Okay, i did not know where to put this thread because even though the reason i want to learn to read and write in Japanese to translate possible Light Novels/Manga in the future that i will buy, that does not justify me to actually put it in the "Otaku" section and i really want to learn Japanese. It's that one "goal" that everyone has. Please don't think i am "only" doing this for that hobby that i (as you might think) will give up in the near future. I have always been fascinated by Japanese culture ever since i was a child. I am so fascinated to the point that i really don't wan't to go to Japan because i am scared i will be "branded" as a foreigner or "Gaijin" among the citizens of Akihabara of Tokyo because i look different. That probably won't stop me from going to Japan though. Every time i read Manga, watch Anime, and learn more about Japanese culture and traditions such as Tea Ceremonies and Golden Week, it makes me want to go there more and more. Please, if you know how i can learn Japanese in the most accurate way (meaning, i don't care if it takes me years to learn something, i just wan't to be as fluent as a foreigner can be), tell me and thank you for reading this.

roseeta stone

I was just thinking the same thing OP. I was also thinking of those Rosetta stone commercials too ha. But, I believe Rosetta stone lacks the knowledge of the written language, or so I am told. It is mostly for conversational learning since Japanese writing is another problem in its own (not like Spanish, Italian, etc that we can more easily relate the writing to our own) and would take a lot more effort outside the limits of Rosetta stone. I wonder if there are any programs to teach the written language?

I might take the Japanese classes in the Japanese American Society of New Jersey, but it's like a thousand dollars a semester. That is my last resort because even though i heard good things from it, it's too pricey >.<! Rosetta stone, well i tried the tutorial and didn't like it. It seemed too robotic for me, BUT i might resort to that if it teaches me how to "Read and Write"

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I recommend starting with learning kana (hiragana and katakana), then take your time going through genki or tae kim's grammar guide for grammar AND AT THE SAME TIME practice kanji to build up vocabulary. You can try kanjidamage or Anki decks for kanji. Once you gain enough proficiency, read some manga or something. I recommend Yotsuba for beginners.

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99% of USA-american people fail this

A. definitely A.

C: Four American presidents that had been petrified after a constant exposure to Justin Bieber

I don't know how much this will help, but if you're intrested in independent japanese study than check this thing I wrote a while ago for my friend – it's just copy pasted, but he was basically in the same situation.

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Soo, you want to learn Japanese huh? It's quite a difficult language and at times annoying, but with hard work it's also very rewarding! Judging from your avatar (clannad ftw ><) you watch anime, so it's really cool to start to understand more and more of what they're saying~

Currently I am taking classes @ a local Japanese school, but for the first year (in total I've been studying for ~3 years) it was self-study.
Here are some learning tools I suggest:

First things first, ya gotta learn the Japanese alphabet. There's 3: Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji, but for now focus on the first two.
You can learn this by just looking at any Hiragana/Katakana chart (google it), and memorizing the letter with the sound that it makes.
This is kinda hard to do effectively for some, so alternatively, you can buy the "Let's learn Hiragana" by Mitamura which has a lot of worksheets to help you memorize them. It's $10 each, but it was pretty helpful for me.
http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/1568363893
http://www.amazon.com/Lets-Learn-Kataka ... pd_sim_b_1

Genki vol 1:
After you learn hiragana & katakana, ya gotta start learning the actual language. Genki is a really understandable and basic Japanese textbook that will teach you the foundations: grammar, basic vocab words, and basic sentence structures so you can speak it. It teaches really well and I would recommend it. You can get this on amazon for ~$50 or you can also download a pdf online for free if you know your way around the internet *ahem thepiratebay*
*I know this is kinda expensive, so msg me back if help w/ this

http://kanjidamage.com/ :
Now after you learn basic grammar from a textbook like Genki, it's probably time to learn KANJI, the third alphabet found in Japanese which is basically a pain in the ass at first. However, kanjidamage.com is a free website that helps you learn kanji and makes it less painful by using mnemonics and jokes that help you remember the definition of Kanji.

http://ankisrs.net/ :
Anki is a free flashcard program that can help you memorize words and kanji in an organized and effective way. I use this in conjunction w/ genki and kanjidamage.

Some tips:
- watching anime helps, but be sure to also pay attention to the words they're saying!
- I use physical flash cards in addition to anki to memorize words/kanji in japanese, and imo it's a great way to learn the vocab stuff.
- have a japanese dictionary handy; personally I use
http://jisho.org/
- For the 3 alphabets, practice /writing/ them as well as reading them.
- slow and steady wins the race (at least for me). For the way I learn, it's better to learn a few new words or perhaps a chapter in the textbook a day than to do 50 words a day, and then take a week break, and then learn another 50. If you do it this way, you could forget a lot of the things you learned.

Good luck! Learning languages by yourself for free is totally doable (most of it is memorization anyways), but requires quite a bit of self discipline. If you have any questions message me back and I'd be glad to help~ ^^

NotEvenDoomMusic wrote:

Omg they copied Naruto /badjoke

NotEvenDoomMusic wrote:

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mount rushmore...


... da fuks a barbershop quartet?

When did you first notice you were socially retarded?

mathexpert wrote:

- For the 3 alphabets, practice /writing/ them as well as reading them.

One of the by far most hilarious YouTubers out there is Chris Broad, of AbroadInJapan. Apart from a hilarious series on Japanese culture he has some videos about memorising kanji, which is a hurdle a lot of japanese learners have problems with.

Shellghost wrote:

When did you first notice you were socially retarded?

well im not very savvy at really bad jokes so i guess it kinda went over my head a little
that has nothing to do with social retardation very rude that stung deep sir please don't do that again thank you god bless you

learn with nama-sensei

you bitch

You could go to the library and find a guide that teaches you basic Japanese. Another way is to look for a website where you sign and and get a tutor to teach you. :3

NotEvenDoomMusic wrote:

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99% of USA-american people fail this

D. The four stooges XD

Mr Color wrote:

learn with nama-sensei

you bitch

Shit, I was about to fucking post that you dumb bitch.

Yeah, I learned hiragana/katakana and some grammar/vocabulary thanks to him.

Try TextFugu. I used it for a while before saving up for a tutor.

And a heads up, you'll be branded as a gaijin regardless of how well you speak Japanese.

ixsq wrote:

Try TextFugu. I used it for a while before saving up for a tutor.

And a heads up, you'll be branded as a gaijin regardless of how well you speak Japanese.

Nobody will know if he's Asian and legally changes his name to something Japanese.

I found Realkana particularly useful in memorising the kana.

Grammar and vocabulary should be learned together. Tae Kim's guide's probably one of the best resources especially if you're learning on your own.

The next challenge is sticking with it. It's not really hard to do but distractions can be hard to shake off.

Mr Color wrote:

learn with nama-sensei

you bitch

5/5 would learn again

ixsq wrote:

Try TextFugu. I used it for a while before saving up for a tutor.

And a heads up, you'll be branded as a gaijin regardless of how well you speak Japanese.

I think I will give this ago I couldn't watch this without laughing for some reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqzt3T4R38c#t=48

Asuna- wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

learn with nama-sensei

you bitch

5/5 would learn again

I wanted to post this ;__;

Can you like, stop necrobumping? Thanks.

can you stop blaming people for making good actions? thank you

Trash Boat wrote:

can you stop blaming people for making good actions? thank you

Guess what, necroposting is not a good action.

Locked. The OP has seen our posts.