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how the meta affect the new players?

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ryurtr
11 posts
Joined October 2021
Topic Starter
ryurtr
writting this because today the meta is only speed and with the mrekk's new pp record i think that the meta can change not a lot but change considerally, but what changes in the mind of a new osu player?
when i started the meta was aim and i grinded aim alot at the time but if someone that starts today looking at sytho's azul play, he possibly will think that the game is 100% in it and he will test thinking that is easy but suddently he plays and see that is hard then quit osu because he has seen some whole different game that he is playing.


sorry for the bad english bc im training it and its my first topic and i would apriciate if can discuss with me :)
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UPR
722 posts
Joined October 2018
UPR
So this discussion has been talked about a lot (I have seen it discussed a few times every few weeks on the sub and in some discords I am in,) and to be honest, not a lot at all. Sure people may get in after seeing Mrekk be DT pilled because he makes it seem like that is all he is good at or Sytho going absolutely insane on maps, maybe even Akilobed's pop off this last month, but overall it won't change things for new players. Everyone gets into osu in one way or another, watching insane plays from top players is a common one; always has been since the Cookiezi era of 2011-2013 (even longer probably tbh) When people saw the plays of the past such as Adamqs HDDTHR FC of Wing my Way, FDFD HDHR FC, or Tsukinami what do you think was the two common reactions when they installed osu afterward to try and replicate that? Not touching it again or playing more of the game. This will be the exact same reactions with each meta as well. Some people will get with it, and some will not, but if they are staying and having fun, then it doesn't really matter imo.
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii
it doesn't really affect new players i think

they only play for fun sooooooo
Nanofranne
692 posts
Joined May 2018
Nanofranne
In my opinion, little to none.

Everyone plays differently, each to their strengths and weaknesses. Maybe if someone determined enough to climb pp and rank, they have to play the meta. But most, if not pretty much all new players, play for fun.

though you're right that everyone kinda have to play DT
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Indomi-chan
1,370 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan

Nanofranne wrote:

In my opinion, little to none.

Everyone plays differently, each to their strenghts and weaknesses. Maybe if someone determined enough to climb pp and rank, they have to play the meta. But most, if not pretty much all new players, play for fun.

though you're right that everyone kinda have to play DT
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WitherMite
1,599 posts
Joined August 2019
WitherMite
Yea it really doesnt matter what the meta is, if a new player expects to be able to play like insert top player making some record setting play, thats a them problem. If they get discouraged after that, they just dont have the right mindset for rhythm games.

or improving at anything for that matter
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AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork
in my case, the first "omg that's insane" video I saw was Cookiezi FCing Everything will freeze. It was probably because of that that I wanted to play stream maps and get better at them to eventually be able to play Time Freeze.

when I started playing, I think Whitecat was still #1 and I literally didn't even know him, or any other top players apart from cookiezi. I also didnt know any of the PP records or Legendary plays at the time.

basically, I really don't think it matters too much to newer players as they will just play what they want to.
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Babilfrenzo
203 posts
Joined January 2018
Babilfrenzo
I never looked at top players' scores when I was new, only my friends and whoever was on map leaderboards.
Voidedosu
3,105 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu

Nanofranne wrote:

though you're right that everyone kinda have to play DT
Way too sad but way too true and I hate it so goddamn much. I think I would appreciate DT more if it wasn't so ubiquitous And simultaneously a literal requirement to even place high on the pp leaderboards (unless you become the second coming of Vaxei, and even then...)


Butyeah, UPR and Nano have it right, more or less. Hell, I first started knowing basically nobody (I don't even remember who played the Asymmetry FC that first got me interested), and that was true when I came back in 2021. That and being influenced into going for 100% from GH/RB is probably why I'm a dedicated SS farmer today, but who knows what I might've been drawn to if I knew about WhiteCat and such?
Nanofranne
692 posts
Joined May 2018
Nanofranne

Voidedosu wrote:

Nanofranne wrote:

though you're right that everyone kinda have to play DT
Way too sad but way too true and I hate it so goddamn much. I think I would appreciate DT more if it wasn't so ubiquitous And simultaneously a literal requirement to even place high on the pp leaderboards
DT is interesting when you play it on alt, low AR maps and tech. Also EZDT
MrMcMikey22
1,745 posts
Joined January 2021
MrMcMikey22

Nanofranne wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

Nanofranne wrote:

though you're right that everyone kinda have to play DT
Way too sad but way too true and I hate it so goddamn much. I think I would appreciate DT more if it wasn't so ubiquitous And simultaneously a literal requirement to even place high on the pp leaderboards
DT is interesting when you play it on alt, low AR maps and tech. Also EZDT
I've tried it multiple times and I already regret doing DT plays, because DT is so hard to pull off... ;_;


But I got some interesting scores I think..?

DT

scores/osu/4437447648
scores/osu/4431931512
scores/osu/4465802869
scores/osu/4465801665
scores/osu/4502185068

EZDT

scores/osu/4423632991
scores/osu/4415377284
scores/osu/4424424427
Nanofranne
692 posts
Joined May 2018
Nanofranne

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I've tried it multiple times and I already regret doing DT plays, because DT is so hard to pull off... ;_;


But I got some interesting scores I think..?

DT

scores/osu/4437447648
scores/osu/4431931512
scores/osu/4465802869
scores/osu/4465801665
scores/osu/4502185068

EZDT

scores/osu/4423632991
scores/osu/4415377284
scores/osu/4424424427
Very nice! You definitely can pull that off. I'm even more impressed with your ez plays on your top 100
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Indomi-chan
1,370 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan
welp this aged well
akolibed got 1.5kpp by speed
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

thetm wrote:

welp this aged well
akolibed got 1.5kpp by speed
speed is impossible aaaaaaaaaa
UPR
722 posts
Joined October 2018
UPR
Akolibed after reinforcing the speed meta heavily


Also our only hope is now Shige FCing the 9* ICDD map lol
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884 posts
Joined August 2019
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i really don't think it's gonna change much cuz most of the "free pp maps for beginners!" vids are full of aim maps and speed is rly hard to get into for noobs like me
Voidedosu
3,105 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu

Nanofranne wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

Nanofranne wrote:

though you're right that everyone kinda have to play DT
Way too sad but way too true and I hate it so goddamn much. I think I would appreciate DT more if it wasn't so ubiquitous And simultaneously a literal requirement to even place high on the pp leaderboards
DT is interesting when you play it on alt, low AR maps and tech. Also EZDT
I don't think so. It destroys my UR far too much to find it enjoyable on anything. At this point I only care to play it on the lowest maps as HRHDDT or 2* maps above AR7 (cuz I can't reliably play them with HR yet). Even the few I play for the sake of video uploads are still below AR6.
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