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Is money the bane of our generation?

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anaxii
It's crazy to think that we can't live in a society where absolutely everything has to be paid for and monetized, like in the past, we used to barter our objects with other people because there was no real money or anything. Now, we've even created virtual currencies that may disappear at any moment. Even the most important things, such as breathing or eating must be paid for in order to stay healthy at least.

That's exactly the problem of money in general: There are so many people who are willing to do the most horrible things like kill or harm the lives of their loved ones for an amount of money. That's why in countries where poverty is high and/or when part of the population is disadvantaged, people are more likely to assault or steal for valuable items such as jewelry, clothing, phones, etc. Most of the time, they do it because they can't afford to buy these objects even if they work every day until nightfall.

For me, even if it's something essential in a society, money has more negative than positive aspects. What do you think of this?
Duck o-o
there has always been money
money is also based around objects
we still barter
all money can disappear at any moment
the most important things were also monetized in early society
those people are willing to kill or harm others for anything that will help themselves, not just money
new zealand has the highest burglary rate in the world and is not what you would consider a disadvantaged population

pls stop posting milquetoast slop ;-; i cri everytim
Topic Starter
anaxii

Dementedduck wrote:

there has always been money
money is also based around objects
we still barter
all money can disappear at any moment
the most important things were also monetized in early society
those people are willing to kill or harm others for anything that will help themselves, not just money
new zealand has the highest burglary rate in the world and is not what you would consider a disadvantaged population

pls stop posting milquetoast slop ;-; i cri everytim
not necessarily
of course it is
we always do this
riskier with virtual money since the money doesn't even exist - it's just numbers behind a screen
only the most important things, most of the rest was worthless if not recognized by the people (unlike our mentality today)
the vast majority do it because they want to better their current situation, so one of the reasons for this could be a lack of money
i never said that people don't steal in a country that aren't disadvantaged
BlueChinchompa

Dementedduck wrote:

pls stop posting milquetoast slop ;-; i cri everytim
I personally really enjoy these threads.
Ymir

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

pls stop posting milquetoast slop ;-; i cri everytim
I personally really enjoy these threads.
Except I don't understand this one because money has always existed.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Ymir wrote:

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

pls stop posting milquetoast slop ;-; i cri everytim
I personally really enjoy these threads.
Except I don't understand this one because money has always existed.
no
Ymir
Well it has existed for like, 2000 years. Personally don't see it as something which ruins our generation.

However, what I will say, is that despite money itself not being an issue, corporations taking advantage of children in order to make money is!
Patatitta
this is just the capitalism thread all over again

money itself is not the problem, is the system where that money operates, in this case, you are complaining about capitalism, not about money itself
Neigdoig
The love of money, absolutely. Wanting money to have more money is bad news, and it is entitled to think this way.

Otherwise, getting money by helping people with tech problems they have (as an example for me) is a better way to go instead of getting money just for money. There should be value in helping people out with whatever service is needed.
Corne2Plum3
Welcome to capitalism society
Jangsoodlor

Patatitta wrote:

this is just the capitalism thread all over again

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Welcome to capitalism society
Topic Starter
anaxii

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

this is just the capitalism thread all over again

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Welcome to capitalism society
i hate capitalism
Rezq Gokou
This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
Topic Starter
anaxii

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
Patatitta

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
Topic Starter
anaxii

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
Patatitta

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
Topic Starter
anaxii

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
Patatitta

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
Topic Starter
anaxii

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...
Patatitta

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...
communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself
Topic Starter
anaxii

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...

communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself
i said communism because of the robots and political propaganda thingy which is LITERALLY not what the world wants

i'm not saying that we must create an utopia, just that we can try to make it less unfair for disadvantaged people... but most people are too greedy to think about it unfortunately
Fxjlk
Money is a necessary evil. Without society and money we are essentially living in mother nature and she is much more cruel. Nature doesn't care about your feelings, resources are scarce and survival is very hard for most animals.

We eventually gained a large amount of control over nature through working together. We created money and society as a way to "fairly" distribute our collective control over nature.

