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Ajitama
Hello UndeadBananaz :) I want to start off by saying great work on this map. I see you've put a lot of time into it.

Here are some things that might help you ^.^
04:19:991 (1) - starting with this slider maybe change the hit sounds on every downbeat to emphasize the bass drum in the background.
04:26:848 (1) - Great flow here I really like it :D
06:10:905 (1) - This kiai time doesn't seem as BIG as the others but its up to you if you want to remove it

Good luck Bananaz 8-)
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UndeadBananaz

Ajitama wrote:

Hello UndeadBananaz :) I want to start off by saying great work on this map. I see you've put a lot of time into it. thanks

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Here are some things that might help you ^.^
04:19:991 (1) - starting with this slider maybe change the hit sounds on every downbeat to emphasize the bass drum in the background. I didn't add hitsounds starting directly at 04:19:991 because that whole part feels kind of "in the background", so i only used volume increases to make the transition "into the foreground". But I did add some finisher hitsounds on certain downbeats that were stronger starting at 04:26:848 (1)
04:26:848 (1) - Great flow here I really like it :D Thanks, I don't think that's anything special though lol
06:10:905 (1) - This kiai time doesn't seem as BIG as the others but its up to you if you want to remove it You're right this kiai is really short but I think it fits so much. I'm going to keep it.

Good luck Bananaz 8-)
Thanks for the mod, applied some of the suggestions and updated.
neonat
Legend

You can't have silent parts in terms of hitsound audio, you have to increase it to at least an audible level, even if it's soft

00:22:220 (1) - add a finish to it
00:51:470 (2,3) - slightly imperfect, the slider end of 00:51:470 (2) is closer to 00:51:920 (3) than the start
00:51:920 (3,1) - same thing, shift slightly the end of 00:52:220 (1)
00:53:420 (1,5) - I actually think making them sliders in unnecessary. Hearing the song, having circles at 00:53:420 and 00:53:870 fit exactly, as well give the playing a certain bounce
01:22:520 (4) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider but place a whistle on the 2 repeat arrow
01:22:820 (5) - remove whistle
01:40:220 (1,2) - the slider body of doesn't blanket 01:40:670 (2) well
01:46:520 (2) - add a whistle at the end of the slider
01:46:820 (3) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider
01:48:920 (1,1) - are they really necessary? You even reduce the audio to it to almost unrankable (if not unrankable) levels so they can't be heard anyway. They are too hasty and not needed for any effect honestly
02:47:870 (4,5) - having the slider body blanket the other object is crucial as well
02:49:520 (3) - use the same shape as 02:48:620 (1) - 02:49:520 (3) is currently too curved
02:51:920 (5,1) - the jump shouldn't be here, listening to the music, the jump should be at 02:52:070 (1,2)
02:52:220 (2) - this should be the NC instead of 02:52:070 (1)
02:52:820 (6) - make the slider ends be on the same y axis level
02:58:220 (1) - ^
01:48:920 (1,1,1) - spinner start at 03:15:170 already, the held music was already starting from 03:15:020
03:29:420 (1) - blanket 03:30:020 (3) better and remove the whistle at the end of the slider
03:29:870 (2) - whistle
03:30:020 (3) - remove whistle
03:38:720 (3,1) - slider body blanket better
03:41:720 (2) - whistle at end of slider
03:42:020 (3) - remove whistle at start of slider
03:51:020 (1) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider
04:46:991 (8) - finish on both slider ends
05:01:991 (3) - remove whistle at start
05:02:848 (1) - remove whistle ^ these changes give the whistles more effect, going alongside the guitar
05:27:705 (1,3) - same as 00:53:420 (1,5)
05:34:905 (1) - finish
05:44:505 (1) - finish on start of slider
06:09:555 (4,1) - the angle is bad, shifting 06:09:705 (1) to somewhere like x:184 y:296 is better
06:11:205 (2,4) - same as 00:53:420 (1,5)
06:30:405 (1,1) - same as 01:48:920 (1,1) - having no objects is better for this part of the music, more impact is given to 06:31:305 (1) and the spinners ruin the moment and make players busy when they should anticipate that circle instead
06:37:305 (1,2) - why not 1/2 sliders (4 of them) to go with the guitar
06:51:405 (5,1) - blanket better
06:56:955 (2,3) - blanket the slider body as well
07:04:005 (2,4) - same as 00:53:420 (1,5)
07:06:105 (1) - finish on start of slider
07:07:305 (1,2) - blanket the slider body to the slider end of the other slider as well
07:10:005 (5,10) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider
07:11:205 (1) - end it with the 'oh' at 07:12:105 - leave the empty part for anticipation of 07:13:305 (1) and start the spinner 07:13:605 (1) right after the circle already at 07:13:455
07:32:805 (2) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider, add a whistle to the end instead
07:33:105 (3) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider
07:35:355 (2) - remove the whistle at the end of the slider
07:40:905 (1) - ^
07:41:355 (2) - add a whistle at the start of the slider and remove the whistle at the repeating end of the slider
07:42:105 (1) - remove the whistle at the end of the slider
07:44:805 (2) - remove the whistle at the end of the slider and add whistle at the repeating (middle) end of the slider
08:01:755 (1) - remove this spinner, it's unnecessary and is surplus to the song here. Add a circle at 08:02:205 instead to highlight and show the importance of the vocals at that beat



Whew. Man. Good Luck on this
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz
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neonat wrote:

Legend

You can't have silent parts in terms of hitsound audio, you have to increase it to at least an audible level, even if it's soft Oh, I know but they were audible to me, though yeah I guess it was too silent; upped the volume on those by 10% I think it shoud be fine now.

