Ray - lull ~Soshite Bokura wa~ (TV Size) [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-03-30T12:33:40+00:00

i think we must prevent this map graveyarded? update this map again, Stac

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-03-30T12:39:33+00:00

Fort wrote:
i think we must prevent this map graveyarded? update this map again, Stac

This map has been updated a few days ago. So, it won't be going to the graveyard unless there is no sign of progress for about 1 month and above.

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

Topic Starter

SUBSTAC9 2014-03-31T07:08:10+00:00

QHideaki13 wrote:
Fort wrote:
i think we must prevent this map graveyarded? update this map again, Stac
This map has been updated a few days ago. So, it won't be going to the graveyard unless there is no sign of progress for about 1 month and above.

yeah there will be continue and I try to more modder as possible ;_;

Kuzino

Former osu!catch Champion: 2014

1,207 posts

Joined August 2009

Kuzino 2014-04-07T14:53:40+00:00

Hi

from my PM request.

nice hitsonund

[Q-H's Cup]
00:11:385 (6,7) - how about change like this?

00:22:212 (1,2,3) - Would be nicer if you space these out equally.
01:08:678 (4,5,6) - ^

[Salad]
00:05:069 (3) - how about like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490932
00:48:603 (4,5,6,7) - Would be nicer if you space these out equally.
01:02:813 (4) - I think this is more better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490945

[Fort's Platter]
00:19:730 (6) - move this note slightly to the lift.
00:38:903 (11) - ^
00:24:016 (5,6,1) - decrease distance little.
00:28:302 (5,6,7) - how about like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490908
00:57:625 (4,5,6) - I think this is more better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490917

[Rain]
awesome diff
00:09:129 (1) - move this slider x:360
00:12:963 (9,1,2) - Would be nicer if you space these out equally.
00:18:151 (6,1,2) - ^
00:26:272 (3) - move this slider x:376

Good Luck!

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-04-07T15:40:40+00:00

Kuzino wrote:
[Q-H's Cup]
00:11:385 (6,7) - how about change like this? Changed a bit by reducing the length at 00:12:287 (7) - and adding 00:12:738 (8) -
00:22:212 (1,2,3) - Would be nicer if you space these out equally. I prefer to stay with the pattern for some reason. No changes.
01:08:678 (4,5,6) - ^ But as for this, I have reduced the spacing at 01:09:580 (6) - to make it smooth

Thanks for the mod, Kuzino~

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Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-04-11T09:39:29+00:00

update

Fort platter

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Kuzino mod will soon checked

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

Topic Starter

SUBSTAC9 2014-04-15T03:26:25+00:00

Kuzino wrote:
[Salad]
00:05:069 (3) - how about like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490932 done
00:48:603 (4,5,6,7) - Would be nicer if you space these out equally. umm change for other ways
01:02:813 (4) - I think this is more better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490945 ok

[Fort's Platter]
00:19:730 (6) - move this note slightly to the lift.
00:38:903 (11) - ^
00:24:016 (5,6,1) - decrease distance little.
00:28:302 (5,6,7) - how about like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490908
00:57:625 (4,5,6) - I think this is more better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1490917
^mostly fixed by me

[Rain]
awesome diff thank you
00:09:129 (1) - move this slider x:360 done
00:12:963 (9,1,2) - Would be nicer if you space these out equally. am not sure in this topic sorry
00:18:151 (6,1,2) - ^ done
00:26:272 (3) - move this slider x:376 ok

Good Luck!

Thank you very much kuzino

updated

Serena-

454 posts

Joined December 2012

Serena- 2014-08-09T05:17:14+00:00

oookay this map graveyarded but m4m request

[General]
imo, the difficulty spread is not that good due to the Cup and Salad diff.
Ai Mod : Tags conflict with Fort's Platter

[Salad]
This diff has a lower star diff than the cup diff.
every part can be catched w/o using dashes, so this is technically a cup. try to make some jumps in the kiai part.

just some suggestions to make this diff a bit harder.

01:02:813 (4) - ctrl+h?
01:05:520 (3,4,5,6) - increase the distance plz to make the player use dashes.
01:08:227 (2) - ctrl+G and x:64
01:09:129 (3) - ctrl+g and x:448
01:16:347 (3) - place this horizontally?

