have you ever wondered why this happens for last few months

no

This is a heavily subjective topic. If you want to further facilitate conversation and a meaningful discussion, please explain why 19/20 ranked beatmaps "suck". Also, it might be a good idea to list beatmaps that other people can analyze and dissect with you/in this thread instead of just being generic.

Bait posts like these get nothing done and I have a hard time taking them serious.

Diaracore ruined osu!



im kidding kind of

i dont

kinda too bored to take a look at the section anyways

fact wrote:

have you ever wondered why this happens for last few months

if you were long enough in the mapping ''community'' you will soon find out your answer,but if i was a player rn i wouldnt try to do that and just keep playing the ''good maps'' that you could find from previous years.

In what ways do you think it is sucks?

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Diaracore Dariacore ruined osu!
im kidding kind of

it improved osu actually

nah it's gotta be because the mapping style's getting generic and because the only thing that I just hear are anime songs and japanese songs...

I really wish that there are more songs from other artists that aren't like anime or something, because who knows, maybe that would change the mapping style a bit based on the song choice. =o

I have seen way too few Kevin Macleod songs and they are free to use I think.

(I watch too much BFDI content lol that's why .w.)

I'm a osu!boomer but i think there are still some decent maps. Also this is subjective

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

nah it's gotta be because the mapping style's getting generic and because the only thing that I just hear are anime songs and japanese songs...

I really wish that there are more songs from other artists that aren't like anime or something, because who knows, maybe that would change the mapping style a bit based on the song choice. =o

I have seen way too few Kevin Macleod songs and they are free to use I think.

(I watch too much BFDI content lol that's why .w.)

HI MIKEY!!!!!

because somebody gives commnunity too much freedom and doesnt control what garbage it now produces (and nobody really does)
because team that was responsible for checking quality of mapsets gave greenlight to ranking Malevich's black squares-like bullshit
because tens of reasons exists that dont allow new good mappers to appear or make it extremely difficult. They just either give up or join the "trend"
because a team that ranks maps is also responsible for dqing/vetoing them
because people that nominate(d) absolute lowest level garbage are not given perma ban to join bng/gmt/whatever
..
and many more. Didnt check those 19 out of 20 maps but this is not happening for few months, it started before you even made your account

Dafiely wrote:

because somebody gives commnunity too much freedom and doesnt control what garbage it now produces (and nobody really does)
because team that was responsible for checking quality of mapsets gave greenlight to ranking Malevich's black squares-like bullshit
because tens of reasons exists that dont allow new good mappers to appear or make it extremely difficult. They just either give up or join the "trend"
because a team that ranks maps is also responsible for dqing/vetoing them
because people that nominate(d) absolute lowest level garbage are not given perma ban to join bng/gmt/whatever
..
and many more. Didnt check those 19 out of 20 maps but this is not happening for few months, it started before you even made your account

ehhhhhhh any era has always been like that, fuckton of very mediocre maps every 1 notable one.

only this time just with even laxer requirements for RC and more saturation.

the whole thing kinda sound like u wanna rank very hard stuff but can't, which, while i do sense ur sentiment, i cant warrant my skill of such level to be sufficient enough for ranking even with my several years of mapping, much less a new mapper with even less experience to tell

it has always been this way people just forgot about the bad old maps

new mapping meta sucks that’s why i try to avoid playing maps after 2021. I can’t say recent ranked maps are bad in quality but they are bad to me because they dont particularly look appraling to play

Dafiely wrote:

because somebody gives commnunity too much freedom and doesnt control what garbage it now produces (and nobody really does)
because team that was responsible for checking quality of mapsets gave greenlight to ranking Malevich's black squares-like bullshit
because tens of reasons exists that dont allow new good mappers to appear or make it extremely difficult. They just either give up or join the "trend"
because a team that ranks maps is also responsible for dqing/vetoing them
because people that nominate(d) absolute lowest level garbage are not given perma ban to join bng/gmt/whatever
..
and many more. Didnt check those 19 out of 20 maps but this is not happening for few months, it started before you even made your account

i totally agree on your sentiment 100%,i did a small test with my small cercle of friends (around 20/30 active players) and found out that NOBODY likes the new ranked maps,yes NOBODY (even some of them quit the game because of them!!)so how come these types of maps are pushed regulary when they have no audience?thats a story for another day...

Randomness64 wrote:

i totally agree on your sentiment 100%,i did a small test with my small cercle of friends (around 20/30 active players) and found out that NOBODY likes the new ranked maps,yes NOBODY (even some of them quit the game because of them!!)so how come these types of maps are pushed regulary when they have no audience?thats a story for another day...

just because none of ur circle friends like it doesn't mean they don't have audience. 20/30 is way too small of a sample when counting on online playerbase alone has 400 times that amount.

doesn't mean a lot of them aren't mediocre, but just letting u know.