00:22:220 (1) - add a finish to it done
00:51:470 (2,3) - slightly imperfect, the slider end of 00:51:470 (2) is closer to 00:51:920 (3) than the start I think I fixed it... it's kind of hard for me to see this stuff for some reason lol
00:51:920 (3,1) - same thing, shift slightly the end of 00:52:220 (1) done
00:53:420 (1,5) - I actually think making them sliders in unnecessary. Hearing the song, having circles at 00:53:420 and 00:53:870 fit exactly, as well give the playing a certain bounce done
01:22:520 (4) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider but place a whistle on the 2 repeat arrow done
01:22:820 (5) - remove whistle done
01:40:220 (1,2) - the slider body of doesn't blanket 01:40:670 (2) well fixed
01:46:520 (2) - add a whistle at the end of the slider For this particular part I wanted the main focus of the whistles to be the drums (white ticks which are also the ones that are actively tapped here) instead of the vocals, so I'll leave them as they are. I did try out your suggestion and tried re-mapping it but for now I prefer it the way it is.
01:46:820 (3) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider same as above
01:48:920 (1,1) - are they really necessary? You even reduce the audio to it to almost unrankable (if not unrankable) levels so they can't be heard anyway. They are too hasty and not needed for any effect honestly Makes sense, removed them.
02:47:870 (4,5) - having the slider body blanket the other object is crucial as well I'm pretty sure it was already blanketing it perfectly just not as close. Moved it but very slightly
02:49:520 (3) - use the same shape as 02:48:620 (1) - 02:49:520 (3) is currently too curved done
02:51:920 (5,1) - the jump shouldn't be here, listening to the music, the jump should be at 02:52:070 (1,2) I kind of removed the jump altogether
02:52:220 (2) - this should be the NC instead of 02:52:070 (1) done
02:52:820 (6) - make the slider ends be on the same y axis level I slightly moved the whole part before that and changed the slider as well, should be fine now.
02:58:220 (1) - ^ done
01:48:920 (1,1,1) - spinner start at 03:15:170 already, the held music was already starting from 03:15:020 done
03:29:420 (1) - blanket 03:30:020 (3) better and remove the whistle at the end of the slider Done. I also changed these hitsounds for all choruses.
03:29:870 (2) - whistle ^
03:30:020 (3) - remove whistle ^
03:38:720 (3,1) - slider body blanket better done
03:41:720 (2) - whistle at end of slider Same as with your previous similar suggestion, I want the whistles to follow the white tick drums, I don't really like how it sounds any other way for this part. I might think of an alternative, but I will leave it like this for now.
03:42:020 (3) - remove whistle at start of slider ^
03:51:020 (1) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider done
04:46:991 (8) - finish on both slider ends I don't like overusing finisher hitsounds, and I prefer to use it on single stronger beats like the start of a measure.
05:01:991 (3) - remove whistle at start done, also switched places slider with circle to have the whistle on the start of the slider
05:02:848 (1) - remove whistle ^ these changes give the whistles more effect, going alongside the guitar done
05:27:705 (1,3) - same as 00:53:420 (1,5) I believe this part is slightly different if you listen to the drums; going to keep it.
05:34:905 (1) - finish done
05:44:505 (1) - finish on start of slider done
06:09:555 (4,1) - the angle is bad, shifting 06:09:705 (1) to somewhere like x:184 y:296 is better Slightly repositioned these
06:11:205 (2,4) - same as 00:53:420 (1,5) done
06:30:405 (1,1) - same as 01:48:920 (1,1) - having no objects is better for this part of the music, more impact is given to 06:31:305 (1) and the spinners ruin the moment and make players busy when they should anticipate that circle instead done, although i'm not really sure about this one, since there are still background guitar notes, feels kinda empty without anything there
06:37:305 (1,2) - why not 1/2 sliders (4 of them) to go with the guitar wouldn't make much sense because 06:37:755 (2) - starts on the stronger note, if i were to use 1/2 sliders it would focus on the wrong notes
06:51:405 (5,1) - blanket better done... i think
06:56:955 (2,3) - blanket the slider body as well changed this part a little
07:04:005 (2,4) - same as 00:53:420 (1,5) done
07:06:105 (1) - finish on start of slider done
07:07:305 (1,2) - blanket the slider body to the slider end of the other slider as well done
07:10:005 (5,10) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider done
07:11:205 (1) - end it with the 'oh' at 07:12:105 - leave the empty part for anticipation of 07:13:305 (1) and start the spinner 07:13:605 (1) right after the circle already at 07:13:455 done; really liked the suggestion with the first spinner, not sure why I didn't think of that; also applied this to an earlier part in the song that's the same
07:32:805 (2) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider, add a whistle to the end instead
07:33:105 (3) - remove the whistle at the start of the slider remapped this measure and used the suggested hitsounds
07:35:355 (2) - remove the whistle at the end of the slider done
07:40:905 (1) - ^ done
07:41:355 (2) - add a whistle at the start of the slider and remove the whistle at the repeating end of the slider done
07:42:105 (1) - remove the whistle at the end of the slider done
07:44:805 (2) - remove the whistle at the end of the slider and add whistle at the repeating (middle) end of the slider I prefer it the way it was for this part
08:01:755 (1) - remove this spinner, it's unnecessary and is surplus to the song here. Add a circle at 08:02:205 instead to highlight and show the importance of the vocals at that beat I like the spinner here because of the guitar in the background, and I don't like having objects only for vocal parts (when there aren't any other strong beats along with it); so I'm going to keep it like this



Whew. Man. Good Luck on thisWow. Took me quite a while to go through the entire mod. All of the suggestions were great, the ones I declined were personal preference (and I will still keep them in mind). Thanks a lot for the huge mod, was extremely helpful. Updated.
fergas
Просто идеи, идеи которые проскочили при просмотре карты. Все это связанно с моим личным мнением, так что смело игнорируй, если тебе в корне что-то не нарвиться:

  • Legend
  1. 00:00:620 (1,2,3) - , 00:03:020 (1,2) - , 00:05:120 (1,2,3) - Может быть подчеркнуть характерный звук из песни каким либо соответствующим паттерном? Стак или джамп как на 00:09:920 (1,2,3) - Просто будет чуток опрятнее выглядить
  2. 00:04:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - если будешь стакать 00:05:120 (1,2) - попробуй 00:04:820 (5,6) - переместить таким образом, что все комбо выглядело чутка более сбалансированным в плане передвижения
  3. 00:07:070 (4,6) - ctrl+g -> 00:07:220 (5,6) - ctrl+g. Новое перемещение между 00:07:220 (5,6,1) - чуток более приятнее выглядит, так как напоминает движения 00:06:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -. Старый вариант чутка ломает движение 5,6,1.
  4. 00:10:370 (1) - хз, но я бы продлил его до 00:12:470 - или выпили бы. На данный момент спиннер выглядит как-то не полноценно - звук гиатры вообще никак не изменяется, и вдруг бац! конец спинера - странно смотрится. В любом случае сместить начало на синий тик.
  5. 00:13:670 (7,1) - можно чутка раздвинуть. На всех подобных местах у тебя дистанция колеблетесь в районе 1,7~1,9 старайся сохранять ее для чистота паттерна(это касается всех впереди идущих аналогичных моментах)
  6. 00:26:120 (1,2,3) - может оказаться сложным местом. 00:26:120 (1) - на конце слайдера сильный бит лежит, тогда как начало 00:26:420 (2) - почти пустой - такие моменты бывают сбивают с ритма. Здесь это не столь критично, но все же... Попробуй такой вариант, ну или что-нибудь свое.
  7. 00:40:820 (9,10,11,12) - мб попробовать чутка подкорректировать его : -7 градусов и сместить чуть влево примерно x:184 y:248. придирка, но переход 00:40:670 (8,9,10) - будет чуть более соответствовать переходу 00:40:070 (4,5,6) -
  8. 00:42:320 (5,1) - могут быть большие проблемы с этим переходом с 4,0 снапом. Можно все два комбо 00:41:420 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - сдивнуть чуть ближе к 00:41:270 (12) - и изменить немножко кривые
  9. 00:44:270 (1) - аналогично с предыдущим моментом
  10. 00:53:420 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - либо 01:03:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - надо выбрать что-то одно и мапать водном стиле, я бы второй стрим замапал в стиле первого, так как это подходит карте в целом
  11. 01:38:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - разворот на 3 градуса и чутка влево, что бы у комбо были такие цифры
  12. 01:48:920 (1,1) - я думаю процентов 80% игроков это будет фейлить, авто едва выкручивает 1000. Наадо двигать начала на синий тик сразу за нотами
  13. 02:08:120 (1,1) - мб выпилить полностью звук хита + поработать с громкостью как и в 02:12:920 (1) -
  14. 03:15:320 (1) - ну как всегда начлао можно на синий тик перенсти
  15. 04:57:705 (1,2) - на мой взгляд, здесь слишком сильно вредит ритму то, что ты слегка перенес акцент на соло гитару. 04:57:705 (1,2) - 05:01:134 (1,2) - 05:03:062 (2,3) - вроде бы и кажется что все они подходят, но может вызвать проблемы у игрока с ритмом, когда карта внезапно начинает подыгрывать другому инструменту
  16. 06:21:930 (4,5) - 06:22:230 (8,1) - 06:22:530 (4,5) - 06:22:830 (8,1) - почему бы просто по стандарту не поставить туда слайдер?
  17. 06:30:405 (1,1) - нереально тяжелые спиннер, почему бы не оставить это место просто пустым? Ну или хотя бы перенести начало на синие тики
  18. 07:11:205 (1,1) - уже было
  19. 07:46:905 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 07:55:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - аналогичные моменты до этого ты мапал одним большим стримом 03:43:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - 03:52:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -. Либо сделай это фичей: 2 последних стрима во время припева в стиле одного большого, либо стилизуй два стрима из первого припева под общий вид.

