sci-Fi material, then we are way way too early for that stuff. Sci-Fi artist often only focus on visual aesthetic than how practical they are in real life.

Now that I remember of it, I often cringe with hollywood when they make a Hi-tech Computer CGI UI bullshit. IDk, I don't like it

Flying cars do indeed looks cool though
Topic Starter
anaxii

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
there are always exceptions though
Patatitta

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
if we ever get to that point I expect a lot of civil wars and regular wars that will change the political/economical system like it has happened over and over again in the past, so yeah, that may happen, but only for a while
Topic Starter
anaxii

Patatitta wrote:

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
if we ever get to that point I expect a lot of civil wars and regular wars that will change the political/economical system like it has happened over and over again in the past, so yeah, that may happen, but only for a while
so basically the French Revolution
Jangsoodlor

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
if we ever get to that point I expect a lot of civil wars and regular wars that will change the political/economical system like it has happened over and over again in the past, so yeah, that may happen, but only for a while
so basically the French Revolution
More like the Russian one.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
if we ever get to that point I expect a lot of civil wars and regular wars that will change the political/economical system like it has happened over and over again in the past, so yeah, that may happen, but only for a while
so basically the French Revolution
More like the Russian one.
every revolution in general
UPR
I am not sure, probably similar to now if I were to wager, but with more minor advancements in all directions (cause people forget the smallest technological advancements still happen) a potentially better climate control policy globally and more balanced energy production at the most. The population will probably plateau for a time but start to climb high again as things (potentially) get better. Old global powers will fall into irrelevancy, and new ones will rise to take their places. Overall it will just be another time in the world as human history goes on and that's ok
Ymir
In the future the world will look exactly the same as it does now.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Ymir wrote:

In the future the world will look exactly the same as it does now.
with differences
Ymir

Anaxii wrote:

Ymir wrote:

In the future the world will look exactly the same as it does now.
with differences
True, but harder to notice at a first glance.
Maybe employment will be different, overpopulation and housing prices will be an issue, and gaming will be on the cloud.
Art will no longer be a viable way of expressing our human creativity, in fact creativity as a whole might either die out or be somehow more vast.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Ymir wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Ymir wrote:

In the future the world will look exactly the same as it does now.
with differences
True, but harder to notice at a first glance.
Maybe employment will be different, overpopulation and housing prices will be an issue, and gaming will be on the cloud.
Art will no longer be a viable way of expressing our human creativity, in fact creativity as a whole might either die out or be somehow more vast.
i don't think that creativity will die in the future since humans always have a way to express their imagination. with gaming for example, we can create amazing art in video games for the eyes of the players
__scripting

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
i truly believe in that... fun question to discuss btw
Topic Starter
anaxii

__scripting wrote:

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
i truly believe in that... fun question to discuss btw
i think that in 2100 we will still live as now
__scripting

Anaxii wrote:

__scripting wrote:

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
i truly believe in that... fun question to discuss btw
i think that in 2100 we will still live as now
yup. nowadays there are people(few) who lived through the both of big wars in terrible conditions and are still alive. llets see what our gen will be like in 80-90 years, les see...
Topic Starter
anaxii

__scripting wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

__scripting wrote:

B0ii wrote:

I think by 2100 it will impossible to escape the lower economic classes
i truly believe in that... fun question to discuss btw
i think that in 2100 we will still live as now
yup. nowadays there are people(few) who lived through the both of big wars in terrible conditions and are still alive. llets see what our gen will be like in 80-90 years, les see...
war and shit like that will never end...
nominomu
i believe the world will always get better, and humanity will find a way out of war and poverty somehow, but if something does go wrong the consequences will be much worse than in the past
Topic Starter
anaxii

nominomu wrote:

i believe the world will always get better, and humanity will find a way out of war and poverty somehow, but if something does go wrong the consequences will be much worse than in the past
i'm the opposite actually... it's unlikely that humanity will live in a world without war or inequalities
B0ii

Anaxii wrote:

nominomu wrote:

i believe the world will always get better, and humanity will find a way out of war and poverty somehow, but if something does go wrong the consequences will be much worse than in the past
i'm the opposite actually... it's unlikely that humanity will live in a world without war or inequalities
we will have another dark age starting soon
Avian dinosaur
Speaking of cars, I hope future cities reduce amount of cars passing through them instead of EV's simply taking place of gas fueled cars without other changes, especially if some are really concerned about global warming (or years without summer). Cars are not number one reason for bad things their oppoments say but reduced amount of them in cities might improve quality of life.
Arctos Sagittario

Avian dinosaur wrote:

Speaking of cars, I hope future cities reduce amount of cars passing through them instead of EV's simply taking place of gas fueled cars without other changes, especially if some are really concerned about global warming (or years without summer). Cars are not number one reason for bad things their oppoments say but reduced amount of them in cities might improve quality of life.
in fact according to the tendency of last 2 years, I'd say that the electrify attempt on personal vehicles would die down for probably all countries except china, as there are already voices about delaying or aborting bans on petrol vehicles in europe last year

according to that, I'd give some educated guess that some of the real reasons for banning petrol cars would be:
1. big heads in europe and america don't want arabs to easily earn trillions of dollars
2. they don't want other countries to catch up, they want to stay ahead
3. they believe that europe and america would build complete industrial supply chains by starting early

and those 3 reasons are void because:
2. china caught up
3. with a complete supply chain. they don't have to rely on nvidia even
1. while making trillions by oil, arabs invest tremendously on these chinese ev companies too

so, environmental concern really would be more of an excuse, because everybody knows that v12 engines are not the killing factor to polar bears anymore with today's tech, especially when scientists are mixing clean biofuel and trying very hard to put them into mass production
Jangsoodlor