I'd say a reason why mapping and the ranked section has been flopping lately is because most new maps don't have much history/originality.
By that I mean that for exemple this year, the most memorable maps that have been ranked are dawn of the dragonstar for being another lionheart, hawatari (which everyone forgot about) for being a 10* tv size, life sux and leah kate vs mimi as the end of the Lon speed saga and slider for the drama and that's basicaly it.
Meanwhile back 2 years ago, 2021 had its bunch of big sets such as save, sotarks' kira kira, plasma gun, Lon's stay and more big farm/retryspamable sets but also ryuusei aika popping off with usseewa and lost umbrella and other memorable classics such as flamewall, dj mag, sputnik, the list goes on.
Basically I think the ranked section lacks personality and personalities, while for 2021 you could say that aika and sotarks were two major names for that year, for 2023, Lon seems to be the only one to stand out (at least in the ranked section).
For me the community desperately needs those big names known not only to the mapping community but also by the players, personalities like sotarks used to be, and monstrata before him so that there's an interest for new ranked maps. For example, when sotarks remaps image material it makes heated discussion and brings people (for the better or for the worse) around the ranked section. This year Airman got remapped (yes it did I had to search long for it) it has 120k plays. Yes sotarks' image material has only 100k but it's a single 8* diff while airman has a full set and is of a simpler nature. You could say that the sakura no uta incident also created interest around the ranked section but it actually had a lot more negative repercussions than positives so that doesn't count.
Now mapping has become sort of stale, we're ranking maps that are kinda ok that no one will play anyway, and that has probably been something since forever but there's no more spark, those one sets with big names that you see qualified and wait your week to play. I used to get hyped about some maps, at least 3 per week about a year/year and a half ago but now I wake up only to check qualified section and see 2 new mania 3 diff sets and refreshing in hopes of new maps popping only to see that that's actually all what happened this night.
There's now this void as Ed has put it in the mapping community where there's no representative, no one to look up to if you're outside the mapping sphere except for maybe Lon but he doesn't seem to want to take the bigger role and that's alright but a way I think the mapping community could come back is to get that one bloke that invests themselves a lot, with the mapping community but also the general public, generates content and discussion and gets new people to map until it creates a sort of mapping group like wave crew was and that generates other big names like armin, reform, mir even sytho to some extent and then we might have saved mapping again.

TLDR : Quit the yapping, start acting, become the face of mapping and bring back the big playcounts. The recent ranked section has been bland with not much big names as it used to have when sotarks aika or monstrata were still around. As a result players don't care about new ranked maps, only mappers sort of do which sucks.

Just read this this morning and I've thought about it a lot for some reason so I thought I had to yap about it a bit here

Zelzatter Zero wrote:

Randomness64 wrote:

i totally agree on your sentiment 100%,i did a small test with my small cercle of friends (around 20/30 active players) and found out that NOBODY likes the new ranked maps,yes NOBODY (even some of them quit the game because of them!!)so how come these types of maps are pushed regulary when they have no audience?thats a story for another day...

just because none of ur circle friends like it doesn't mean they don't have audience. 20/30 is way too small of a sample when counting on online playerbase alone has 400 times that amount.

doesn't mean a lot of them aren't mediocre, but just letting u know.

i havent studied statistics in a while but i think that 20-30 should be fine as a sample for a population as long as the members of the sample are representative of the population itself. its obviously not going to be perfectly accurate but it should be fine for assessing the point if it is reasonable to assume that a non-insignificant proportion of the population possesses a certain attribute (in this case, disliking recent ranked maps)

Zelzatter Zero wrote:

Randomness64 wrote:

i totally agree on your sentiment 100%,i did a small test with my small cercle of friends (around 20/30 active players) and found out that NOBODY likes the new ranked maps,yes NOBODY (even some of them quit the game because of them!!)so how come these types of maps are pushed regulary when they have no audience?thats a story for another day...

just because none of ur circle friends like it doesn't mean they don't have audience. 20/30 is way too small of a sample when counting on online playerbase alone has 400 times that amount.

doesn't mean a lot of them aren't mediocre, but just letting u know.

i do agree on your take,however we can try testing that on literally any channel even lobby and the result will always be the same even in #osu i see alot of peopple saying that they hate the new ranked maps on a daily basis sometimes,i hate to admit it but the system sucks,you know it i know it,even the players know it now,its nothin of a surprise sadly.