По сути это не мод, так что кудосу можешь не ставить. Удачки там ;)
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

fergas wrote:

Просто идеи, идеи которые проскочили при просмотре карты. Все это связанно с моим личным мнением, так что смело игнорируй, если тебе в корне что-то не нарвиться:
Я написал ответ на английском, надеюсь не против. На русском не привык писать. :D

  • Legend
  1. 00:00:620 (1,2,3) - , 00:03:020 (1,2) - , 00:05:120 (1,2,3) - Может быть подчеркнуть характерный звук из песни каким либо соответствующим паттерном? Стак или джамп как на 00:09:920 (1,2,3) - Просто будет чуток опрятнее выглядить I mostly stack notes only when they feel like part of the "same sound", so in this case if there are 3 separate powerful sounds I don't stack them, so the only suggestion left would be to make jumps; not a bad idea but I don't want to make jumps right at the start of the map because I want to give the player a little time to get a "feel" of the song and map
  2. 00:04:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - если будешь стакать 00:05:120 (1,2) - попробуй 00:04:820 (5,6) - переместить таким образом, что все комбо выглядело чутка более сбалансированным в плане передвижения Left as it was
  3. 00:07:070 (4,6) - ctrl+g -> 00:07:220 (5,6) - ctrl+g. Новое перемещение между 00:07:220 (5,6,1) - чуток более приятнее выглядит, так как напоминает движения 00:06:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -. Старый вариант чутка ломает движение 5,6,1. Done. I really liked this idea, feels much better now
  4. 00:10:370 (1) - хз, но я бы продлил его до 00:12:470 - или выпили бы. На данный момент спиннер выглядит как-то не полноценно - звук гиатры вообще никак не изменяется, и вдруг бац! конец спинера - странно смотрится. В любом случае сместить начало на синий тик. Now that you mention it, I agree this spinner isn't perfect. But I can't do much about it because making it longer and ignoring the drums doesn't feel better, and removing the spinner completely makes it feel too empty. I moved the start on the blue tick and extended the spinner by 1/2.
  5. 00:13:670 (7,1) - можно чутка раздвинуть. На всех подобных местах у тебя дистанция колеблетесь в районе 1,7~1,9 старайся сохранять ее для чистота паттерна(это касается всех впереди идущих аналогичных моментах) Done
  6. 00:26:120 (1,2,3) - может оказаться сложным местом. 00:26:120 (1) - на конце слайдера сильный бит лежит, тогда как начало 00:26:420 (2) - почти пустой - такие моменты бывают сбивают с ритма. Здесь это не столь критично, но все же... Попробуй такой вариант, ну или что-нибудь свое.
    The start of (1) is stronger than the ending, that's why a slider is good there. Also the start of (3) is strong, so those 2 sliders must stay. The (2) slider is a filler, it's not on empty notes because it follows the drums, which is the most basic rhythm here; there is no way this part can break the player's rhythm. I did remove the whistle on the start of (2) because there is no guitar note there.
  7. 00:40:820 (9,10,11,12) - мб попробовать чутка подкорректировать его : -7 градусов и сместить чуть влево примерно x:184 y:248. придирка, но переход 00:40:670 (8,9,10) - будет чуть более соответствовать переходу 00:40:070 (4,5,6) - Done but I might change this a little, have to think more about it.
  8. 00:42:320 (5,1) - могут быть большие проблемы с этим переходом с 4,0 снапом. Можно все два комбо 00:41:420 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - сдивнуть чуть ближе к 00:41:270 (12) - и изменить немножко кривые Not exactly the way you suggested, but I fixed the spacing issue here.
  9. 00:44:270 (1) - аналогично с предыдущим моментом You meant to move it to the blue tick right? Done
  10. 00:53:420 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - либо 01:03:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - надо выбрать что-то одно и мапать водном стиле, я бы второй стрим замапал в стиле первого, так как это подходит карте в целом Re-mapped second stream
  11. 01:38:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - разворот на 3 градуса и чутка влево, что бы у комбо были такие цифры
    not exactly sure how you meant, i just slightly rotated and moved the first half of the combo
  12. 01:48:920 (1,1) - я думаю процентов 80% игроков это будет фейлить, авто едва выкручивает 1000. Наадо двигать начала на синий тик сразу за нотами uhh... I think you didn't update the map maybe? i removed those spinners a few days ago lol/color]
  13. 02:08:120 (1,1) - мб выпилить полностью звук хита + поработать с громкостью как и в 02:12:920 (1) -
  14. 03:15:320 (1) - ну как всегда начлао можно на синий тик перенсти done
  15. 04:57:705 (1,2) - на мой взгляд, здесь слишком сильно вредит ритму то, что ты слегка перенес акцент на соло гитару. 04:57:705 (1,2) - 05:01:134 (1,2) - 05:03:062 (2,3) - вроде бы и кажется что все они подходят, но может вызвать проблемы у игрока с ритмом, когда карта внезапно начинает подыгрывать другому инструменту Yeah I was thinking of changing all of that too, fixed.
  16. 06:21:930 (4,5) - 06:22:230 (8,1) - 06:22:530 (4,5) - 06:22:830 (8,1) - почему бы просто по стандарту не поставить туда слайдер? I will leave this place without sliders because it makes it more tense, just like the music.
  17. 06:30:405 (1,1) - нереально тяжелые спиннер, почему бы не оставить это место просто пустым? Ну или хотя бы перенести начало на синие тики Yeah you didn't update the map, there were no more spinners there.
  18. 07:11:205 (1,1) - уже было done
  19. 07:46:905 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 07:55:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - аналогичные моменты до этого ты мапал одним большим стримом 03:43:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - 03:52:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -. Либо сделай это фичей: 2 последних стрима во время припева в стиле одного большого, либо стилизуй два стрима из первого припева под общий вид.
This stream is different. I'm not sure which one you have right now because I think you didn't update the map lol. Right now it's like this

which fits just fine and I changed it to be the same for the previous chorus. But I left some streams the way they were (like 03:43:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - for example, because the drums are different there. I only break the streams into smaller parts when there are stronger, distinctive drum sounds during that stream.

По сути это не мод, так что кудосу можешь не ставить. Удачки там ;)
Надеюсь я понятно объяснил почему не принял некоторые советы.
Спасибо большое за мод, cделал несколько изменений и обновил.
AlexaBM

UndeadBananaz wrote:

Sometimes I like to use Relax and pretend I'm good at Dragonforce.
You're not good. You're AWESOME.

Есть кое-что, что я бы хотела улучшить, но для начала глянь вот это:
03:13:070 (2,3,4,5) - лучше всего их начать на даун и бэкбитах, так ритм будет более читаемым и удобным. Даже перестаивать особо ничего не надо. Удаляешь (5), сдвигаешь (2,3,4) вправо, добавляешь серкл впереди этих слайдеров и сзади. На словах не очень, так что вот скрин:


В общем-то все. Ранкни это!
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

AlexaBM wrote:

UndeadBananaz wrote:

Sometimes I like to use Relax and pretend I'm good at Dragonforce.
You're not good. You're AWESOME.

