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Topic Starter
rEdo
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 22 kwietnia 2014 at 17:56:59

Artist: Foreground Eclipse
Title: I Bet You'll Forget That Even If You Noticed That
Source: Touhou
Tags: Imperishable Night th08 IN Extend Ash Hourai Victim Fujiwara no Mokou Teto Merami Comiket 81 c81 Each And Every Word Leaves Me Here Alone keeeeeeko Natsu
BPM: 195
Filesize: 8394kb
Play Time: 03:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. keeeeeeko's Hard (4,98 stars, 587 notes)
  2. Lunatic (4,87 stars, 964 notes)
  3. Natsu's Easy (2,96 stars, 236 notes)
  4. Normal (4,27 stars, 328 notes)
Download: Foreground Eclipse - I Bet You'll Forget That Even If You Noticed That
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Merami is love, and so is whole Foreground Eclipse <3

If you're a fan of Foreground Eclipse, don't forget to check out other beatmaps from our Foreground Eclipse Discography project!

Here's how the old reverse deathstream from Lunatic looked like before the change, in case you're curious: p/3015431.
Guest difficulties are made by keeeeeeko and Natsu. Thank you very much, guys!
MyuTakanashi
Great music and map ~
Frostmourne
<3
keeeeeeko
Hi~!
Sorry for the delay :(
my diff: http://puu.sh/7P6sm.zip
hope you like it ><
Ajo Joestar
I did a testplay on Lunatic,
Maybe hitsounds are too loud. >.< Not sure if it's only me.
03:06:403 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and the overlap here is kinda hard to read.
Good diff tho, it's fun.

About keeeeeeko's Hard:
01:57:787 (4) - This might look better
01:59:172 (1) - ^
02:19:018 (1,2,3,4) - Curved maybe?
02:40:556 (2,3,4,5) - ^
keeeeeeko

AJeyB wrote:

About keeeeeeko's Hard:
01:57:787 (4) - This might look better I want to keep current state.
01:59:172 (1) - ^ ok
02:19:018 (1,2,3,4) - Curved maybe? no change
02:40:556 (2,3,4,5) - ^ no change
thanks!
http://puu.sh/80tNB
Topic Starter
rEdo

AJeyB wrote:

I did a testplay on Lunatic,
Maybe hitsounds are too loud. >.< Not sure if it's only me.
03:06:403 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and the overlap here is kinda hard to read.
Good diff tho, it's fun.
Hitsound volume is fine.

I know that the overlap might be hard to read, but I wanna leave it. I believe it plays great like that. Thanks for playing!

Kudos because keeeeeeko applied one of your suggestions. lol enjoy your free 2 kd Will update once I'm back from school.
Knotts
Hi, here for the M4M
heh, I stole your skin because the circles and sliders look cool.

[General]
  1. Audio preview times are conflicting
  2. Combo Color 3 might be a little too dark to play with a fully dimmed bg but meh, that's just me.
[Lunatic]
  1. 00:50:710 (1,2) - If you're not following the vocals here I think a 1/2 slider would be better.
  2. 01:39:633 (3) - Add a finish since you have one at 01:38:403 (3).
  3. 02:33:326 (1,3) - I think switching these on the timeline would make better flow
  4. 02:42:403 (1) - An idea of mine would be to replace this with two circles to distinguish it from the vocals.
  5. 03:04:556 - This stream is... beautiful. If only I could play streams.
  6. 03:46:710 (2) - move to (409,237) for a better blanket.
  7. 03:51:326 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Pretty bland ending to the song. Maybe end it like the hard with a bombard of circles in a crazy, but at the same time, well thought pattern.
[keeeeeeko's Hard]
  1. 00:29:787 (2,3) - Curve the slider a little more like this? You might have to adjust the blanket and spacing of the circles after it if you do this but it shouldn't be that hard.
  2. 00:35:941 (2) - Ctrl + G could possibly make a more interesting flow.
  3. 02:23:172 (2,3) - This blanket could use a little tweaking.
  4. 02:32:403 (5,1) - Flow from (5) to (1) feels really awkward because my hand instinctively wants to keep going down but then this sliders makes me go back up :3
  5. 02:46:403 (2,3) - Sounds a little strange to me that the slider doesn't start on the strong vocal, maybe switch them on the timeline and re-position stuff.
  6. 02:57:633 (2) - This slider might look a bit better if you moved the end point to somewhere around (361, 260)
  7. 03:36:403 (6,1) - Feels weird to play here too. Ctrl + J on (1) could fix this.

    Cool difficulty, I'm slowly becoming a fan of your's keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeko.
[Normal]
  1. 02:49:787 - Delete this green line. Volume's already 80% so there's no need for it unless I'm missing something here.
[Natsu's Easy]
  1. 01:00:249 (3,1) - I think it could be blanketed better like this. I don't think it breaks the flow to (2) either.
  2. 02:49:787 - Same unused green line as Normal unless I'm stupid.
Ehh sorry that I couldn't find much for the Normal and Easy. I have no idea what to look for in those difficulties. If you don't think it was enough you can skip those difficulties on my mapset.