[Q-H's Cup]
this diff's difficulty is with the salad(not just the star difficulty, but when you play as well)

to make to difficulty spread a bit better, try to make this diff a bit easier
00:00:557 (1,2,3,4) - reduce distance
00:03:715 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:12:287 (7,8) - ^
00:31:685 (5) - x:80
01:03:715 (2,3,4) - reduce distance
01:05:520 (5,1) - ^

[Fort's Platter]
overall there are few HDes and a bit edge-jumps imo, but i think it will be fine.
btw nice hitsounds

luv it
00:13:415 (2,1) - two hyperdashes in a row might be hard for a platter
01:26:948 (7) - how about moving this to the right to make a HD

[Rain]
00:35:069 (3,4,5) - x:16 and make a HD hard to catch atm
00:39:580 (2) - ctrl+g and x:448?
00:45:106 (3) - x:64
00:45:219 (4) - x:32
01:05:294 (3) - x:80 to make a HD
01:11:610 (3,4,5) - x:440 ^

Nice song, always loved Ray's voice

hope you resurrect this and rank this someday xD good luck!

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-08-12T14:45:09+00:00

All fixed!

Including the pattern, spacing and hitsounds (reconsidered all of the previous mod, looks good and useful).
Dramatically reduced the Star Difficulty. Hope this is simple enough for a Cup difficulty.

( SUBSTAC9: Remove "wantuole" tags from Fort's Platter )

Let's revive this!

Update

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rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2014-08-16T04:16:19+00:00

=w= ม๊อดให้พี่

Q-H's Cup

00:01:460 (3) - x : 336
00:01:911 (4) - x : 176
00:02:362 (5) - x : 336
00:05:069 (3) - x : 256
00:10:482 (4) - x : 128
00:11:385 (2) - x : 384
00:12:738 (4) - x : 128
00:23:114 (3) - x : 256
00:23:565 (4) - x : 368
00:32:588 (7) - x : 288
01:24:693 (2) - x : 320
01:24:918 (3) - x : 384
01:25:821 (5) - x : 96
01:26:723 (7) - x : 416

Salad

00:08:227 (1) - x : 256
00:08:452 (2) - x : 352
00:09:129 (3) - x : 448
00:10:031 (1) - x : 160
00:10:257 (2) - x : 64
00:16:347 (2) - x : 256
00:16:798 (3) - ctrl+g
00:44:542 (3,5) - x : 368
00:45:670 (6) - x : 144
00:46:347 (8) - x : 244
00:47:475 (1) - x : 144
00:49:956 (9) - x : 224
00:50:633 (10) - x : 144
01:19:956 (4) - ctrl+g
01:21:760 (1) - x : 256
01:26:272 (2) - x : 416
01:27:174 (4) - x : 96

Fort's Platter

00:02:813 (6) - x : 96
00:03:264 (1) - x : 256
00:03:715 (2) - x : 384
00:10:031 (6) - x : 208
00:10:257 (7) - x : 320
00:20:182 (2) - x : 384
00:20:408 (3) - x : 288
00:20:633 (4) - x : 192
00:21:083 (2) - x : 128
00:21:309 (3) - x : 224
00:21:535 (4) - x : 320
00:22:212 (6) - x : 288
00:31:911 (1,2,3) - x : 144
00:45:332 (2) - x : 368
00:45:445 (3) - x : 400
00:59:204 (7) - x : 352
01:11:385 (1) - x : 256
01:14:542 (4) - x : 288
01:26:948 (7) - x : 400

Rain

00:08:114 (2) - x : 96
00:08:227 (3) - x : 48
00:40:708 (3) - x : 144
00:43:415 (8) - x : 160 ???
00:45:106 (3) - x : 64
00:45:219 (4) - x : 16