Есть кое-что, что я бы хотела улучшить, но для начала глянь вот это:
03:13:070 (2,3,4,5) - лучше всего их начать на даун и бэкбитах, так ритм будет более читаемым и удобным. Даже перестаивать особо ничего не надо. Удаляешь (5), сдвигаешь (2,3,4) вправо, добавляешь серкл впереди этих слайдеров и сзади. На словах не очень, так что вот скрин:


В общем-то все. Ранкни это!
Исправил, спасибо!
Mazzerin
SOMEONE APPROVE IT ALREADY
Negri_sk

Mazzerin wrote:

SOMEONE APPROVE IT ALREADY
Mazzerin
chat mod
2014-11-30 01:37 Mazzerin: in the new one id want to get the spacing in the solo a bit more varied
2014-11-30 01:38 UndeadBananaz: i actually wanted to keep it consistent to avoid any confusion, since it's pretty hard on the stream intensity
2014-11-30 01:38 UndeadBananaz: and you know i mostly drew inspiration from the heroes of our time map, which also had pretty much consistent spacing overall
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: its not that consistent in the solo
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: i remember i kept failing it cause of the spacing out part
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: and it really gets spaced in the end
2014-11-30 01:40 Mazzerin: these 2 should be wider than the rest
2014-11-30 01:40 Mazzerin: 06:27:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 01:40 UndeadBananaz: that one shorter stream that gradually gets more spaced?
2014-11-30 01:41 UndeadBananaz: why
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: it sounds cooler
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: than other shreds
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: this is cool
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: 06:48:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: about those other 2 streams that you said should be wider, i can see that working; the reason i didn't change them, is that i like to change the spacing when there are many streams close to each other
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: when you can feel the change in between them]
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: for more impact
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: 06:48:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: what about this?
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: and since there were no other streams aside from those 2, just those 2 more intense streams, i left them like that
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: yeah i guess so
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: i could feel the transition better there, exactly what i just mentioned
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: wait what
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: but yeah i actually could make those 2 more spaced
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: i linked the wrong thing
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: you linked the same part
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: yeah
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: twice
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: i mean "what about this" was the wrong thing
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: i know
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: :D
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: 05:57:705 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: there
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: make those more spaced too?
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 01:47 Mazzerin: i mean not REALLY spaced but just like 0.1-0.2 more i guess
2014-11-30 01:47 UndeadBananaz: i'm actually thinking that maybe it would be better to remove the 1/4's and put sliders instead?
2014-11-30 01:47 UndeadBananaz: kind of like mini-jumps
2014-11-30 01:48 UndeadBananaz: two short sliders and that return one
2014-11-30 01:48 Mazzerin: yeah it can work there
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: 06:09:705 (1,2) -
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: so wait you mentioned how on the old diff i had lots of those weird jumps that didn't start on the sliders
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: this blanket failed
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: so it's a good thing i removed that here right
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: yes
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: oh that wasn't even supposed to be a blanket lol
2014-11-30 01:50 UndeadBananaz: but i'll fix that
2014-11-30 01:51 Mazzerin: this has pretty noticable groups of 4 06:12:105 (1) -
2014-11-30 01:52 Mazzerin: even the drums follow it, could make a few curves or small spaces between them so you dont have to switch around too much
2014-11-30 01:53 UndeadBananaz: yeah, but i'll need to figure out how to make it look good
2014-11-30 01:53 UndeadBananaz: i'll mess around with it a bit
2014-11-30 01:54 UndeadBananaz: btw do you think i should remove the custom claps in the choruses
2014-11-30 01:54 UndeadBananaz: i mean like remove the claps altogether
2014-11-30 01:54 Mazzerin: no they sound cool
2014-11-30 01:54 Mazzerin: why would you want to do that
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: because i put them in there just for the sake of having something fancy but the song doesn't actually have a backbeat
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: mayeb i could keep them only for the first part
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: with "a light for the world will save us tonight" since the drums there go boom boom boom
2014-11-30 01:55 Mazzerin: yea its like td d td d
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: but the parts like at 03:27:020
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: doesn't have the backbeat that i used the claps for
2014-11-30 01:56 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: so i thought maybe i should remove them
2014-11-30 01:56 Mazzerin: i checked it out
2014-11-30 01:57 Mazzerin: they sound fine without it
2014-11-30 01:57 UndeadBananaz: but at the same time i thought it would help the player keep better track of the beat
2014-11-30 01:57 UndeadBananaz: so i guess it kinda works either way
2014-11-30 01:57 Mazzerin: up to you then, i dont mind either of them
2014-11-30 01:58 Mazzerin: 02:23:420 (1,2,3) - why no parallel
2014-11-30 01:58 Mazzerin: was talking about these before :D
2014-11-30 01:59 UndeadBananaz: idk i guess i'm just weird, i didn't want parallels
2014-11-30 01:59 Mazzerin: 02:32:720 (4,1) - could move that #1 to blanket
2014-11-30 02:00 UndeadBananaz: i'll just rotate it slightly, so i don't have to change the shape of the next 2 sliders
2014-11-30 02:00 UndeadBananaz: cause all of those have the exact same shape which was my goal
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: oh
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: just move the position if you need to
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: 03:06:770 (7,8) -
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: rotate this to https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293657
2014-11-30 02:02 Mazzerin: and huh, these are paralleled 03:13:220 (3,4,5) - :D
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: i made the previous ones parallel too
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: lol
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: after you mentioned
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: just now
2014-11-30 02:06 Mazzerin: add red anchor point for cool slider here?
2014-11-30 02:06 Mazzerin: 05:49:005 (9) -
2014-11-30 02:07 UndeadBananaz: red instead of the normal one?
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: wait wait
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293667
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: something like this
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: its red+white
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: 1 of each
2014-11-30 02:09 UndeadBananaz: yeah i think that looks good
2014-11-30 02:10 UndeadBananaz: well so far i applied the suggestions except the first ones for the solo, cause it will take me a little longer to re-arrange that stuff
2014-11-30 02:10 UndeadBananaz: but i do remember all of it
2014-11-30 02:11 Mazzerin: 03:16:220 (1) -
2014-11-30 02:11 Mazzerin: move further away from the center of the spinner
2014-11-30 02:12 UndeadBananaz: i think most people spin clockwise, so moving to the right a bit would be better right
2014-11-30 02:12 UndeadBananaz: so that the motion is kinda more fluid
2014-11-30 02:13 Mazzerin: anywhere further away but yes i spin to the right so move it to the right :D
2014-11-30 02:13 UndeadBananaz: lolol
2014-11-30 02:13 UndeadBananaz: done
2014-11-30 02:14 UndeadBananaz: actually my biggest concern about this map is, should i replace stuff like these 03:19:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with something else, like sliders?
2014-11-30 02:14 UndeadBananaz: i have one part like that in every chorus and i don't know if it works
2014-11-30 02:15 UndeadBananaz: they have like a pattern but i'm thinking it might be unnecessarily hard
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: i think its very subjective
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: but most people would prefer having the circles
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: i remember you changed it to this to circles before and i loved it, because slider only chorus wasnt fun
2014-11-30 02:19 UndeadBananaz: okay then i'll keep them, since nobody actually ever complained about them
2014-11-30 02:20 Mazzerin: 07:58:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2014-11-30 02:20 Mazzerin: the beginning of this stream looks awkward
2014-11-30 02:21 Mazzerin: like #2 goes to the other side then goes back on the other one on #3
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: and these could make something a bit more shapey but its not that needed 07:59:955 (15,16,1,2,3) -
2014-11-30 02:22 UndeadBananaz: i just wanted to have like an 8 shape