Happy modding and mapping!
keeeeeeko

Knotts wrote:

Hi, here for the M4M
[keeeeeeko's Hard]
  1. 00:29:787 (2,3) - Curve the slider a little more like this? You might have to adjust the blanket and spacing of the circles after it if you do this but it shouldn't be that hard. fixed
  2. 00:35:941 (2) - Ctrl + G could possibly make a more interesting flow.  fixed
  3. 02:23:172 (2,3) - This blanket could use a little tweaking.  fixed
  4. 02:32:403 (5,1) - Flow from (5) to (1) feels really awkward because my hand instinctively wants to keep going down but then this sliders makes me go back up :3  fixed
  5. 02:46:403 (2,3) - Sounds a little strange to me that the slider doesn't start on the strong vocal, maybe switch them on the timeline and re-position stuff. fixed
  6. 02:57:633 (2) - This slider might look a bit better if you moved the end point to somewhere around (361, 260) I use the same shape as 02:57:172 (1) -
  7. 03:36:403 (6,1) - Feels weird to play here too. Ctrl + J on (1) could fix this.  fixed

    Cool difficulty, I'm slowly becoming a fan of your's keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeko. Wow thanks owo!
Ehh sorry that I couldn't find much for the Normal and Easy. I have no idea what to look for in those difficulties. If you don't think it was enough you can skip those difficulties on my mapset.

Happy modding and mapping!
thanks for modding!
update: http://puu.sh/89vhq.zip
Sorry I made a mistake :o
update: http://puu.sh/89vIB
Topic Starter
rEdo

Knotts wrote:

Hi, here for the M4M
heh, I stole your skin because the circles and sliders look cool. thank fartownik

[General]
  1. Audio preview times are conflicting Fixed.
  2. Combo Color 3 might be a little too dark to play with a fully dimmed bg but meh, that's just me. I know, I'm currently looking for a complete new set of combo colours.
[Lunatic]
  1. 00:50:710 (1,2) - If you're not following the vocals here I think a 1/2 slider would be better. But I DO follow the vocals here. :P
  2. 01:39:633 (3) - Add a finish since you have one at 01:38:403 (3). I'm not using it at 01:29:787 (6)­ as well, and it's on purpose. so it's fine.
  3. 02:33:326 (1,3) - I think switching these on the timeline would make better flow. Nah, it's fine how it currently is.
  4. 02:42:403 (1) - An idea of mine would be to replace this with two circles to distinguish it from the vocals. Good catch.
  5. 03:04:556 - This stream is... beautiful. If only I could play streams. ^_^
  6. 03:46:710 (2) - move to (409,237) for a better blanket. Fixed.
  7. 03:51:326 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Pretty bland ending to the song. Maybe end it like the hard with a bombard of circles in a crazy, but at the same time, well thought pattern. Them jumps are fun. I like jumps, especially in this part of the song.
[Normal]
  1. 02:49:787 - Delete this green line. Volume's already 80% so there's no need for it unless I'm missing something here. Yeah, good catch.
[Natsu's Easy]
  1. 01:00:249 (3,1) - I think it could be blanketed better like this. I don't think it breaks the flow to (2) either. I doubt he'll change it, since 01:02:403 (2)­ is blanketing 00:59:941 (2)­, and the current placement is the best you could possibly achieve with this slider.
  2. 02:49:787 - Same unused green line as Normal unless I'm stupid. Yup.
Ehh sorry that I couldn't find much for the Normal and Easy. I have no idea what to look for in those difficulties. If you don't think it was enough you can skip those difficulties on my mapset. Willing to mod your map completely. Sorry for the delay, I just got busy with some stuff. Will get to your map this week surely, though.

Happy modding and mapping! Thanks a bunch. :)
Updated keeeeeeko's difficulty.
Hinsvar
Hello!

Okay, let's do this...

