But the number of pp doesn't matter, because it's only a numberCamnel wrote:
Think im not coming back from this one, i mean, 136pp FUCK MY LIFE
combo doesKexxon wrote:
Is combo/score a big factor in ppv2 if any at all?
Ok I would say I agree since I suck at streams but streams are rather critical for determining speed and accuracy/consistency.[El_Cake] wrote:
NERF THE STREAMS! 'nough said
pp got recalculatedKreto wrote:
i give up on ranking its like i gained pp like up 599 yesterday then today after 1 game i drop to 74k and 583 pp again wtf ig ive up on ranking just sigh...
i know there is people better than me buny but i got 599 pp yesterday like 9:30 and now at like 1:00pm it drops so thats recalculating huh like i raise it and i drop after a day it just doesnt seem fun anymore to rank so yeah. Thanks for the replybuny wrote:
pp got recalculatedKreto wrote:
i give up on ranking its like i gained pp like up 599 yesterday then today after 1 game i drop to 74k and 583 pp again wtf ig ive up on ranking just sigh...
believe it or not, there are people better than you
Because just "passing" top tier maps is difficult to reliably evaluate performance..dennischan wrote:
Thats not a tragedy, you can get your ranks back.
Passing mad machine and getting nothing IS a tragedy.
passing mad machine is just so stupidly hard its much harder than a random FC on insanes which are actually not so hard.
I dont understand why we get no pp from top tier maps while farming insanes give tons of pp
On top of that mashing can let you pass those maps. Also, all those misses and combo breaks mean that not much aim was involved.HoboEater wrote:
Because just "passing" top tier maps is difficult to reliably evaluate performance..dennischan wrote:
Thats not a tragedy, you can get your ranks back.
Passing mad machine and getting nothing IS a tragedy.
passing mad machine is just so stupidly hard its much harder than a random FC on insanes which are actually not so hard.
I dont understand why we get no pp from top tier maps while farming insanes give tons of pp
pp are called "performance points". They are rating your performance, not your skill. Those 2 things are very similar but not exactly the same. Let's look at a piano player for instance. Would you rate a perfect interpretation of an easier piece lower than a horrible play through some ridiculously hard piece? I wouldn't.dennischan wrote:
Thats not a tragedy, you can get your ranks back.
Passing mad machine and getting nothing IS a tragedy.
passing mad machine is just so stupidly hard its much harder than a random FC on insanes which are actually not so hard.
I dont understand why we get no pp from top tier maps while farming insanes give tons of pp
There might be such a display at some point.-MrPotato- wrote:
I didn't read all of the 46 pages because I'm lazy so maybe someone already asked this, if there will be a way to look at your own accuracy\speed\aim level like Osu!tp shows, expaple: http://puu.sh/7ezSR.png.
Everytime you lost pp, the algorithm that calculates pp has changed. You haven't lost any pp, according to the new algorithm you just have the pp you have.mike6649 wrote:
I can understand the fact that pp is constantly being recalculated, but I believe 100pp disappearing every single time it does so is simply absurd.
Can someone explain what factors contribute to a decrease in pp?
How about this X person is playing insane maps and he fc them but whit lower acc like around 94% acc lets say then Y person is doing hard and normals and even easy whit alot of mods gets a good acc around 98% and getting high ranks and they are at same rank. Shouldn't the Y person be lower rank since it takes much less skill than doing insanes?Tom94 wrote:
pp are called "performance points". They are rating your performance, not your skill. Those 2 things are very similar but not exactly the same. Let's look at a piano player for instance. Would you rate a perfect interpretation of an easier piece lower than a horrible play through some ridiculously hard piece? I wouldn't.dennischan wrote:
Thats not a tragedy, you can get your ranks back.
Passing mad machine and getting nothing IS a tragedy.
passing mad machine is just so stupidly hard its much harder than a random FC on insanes which are actually not so hard.
I dont understand why we get no pp from top tier maps while farming insanes give tons of pp
The first requirement for getting pp is delivering a decent performance. Map difficulty is also factored in and can make up for worse performances up to a certain degree, but barely passing won't get you anywhere. As a guideline, you should try to get below 10 misses and above 90% accuracy if you want your play to be rated well. A higher combo also does help. Of course if the map indeed is ridiculously hard, then you can get away even with a low accuracy, as long as you keep your misses low and your combo high. You can see the C in jesus1412's best performances for instance.There might be such a display at some point.-MrPotato- wrote:
I didn't read all of the 46 pages because I'm lazy so maybe someone already asked this, if there will be a way to look at your own accuracy\speed\aim level like Osu!tp shows, expaple: http://puu.sh/7ezSR.png.