2014-11-30 02:22 UndeadBananaz: but yeah i'll move the first circle a bit
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: LOOL
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: i didnt even notice wtf
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: yeah like the symbol for infinite
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: you know
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: :D
2014-11-30 02:27 Mazzerin: 08:06:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2014-11-30 02:28 Mazzerin: separate these into 2x3 +1
2014-11-30 02:28 Mazzerin: and dont make it very hard right at the end
2014-11-30 02:29 UndeadBananaz: aren't they kinda already 2x3+1
2014-11-30 02:29 UndeadBananaz: it's just that the notes overlap in the middle but basically the same
2014-11-30 02:31 Mazzerin: hmm you should somehow find a way to make those 1/3s readable
2014-11-30 02:32 UndeadBananaz: since it suddenly turns to 1/3 and it's the only place like that ,maybe replace them with sliders?
2014-11-30 02:32 Mazzerin: 1/3s at the end of the map as circles only isnt good maybe you should add sliders on 08:06:305 (2,5) -
2014-11-30 02:32 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 02:32 UndeadBananaz: cause they're easier to hit lol
2014-11-30 02:34 Mazzerin: or just start the whole pattern with a slider so it warns you about it
2014-11-30 02:35 UndeadBananaz: or maybe just 3 sliders + circle?
2014-11-30 02:35 UndeadBananaz: cause i agree hitting those 1/3's is akward as fk
2014-11-30 02:35 Mazzerin: but then the groups of 3 arent seperated
2014-11-30 02:36 Mazzerin: i want slider>circle slider>circle circle
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: oh yeah it's two groups of 3
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: wtf
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: i was always looking at it as 3 groups of 2's
2014-11-30 02:37 Mazzerin: lol
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: i'm a little retarded
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: yeah either that or just 2 return sliders then
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: 08:03:705 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: these dont look too good
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: i think this looks better
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293758
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: or something along those lines
2014-11-30 02:43 UndeadBananaz: done
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: uh one more thing
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: what about od 8.5 or something
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: since it wont ever be hrd by anyone
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: hm
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: i personally am not sure what the difference would be
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: between 8 and 8.5
2014-11-30 02:50 Mazzerin: it would be slightly harder and worth more peppeh points
2014-11-30 02:50 Mazzerin: :D
2014-11-30 02:50 UndeadBananaz: more points = good
2014-11-30 02:50 UndeadBananaz: but idk i was actually kinda okay with the difficulty it had
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: but 8.5 will only make it slightly more difficult right
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: so soembody who is able to beat it with 8 should be able to beat it with 8.5?
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: yes theres no doubt in that
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: okay then
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: actually sometimes higher od can make it easier to pass
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: because of note locking
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: low od means you have a lot of time to press a note
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: so you can hit it very late
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: if you miss it and move to the next one the game can think you still want to hit the earlier one but you cant hit the new one and move on to the next one and miss the whole pattern
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: that happens mostly on higher bpm maps with lower ods
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: i see, makes sense
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: so about this 06:12:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: should i just make it more curved
2014-11-30 02:54 UndeadBananaz: not with jumps in between?
2014-11-30 02:54 Mazzerin: you can make either but dont make the jumps bigger than on the next stream with groups of 4
2014-11-30 02:54 Mazzerin: because they arent that intense
2014-11-30 02:55 UndeadBananaz: well i meant if jumps then with sliders
2014-11-30 02:55 UndeadBananaz: cause that places is the only one where i want to have jumps inbetween streams without sliders
2014-11-30 02:55 Mazzerin: oh no id rather make some cool curves
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: i'm not sure if i can make cool ones
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: lol
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: just normal ones
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: but more pronounced than right now
2014-11-30 02:57 UndeadBananaz: because it's hard to make a cool curve when you only have 4 notes to work with
2014-11-30 02:57 UndeadBananaz: because a stream of 16 notes needs to have 4 curves
2014-11-30 02:58 UndeadBananaz: oh wait i remembered something
2014-11-30 02:58 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293805
2014-11-30 02:58 Mazzerin: i got this
2014-11-30 02:58 UndeadBananaz: do you still have my journey home?
2014-11-30 02:59 Mazzerin: yeah of course
2014-11-30 02:59 Mazzerin: why not
2014-11-30 02:59 UndeadBananaz: do you like the curves like here 04:34:272 (8,1) -
2014-11-30 02:59 UndeadBananaz: actually heroes of our time also had something similar
2014-11-30 03:00 UndeadBananaz: so i can turn that one in inside the winter storm
2014-11-30 03:00 UndeadBananaz: into 4 of those curves
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: oh yeah
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: that looks awesome
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: just not that spaced out on the last one because its not that intense on inside the winter storm
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: here, jenny's heroes of our time has a better example
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: 04:30:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: so i can make my stream just like that basically
2014-11-30 03:02 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 03:02 Mazzerin: theres no place to fit a box like that there though
2014-11-30 03:03 UndeadBananaz: i'll probably just have to re-arrange the streams before it and the objects after it a bit
2014-11-30 03:03 UndeadBananaz: and it'll fit
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: about this one
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: 06:27:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: do you think maybe i should start it out more spaced, and then less spaced at the end
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: and maybe same thing with the following one
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: it kinda seems like it would fit
2014-11-30 03:05 UndeadBananaz: or the opposite, start out less spaced and ending more spaced idk
2014-11-30 03:05 Mazzerin: i think jenny used a cool thing there sec
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/416021 DragonForce - The Last Journey Home [Legend]]
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: 04:33:689 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) -
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: these
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: something like that could work too
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: with spacing in and out
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: but you could make it space in
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: instead of in and out
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: i actually like it like that
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: in and out
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: except i don't think it fits in this place where jenny used it lol
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: but it would fit in mine probably
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: i think she wanted to emphasize the drums there
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: along with the guitar
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: or idk lol
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: but probably that
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: i'll probably think more about it tomorrow because i'm getting a little too sleepy to decide on it now
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: but i think i applied all your suggestions, except for the ones for those last streams i mentioned
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: i'll edit them out tomorrow
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: 01:45:470 (4,5) -
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: these 2 abit to the left so it blankets
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293835
2014-11-30 03:10 Mazzerin: this is perfect
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: yeah done
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: i remember when i was the one telling you about blankets and now it turns out i'm the one who lazied out on them lol
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: even though i don't always like blankets
2014-11-30 03:11 Mazzerin: haha:D
2014-11-30 03:11 Mazzerin: i pay so much attention to what people say and i think is good
2014-11-30 03:12 Mazzerin: ok ill post this now
2014-11-30 03:12 UndeadBananaz: yup
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