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>General
  1. Not a big deal TBH, but isn't 884 KB for the BG too big...?
>Natsu's Easy
  1. 00:55:326 (2,3) - Maybe make the gap between the two sliders bigger (for example, move (3) to (104,260)? It makes the 00:54:095 (1,2,3) patten look neater.
  2. 01:00:249 (3,1) - I think you can make a better blanket. Won't give coordinate values since it'll get... complicated.
  3. 01:07:941 (4,1) - ^
  4. 01:12:556 (1,3) - Swap NC? The current combo pattern looks kinda messed up, honestly. This can help.
  5. 01:15:018 (1,3) - ^
  6. 01:17:479 (1,3) - ^ (Eh idk why, but it seems you really messed the pattern. 01:08:864 (1,2,3,4) and 01:12:556 (1,2,3) were a little too short, and while you started the NC-per-2-stanzas pattern at 01:15:018 (1) again, it's pretty inaccurate with the song now, since this one is supposed to be the beginning of the second stanza in a combo. And meanwhile, 01:16:249 (3) is supposed to have an NC. If you find my explanation hard to understand... Do you find it odd that 01:18:710 (3) is the beginning of a new section in the song but it's not NC'd? Now try to swap NC at 01:18:710 (3,1)... And also, look at Normal's combo pattern in this section of the song. In short: Applies to similar cases.)
  7. 01:16:249 (3,2,3) - Same as the first suggestion in this diff. They look too close compared to the usual spacing you use.
  8. 02:00:864 (2,3) - ^
  9. 02:20:864 (2,3) - ^ (For this one, you can try moving (3) to (80,60).)
  10. 03:19:326 - 03:21:479 - Don't you think this rhythm is far easier to follow?
>Normal
  1. I think CS4 is a little too difficult for a Normal, especially at this speed and considering that the rhythm is kinda complex. Should be still (somewhat) okay, though.
  2. 01:50:095 (6,1) - Spacing inconsistency? Even if it's intentional, it's still hard to read...
  3. 01:58:710 (2,3) - ^
  4. 02:01:633 (4,1) - ^
  5. 02:21:633 (3) - Move this to 02:21:479 to follow the vocal there? It's a lot easier to read and play this way.
  6. 02:47:941 (2,3,4,5,1) - ...I don't have a problem with this one, though. Just saying.
  7. 02:58:403 (3,1) - Eh, spacing inconsistency again? I think this one is unintentional.
  8. 03:00:864 (2,3) - ^
  9. 03:52:710 - Remove the inherited timing point here since it's useless. (I totally forgot there was an inherited timing point with the kiai toggled lol)
>keeeeeeko's Hard
  1. 00:31:172 (2) - Move to (364,212) to make a blanket pattern at 00:30:710 (1,2)? Looks neater, I think.
  2. 00:50:710 (3,5) - Also try to make a better blanket here?
  3. 01:28:095 (4,5) - Remove (4) and make (5) begin at 01:28:095? Fits with the song because of the instrument at 01:28:172.
  4. 01:46:710 (4) - Move to (292,244)? 01:45:787 (1,2,3,4) looks better like that.
  5. 03:52:556 (1) - Stack below 03:51:941 (5)'s head instead to make a jump? It'd be nice to emphasize the cymbal at the end of the song.
>Lunatic
  1. 00:58:403 (3) - What about curving the slider to the left instead of to the right (or just Ctrl+H it)? Gives a better flow, IMO.
  2. 02:23:018 (3) - Stacking this below 02:22:864 (2) breaks the flow, IMO. How about moving this to around (159,253) to make a triangle? It'll also flow very well with 02:23:172 (1,2,3).
  3. 03:04:556 - 03:08:787 - whoa dude wait. This 3 1/2-stanza long 1/4 circle stream is a great difficulty spike, and leaves quite a big gap in terms of difficulty curve compared to Hard. This stream is cool, but it's just... too difficult to be in this diff. Try to replace some of the circles with 1/4 kick sliders.
Ah okay, just that I guess.

Good luck on the way 8-)
keeeeeeko
@Hinsvar
Fixed all! (00:31:172 (2) move to 164,212)
thanks for modding :)

Update: http://puu.sh/8doPt.zip
Natsu

Hinsvar wrote:

>Natsu's Easy
  1. 00:55:326 (2,3) - Maybe make the gap between the two sliders bigger (for example, move (3) to (104,260)? It makes the 00:54:095 (1,2,3) patten look neater. for this ones is on purpose, they play really nice for new players (already asked to some friends for test in this diff)
  2. 01:16:249 (3,2,3) - Same as the first suggestion in this diff. They look too close compared to the usual spacing you use. ^
  3. 02:00:864 (2,3) - ^ ^
  4. 02:20:864 (2,3) - ^ (For this one, you can try moving (3) to (80,60).) ^
removed lines = done
SPOILER
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Creator:rEdo
Version:Natsu's Easy
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Tags:Imperishable Night th08 IN Extend Ash Hourai Victim Fujiwara no Mokou Teto Merami Comiket 81 c81 Each And Every Word Leaves Me Here Alone keeeeeeko Natsu
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Topic Starter
rEdo

Hinsvar wrote:

>General
  1. Not a big deal TBH, but isn't 884 KB for the BG too big...? Not really. I saw a lot of BGs of this size.
>Normal
  1. I think CS4 is a little too difficult for a Normal, especially at this speed and considering that the rhythm is kinda complex. Should be still (somewhat) okay, though. It's alright, I believe.
  2. 01:50:095 (6,1) - Spacing inconsistency? Even if it's intentional, it's still hard to read... Not really, I asked a lot of beginner people to testplay it and they didn't have any problems with reading that.
  3. 01:58:710 (2,3) - ^ Fixed this one, though.
  4. 02:01:633 (4,1) - ^_^
  5. 02:21:633 (3) - Move this to 02:21:479 to follow the vocal there? It's a lot easier to read and play this way. I like it the way it currently is.
  6. 02:47:941 (2,3,4,5,1) - ...I don't have a problem with this one, though. Just saying. It's quite intuitive, isn't it? I also wanted to gradually increase the distance snap so players won't be surprised with the 02:48:864 (5,1) jump.
  7. 02:58:403 (3,1) - Eh, spacing inconsistency again? I think this one is unintentional. It's easily playable and readable, though.
  8. 03:00:864 (2,3) - ^_^
  9. 03:52:710 - Remove the inherited timing point here since it's useless. Nope, it ends the Kiai. Will be noticeable especially in Taiko mode.
>Lunatic
  1. 00:58:403 (3) - What about curving the slider to the left instead of to the right (or just Ctrl+H it)? Gives a better flow, IMO. Maybe you didn't notice, but most of my sliders at the edge of the screen are curved "towards" the center of the screen. I don't wanna break that, and I also doubt the flow would change at all.
  2. 02:23:018 (3) - Stacking this below 02:22:864 (2) breaks the flow, IMO. How about moving this to around (159,253) to make a triangle? It'll also flow very well with 02:23:172 (1,2,3). I believe it's fine like that. Slightly improved the distance snap here.
  3. 03:04:556 - 03:08:787 - whoa dude wait. This 3 1/2-stanza long 1/4 circle stream is a great difficulty spike, and leaves quite a big gap in terms of difficulty curve compared to Hard. This stream is cool, but it's just... too difficult to be in this diff. Try to replace some of the circles with 1/4 kick sliders. I wanna see more opinions on that stream before I change it. I'd love to leave it how it currently is, though :(
Ah okay, just that I guess. Thanks for taking your time, helped out a bunch.

Good luck on the way 8-) Thanks a lot! :)
Smoothie
M4M~

Sorry... took longer than I expected ._.

[General]

All good

[Insane]
00:25:787 (1) - A Finish on the slider start wouldn't be so bad imo.
00:33:018 (5) - The clap here sounds a bit odd imo.
00:33:479 (2) - Stack this one on top of 00:33:018 (5)? This would actually make the flow a bit better.
01:00:556 (2,3) - *Nazi* Make a better blanket?
00:53:172 (3) - How about placing that slider like this? 01:28:249 (5,6,1,2) - Imo this part would play nicer if these two were a slider. 01:28:249 (5,6)
01:30:864 - A note here would be nice.
01:57:787 (5) - Clap on the slider end to emphasize the following finish a bit more?
02:07:249 - A note here would be nice. If you did that don't forget to stack the tripplet~
02:16:864 (1,4) - Claps?
02:42:710 (3) - Ctrl+G would make the flow better imo.
03:06:479 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Consider moving these a bit to the right... just so the first notes aren't hidden under the previous ones. Like this: 03:38:095 (2) - Stack this one on top of 03:38:864 (6)?
03:50:710 (3) - Ctrl+G?
03:51:018 (4) - ^

[keeeeeeko's Hard]
01:01:479 - Consider adding a note here. Players might hit the following slider too soon without a note there.
01:11:326 - Same as I mentioned above.
01:17:172 (5,6) - Try this instead: 01:21:172 - Note here for the same reason I mentioned above.
01:33:018 (3) - Is this not stacked with 01:32:710 (2) on purpose?
02:20:249 - Note here~ Same reason as mentioned above.
02:35:326 (2) - This one is a bit weird. How about making it a 1/2 slider?

[Normal]
01:05:172 (3,4,5) - How about this? 01:08:095 (5) - I don't think this finish is necessary.
01:42:403 (3,4) - Same pattern as I suggested above?

[Natsu's Easy]
00:25:787 (1) - A Finish on the slider start would be nice.
02:44:864 (1,3) - *Nazi* Make this blanket a bit better~


Well, that's all.
Awesome map! Good luck on getting it ranked!
Topic Starter
rEdo

Smoothie wrote:

[Insane]
00:25:787 (1) - A Finish on the slider start wouldn't be so bad imo. Sounds quite overused to me.
00:33:018 (5) - The clap here sounds a bit odd imo. It's there to add some extra emphasis to the finish that's next to it.
00:33:479 (2) - Stack this one on top of 00:33:018 (5)? This would actually make the flow a bit better. I wanna have that jumpy feeling between (2,3).
01:00:556 (2,3) - *Nazi* Make a better blanket? Nice catch.
00:53:172 (3) - How about placing that slider like this? I want it to somewhat blanket the (4)'s curve.
01:28:249 (5,6,1,2) - Imo this part would play nicer if these two were a slider. 01:28:249 (5,6) I want to add some impact on drums, though.
01:30:864 - A note here would be nice. I don't really hear anything to follow that up with...
01:57:787 (5) - Clap on the slider end to emphasize the following finish a bit more? Yup.
02:07:249 - A note here would be nice. If you did that don't forget to stack the tripplet~ Following the guitar here.
02:16:864 (1,4) - Claps? Whistles.
02:42:710 (3) - Ctrl+G would make the flow better imo. It's like that on purpose for the jumpy feeling. Note how every other slider is placed like that, except for being rotated.
03:06:479 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Consider moving these a bit to the right... just so the first notes aren't hidden under the previous ones. I wanna leave it how it currently is for now.
03:38:095 (2) - Stack this one on top of 03:38:864 (6)? Too sudden of a jump I guess.
03:50:710 (3) - Ctrl+G? It's like that on purpose
03:51:018 (4) - ^_^

[Normal]
01:05:172 (3,4,5) - How about this? Following the vocals here.
01:08:095 (5) - I don't think this finish is necessary. It's there for consistency with Lunatic. It gives some nice impact as well.
01:42:403 (3,4) - Same pattern as I suggested above? Following the drums this time.

Well, that's all. Thanks for your time, sorry for being picky as hell ><"
Awesome map! Good luck on getting it ranked! Thanks a bunch. :)
Waiting for keeeeeeko's and Natsu's difficulties before updating.
keeeeeeko

Smoothie wrote:

M4M~

Sorry... took longer than I expected ._.

[keeeeeeko's Hard]
01:01:479 - Consider adding a note here. Players might hit the following slider too soon without a note there. No change.I want to follow the vocal.
01:11:326 - Same as I mentioned above. ^
01:17:172 (5,6) - Try this instead: fixed 01:21:172 - Note here for the same reason I mentioned above. no change
01:33:018 (3) - Is this not stacked with 01:32:710 (2) on purpose? Yes this is intentionally.
02:20:249 - Note here~ Same reason as mentioned above. no change
02:35:326 (2) - This one is a bit weird. How about making it a 1/2 slider? I want to keep current state.

Well, that's all.
Awesome map! Good luck on getting it ranked!
thanks for modding!

Update: http://puu.sh/8dAzd.zip
Topic Starter
rEdo

Hinsvar wrote:

>Lunatic
  1. 03:04:556 - 03:08:787 - whoa dude wait. This 3 1/2-stanza long 1/4 circle stream is a great difficulty spike, and leaves quite a big gap in terms of difficulty curve compared to Hard. This stream is cool, but it's just... too difficult to be in this diff. Try to replace some of the circles with 1/4 kick sliders.
After a deeper thought, I actually decided to apply this. I'm certain it's alright now.

RIP DEATHSTREAM YOU WILL BE MISSED
down from 3.67 to a whooping 3.54 just because I replaced 8 notes with a kickslider wow

SAVING FOR GENERATIONS
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Ready for further modding, by the way.
Ciyus Miapah
modding time
[spoilerbox]

[Natsu's Easy]
00:44:556 (2) - how about this? http://puu.sh/8ewDO.jpg
00:47:941 (1) - make this curvy. ex like this http://puu.sh/8ewHS.jpg
01:13:787 (1) - how about this http://puu.sh/8ewRe.jpg
01:10:095 (2,1,2) - i think this pattern is little tricky try this pattern http://puu.sh/8ex8J.jpg
01:20:864 (1,2) - how about this? ]http://puu.sh/8exi1.jpg
01:45:787 (1) - Nice spinner
02:07:941 (4) - maybe add spinner
03:23:787 (3) - umm i think this patter will be nice (add some circle) http://puu.sh/8exPE.jpg
03:39:326 (2) - this better http://puu.sh/8exYI.jpg

[Normal]
00:49:172 (1) - try this slider patternhttp://puu.sh/8eyTB.jpg
00:59:633 (4,5) - change to this 00:59:633 (4,5,6,7) . ex. http://puu.sh/8ez2j.jpg
02:03:018 (4,2) - try this http://puu.sh/8ez8U.jpg
02:21:633 (3) - i think this slider will be good pattern if like this http://puu.sh/8ezem.jpg
03:21:787 (1,2,3) - umm this pattern is little tricky, change to this one. ex (add circle) http://puu.sh/8ezpd.jpg

