2014-11-30 01:37 Mazzerin: in the new one id want to get the spacing in the solo a bit more varied
2014-11-30 01:38 UndeadBananaz: i actually wanted to keep it consistent to avoid any confusion, since it's pretty hard on the stream intensity
2014-11-30 01:38 UndeadBananaz: and you know i mostly drew inspiration from the heroes of our time map, which also had pretty much consistent spacing overall
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: its not that consistent in the solo
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: i remember i kept failing it cause of the spacing out part
2014-11-30 01:39 Mazzerin: and it really gets spaced in the end
2014-11-30 01:40 Mazzerin: these 2 should be wider than the rest
2014-11-30 01:40 Mazzerin: 06:27:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 01:40 UndeadBananaz: that one shorter stream that gradually gets more spaced?
2014-11-30 01:41 UndeadBananaz: why
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: it sounds cooler
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: than other shreds
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: this is cool
2014-11-30 01:41 Mazzerin: 06:48:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: about those other 2 streams that you said should be wider, i can see that working; the reason i didn't change them, is that i like to change the spacing when there are many streams close to each other
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: when you can feel the change in between them]
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: for more impact
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: 06:48:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: what about this?
2014-11-30 01:44 UndeadBananaz: and since there were no other streams aside from those 2, just those 2 more intense streams, i left them like that
2014-11-30 01:44 Mazzerin: yeah i guess so
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: i could feel the transition better there, exactly what i just mentioned
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: wait what
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: but yeah i actually could make those 2 more spaced
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: i linked the wrong thing
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: you linked the same part
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: yeah
2014-11-30 01:45 UndeadBananaz: twice
2014-11-30 01:45 Mazzerin: i mean "what about this" was the wrong thing
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: i know
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz:
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: 05:57:705 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: there
2014-11-30 01:46 UndeadBananaz: make those more spaced too?
2014-11-30 01:46 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 01:47 Mazzerin: i mean not REALLY spaced but just like 0.1-0.2 more i guess
2014-11-30 01:47 UndeadBananaz: i'm actually thinking that maybe it would be better to remove the 1/4's and put sliders instead?
2014-11-30 01:47 UndeadBananaz: kind of like mini-jumps
2014-11-30 01:48 UndeadBananaz: two short sliders and that return one
2014-11-30 01:48 Mazzerin: yeah it can work there
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: 06:09:705 (1,2) -
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: so wait you mentioned how on the old diff i had lots of those weird jumps that didn't start on the sliders
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: this blanket failed
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: so it's a good thing i removed that here right
2014-11-30 01:49 Mazzerin: yes
2014-11-30 01:49 UndeadBananaz: oh that wasn't even supposed to be a blanket lol
2014-11-30 01:50 UndeadBananaz: but i'll fix that
2014-11-30 01:51 Mazzerin: this has pretty noticable groups of 4 06:12:105 (1) -
2014-11-30 01:52 Mazzerin: even the drums follow it, could make a few curves or small spaces between them so you dont have to switch around too much
2014-11-30 01:53 UndeadBananaz: yeah, but i'll need to figure out how to make it look good
2014-11-30 01:53 UndeadBananaz: i'll mess around with it a bit
2014-11-30 01:54 UndeadBananaz: btw do you think i should remove the custom claps in the choruses
2014-11-30 01:54 UndeadBananaz: i mean like remove the claps altogether
2014-11-30 01:54 Mazzerin: no they sound cool
2014-11-30 01:54 Mazzerin: why would you want to do that
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: because i put them in there just for the sake of having something fancy but the song doesn't actually have a backbeat
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: mayeb i could keep them only for the first part
2014-11-30 01:55 UndeadBananaz: with "a light for the world will save us tonight" since the drums there go boom boom boom
2014-11-30 01:55 Mazzerin: yea its like td d td d
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: but the parts like at 03:27:020
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: doesn't have the backbeat that i used the claps for
2014-11-30 01:56 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 01:56 UndeadBananaz: so i thought maybe i should remove them
2014-11-30 01:56 Mazzerin: i checked it out
2014-11-30 01:57 Mazzerin: they sound fine without it
2014-11-30 01:57 UndeadBananaz: but at the same time i thought it would help the player keep better track of the beat
2014-11-30 01:57 UndeadBananaz: so i guess it kinda works either way
2014-11-30 01:57 Mazzerin: up to you then, i dont mind either of them
2014-11-30 01:58 Mazzerin: 02:23:420 (1,2,3) - why no parallel
2014-11-30 01:58 Mazzerin: was talking about these before
2014-11-30 01:59 UndeadBananaz: idk i guess i'm just weird, i didn't want parallels
2014-11-30 01:59 Mazzerin: 02:32:720 (4,1) - could move that #1 to blanket
2014-11-30 02:00 UndeadBananaz: i'll just rotate it slightly, so i don't have to change the shape of the next 2 sliders
2014-11-30 02:00 UndeadBananaz: cause all of those have the exact same shape which was my goal
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: oh
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: just move the position if you need to
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: 03:06:770 (7,8) -
2014-11-30 02:01 Mazzerin: rotate this to
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22936572014-11-30 02:02 Mazzerin: and huh, these are paralleled 03:13:220 (3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: i made the previous ones parallel too
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: lol
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: after you mentioned
2014-11-30 02:03 UndeadBananaz: just now
2014-11-30 02:06 Mazzerin: add red anchor point for cool slider here?