Mazzerin wrote:

chat mod
2014-11-30 01:37 Mazzerin: in the new one id want to get the spacing in the solo a bit more varied
2014-11-30 01:38 UndeadBananaz: i actually wanted to keep it consistent to avoid any confusion, since it's pretty hard on the stream intensity
2014-11-30 01:38 UndeadBananaz: and you know i mostly drew inspiration from the heroes of our time map, which also had pretty much consistent spacing overall
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: its not that consistent in the solo
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: i remember i kept failing it cause of the spacing out part
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: and it really gets spaced in the end
2014-11-30 01:40 Mazzerin: these 2 should be wider than the rest
2014-11-30 01:40 Mazzerin: 06:27:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 01:40 UndeadBananaz: that one shorter stream that gradually gets more spaced?
2014-11-30 01:41 UndeadBananaz: why
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: it sounds cooler
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: than other shreds
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: this is cool
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: 06:48:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: about those other 2 streams that you said should be wider, i can see that working; the reason i didn't change them, is that i like to change the spacing when there are many streams close to each other
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: when you can feel the change in between them]
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: for more impact
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: 06:48:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: what about this?
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: and since there were no other streams aside from those 2, just those 2 more intense streams, i left them like that
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: yeah i guess so
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: i could feel the transition better there, exactly what i just mentioned
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: wait what
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: but yeah i actually could make those 2 more spaced
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: i linked the wrong thing
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: you linked the same part
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: yeah
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: twice
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: i mean "what about this" was the wrong thing
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: i know
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: :D
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: 05:57:705 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: there
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: make those more spaced too?
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 01:47 Mazzerin: i mean not REALLY spaced but just like 0.1-0.2 more i guess
2014-11-30 01:47 UndeadBananaz: i'm actually thinking that maybe it would be better to remove the 1/4's and put sliders instead?
2014-11-30 01:47 UndeadBananaz: kind of like mini-jumps
2014-11-30 01:48 UndeadBananaz: two short sliders and that return one
2014-11-30 01:48 Mazzerin: yeah it can work there
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: 06:09:705 (1,2) -
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: so wait you mentioned how on the old diff i had lots of those weird jumps that didn't start on the sliders
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: this blanket failed
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: so it's a good thing i removed that here right
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: yes
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: oh that wasn't even supposed to be a blanket lol
2014-11-30 01:50 UndeadBananaz: but i'll fix that
2014-11-30 01:51 Mazzerin: this has pretty noticable groups of 4 06:12:105 (1) -
2014-11-30 01:52 Mazzerin: even the drums follow it, could make a few curves or small spaces between them so you dont have to switch around too much
2014-11-30 01:53 UndeadBananaz: yeah, but i'll need to figure out how to make it look good
2014-11-30 01:53 UndeadBananaz: i'll mess around with it a bit
2014-11-30 01:54 UndeadBananaz: btw do you think i should remove the custom claps in the choruses
2014-11-30 01:54 UndeadBananaz: i mean like remove the claps altogether
2014-11-30 01:54 Mazzerin: no they sound cool
2014-11-30 01:54 Mazzerin: why would you want to do that
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: because i put them in there just for the sake of having something fancy but the song doesn't actually have a backbeat
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: mayeb i could keep them only for the first part
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: with "a light for the world will save us tonight" since the drums there go boom boom boom
2014-11-30 01:55 Mazzerin: yea its like td d td d
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: but the parts like at 03:27:020
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: doesn't have the backbeat that i used the claps for
2014-11-30 01:56 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: so i thought maybe i should remove them
2014-11-30 01:56 Mazzerin: i checked it out
2014-11-30 01:57 Mazzerin: they sound fine without it
2014-11-30 01:57 UndeadBananaz: but at the same time i thought it would help the player keep better track of the beat
2014-11-30 01:57 UndeadBananaz: so i guess it kinda works either way
2014-11-30 01:57 Mazzerin: up to you then, i dont mind either of them
2014-11-30 01:58 Mazzerin: 02:23:420 (1,2,3) - why no parallel
2014-11-30 01:58 Mazzerin: was talking about these before :D
2014-11-30 01:59 UndeadBananaz: idk i guess i'm just weird, i didn't want parallels
2014-11-30 01:59 Mazzerin: 02:32:720 (4,1) - could move that #1 to blanket
2014-11-30 02:00 UndeadBananaz: i'll just rotate it slightly, so i don't have to change the shape of the next 2 sliders
2014-11-30 02:00 UndeadBananaz: cause all of those have the exact same shape which was my goal
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: oh
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: just move the position if you need to
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: 03:06:770 (7,8) -
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: rotate this to https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293657
2014-11-30 02:02 Mazzerin: and huh, these are paralleled 03:13:220 (3,4,5) - :D
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: i made the previous ones parallel too
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: lol
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: after you mentioned
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: just now
2014-11-30 02:06 Mazzerin: add red anchor point for cool slider here?
2014-11-30 02:06 Mazzerin: 05:49:005 (9) -
2014-11-30 02:07 UndeadBananaz: red instead of the normal one?
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: wait wait
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293667
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: something like this
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: its red+white
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: 1 of each
2014-11-30 02:09 UndeadBananaz: yeah i think that looks good
2014-11-30 02:10 UndeadBananaz: well so far i applied the suggestions except the first ones for the solo, cause it will take me a little longer to re-arrange that stuff
2014-11-30 02:10 UndeadBananaz: but i do remember all of it
2014-11-30 02:11 Mazzerin: 03:16:220 (1) -
2014-11-30 02:11 Mazzerin: move further away from the center of the spinner
2014-11-30 02:12 UndeadBananaz: i think most people spin clockwise, so moving to the right a bit would be better right
2014-11-30 02:12 UndeadBananaz: so that the motion is kinda more fluid
2014-11-30 02:13 Mazzerin: anywhere further away but yes i spin to the right so move it to the right :D
2014-11-30 02:13 UndeadBananaz: lolol
2014-11-30 02:13 UndeadBananaz: done
2014-11-30 02:14 UndeadBananaz: actually my biggest concern about this map is, should i replace stuff like these 03:19:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with something else, like sliders?
2014-11-30 02:14 UndeadBananaz: i have one part like that in every chorus and i don't know if it works
2014-11-30 02:15 UndeadBananaz: they have like a pattern but i'm thinking it might be unnecessarily hard
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: i think its very subjective
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: but most people would prefer having the circles
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: i remember you changed it to this to circles before and i loved it, because slider only chorus wasnt fun
2014-11-30 02:19 UndeadBananaz: okay then i'll keep them, since nobody actually ever complained about them
2014-11-30 02:20 Mazzerin: 07:58:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2014-11-30 02:20 Mazzerin: the beginning of this stream looks awkward
2014-11-30 02:21 Mazzerin: like #2 goes to the other side then goes back on the other one on #3
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: and these could make something a bit more shapey but its not that needed 07:59:955 (15,16,1,2,3) -
2014-11-30 02:22 UndeadBananaz: i just wanted to have like an 8 shape
2014-11-30 02:22 UndeadBananaz: but yeah i'll move the first circle a bit
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: LOOL
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: i didnt even notice wtf
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: yeah like the symbol for infinite
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: you know
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: :D
2014-11-30 02:27 Mazzerin: 08:06:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2014-11-30 02:28 Mazzerin: separate these into 2x3 +1
2014-11-30 02:28 Mazzerin: and dont make it very hard right at the end
2014-11-30 02:29 UndeadBananaz: aren't they kinda already 2x3+1
2014-11-30 02:29 UndeadBananaz: it's just that the notes overlap in the middle but basically the same
2014-11-30 02:31 Mazzerin: hmm you should somehow find a way to make those 1/3s readable
2014-11-30 02:32 UndeadBananaz: since it suddenly turns to 1/3 and it's the only place like that ,maybe replace them with sliders?
2014-11-30 02:32 Mazzerin: 1/3s at the end of the map as circles only isnt good maybe you should add sliders on 08:06:305 (2,5) -
2014-11-30 02:32 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 02:32 UndeadBananaz: cause they're easier to hit lol
2014-11-30 02:34 Mazzerin: or just start the whole pattern with a slider so it warns you about it
2014-11-30 02:35 UndeadBananaz: or maybe just 3 sliders + circle?
2014-11-30 02:35 UndeadBananaz: cause i agree hitting those 1/3's is akward as fk
2014-11-30 02:35 Mazzerin: but then the groups of 3 arent seperated
2014-11-30 02:36 Mazzerin: i want slider>circle slider>circle circle
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: oh yeah it's two groups of 3
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: wtf
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: i was always looking at it as 3 groups of 2's
2014-11-30 02:37 Mazzerin: lol
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: i'm a little retarded
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: yeah either that or just 2 return sliders then
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: 08:03:705 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: these dont look too good
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: i think this looks better
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293758
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: or something along those lines
2014-11-30 02:43 UndeadBananaz: done
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: uh one more thing
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: what about od 8.5 or something
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: since it wont ever be hrd by anyone
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: hm
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: i personally am not sure what the difference would be
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: between 8 and 8.5
2014-11-30 02:50 Mazzerin: it would be slightly harder and worth more peppeh points
2014-11-30 02:50 Mazzerin: :D
2014-11-30 02:50 UndeadBananaz: more points = good
2014-11-30 02:50 UndeadBananaz: but idk i was actually kinda okay with the difficulty it had
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: but 8.5 will only make it slightly more difficult right
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: so soembody who is able to beat it with 8 should be able to beat it with 8.5?
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: yes theres no doubt in that
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: okay then
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: actually sometimes higher od can make it easier to pass
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: because of note locking
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: low od means you have a lot of time to press a note
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: so you can hit it very late
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: if you miss it and move to the next one the game can think you still want to hit the earlier one but you cant hit the new one and move on to the next one and miss the whole pattern
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: that happens mostly on higher bpm maps with lower ods
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: i see, makes sense
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: so about this 06:12:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: should i just make it more curved
2014-11-30 02:54 UndeadBananaz: not with jumps in between?
2014-11-30 02:54 Mazzerin: you can make either but dont make the jumps bigger than on the next stream with groups of 4
2014-11-30 02:54 Mazzerin: because they arent that intense
2014-11-30 02:55 UndeadBananaz: well i meant if jumps then with sliders
2014-11-30 02:55 UndeadBananaz: cause that places is the only one where i want to have jumps inbetween streams without sliders
2014-11-30 02:55 Mazzerin: oh no id rather make some cool curves
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: i'm not sure if i can make cool ones
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: lol
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: just normal ones
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: but more pronounced than right now
2014-11-30 02:57 UndeadBananaz: because it's hard to make a cool curve when you only have 4 notes to work with
2014-11-30 02:57 UndeadBananaz: because a stream of 16 notes needs to have 4 curves
2014-11-30 02:58 UndeadBananaz: oh wait i remembered something
2014-11-30 02:58 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293805
2014-11-30 02:58 Mazzerin: i got this
2014-11-30 02:58 UndeadBananaz: do you still have my journey home?
2014-11-30 02:59 Mazzerin: yeah of course
2014-11-30 02:59 Mazzerin: why not
2014-11-30 02:59 UndeadBananaz: do you like the curves like here 04:34:272 (8,1) -
2014-11-30 02:59 UndeadBananaz: actually heroes of our time also had something similar
2014-11-30 03:00 UndeadBananaz: so i can turn that one in inside the winter storm
2014-11-30 03:00 UndeadBananaz: into 4 of those curves
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: oh yeah
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: that looks awesome
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: just not that spaced out on the last one because its not that intense on inside the winter storm
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: here, jenny's heroes of our time has a better example
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: 04:30:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: so i can make my stream just like that basically
2014-11-30 03:02 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 03:02 Mazzerin: theres no place to fit a box like that there though
2014-11-30 03:03 UndeadBananaz: i'll probably just have to re-arrange the streams before it and the objects after it a bit
2014-11-30 03:03 UndeadBananaz: and it'll fit
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: about this one
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: 06:27:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: do you think maybe i should start it out more spaced, and then less spaced at the end
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: and maybe same thing with the following one
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: it kinda seems like it would fit
2014-11-30 03:05 UndeadBananaz: or the opposite, start out less spaced and ending more spaced idk
2014-11-30 03:05 Mazzerin: i think jenny used a cool thing there sec
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/416021 DragonForce - The Last Journey Home [Legend]]
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: 04:33:689 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) -
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: these
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: something like that could work too
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: with spacing in and out
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: but you could make it space in
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: instead of in and out
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: i actually like it like that
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: in and out
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: except i don't think it fits in this place where jenny used it lol
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: but it would fit in mine probably
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: i think she wanted to emphasize the drums there
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: along with the guitar
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: or idk lol
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: but probably that
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: i'll probably think more about it tomorrow because i'm getting a little too sleepy to decide on it now
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: but i think i applied all your suggestions, except for the ones for those last streams i mentioned
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: i'll edit them out tomorrow
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: 01:45:470 (4,5) -
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: these 2 abit to the left so it blankets
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2293835
2014-11-30 03:10 Mazzerin: this is perfect
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: yeah done
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: i remember when i was the one telling you about blankets and now it turns out i'm the one who lazied out on them lol
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: even though i don't always like blankets
2014-11-30 03:11 Mazzerin: haha:D
2014-11-30 03:11 Mazzerin: i pay so much attention to what people say and i think is good
2014-11-30 03:12 Mazzerin: ok ill post this now
2014-11-30 03:12 UndeadBananaz: yup
Thanks once again for the mod.