Good luck

ขอให้โชคดี

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-08-16T05:33:08+00:00

rew0825

00:01:460 (3) - x : 336 Moved to x:320, the jump is too sudden
00:01:911 (4) - x : 176 Moved to x:160
00:02:362 (5) - x : 336 Moved to x:320
00:05:069 (3) - x : 256 Moved to x:336, I prefer to give some space at this part
00:10:482 (4) - x : 128 Fixed
00:11:385 (2) - x : 384 No change, sorry
00:12:738 (4) - x : 128 No change, sorry
00:23:114 (3) - x : 256 Good idea, fixed~
00:23:565 (4) - x : 368 Good idea, fixed~
00:32:588 (7) - x : 288 Looks good, fixed~
01:24:693 (2) - x : 320 Fixed
01:24:918 (3) - x : 384 Fixed
01:25:821 (5) - x : 96 Fixed
01:26:723 (7) - x : 416 Fixed

Thanks for the mod, rew0825~

Update

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Ciyus Miapah

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Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-08-16T07:32:04+00:00

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some update

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

Topic Starter

SUBSTAC9 2014-08-17T06:46:14+00:00

now all updated
thank you Serena- and rewkung
^^

Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2014-08-26T11:17:56+00:00

Mod as requested.

[General]

Background size is unrankable. You have 1366x758. It has to be 1024x768 or 1366x768.
There is no video in Salad and Platter diff. Highly advice you to keep it consistent with the other two diffs that actually have a video.
There is no spread between these difficulties. Cup, Salad and Platter have CS3, this has to be fixed. What I suggest is the following for all diffculties:
- Before I mention my suggestion I want to link to a Thread that gives you some good guideline for CTB difficulty spread: t/151744&start=0. Also you need to talk with the GD mappers before you change any metadata on Guest Difficulties.
- Since Cup, Salad and Platter have the same CS we need to change that a bit. Change the CS of Salad to 3,5 and the CS of the Platter to 4. With that we have a typical 3 - 3,5 - 4 - spread here. You can keep CS4 in Rain because it is the highest CS that should be used in a Rain imo.
- HP7 for Rain to keep a 4-5-6-7 HP Spread between all difficulties.
- AR and OD 6,5 for Salad because it lays in the middle of AR5 in the Cup and AR8 in the Salad.

[Q-H's Cup]

00:06:873 (1) - Short spinners like this shouldn't exist in a Cup, instead map this as a long slider, please.
00:36:648 (1,2) - Lower distance between those a bit to keep a distance snap of something between 1,28 and 1,40 as you did on all the previous sections.Try x:248 on grid level 3. Afterwards select 00:38:001 (3,4,5,6) - and move it completely to x: 104. Then the distance snap should be okay again.
01:06:873 - Add a note here, the beat simply requires it. Keep a consistent distance snap in mind.
01:16:798 - Such long breaks shouldn't even exist in a Kiai. Add notes here to keep it out. Following suggestion:
01:19:505 - and 01:24:016 - Add a note here, too. Same reason as above.
01:27:174 (1) - Check where the spinner ended in all the other difficulties. 01:29:204 - feels a bit late and awkward here. Instead let it stop at 01:28:979 - or 01:28:753 -

[Salad]

This Salad feels very easy apart of the Kiai. It needs a few more Dashes to especially blast it off from the Cup. In this mod I will mainly focus on improving that.
00:06:873 (5) - This slider can be shortened to add a note at 00:07:776 - and create a small dashy effect here that emphasizes the sound at 00:06:873 (5) - . Suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968320 (Don't forget the finish hitsound at 00:07:776 - )
00:10:933 (3,4) - The distance should be similar here as at 00:09:129 (3,4) - , CTRL + G 00:11:159 (4) - and move it a bit to the right but do not exaggerate! (x: 416 more or less works fine)
00:40:708 (1) - No spinner here, let's map this part with a few tiny dashes:
1) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968339
2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968342
3) Hitsounding. Add whistles on the following parts to underline the rhythm here: 00:41:385 - , 00:41:836 - , 00:42:061 - , 00:42:738 - .
00:45:670 (6) - NC maybe. Quite a long combo we have here.
00:48:603 (4,5,6,7,8) - This can be more interesting. Try this out to create more movement here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968353
00:56:497 (1) - To make this more different from Cup let the spinner end at 00:58:076 - or 00:58:302 - and map the parts afterwards. This timeline could work:
Last spinner should start at 01:27:174 - already, makes more sense with the music. Your spinner feels a bit late with the vocals right now.