[keno's Hard]
00:27:018 (1,2) - make this curvy. like this http://puu.sh/8ezz1.jpg
00:37:479 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - change pattern like this (please no sudden stream) http://puu.sh/8ezFg.jpg
00:47:941 (1,2) - try this pattern http://puu.sh/8ezLK.jpg and try this http://puu.sh/8ezNf.jpg
01:45:326 (4,5) - try this http://puu.sh/8ezXN.jpg
01:51:326 (3) - i think this will be nice if like this http://puu.sh/8eA1F.jpg
01:57:479 (3,4) - try this? http://puu.sh/8eA6q.jpg
02:03:018 (1,2) - make this curvy, ex http://puu.sh/8eA9g.jpg
02:35:326 (2) - slider end use sampleset soft
02:37:479 (1,2,3) - ^
03:18:556 (3) - i think make this slider 1/2 is best choice
03:49:172 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - kinda little tricky pattern

sorry, for keno's hard cause i cant read how many e letter in your nick XD

[Lunatic]

00:33:479 (2) - stack with slider 3 (start slider)
01:14:095 (1) - move like this http://puu.sh/8eAWZ.jpg
01:48:249 - Slider break time XD
01:55:633 (1) - i think its too long jump, try this one http://puu.sh/8eB4Q.jpg
02:16:864 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rotate 13 degres, and move it properly
02:18:556 (1,2,3) - you trick me out, change like this? http://puu.sh/8eBji.jpg
02:25:787 (1,2,3) - super tricky about slider, try this pattern http://puu.sh/8eBnC.jpg
03:04:249 (1,2) - please, i beg you change this to slider :(
03:38:095 (2) - stack with slider 3 (start slider), cause stack in end slider is little bit tricky
03:50:710 (3) - ctrl+g
03:51:018 (4) - ctrl+g

fucking deathstream ruined my gameplay

bye ~
Topic Starter
rEdo

Fort wrote:

[Normal]
00:49:172 (1) - try this slider patternhttp://puu.sh/8eyTB.jpg Following the vocals.
00:59:633 (4,5) - change to this 00:59:633 (4,5,6,7) . ex. http://puu.sh/8ez2j.jpg I like it the way it currently is.
02:03:018 (4,2) - try this http://puu.sh/8ez8U.jpg Nice catch, I forgot to curve these.
02:21:633 (3) - i think this slider will be good pattern if like this http://puu.sh/8ezem.jpg Extended 1/4 sliders on a Normal? No way.
03:21:787 (1,2,3) - umm this pattern is little tricky, change to this one. ex (add circle) http://puu.sh/8ezpd.jpg I guess it's okay how it is. There also are parts where the pattern's the same (like 01:50:710 (1,2,3)­).

[Lunatic]
00:33:479 (2) - stack with slider 3 (start slider) Not really.
01:14:095 (1) - move like this http://puu.sh/8eAWZ.jpg Nah, the triangle-like thingie is there on purpose.
01:48:249 - Slider break time XD Chorus slider velocity change.
01:55:633 (1) - i think its too long jump, try this one http://puu.sh/8eB4Q.jpg Nice catch, but I like it this way.
02:16:864 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rotate 13 degres, and move it properly It's like that on purpose.
02:18:556 (1,2,3) - you trick me out, change like this? http://puu.sh/8eBji.jpg It's not that hard to read.
02:25:787 (1,2,3) - super tricky about slider, try this pattern http://puu.sh/8eBnC.jpg I don't even know what you do mean ._.
03:04:249 (1,2) - please, i beg you change this to slider :( It's getting players ready for the approaching deathstream.
03:38:095 (2) - stack with slider 3 (start slider), cause stack in end slider is little bit tricky There's nothing wrong with it.
03:50:710 (3) - ctrl+g
03:51:018 (4) - ctrl+g

bye ~ Thanks for modding. :)
Kudosu for the slider suggestion on Normal.
Asagi
Hello :3
from my queue

[General]
  1. The combo colour is look similar.Since player usually dimmed BGs, dark red is kinda hard to see, try to add different color
    Try this

    since white and red fits Mokou
  2. Keep kiais consistent through your diffs. It's okay for guest diffs to have different kiais, but your diffs should have the same kiais.
  3. normal-hitnormal kinda hurt my ear, try to remove it, since the default normal fits better imo (i tried removing it, quite good to me)

[Lunatic]
  1. 00:27:787 (2,3,4,5) - the rhythm here perfectly fits, but the 1/6 stream is kinda bad idea. MOST player cant catch up a 1/6 4 note stream , try to change it to repeat slider instead
  2. 00:27:941 (5) - how bout try to speed this up?
  3. 00:39:326 (1) - ctrl+G this, to make a circular flow
  4. 00:49:633 (3) - nazi, i got a feeling that you can make better blanket here
  5. 01:04:249 (3) - nazi again, better blanket here
  6. 01:28:710 (2) - to 01:33:326 (4) - try to slow down this part because that part is kinda soft? lets say... and it call really calls for a slow down there (like he did on Hard)
  7. 01:38:556 (4) - to 01:43:018 (4) - ^
  8. 01:47:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to increase the stream spacing here a bit, to make it more intense and exciting before entering kiai
  9. 03:45:633 (3) - i think this slider is quite too high, try to lower it a bit
Awesome diff :3