Avian dinosaur wrote:

Speaking of cars, I hope future cities reduce amount of cars passing through them instead of EV's simply taking place of gas fueled cars without other changes, especially if some are really concerned about global warming (or years without summer). Cars are not number one reason for bad things their oppoments say but reduced amount of them in cities might improve quality of life.
Trains are the future fr

Arctos Sagittario wrote:

in fact according to the tendency of last 2 years, I'd say that the electrify attempt on personal vehicles would die down for probably all countries except china, as there are already voices about delaying or aborting bans on petrol vehicles in europe last year
Chinese EV cars are everywhere where I live. They are really cheap and fully-packed with features compared to its Japanese counterparts (which dominates here). But with somewhat questionable built quality
Avian dinosaur

Arctos Sagittario wrote:

in fact according to the tendency of last 2 years, I'd say that the electrify attempt on personal vehicles would die down for probably all countries except china, as there are already voices about delaying or aborting bans on petrol vehicles in europe last year

according to that, I'd give some educated guess that some of the real reasons for banning petrol cars would be:
1. big heads in europe and america don't want arabs to easily earn trillions of dollars
2. they don't want other countries to catch up, they want to stay ahead
3. they believe that europe and america would build complete industrial supply chains by starting early

and those 3 reasons are void because:
2. china caught up
3. with a complete supply chain. they don't have to rely on nvidia even
1. while making trillions by oil, arabs invest tremendously on these chinese ev companies too

so, environmental concern really would be more of an excuse, because everybody knows that v12 engines are not the killing factor to polar bears anymore with today's tech, especially when scientists are mixing clean biofuel and trying very hard to put them into mass production
Turns out there is actually more on that than "i said it is for the environment believe me" thing


Jangsoodlor wrote:

Chinese EV cars are everywhere where I live. They are really cheap and fully-packed with features compared to its Japanese counterparts (which dominates here). But with somewhat questionable built quality
Are evs more popular in the east? Asking this because not many ev's appear in where I live, maybe because not everyone can afford one and the "not everyone" are big part in where I live, a numerator nearing the denominator in a fraction. Not just inaffordability but I think that at least older people's views on ev's also influences how many evs are in my city, and older people view it as a fad that might die out in years.
Arctos Sagittario

Avian dinosaur wrote:

Are evs more popular in the east? Asking this because not many ev's appear in where I live, maybe because not everyone can afford one and the "not everyone" are big part in where I live, a numerator nearing the denominator in a fraction. Not just inaffordability but I think that at least older people's views on ev's also influences how many evs are in my city, and older people view it as a fad that might die out in years.
generally speaking, it’s mostly china and southeastern asia. japan for example only has 5% of battery ev sales in domestic market last year, whereas the figure in china is 35%

the main difference would be that ev budget cars is a big thing here, but not many other places. in china we have ev sweeping the market of CNY150,000 and lower, which would be roughly EUR15,000

here’s a youtube channel
introducing cars from chinese market perspective, the presenter is a F1 broadcast with FE team working history so he has some experience with european locals
MistressRemilia

Anaxii wrote:

in the 90s, people of the older generation thought that in 2020, we will have flying cars and buildings, that internet is going to die, that virtual reality will be at the center of our lives, that we will live forever thanks to genetics and cloning etc.

now, except the cloning thingy that we do towards animals and the virtual reality, we're pretty much wrong on most predictions lol

so since we're in 2024, what's the future going to look like in 2050 (or in 2100)?
Well, having lived in the 90s...

from what I remember, it was really just the crazies that thought we'd have flying cars and buildings. Like no one with common sense took it seriously, it was just science fiction. A lot of computer systems could have legit died if work hadn't been done for Y2K, just like 2038 can be a potential legit issue, but I don't think most people thought we were about to go into anarchy when the clock struck midnight. The computer people knew what had to happen and got it done, and the rest of it was kinda half tongue-in-cheek. Again, that's just what I remember. I was 6 in 1990, so...

VR was something more of a fad than not, kinda like these days. Something that was "cool" but obviously lacking. I was definitely hopeful about living longer, but I don't know if I ever truly believed that XD

I think if anything, we were just more naive towards how the political landscape would change, and now the common people of my generation are caught off guard.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if we just degenerate further into a cyberpunk world by 2050 or 2100. We're already in one, and we'll probably end up in Blade Runner or Cyberpunk 2077 or Bubblegum Crisis eventually, minus the cool parts, and with extra fascism.
Avian dinosaur

MistressRemilia wrote:

A lot of computer systems could have legit died if work hadn't been done for Y2K, just like 2038 can be a potential legit issue, but I don't think most people thought we were about to go into anarchy when the clock struck midnight.
At first 2038 bug in 2038 might be insignificant because systems should be already 64-bit or set up to work with 64 bit integers like using two registers to store values.

But then in 29th feb this year, payment terminals in new zealand and EA Sports WRC were tripping due to leap year
Jangsoodlor

Avian dinosaur wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Chinese EV cars are everywhere where I live. They are really cheap and fully-packed with features compared to its Japanese counterparts (which dominates here). But with somewhat questionable built quality
Are evs more popular in the east? Asking this because not many ev's appear in where I live, maybe because not everyone can afford one and the "not everyone" are big part in where I live, a numerator nearing the denominator in a fraction. Not just inaffordability but I think that at least older people's views on ev's also influences how many evs are in my city, and older people view it as a fad that might die out in years.
There're cheap Chinese brands like Great Wall Motor, MG, Neta, Ora etc. Neta, for example, sells their car for like a little over $10000
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