[Fort's Platter]

Platter feels a bit easy on some parts, so I would prefer to see a few more Dashes and HDashes here, I will suggest them in my mod below.
00:07:663 (4,1) - Since you put a Finish hitsound at (1) I want you to emphasize this with a HDash here. So please add a HDash between (4) and (1)
00:14:317 (1) - Move this more to the right to emphasize the finish hitsound again, does not necessarily need to be a HDash but at least a higher dash.
00:28:979 (1,2,3,4) - I like the idea behind that but I suggest increasing the difficulty a bit here by adding a small HDash, fits well with the beats here imo. Try this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968385
00:42:512 (5,6) - Higher distance would be suitable on these unique "bell" voices here (not sure if it's bells, piano or whatever). Suggesting to move (6) to x: 320
00:43:640 (3,4,5) - Move (4) to x: 80 to create a triangle shape here. Then select 00:43:640 (3,4,5) - and CTRL + H those to create a more tricky movement. It should be looking like this afterwards: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968400
00:50:971 (4,1) - Another potential part for a HDash because of the strong finish hitsound.
00:53:565 (8) - According to the music this slider should end at 00:54:242 - already, and a note should be added at 00:54:467 - . The vocal clearly ends at 00:54:242 - .
00:55:144 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This whole section can be improved, too many stacked fruits here. Try this:
1) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968420
2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968422
3) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968424
=> This is a very extreme pattern that will create 2 HDashes which are quite hard to reach, I personally like to play it. But if you think it doesn't fit your style because the Platter is quite easy, you can use that pattern anyway with vehemently decreased distances.
00:58:302 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I would like to see HDashes here similar as you did at 00:12:963 (1,2,1,2) - to emphasize the finish hitsounds again.
01:05:069 (5,6) - HDash if possible, and another HDash to the different direction here again: 01:05:294 (6,7) -
01:06:309 (8,1) - and 01:06:760 (2,3) - ^
01:14:430 (3,4) - HDash
01:22:663 (1) - I don't find a spinner very fitting here, instead I suggest you to map it as in the Rain. Here the timeline how it's done there:

If you are unsure just open the Rain and see how it is done there.

[Rain]

All in all decent Rain, could be a bit harder on a few parts. Not gonna point out much here.
00:13:415 (2,3) - Little HDash won't hurt here, try x: 128 for 00:13:640 (3) -
00:28:979 (7,1) - Same here, move 00:29:430 (1) - to x: 464, 00:29:655 (2) - to x: 256 and 00:29:881 (3) - to x: 48
Move 00:50:858 (6) - to x: 496 and 00:51:084 (7) - to x: 160 (you can vary here a bit if you think it's too much) to create a HDash between 00:50:858 (6,7) - that emphasizes the music.
01:07:099 (7,8) - HDash?
01:12:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I want a bit more challenge here because of this unique music. Do this to create 2 quite tricky HDashes (this is the Kiai afterall and should have a bit more challenging patterns): https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968486

Looks quite fine but I wanna see more improvement in the Platter. Try to find more modders for this mapset.
Good luck!

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-08-26T13:01:38+00:00

Sey

00:06:873 (1) - Short spinners like this shouldn't exist in a Cup, instead map this as a long slider, please. ( Changed )
00:36:648 (1,2) - Lower distance between those a bit to keep a distance snap of something between 1,28 and 1,40 as you did on all the previous sections.Try x:248 on grid level 3. Afterwards select 00:38:001 (3,4,5,6) - and move it completely to x: 104. Then the distance snap should be okay again.
( Fixed, but I slightly reduced the distance between 00:37:550 (2,3) - since it is a bit hard, in my opinion )
01:06:873 - Add a note here, the beat simply requires it. Keep a consistent distance snap in mind.
( Added, changed the slider shape on the previous note )
01:16:798 - Such long breaks shouldn't even exist in a Kiai. Add notes here to keep it out. Following suggestion: ( Applied )
01:19:505 - and 01:24:016 - Add a note here, too. Same reason as above. ( Added )
01:27:174 (1) - Check where the spinner ended in all the other difficulties. 01:29:204 - feels a bit late and awkward here. Instead let it stop at 01:28:979 - or 01:28:753 - ( Hmm... 01:28:979 - looks good, fixed~ )