[keeeeeeeeeeeeeko's Hard]
  1. 00:47:941 (1,2) - the pattern here is quite confusing, i play it i thought it was a 3 repeat slider, judging on the pattern, so maybe you can change the pattern like this, so it cannot be mistaken as 3 repeat slider like i did, i dont wanna ruin you style, so try to consider it
    box

    its just an idea, you can change it the way you want
  2. 00:52:095 (2) - try to remove this, to emphasize the vocals well
  3. 01:45:787 (1,2,3,4) - and again, the pattern confuse me, i thought it was 1/6 repeat slider or something lol,try it like this
    box

    its just an idea, you can change it the way you want
  4. 01:53:787 (3) - nazi, blanket this better
  5. 02:37:479 (1,2,3) - im not sure if they ended in the red tick or blue tick
  6. 02:07:634 (4) - try to remove one repeat, then put a note here 02:07:941 - with NC, to emphasize the finish hitsound well
  7. 02:59:479 (3) - remove this, no rhythm/vocal is follow this note
  8. 03:27:941 (1,2,3,4) - same as i said earlier
  9. 03:48:556 (3,4,5,6) - im not sure if anyone allowed this, i know the reason why stream here since its the last part, but i think its quite hard for hard? so try to consider it
Good diff

[Normal]

  • Just minor stuff
  1. 00:56:556 (4) - NC here
  2. 01:00:249 (5) - id suggest to remove one repeat, because this is the only slider like that, try to make it like this
  3. 01:08:095 (5) - try to make it 1/2 slider and adjust it here 01:08:249 - it fits the vocals well
  4. 01:35:941 (1) - nazi, better blanket here
  5. 01:38:249 (2) - im not sure if deleting this note makes it much better rhythm
  6. 02:02:556 (1,2,3) - this is quite hard for normal, 3 consecutive 1/2 note , try to make them 1 1/2 slider and a note or 1 repeat 1/2 slider
  7. 02:48:710 (4) - delete this note, quite more fitting on the screamvocals
  8. 03:02:095 (3) - NC here
  9. 03:04:556 (5) - ^
  10. 03:23:787 (1) - remove NC here, then put it here 03:24:249 (2) - instead
  11. 03:43:479 (1,2,3) - same as i said earlier

I checked Easy, Cant spot/mod anything

Nice Mapset :3
Good Luck :D
Topic Starter
rEdo

-Asagi wrote:

[General]
  1. The combo colour is look similar.Since player usually dimmed BGs, dark red is kinda hard to see, try to add different color Fixed.
  2. Keep kiais consistent through your diffs. It's okay for guest diffs to have different kiais, but your diffs should have the same kiais. The only reason why Lunatic has a Kiai at a certain part of the song is because of that deathstream. The rest is completely consistent and fine.
  3. normal-hitnormal kinda hurt my ear, try to remove it, since the default normal fits better imo (i tried removing it, quite good to me) Replaced with the normal-hitnormal you sent me.

[Lunatic]
  1. 00:27:787 (2,3,4,5) - the rhythm here perfectly fits, but the 1/6 stream is kinda bad idea. MOST player cant catch up a 1/6 4 note stream , try to change it to repeat slider instead I want to leave it.
  2. 00:27:941 (5) - how bout try to speed this up? Slightly, but why not.
  3. 00:39:326 (1) - ctrl+G this, to make a circular flow I want these notes to form a square, though: 00:38:710 (3,6,7,1)­. The flow seems fine how it currently is as well to me.
  4. 00:49:633 (3) - nazi, i got a feeling that you can make better blanket here It's like that on purpose here, though.
  5. 01:04:249 (3) - nazi again, better blanket here And again.
  6. 01:28:710 (2) - to 01:33:326 (4) - try to slow down this part because that part is kinda soft? lets say... and it call really calls for a slow down there (like he did on Hard) I don't think so, it's fine how it currently is.
  7. 01:38:556 (4) - to 01:43:018 (4) - ^_^
  8. 01:47:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to increase the stream spacing here a bit, to make it more intense and exciting before entering kiai Would be quite too hard like that imo.
  9. 03:45:633 (3) - i think this slider is quite too high, try to lower it a bit Oops, fixed.
Awesome diff :3 Thanks!