Updated. Made some cosmetic and gameplay changes, and slightly re-mapped a few streams in the solo.
Soulg
super fun map. rank pls!
Lucyii
Idk, DragonForce, well mapped, i want to see it approved so a random mod is here. ;w;

00:10:295 (1) - End it at 00:11:345 - it sounds better imho--
00:43:670 (8,1,2) - This flow is meeeh, put (2) at x272 y48 or something like this
00:44:195 (1) - Why do u want to end this spinner here? The sound keeps going, it ends like at 00:46:220 - it's better if u end the spinner on the tick blue, here 00:46:145 -
01:48:620 (1,1,1) - Use the same spacing, pu t 01:49:820 (1) - at x296 y152
02:08:120 (1) - Another "bad placed" spinner (?), the "WOHOHOHO" starts like here 02:07:820 (1) - so put the spinner on the blue tick here 02:08:045 -
02:10:370 (1) - Start it at 02:10:295 - and end it at 02:12:545 - ofc "mute the sound" at the end
02:12:920 (1) - There is no sound, i think it's better if you remove it-
02:16:220 (1) - U can replace it with a slider like this http://puu.sh/hXZYb/fef0d40bf4.jpg
03:15:095 (1) - End it on the blue tick before the big white tick
04:06:491 (1) - As always, start on the blue tick and end on the blue tick
04:11:527 (1) - Same^
06:55:305 (1) - Use 2 repeats and remove the 2 beats, idk why but i like it ;w;
07:11:205 (1,1) - Well always the same problems with spinners, I don't think I need to repeat them lol
07:16:005 (1) - Remove it
07:19:305 (1) - Same as above, a slider like this http://puu.sh/hXZYb/fef0d40bf4.jpg
07:57:705 (1,1) - Stack them
08:01:755 (1) - WHYYY çwwwwç, remove it please ;;
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

Kayne wrote:

Idk, DragonForce, well mapped, i want to see it approved so a random mod is here. ;w;

00:10:295 (1) - End it at 00:11:345 - it sounds better imho-- i usually don't like ending the spinners right before the next object for gameplay reasons (kind of like a small queue for them to stop spinning), but i'll make an exception for this one since the sound even keeps going through the next objects
00:43:670 (8,1,2) - This flow is meeeh, put (2) at x272 y48 or something like this done
00:44:195 (1) - Why do u want to end this spinner here? The sound keeps going, it ends like at 00:46:220 - it's better if u end the spinner on the tick blue, here 00:46:145 - like i said above, don't like ending them on the blue ticks, but i will increase the spinner up until the red tick
01:48:620 (1,1,1) - Use the same spacing, pu t 01:49:820 (1) - at x296 y152 done
02:08:120 (1) - Another "bad placed" spinner (?), the "WOHOHOHO" starts like here 02:07:820 (1) - so put the spinner on the blue tick here 02:08:045 - done
02:10:370 (1) - Start it at 02:10:295 - and end it at 02:12:545 - ofc "mute the sound" at the end done, but ended on the red tick instead
02:12:920 (1) - There is no sound, i think it's better if you remove it- i know there's no sound but i think the vocal part is a strong build-up before the chorus so i'm going to leave it
02:16:220 (1) - U can replace it with a slider like this http://puu.sh/hXZYb/fef0d40bf4.jpg i tested it out and liked the idea but didn't like the way it played, so i extended that slider by 1 more beat and removed the soft circle for the vocal note
03:15:095 (1) - End it on the blue tick before the big white tick extended, but ended on the red tick
04:06:491 (1) - As always, start on the blue tick and end on the blue tick started on the blue, but left the ending like that because it complements the guitar note
04:11:527 (1) - Same^ same here, ended on the red tick
06:55:305 (1) - Use 2 repeats and remove the 2 beats, idk why but i like it ;w; lol yeah i liked it too
07:11:205 (1,1) - Well always the same problems with spinners, I don't think I need to repeat them lol same as before
07:16:005 (1) - Remove it same as before
07:19:305 (1) - Same as above, a slider like this http://puu.sh/hXZYb/fef0d40bf4.jpg same as i did with the previous one
07:57:705 (1,1) - Stack them done
08:01:755 (1) - WHYYY çwwwwç, remove it please ;; lol the guitar in the background is pretty noticeable, i'll keep it
Thanks a lot for the mod! Updated with the changes.
riffy
Hey.