Thanks for the mod, Sey~

Update

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Ciyus Miapah

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Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-08-27T14:08:16+00:00

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mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-08-28T15:18:11+00:00

i agree with sey about CS 4 for Platter diff. now if you still keep it to 3, it will be 3~3~3~4 (Cup~Salad~Platter~Rain). you have been given the solution from sey by changing the Salad's CS to be 3,5 and change Platter's CS to be 4. it'll look much better and also the spread diff will be more clearly too. btw i think it's not problem to keep Salad with CS 3, so it will be 3~3~4~4 (Cup~Salad~Platter~Rain), but it depends again from you, subs

i am going to put this map into my list. try to find 2~3 mods (especially for Platter diff, it really needs more improvement). and also don't forget about the spread diff between them (beware for the combos on Platter and also Platter contains many streams like 00:24:805 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ; 00:28:979 - ~ 00:30:332 - ; 00:58:640 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - and many more. those feel meaningless to use those streams because the instruments/vocals which are calm and relax)

ohyah, please remove the sliderslide.wav, please. the sliderslide.waves aren't useful for the CtB diffs/maps actually so please remove them later

Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-08-29T12:19:49+00:00

mingmichael wrote:
i agree with sey about CS 4 for Platter diff. now if you still keep it to 3, it will be 3~3~3~4 (Cup~Salad~Platter~Rain). you have been given the solution from sey by changing the Salad's CS to be 3,5 and change Platter's CS to be 4. it'll look much better and also the spread diff will be more clearly too. btw i think it's not problem to keep Salad with CS 3, so it will be 3~3~4~4 (Cup~Salad~Platter~Rain), but it depends again from you, subs

i am going to put this map into my list. try to find 2~3 mods (especially for Platter diff, it really needs more improvement). and also don't forget about the spread diff between them (beware for the combos on Platter and also Platter contains many streams like 00:24:805 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ; 00:28:979 - ~ 00:30:332 - ; 00:58:640 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - and many more. those feel meaningless to use those streams because the instruments/vocals which are calm and relax)

ohyah, please remove the sliderslide.wav, please. the sliderslide.waves aren't useful for the CtB diffs/maps actually so please remove them later

some update, i think its okay use stream in ctb cause that stream didnt hard i think

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Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2014-08-29T21:36:46+00:00

I absolutely agree with mingmichael about the stream issue we have.
The fruit density of your Platter is higher than the Rain's due to the way too often streams you put here. Most of them feel random, plain to play and make no sense with the music at all. Many of those will probably need some remapping suggestions.
I can see that mapset ranked someday but not with the recent spread we have here.

I will give this a recheck on stream improvements if you guys are really willed to improve this. Otherwise I do not really think I can be helpful to this mapset. Let me know about it.

Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-08-30T16:04:16+00:00

okay im working on it, why people didnt like easy streams? lol
(update in here soon, im so busy right now)

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

Topic Starter

SUBSTAC9 2014-08-30T16:58:12+00:00

trun to me and sorry for my lately

Sey wrote:
Mod as requested.