2014-11-30 02:06 Mazzerin: 05:49:005 (9) -
2014-11-30 02:07 UndeadBananaz: red instead of the normal one?
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: wait wait
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22936672014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: something like this
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: its red+white
2014-11-30 02:08 Mazzerin: 1 of each
2014-11-30 02:09 UndeadBananaz: yeah i think that looks good
2014-11-30 02:10 UndeadBananaz: well so far i applied the suggestions except the first ones for the solo, cause it will take me a little longer to re-arrange that stuff
2014-11-30 02:10 UndeadBananaz: but i do remember all of it
2014-11-30 02:11 Mazzerin: 03:16:220 (1) -
2014-11-30 02:11 Mazzerin: move further away from the center of the spinner
2014-11-30 02:12 UndeadBananaz: i think most people spin clockwise, so moving to the right a bit would be better right
2014-11-30 02:12 UndeadBananaz: so that the motion is kinda more fluid
2014-11-30 02:13 Mazzerin: anywhere further away but yes i spin to the right so move it to the right
2014-11-30 02:13 UndeadBananaz: lolol
2014-11-30 02:13 UndeadBananaz: done
2014-11-30 02:14 UndeadBananaz: actually my biggest concern about this map is, should i replace stuff like these 03:19:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with something else, like sliders?
2014-11-30 02:14 UndeadBananaz: i have one part like that in every chorus and i don't know if it works
2014-11-30 02:15 UndeadBananaz: they have like a pattern but i'm thinking it might be unnecessarily hard
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: i think its very subjective
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: but most people would prefer having the circles
2014-11-30 02:18 Mazzerin: i remember you changed it to this to circles before and i loved it, because slider only chorus wasnt fun
2014-11-30 02:19 UndeadBananaz: okay then i'll keep them, since nobody actually ever complained about them
2014-11-30 02:20 Mazzerin: 07:58:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2014-11-30 02:20 Mazzerin: the beginning of this stream looks awkward
2014-11-30 02:21 Mazzerin: like #2 goes to the other side then goes back on the other one on #3
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: and these could make something a bit more shapey but its not that needed 07:59:955 (15,16,1,2,3) -
2014-11-30 02:22 UndeadBananaz: i just wanted to have like an 8 shape
2014-11-30 02:22 UndeadBananaz: but yeah i'll move the first circle a bit
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: LOOL
2014-11-30 02:22 Mazzerin: i didnt even notice wtf
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: yeah like the symbol for infinite
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz: you know
2014-11-30 02:23 UndeadBananaz:
2014-11-30 02:27 Mazzerin: 08:06:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2014-11-30 02:28 Mazzerin: separate these into 2x3 +1
2014-11-30 02:28 Mazzerin: and dont make it very hard right at the end
2014-11-30 02:29 UndeadBananaz: aren't they kinda already 2x3+1
2014-11-30 02:29 UndeadBananaz: it's just that the notes overlap in the middle but basically the same
2014-11-30 02:31 Mazzerin: hmm you should somehow find a way to make those 1/3s readable
2014-11-30 02:32 UndeadBananaz: since it suddenly turns to 1/3 and it's the only place like that ,maybe replace them with sliders?
2014-11-30 02:32 Mazzerin: 1/3s at the end of the map as circles only isnt good maybe you should add sliders on 08:06:305 (2,5) -
2014-11-30 02:32 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 02:32 UndeadBananaz: cause they're easier to hit lol
2014-11-30 02:34 Mazzerin: or just start the whole pattern with a slider so it warns you about it
2014-11-30 02:35 UndeadBananaz: or maybe just 3 sliders + circle?
2014-11-30 02:35 UndeadBananaz: cause i agree hitting those 1/3's is akward as fk
2014-11-30 02:35 Mazzerin: but then the groups of 3 arent seperated
2014-11-30 02:36 Mazzerin: i want slider>circle slider>circle circle
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: oh yeah it's two groups of 3
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: wtf
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: i was always looking at it as 3 groups of 2's
2014-11-30 02:37 Mazzerin: lol
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: i'm a little retarded
2014-11-30 02:37 UndeadBananaz: yeah either that or just 2 return sliders then
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: 08:03:705 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: these dont look too good
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: i think this looks better
2014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22937582014-11-30 02:40 Mazzerin: or something along those lines
2014-11-30 02:43 UndeadBananaz: done
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: uh one more thing
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: what about od 8.5 or something
2014-11-30 02:48 Mazzerin: since it wont ever be hrd by anyone
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: hm
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: i personally am not sure what the difference would be
2014-11-30 02:49 UndeadBananaz: between 8 and 8.5
2014-11-30 02:50 Mazzerin: it would be slightly harder and worth more peppeh points
2014-11-30 02:50 Mazzerin:
2014-11-30 02:50 UndeadBananaz: more points = good
2014-11-30 02:50 UndeadBananaz: but idk i was actually kinda okay with the difficulty it had
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: but 8.5 will only make it slightly more difficult right
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: so soembody who is able to beat it with 8 should be able to beat it with 8.5?