[General]
  1. I don't think that stream is a necessary tag. The name of the band makes it clear enough.
  2. According to TC's tool, the following hitsound is unused:
    1. normal-sliderslide.wav
  3. Try to get a 1366x768 BG if possible.
[Legend]
  1. Try AR 9,5 because it looks like 9 is a little too slow.
  2. 00:10:295 (1) - neither head nor end of the spinner floow anything, it feels really random here, if you ask me.
  3. 00:16:070 (7,8) - this lonely 1/4 jump in the middle of a combo feels really random. Try to place a new combo? There's a downbbeat, so it won't feel too weird.
  4. 00:24:620 (1,5) - try to use 1/4 sliders instead of the circles, so there won't be awkward gaps and the rhythm will feel more natural with the song.
  5. 00:36:620 (1) - this thing is jump-worhy. Something like x2,1 or so would match nicely with the song.
  6. 01:03:320 (5,6,7,8,9) - I can't say that this jump-stack combination is readable. Confirm it with a few testplayers or just unstack them.
    Note: 01:32:270 (6,7) - same happens here and a few more times.
  7. 01:04:070 (14,1) - feels exaggerated. The msuic doesn't suggest anything this fast.
  8. 01:29:870 (2,3) - mminor - the way flow works here feels werid to me. A simple Ctrl+G would solve the problem.
    Note: 02:21:620 (3,4) - something about the flow also bugs me here. Let's try something easier?
  9. 01:48:845 - do not keep unused green lines.
  10. 02:05:420 (1) - and one more jump here, for the vocals. Give it a try, it should match nicely.
  11. 03:34:670 (6,7) - sliders with different number of repeats which look similar and are in the same combo. Not a pleasant pattern, I suppose. Can you replace it with something more readable? Breaking (6) into a slider with repeat + 1/4 double or one more slider?
  12. 03:42:320 (6) - again, strong vocals with no jump support. It makes players feel weird when there's a strong stuff but no jump. Like the song asks for jumps but you don't let players to :c
  13. 05:22:755 (5) - might be just me, but I feel like there should be a slider. It sounds and feels better with the instrument.
  14. 05:45:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - length of this combo is an overkill, I supppose. the rest of the combos are much shorter :c
  15. 05:49:005 (9) - NC to tell players about the incoming SV change?
  16. 06:56:055 - I'd rathr have an 1/2 slider placed here. Works better and emphasizes the vocals, whic is cool.
  17. 07:30:555 (2,1) - just for safety purposes move the reverse arrow of this slider somewhere else. So, it remains readable in any case.

    I'd work a little more on flow, but the rest looks quite alright to me.
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Best of luck!
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

-Bakari- wrote:

mod reply
Hey.

[General]
  1. I don't think that stream is a necessary tag. The name of the band makes it clear enough. removed
  2. According to TC's tool, the following hitsound is unused:
    1. normal-sliderslide.wav
    fixed it, it was supposed to be used for the first 10 seconds of the map
  3. Try to get a 1366x768 BG if possible.
done

[Legend]
  1. Try AR 9,5 because it looks like 9 is a little too slow. was thinking the same, applied 9.5 ar
  2. 00:10:295 (1) - neither head nor end of the spinner floow anything, it feels really random here, if you ask me. removed it
  3. 00:16:070 (7,8) - this lonely 1/4 jump in the middle of a combo feels really random. Try to place a new combo? There's a downbbeat, so it won't feel too weird. done
  4. 00:24:620 (1,5) - try to use 1/4 sliders instead of the circles, so there won't be awkward gaps and the rhythm will feel more natural with the song. done
  5. 00:36:620 (1) - this thing is jump-worhy. Something like x2,1 or so would match nicely with the song. done
  6. 01:03:320 (5,6,7,8,9) - I can't say that this jump-stack combination is readable. Confirm it with a few testplayers or just unstack them. unstacked, replaced two of the circles with a 1/4 slider
    Note: 01:32:270 (6,7) - same happens here and a few more times. did the same thing and slightly changed that one in particular
  7. 01:04:070 (14,1) - feels exaggerated. The msuic doesn't suggest anything this fast. reduced the jump distance
  8. 01:29:870 (2,3) - mminor - the way flow works here feels werid to me. A simple Ctrl+G would solve the problem. done, though i thought it was fine either way
    Note: 02:21:620 (3,4) - something about the flow also bugs me here. Let's try something easier? i'll have to disagree with that one, but i did move the 02:21:620 (3) - slightly lower if you were worried about the jump, but i feel like the flow is better this way
  9. 01:48:845 - do not keep unused green lines. fixed
  10. 02:05:420 (1) - and one more jump here, for the vocals. Give it a try, it should match nicely. done, re-mapped that combo slightly
  11. 03:34:670 (6,7) - sliders with different number of repeats which look similar and are in the same combo. Not a pleasant pattern, I suppose. Can you replace it with something more readable? Breaking (6) into a slider with repeat + 1/4 double or one more slider? done
  12. 03:42:320 (6) - again, strong vocals with no jump support. It makes players feel weird when there's a strong stuff but no jump. Like the song asks for jumps but you don't let players to :c i feel like the fact that those are all circles, (which are harder to hit than sliders) and the fact that the pattern is kind of angled, makes that part feel intense without the need of a jump
  13. 05:22:755 (5) - might be just me, but I feel like there should be a slider. It sounds and feels better with the instrument. done
  14. 05:45:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - length of this combo is an overkill, I supppose. the rest of the combos are much shorter :c yeah a modder mentioned this before but i couldn't find a goot spot to break it down without it looking weird, i guess i'll do it on the upbeat in the middle of the stream lol
  15. 05:49:005 (9) - NC to tell players about the incoming SV change? done
  16. 06:56:055 - I'd rathr have an 1/2 slider placed here. Works better and emphasizes the vocals, whic is cool. done
  17. 07:30:555 (2,1) - just for safety purposes move the reverse arrow of this slider somewhere else. So, it remains readable in any case. done

    I'd work a little more on flow, but the rest looks quite alright to me. I fixed a couple more places where the flow bugged me
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Best of luck!
Thanks so much for the mod, really appreciate it! Updated with the changes.

edit: after a little more thinking and testing, reduced the AR to 9.2 from 9.5 (up from the original ar9)
Lucyii
You're offline so I write here, no kudosu needed~
After playing this, I noticed some things:
03:57:971 - Add a break here
03:15:020 (7) - NC
03:16:220 (1,1) - Stack them
another star. random. :c
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

Kayne wrote:

You're offline so I write here, no kudosu needed~
After playing this, I noticed some things:
03:57:971 - Add a break here
03:15:020 (7) - NC
03:16:220 (1,1) - Stack them
another star. random. :c
Done.
[Hiiro Sakaki]
03:59:420 - 04:06:277 - Not sure but I feel this part could be mapped, and the spinner after could too
Topic Starter
UndeadBananaz

Lilith Sakaki wrote:

03:59:420 - 04:06:277 - Not sure but I feel this part could be mapped, and the spinner after could too
It definitely could be mapped, but that doesn't mean it should. There is no drum beat here, and the guitar kinda feels like in the "background", not really having an impact and not deserving to be mapped. It's definitely a break part. Same thing goes for the spinners.
20Below
Good map! Hope you continue!
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