[General]
Background size is unrankable. You have 1366x758. It has to be 1024x768 or 1366x768. re-size to 1366x768
There is no video in Salad and Platter diff. Highly advice you to keep it consistent with the other two diffs that actually have a video. fixed
There is no spread between these difficulties. Cup, Salad and Platter have CS3, this has to be fixed. What I suggest is the following for all diffculties:
- Before I mention my suggestion I want to link to a Thread that gives you some good guideline for CTB difficulty spread: t/151744&start=0. Also you need to talk with the GD mappers before you change any metadata on Guest Difficulties.
- Since Cup, Salad and Platter have the same CS we need to change that a bit. Change the CS of Salad to 3,5 and the CS of the Platter to 4. With that we have a typical 3 - 3,5 - 4 - spread here. You can keep CS4 in Rain because it is the highest CS that should be used in a Rain imo.
- HP7 for Rain to keep a 4-5-6-7 HP Spread between all difficulties.
- AR and OD 6,5 for Salad because it lays in the middle of AR5 in the Cup and AR8 in the Salad.
considered from Salad and Rain diff
[Salad]
This Salad feels very easy apart of the Kiai. It needs a few more Dashes to especially blast it off from the Cup. In this mod I will mainly focus on improving that. improved
00:06:873 (5) - This slider can be shortened to add a note at 00:07:776 - and create a small dashy effect here that emphasizes the sound at 00:06:873 (5) - . Suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968320 (Don't forget the finish hitsound at 00:07:776 - )
00:10:933 (3,4) - The distance should be similar here as at 00:09:129 (3,4) - , CTRL + G 00:11:159 (4) - and move it a bit to the right but do not exaggerate! (x: 416 more or less works fine) make a more dashy as like your suggestion
00:40:708 (1) - No spinner here, let's map this part with a few tiny dashes:
1) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968339
2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968342
3) Hitsounding. Add whistles on the following parts to underline the rhythm here: 00:41:385 - , 00:41:836 - , 00:42:061 - , 00:42:738 - .
^ done
00:45:670 (6) - NC maybe. Quite a long combo we have here. not change in hitsound sorry
00:48:603 (4,5,6,7,8) - This can be more interesting. Try this out to create more movement here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968353 improved
00:56:497 (1) - To make this more different from Cup let the spinner end at 00:58:076 - or 00:58:302 - and map the parts afterwards. This timeline could work:
make for a new other way
Last spinner should start at 01:27:174 - already, makes more sense with the music. Your spinner feels a bit late with the vocals right now. deleted and make other way by your suggestion ok fix to new pattern
[Rain]
All in all decent Rain, could be a bit harder on a few parts. Not gonna point out much here.
00:13:415 (2,3) - Little HDash won't hurt here, try x: 128 for 00:13:640 (3) -
00:28:979 (7,1) - Same here, move 00:29:430 (1) - to x: 464, 00:29:655 (2) - to x: 256 and 00:29:881 (3) - to x: 48
Move 00:50:858 (6) - to x: 496 and 00:51:084 (7) - to x: 160 (you can vary here a bit if you think it's too much) to create a HDash between 00:50:858 (6,7) - that emphasizes the music.
01:07:099 (7,8) - HDash? many more HDash from previous slider so I should drop this jump
01:12:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I want a bit more challenge here because of this unique music. Do this to create 2 quite tricky HDashes (this is the Kiai afterall and should have a bit more challenging patterns): https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1968486
any suggestion has improved
Looks quite fine but I wanna see more improvement in the Platter. Try to find more modders for this mapset.
Good luck!

mingmichael wrote:
ohyah, please remove the sliderslide.wav, please. the sliderslide.waves aren't useful for the CtB diffs/maps actually so please remove them later<<deleted

Thank you very much to you Sey and ming for improve a quality mapset

updated <3

mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-08-31T04:51:38+00:00

SUBSTAC9 wrote:
Thank you very much to you Sey and ming for improve a quality mapset

platter hasn't improved anything (the GDer just removed some streams actually)
@fort : try to simplify and also remove those meaningless streams that you have, try to find if by yourself. i just mentioned some of them before but it doesn't mean that just those streams are meaningless. you still have a similar stream like them but i didn't mention. so then you can fix it by yourself, but in fact you didn't ._.

Fort wrote:
why people didnt like easy streams? lol

remember, even the streams are easy to be catched, stream is still stream. please use it wisely and do not overmapped (same like standard diff too about streams). and also actually i am confused with your many 3/4 slidersss. why don't you just make a simple one with 1/2 sliders? hm
i think i will discus with Sey or with another CtB BATs about this platter

@fort : oke gua ngomong pake indo aja tentang hal yang lebih lanjut ini. gua ngerti daridiff lu dan juga mapping sytle elu, tapi lu sendiri ga bisa maksa dan tetep perhatahanin style2 lu sendiri dan tetep bersikeras perjuangin (contohnya kayak macem stream elu dan juga ada beberapa jump juga sih. nanti gua mention jump2nya di mod gua nanti). kasian SUBSTAC9 yang sebagai pemilik mapnya. ofc dia juga binggung kalo spread diff Platter~Rain ga gitu mulus. lu sebagai GDer di map orang juga harus berhati2 dalam ngemap diff lu, apakah spread diffnya uda oke diantara diff elu dengan diff diatas dan diff dibawah elu.

Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-08-31T05:16:49+00:00

mingmichael wrote:
@fort : oke gua ngomong pake indo aja tentang hal yang lebih lanjut ini. gua ngerti daridiff lu dan juga mapping sytle elu, tapi lu sendiri ga bisa maksa dan tetep perhatahanin style2 lu sendiri dan tetep bersikeras perjuangin (contohnya kayak macem stream elu dan juga ada beberapa jump juga sih. nanti gua mention jump2nya di mod gua nanti). kasian SUBSTAC9 yang sebagai pemilik mapnya. ofc dia juga binggung kalo spread diff Platter~Rain ga gitu mulus. lu sebagai GDer di map orang juga harus berhati2 dalam ngemap diff lu, apakah spread diffnya uda oke diantara diff elu dengan diff diatas dan diff dibawah elu.

weiss sabar gan ini juga mau di fix xD

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TitleUnicode:lull〜そして僕らは〜 (TV Size)
Artist:Ray
ArtistUnicode:Ray
Creator:SUBSTAC9
Version:Fort's Platter
Source:Nagi no Asukara
Tags:凪のあすから opening sakishima hikari mukaido manaka hiradaira chisaki isaki kaname kihara tsumugu shiodome miuna hisanuma sayu P.A works QHideaki13 Fort
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@mingmichael: coba cek update ini sudah seimbang gk diff spread nya? soalnya ane lagi bimbang nih.

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

Topic Starter

SUBSTAC9 2014-09-01T02:31:35+00:00

updated in latest version :3

DragonSlayer96

418 posts

Joined July 2012

DragonSlayer96 2015-04-12T13:08:03+00:00

poke mod from QHideaki13

general

May you please have this step up easier on the max combo? Cup has a max of 180, Salad 222, Platter 377 (mainly due to overmapping) and Rain 406

Cup

not much I can say in this difficulty. The only problems I can find is that the hitsounds on the repeat for 01:01:009 (3) - and 01:14:994 (2) - sound like they shouldn't be there because they are on the 1/2 ticks and not on the 1/1 ticks like all of your other hitsounds.

Platter

My biggest thing is that you are using hitsounds to try to make it sound like a stream/jump can go in places where you have them when - for most of them - I feel the streams are just overmapping and some of your hitsound jumps are in it just for the difficulty of it, not to actually accent the song. I will point out some of the overmapped stuff you have in this difficulty but not all

00:07:099 (4) - I can't hear anything underneath. you are using a hitsound to make it sound like it's "suppose" to go there
00:11:723 (5) - ^
00:14:655 (2) - ^
00:22:099 (6) - this note is just blank underneath with no hitsounds .-.
00:23:903 (4) - ^
00:29:542 (2) - ^
00:41:497 (2) - I can't hear anything underneath. you are using a hitsound to make it sound like it's "suppose" to go there
00:42:061 (1) - ^

and so forth and so forth. Please go through your difficulty again and try to remove your overmapped notes. How it is, I don't think this will ever be ranked with how overmapped the Platter is

Rain

there are some overmapping here too, but - until Platter is brought down some with its overmapping - you really can't do much here because that will bring the max combo below what is on Platter

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2015-04-12T13:24:48+00:00

Ah, didn't noticed that haha. Sounds better, all fixed!

Thanks for the mod, DragonSlayer96~

Update

osu file format v14

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AudioFilename: Nagi Nagi ver2.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 59317
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:lull ~Soshite Bokura wa~ (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:lull〜そして僕らは〜 (TV Size)
Artist:Ray
ArtistUnicode:Ray
Creator:SUBSTAC9
Version:Q-H's Cup
Source:Nagi no Asukara
Tags:凪のあすから opening sakishima hikari mukaido manaka hiradaira chisaki isaki kaname kihara tsumugu shiodome miuna hisanuma sayu P.A works QHideaki13 Fort
BeatmapID:368195
BeatmapSetID:148462

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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