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: yes theres no doubt in that
2014-11-30 02:51 UndeadBananaz: okay then
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: actually sometimes higher od can make it easier to pass
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: because of note locking
2014-11-30 02:51 Mazzerin: low od means you have a lot of time to press a note
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: so you can hit it very late
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: if you miss it and move to the next one the game can think you still want to hit the earlier one but you cant hit the new one and move on to the next one and miss the whole pattern
2014-11-30 02:52 Mazzerin: that happens mostly on higher bpm maps with lower ods
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: i see, makes sense
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: so about this 06:12:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 02:53 UndeadBananaz: should i just make it more curved
2014-11-30 02:54 UndeadBananaz: not with jumps in between?
2014-11-30 02:54 Mazzerin: you can make either but dont make the jumps bigger than on the next stream with groups of 4
2014-11-30 02:54 Mazzerin: because they arent that intense
2014-11-30 02:55 UndeadBananaz: well i meant if jumps then with sliders
2014-11-30 02:55 UndeadBananaz: cause that places is the only one where i want to have jumps inbetween streams without sliders
2014-11-30 02:55 Mazzerin: oh no id rather make some cool curves
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: i'm not sure if i can make cool ones
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: lol
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: just normal ones
2014-11-30 02:56 UndeadBananaz: but more pronounced than right now
2014-11-30 02:57 UndeadBananaz: because it's hard to make a cool curve when you only have 4 notes to work with
2014-11-30 02:57 UndeadBananaz: because a stream of 16 notes needs to have 4 curves
2014-11-30 02:58 UndeadBananaz: oh wait i remembered something
2014-11-30 02:58 Mazzerin:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22938052014-11-30 02:58 Mazzerin: i got this
2014-11-30 02:58 UndeadBananaz: do you still have my journey home?
2014-11-30 02:59 Mazzerin: yeah of course
2014-11-30 02:59 Mazzerin: why not
2014-11-30 02:59 UndeadBananaz: do you like the curves like here 04:34:272 (8,1) -
2014-11-30 02:59 UndeadBananaz: actually heroes of our time also had something similar
2014-11-30 03:00 UndeadBananaz: so i can turn that one in inside the winter storm
2014-11-30 03:00 UndeadBananaz: into 4 of those curves
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: oh yeah
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: that looks awesome
2014-11-30 03:01 Mazzerin: just not that spaced out on the last one because its not that intense on inside the winter storm
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: here, jenny's heroes of our time has a better example
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: 04:30:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
2014-11-30 03:02 UndeadBananaz: so i can make my stream just like that basically
2014-11-30 03:02 Mazzerin: yeah
2014-11-30 03:02 Mazzerin: theres no place to fit a box like that there though
2014-11-30 03:03 UndeadBananaz: i'll probably just have to re-arrange the streams before it and the objects after it a bit
2014-11-30 03:03 UndeadBananaz: and it'll fit
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: about this one
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: 06:27:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: do you think maybe i should start it out more spaced, and then less spaced at the end
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: and maybe same thing with the following one
2014-11-30 03:04 UndeadBananaz: it kinda seems like it would fit
2014-11-30 03:05 UndeadBananaz: or the opposite, start out less spaced and ending more spaced idk
2014-11-30 03:05 Mazzerin: i think jenny used a cool thing there sec
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/416021 DragonForce - The Last Journey Home [Legend]]
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: 04:33:689 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) -
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: these
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: something like that could work too
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: with spacing in and out
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: but you could make it space in
2014-11-30 03:06 Mazzerin: instead of in and out
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: i actually like it like that
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: in and out
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: except i don't think it fits in this place where jenny used it lol
2014-11-30 03:07 UndeadBananaz: but it would fit in mine probably
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: i think she wanted to emphasize the drums there
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: along with the guitar
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: or idk lol
2014-11-30 03:08 Mazzerin: but probably that
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: i'll probably think more about it tomorrow because i'm getting a little too sleepy to decide on it now
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: but i think i applied all your suggestions, except for the ones for those last streams i mentioned
2014-11-30 03:08 UndeadBananaz: i'll edit them out tomorrow
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: 01:45:470 (4,5) -
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin: these 2 abit to the left so it blankets
2014-11-30 03:09 Mazzerin:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22938352014-11-30 03:10 Mazzerin: this is perfect
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: yeah done
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: i remember when i was the one telling you about blankets and now it turns out i'm the one who lazied out on them lol
2014-11-30 03:10 UndeadBananaz: even though i don't always like blankets
2014-11-30 03:11 Mazzerin: haha:D
2014-11-30 03:11 Mazzerin: i pay so much attention to what people say and i think is good
2014-11-30 03:12 Mazzerin: ok ill post this now
2014-11-30 03:12 UndeadBananaz: yup