That really depends on the maps. Some hard maps become harder than insanes with the right mods.Symqn wrote:
How about this X person is playing insane maps and he fc them but whit lower acc like around 94% acc lets say then Y person is doing hard and normals and even easy whit alot of mods gets a good acc around 98% and getting high ranks and they are at same rank. Shouldn't the Y person be lower rank since it takes much less skill than doing insanes?
Yes there isDesu_p wrote:
Any plan to put "Level" difficulty beside the map? easy to know which map is harder etc. Put ingame i mean because lazy to go to osutp website xD
Happens to me too. From my understanding, the performance evaluation may have been delayed. i.e, you played that first map, and before the PP was given to you after you played the second map, making it seem like the second map was the one that gave you the pp. The second didn't affect your accuracy because it was probably not a good enough performance to be put into consideration.Soinou wrote:
I need someone to explain to me something about ppv2.
Why does This (#44), awards me no pp, and even makes my accuracy drop by 0.02%, while This makes me gain something like 1-2 pp, and doesn't make my accuracy drop.
I really don't understand.
Is there something wrong with me, or ? ...
And is it me or DT is totally overrated now ? Because i did some random DT scores, even with poor accuracy, and i gained a lot of pp, maybe like 10-15 by rank, when they were really bad.
) suck at DT. What's easy for you may not be easy for others. DT calculation is the exact same as nomod mapped at 1.5*speed. You can see that on the previous page, actually. It'd be a good idea to skim a few pages first, most questions have already been asked many times.Soinou wrote:
I need someone to explain to me something about ppv2.
Why does This (#44), awards me no pp, and even makes my accuracy drop by 0.02%, while This makes me gain something like 1-2 pp, and doesn't make my accuracy drop.
I really don't understand.
Is there something wrong with me, or ? ...
And is it me or DT is totally overrated now ? Because i did some random DT scores, even with poor accuracy, and i gained a lot of pp, maybe like 10-15 by rank, when they were really bad.
This remind me, I have a similar question about the rating of performances.JappyBabes wrote:
idk how these two made it into WWW/my best performance list but i'm pretty sure they shoudn't be there, especially to be rated as my two best.
There seems to be a bug in the difficulty calculations of those maps. I'll look into it. Suspecting it has to do with the fast repeat sliders.JappyBabes wrote:
idk how these two made it into WWW/my best performance list but i'm pretty sure they shoudn't be there, especially to be rated as my two best.
My best plays so far are mostly without mods (except for 1 which is DT), and i believe they in fact do specialise in one category (mostly aim or speed). I checked and the 'drops' in pp were on Feb 9th and March 1st respectively, yet the Feb 9th changelog didn't mention 'nerfing' anything in particular, which is even more confusing. Unless there are some changes that were not logged.DT-sama wrote:
Everytime you lost pp, the algorithm that calculates pp has changed. You haven't lost any pp, according to the new algorithm you just have the pp you have.mike6649 wrote:
I can understand the fact that pp is constantly being recalculated, but I believe 100pp disappearing every single time it does so is simply absurd.
Can someone explain what factors contribute to a decrease in pp?
Are you an FL or HD player? Do you have any scores that excel in one category in particular (e.g., a SS in 7000 circles OD11 map for accuracy, FC a 360bpm 7000 circles stream map for speed , FC a 360bpm 7000 circles full screen squares AR11 map for aim)? If you're not, you "lost" pp because the recent adjustments were to give a fairer pp value to such plays. For more info on how exactly it happened, read the thread.
The bug has been fixed. It'll propagate to your pp tomorrow.Tom94 wrote:
There seems to be a bug in the difficulty calculations of those maps. I'll look into it. Suspecting it has to do with the fast repeat sliders.JappyBabes wrote:
idk how these two made it into WWW/my best performance list but i'm pretty sure they shoudn't be there, especially to be rated as my two best.
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/changelog?category=performancemike6649 wrote:
My best plays so far are mostly without mods (except for 1 which is DT), and i believe they in fact do specialise in one category (mostly aim or speed). I checked and the 'drops' in pp were on Feb 9th and March 1st respectively, yet the Feb 9th changelog didn't mention 'nerfing' anything in particular, which is even more confusing. Unless there are some changes that were not logged.
Both. I lost pp, therefore I lost rank. And its not just a minor drop of pp, it was up to 10% of my total pp (1100 -> 1000)Wishy wrote:
Did you lose pp or you lost rank? Not the same thing.
I can't just make everyone's pp increase. I need to scale things down so the average of everyone stays the same. That means that you didn't profit much from the change and thus lost pp in the process of scaling everyone down. You probably have many scores which are about equal in each category and don't excel in one particular category.mike6649 wrote:
Both. I lost pp, therefore I lost rank. And its not just a minor drop of pp, it was up to 10% of my total pp (1100 -> 1000)Wishy wrote:
Did you lose pp or you lost rank? Not the same thing.
