The points every "pro-mania-spec players" wanted to show are all grouped into Drace's post (page 6).Chocobubba wrote:
From what I can tell, osu! does a pretty bang up job on converting.
No it does not. ACs served as temporary playable for when o!m first came out, like a preview or something like that.
But excluding that, the ranking system isn't meant to judge what songs are "valid" or not, that's what a song being approved/ranked does.
You wouldn't let football players play on an invalid field full of holes especially in a competitive environment now would you ?
The ranking system is designed to determine the skill level of a player comparable to his/her fellow players. It simply wouldn't make since for a kick ass player to have all of their time thrown down the drain from playing auto-converts and have a rank far worse than some elitist that only plays !mania maps, but can only play at about the same skill level as a baboon sitting on the keyboard!
Kick ass players who score very high scores on ACs usually plays mania-spec maps as well. Don't confuse elitist players with players who play the game mode how it is supposed to be played.
Scale them slightly? Sure, I can understand that. Invalidate them entirely? Perish the thought, it's asinine and rather unfair.
There are 1001 reasons for which we should totally eliminate them from the mania ranking system. Every counter-arguments I've read so far are half-assed.
Please don't talk about autoconverts vs. mania-spec maps if you don't know anything about the game-mode.
Good luck with the ranking system, Tom.
I'm thinking of something about determining maps' density. I might throw this idea into the Feature Requests sometime later : what about a toggle (similar to how Kiai is applied currently - from a point of time to another) to be applied on a certain part of the song which would eliminate this part from the density count ? That is, several songs have some calm parts which don't have many notes at the said part, and as such don't reflect the real density of the map. This would also fix the Star Rating to a certain extent. I believe this would facilitate your work with the algorithms and all. This would require some work from woc2006 but it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
Thoughts guys ?