The reason why money and society is also cruel is because its nested inside mother nature. All other systems have eventually failed because they don't reflect the reality that we live in. Resources are scarce and there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Patatitta

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...

communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself
i said communism because of the robots and political propaganda thingy which is LITERALLY not what the world wants

i'm not saying that we must create an utopia, just that we can try to make it less unfair for disadvantaged people... but most people are too greedy to think about it unfortunately
Communism does not have to do with robots. It is true that it's extremely hard to implement and maintain it but saying that people should become robots is oversimplifying it. Also, there is political propaganda from all sides, the USSR of course printed a lot of propaganda but also did the united states, it's called the cold war.

I don't think people are "too greedy" to think about the entire world, it's just that what they believe is right and fair just turns out not to be that. It's not a "they are just greedy" scenario, it's people believing some really bad solutions are actual solutions, so yeah, I believe the truth is a little bit more fucked up than you're saying.
Jangsoodlor

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
I'd say we'd failed even harder if we operates 100% on logic. For example, if humanity which operates on that logic want to reduce CO2 emission. Then found out that THEY are the ones who contributed the most to global warming by a huge margin. The most logical thing to do then is to stop emitting stuffs, which could means that we'd have to go back to 1800s living standards. Theoretically we could come to an even worse conclusion which I believe is not appropriate to express here.


Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...

communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself

i said communism because of the robots and political propaganda thingy which is LITERALLY not what the world wants

i'm not saying that we must create an utopia, just that we can try to make it less unfair for disadvantaged people... but most people are too greedy to think about it unfortunately
That's the way the system operates. Like video games, there'll be those who'll eventually exploit the loophole in the system, which doesn't necessarily equates to cheating because such exploits are not prohibited by the rules of the game. Unless the devs patched it.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...

communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself

i said communism because of the robots and political propaganda thingy which is LITERALLY not what the world wants

i'm not saying that we must create an utopia, just that we can try to make it less unfair for disadvantaged people... but most people are too greedy to think about it unfortunately
That's the way the system operates. Like video games, there'll be those who'll eventually exploit the loophole in the system, which doesn't necessarily equates to cheating because such exploits are not prohibited by the rules of the game. Unless the devs patched it.
so people with intentions will always try to break the rules in order to feel special? damn
Reyalp51
Love reading about the solution to capitalism on a video games forum
Topic Starter
anaxii

Reyalp51 wrote:

Love reading about the solution to capitalism on a video games forum
life is amazing
Jangsoodlor

Anaxii wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...

communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself

i said communism because of the robots and political propaganda thingy which is LITERALLY not what the world wants

i'm not saying that we must create an utopia, just that we can try to make it less unfair for disadvantaged people... but most people are too greedy to think about it unfortunately
That's the way the system operates. Like video games, there'll be those who'll eventually exploit the loophole in the system, which doesn't necessarily equates to cheating because such exploits are not prohibited by the rules of the game. Unless the devs patched it.
so people with intentions will always try to break the rules in order to feel special? damn
You never played rpgs then
Topic Starter
anaxii

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

This is not only problem of our generation. Our generation not even the worst for this. We are no longer in the era of great depression anymore. And thank god we aren't
sadly our generation has a plenty of problems that we have to fix in order to grant peace in the world

but it's never going to happen since people are greedy asf...
mfw the thing preventing humans from creating a utopia is human nature itself
a perfect world obviously doesn't exist, but we can at least try to better this place to our advantage
yeah we can make it better, but not like world peace levels of good
why not? it's better if people doesn't harm others like we always do overtime
I mean, it's easy to say, but preventing violence at a global scale is just impossible, we would have to become robots that cant develop mental illnesses or fall for political propaganda and only operated under the most logical and mathematically perfect actions in order to prevent that
it's just communism...

communism is a different economical system, it's not really related to world peace. To stop wars in their entirety for the rest of the future, we would need to have human nature irself

i said communism because of the robots and political propaganda thingy which is LITERALLY not what the world wants

i'm not saying that we must create an utopia, just that we can try to make it less unfair for disadvantaged people... but most people are too greedy to think about it unfortunately
That's the way the system operates. Like video games, there'll be those who'll eventually exploit the loophole in the system, which doesn't necessarily equates to cheating because such exploits are not prohibited by the rules of the game. Unless the devs patched it.
so people with intentions will always try to break the rules in order to feel special? damn
You never played rpgs then
unfortunately, no.
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