[Normal]
  1. 00:56:556 (4) - NC here Nice catch.
  2. 01:00:249 (5) - id suggest to remove one repeat, because this is the only slider like that, try to make it like this Yeah, it's the first slider at the intense part of the song, so I wanted to make it quite easier like that.
  3. 01:08:095 (5) - try to make it 1/2 slider and adjust it here 01:08:249 - it fits the vocals well I wanted to give much more momentus to the drums at this point, though.
  4. 01:35:941 (1) - nazi, better blanket here Fixed, I guess.
  5. 01:38:249 (2) - im not sure if deleting this note makes it much better rhythm Drums.
  6. 02:02:556 (1,2,3) - this is quite hard for normal, 3 consecutive 1/2 note , try to make them 1 1/2 slider and a note or 1 repeat 1/2 slider I wanted to add a little spike of difficulty here, though :)
  7. 02:48:710 (4) - delete this note, quite more fitting on the screamvocals I was quite sure I'm actually following the vocals here o_o"
  8. 03:02:095 (3) - NC here Nope, I wanna leave it how it currently is.
  9. 03:04:556 (5) - ^_^
  10. 03:23:787 (1) - remove NC here, then put it here 03:24:249 (2) - instead Following the combo pattern with vocals here.
  11. 03:43:479 (1,2,3) - same as i said earlier Yup.

Nice Mapset :3 Thank you! Thanks for your time, really helped me out.
Good Luck :D <3
keeeeeeko
Frot

Fort wrote:

modding time

[keno's Hard]
00:27:018 (1,2) - make this curvy. like this http://puu.sh/8ezz1.jpg no change
00:37:479 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - change pattern like this (please no sudden stream) http://puu.sh/8ezFg.jpg no change. white tick triplet is more suddenly imo.
00:47:941 (1,2) - try this pattern http://puu.sh/8ezLK.jpg and try this http://puu.sh/8ezNf.jpg no change
01:45:326 (4,5) - try this http://puu.sh/8ezXN.jpg no change
01:51:326 (3) - i think this will be nice if like this http://puu.sh/8eA1F.jpg fixed
01:57:479 (3,4) - try this? http://puu.sh/8eA6q.jpg no change
02:03:018 (1,2) - make this curvy, ex http://puu.sh/8eA9g.jpg no change
02:35:326 (2) - slider end use sampleset soft fixed
02:37:479 (1,2,3) - ^ no change
03:18:556 (3) - i think make this slider 1/2 is best choice no change
03:49:172 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - kinda little tricky pattern I don't think so.

sorry, for keno's hard cause i cant read how many e letter in your nick XD

bye ~
-Asagi

-Asagi wrote:

Hello :3
from my queue
[keeeeeeeeeeeeeko's Hard]
  1. 00:47:941 (1,2) - the pattern here is quite confusing, i play it i thought it was a 3 repeat slider, judging on the pattern, so maybe you can change the pattern like this, so it cannot be mistaken as 3 repeat slider like i did, i dont wanna ruin you style, so try to consider it fixed

    its just an idea, you can change it the way you want
  2. 00:52:095 (2) - try to remove this, to emphasize the vocals well no change. Lyrics is like this. http://puu.sh/8eSfZ
  3. 01:45:787 (1,2,3,4) - and again, the pattern confuse me, i thought it was 1/6 repeat slider or something lol,try it like this Sorry no change. current state is better imo.

    its just an idea, you can change it the way you want
  4. 01:53:787 (3) - nazi, blanket this better fixed
  5. 02:37:479 (1,2,3) - im not sure if they ended in the red tick or blue tick umm ok fixed red tick
  6. 02:07:634 (4) - try to remove one repeat, then put a note here 02:07:941 - with NC, to emphasize the finish hitsound well fixed
  7. 02:59:479 (3) - remove this, no rhythm/vocal is follow this note fixed
  8. 03:27:941 (1,2,3,4) - same as i said earlier Same as the above.but I think about placement again.
  9. 03:48:556 (3,4,5,6) - im not sure if anyone allowed this, i know the reason why stream here since its the last part, but i think its quite hard for hard? so try to consider it keep. Drum sounds here.
Good diff thanks owo!
Nice Mapset :3
Good Luck :D
thanks for modding guys!
update: http://puu.sh/8eTPZ.zip
Natsu
Fort

Fort wrote:

modding time
[spoilerbox]

[Natsu's Easy]
00:44:556 (2) - how about this? http://puu.sh/8ewDO.jpg is like that already
00:47:941 (1) - make this curvy. ex like this http://puu.sh/8ewHS.jpg nah is straight on purpose, since it follow the music change nicely there
01:13:787 (1) - how about this http://puu.sh/8ewRe.jpg I prefer my current one
01:10:095 (2,1,2) - i think this pattern is little tricky try this pattern http://puu.sh/8ex8J.jpg my current one fit the music better there, also is not confused them are 2 repeat sliders
01:20:864 (1,2) - how about this? ]http://puu.sh/8exi1.jpg nop, I want my straight sliders there
01:45:787 (1) - Nice spinner t-thanks?
02:07:941 (4) - maybe add spinner will be not consistent with others diffs
03:23:787 (3) - umm i think this patter will be nice (add some circle) http://puu.sh/8exPE.jpg will be too hard for an easy IMO
03:39:326 (2) - this better http://puu.sh/8exYI.jpg I prefer my slider shape, sowwy
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