If Acc of map which you played is high, Aim and Acc are increased somewhat. (If Acc is low, they will decrease. ）

As for HD, Aim is increased. and Acc is increased very slightly.

I am extremely happy with the new pp system, it puts those pp farmers that don't play anything but normal or hard in their place while giving those of us that actually take time to be good at the game a chance to earn appropriate rank. Thank you to Tom and peppy for making this new system that is all shiny and wonderful.

it's ok

My problem with hidden is that it doesn't match the scores. I understand why it happens, but the way the system is now I need to decide if I want to have better PP or better map score every time I get decent at a map. Since I am not good at accuracy I know that by playing hidden I will not get the same accuracy I do without it.

To those who said that their highest scores were C's; check how many misses you got in them, percentage does not matter nearly as much as how many misses or 50s you got.

Also, I just want to make sure; does pp directly correlate with ranking? I feel like it doesn't, and I want to know what else factors into ranking.

TMoI wrote:

To those who said that their highest scores were C's; check how many misses you got in them, percentage does not matter nearly as much as how many misses or 50s you got.

Also, I just want to make sure; does pp directly correlate with ranking? I feel like it doesn't, and I want to know what else factors into ranking.

Ranking has nothing to do with pp gained.

TMoI wrote:

To those who said that their highest scores were C's; check how many misses you got in them, percentage does not matter nearly as much as how many misses or 50s you got.

Also, I just want to make sure; does pp directly correlate with ranking? I feel like it doesn't, and I want to know what else factors into ranking.

pp is just a quantity rewarded for completing maps depending on their difficulty

other peoples ranking doesn't affect you at all, so your pp should NEVER go down unless you replace a score with a lower valued pp score

So Tom said it takes into account all scores, not just top 50 - so does that mean if I get a 99% with HDDT and another score on the same map with 100% DT, does it count them both or just the HDDT one? if they don't, would it be a good idea to? Like what if you can beat a map with DT and you can also beat it with FL but not together, should that person get PP for both or would that be a bad idea.

obviously when he said all scores, he meant all your online scores, regardless of rank...

Myke B wrote:

So Tom said it takes into account all scores, not just top 50 - so does that mean if I get a 99% with HDDT and another score on the same map with 100% DT, does it count them both or just the HDDT one? if they don't, would it be a good idea to? Like what if you can beat a map with DT and you can also beat it with FL but not together, should that person get PP for both or would that be a bad idea.

only the highest rank is used for each beatmap.

buny wrote:

obviously when he said all scores, he meant all your online scores, regardless of rank...

what? that doesn't answer what I asked lol. whether the score is online or offline has nothing to do what I asked. I asked if multiple scores on the same map are considered, and if not, would it be a bad idea (which now I obviously would say yeah, because of farming the same map).

The server only stores your highest score points-wise at any given moment so that's the only scores that can be used.

Does missing 5 notes at the same time penalize you as much as missing 5 notes in 5 different places throughout the map? (Same acc)

Novixion wrote:

Does missing 5 notes at the same time penalize you as much as missing 5 notes in 5 different places throughout the map? (Same acc)

depends on what combo you are holding at the time, and acc. Generally speaking, it doesn't matter where you miss the notes specifically.

Myke B wrote:

buny wrote:

obviously when he said all scores, he meant all your online scores, regardless of rank...

what? that doesn't answer what I asked lol. whether the score is online or offline has nothing to do what I asked. I asked if multiple scores on the same map are considered, and if not, would it be a bad idea (which now I obviously would say yeah, because of farming the same map).

you do realise that the only online scores are your best scores, right?

I actually didn't. I wasn't sure if when Tom said that it was all scores, that he meant "all top scores of yours" or all scores literally. Looking back at it now though, it seems dumb for me to think that it was possible for literally all scores. My b.

Tom, you should make ppv2 to the same calculation method as tp.

The map of score(50|50|50) is easier than the map of score(100|0|0).

Although I played a map like score(50|50|50) today, it was clearly easy.
Nevertheless, my pp went up considerably.
The ppv2 present ranking goes up, even if everyone plays map like score(50|50|50).
I think, maps only with one high category is more difficult than maps with three average categories.
I think that Tom also understands it, because he performed "Increase pp-value of scores which excel in one category".

Although I can understand, worth of maps like score(50|50|50) will be lost in case of the calculation method of tp.
Nonetheless, Tom should make ppv2 to the same calculation method as tp.
Or increase more pp-value of scores which excel in one category.

I cannot think that the present ranking is good.

Waiting for osuwiki "pp" artilcle...

Me too...
Does anybody know when will the winking article be available

Soon™

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Greetings all,

I was curious, while I love this new PP system alot, I was wondering if this was working as intended..

I played this 18 days ago and was extremely happy with it, gained a modest amount of PP etc...
I play that same map again a week and a half later (In a middle of a play session, so everything's updated)
After I complete it, I notice I drop alot of PP (relatively) and ~1k ranking positions, for a really minor change in overall accuracy, but better score achieved so it counts the second one. (And getting one off FC might not of helped)

Again, I play this map afew days ago after just downloading it
Happy days, gain alot of PP again.
Play it two days later, get 2 100's and a miss more then last, but hold 2 decent combos for a slightly higher score then above and I drop ~1k places and alot of PP again.

Is this just me being unlucky and playing beatmaps which have a very heavy accuracy rating, so a minor change effects PP gain hugely, or is it something else?

After talking about it with a friend, he seems to think that its my 'leaderboard PP' being recalculated from people beating my scores all over the place, despite having very few scores under 1k on the leaderboard, and im online when this recalculation happens. This would explain it for the second one, because I got rank 44 on a new beatmap 2 days ago (im now 314), but it still doesn't do much to explain the first one.

So. Am I just playing accuracy weighted maps and suffering a huge drop for a small drop in accuracy %, or are the few high-ranking scores I do have just being beaten alot recently thus the (big for me) drop in PP

Note: Rank isn't an issue, I can deal with that. I just feel that getting afew 100's more and getting a better score shouldn't just counteract 1-2+ hours playing, if I knew it'd drop that much, I'd of just reset out.... I have also read the thread (well, 90% of it) but my friend seems to insist that other people ranking higher then you drops your PP score for that song...

Nina_Winlan wrote:

After talking about it with a friend, he seems to think that its my 'leaderboard PP' being recalculated from people beating my scores all over the place, despite having very few scores under 1k on the leaderboard, and im online when this recalculation happens. This would explain it for the second one, because I got rank 44 on a new beatmap 2 days ago (im now 314), but it still doesn't do much to explain the first one.

So. Am I just playing accuracy weighted maps and suffering a huge drop for a small drop in accuracy %, or are the few high-ranking scores I do have just being beaten alot recently thus the (big for me) drop in PP

You lost pp because you replaced your records with worse ones. The score rank you get in each map doesn't matter.
Your maximum combo is the value that matters. One combo of 300 is worth more than 2 combos of 280.

@Tom: The system should only take into account your best performance on each map, not the best score.

Full Tablet wrote:

You lost pp because you replaced your records with worse ones. The score rank you get in each map doesn't matter.
Your maximum combo is the value that matters. One combo of 300 is worth more than 2 combos of 280.

So it was as I thought, that's kinda annoying, but thanks for the clarification.

[AirCoN] wrote:

@Tom: The system should only take into account your best performance on each map, not the best score.

As mentioned like a billion times already ( ) it's not possible to do this at the moment. I wish it was.

I just dont understand why my rank rose before the patch to 41k rank from 53k then after the patch my rank was risen to like 75k wat is this -_-

Kreto wrote:

I just dont understand why my rank rose before the patch to 41k rank from 53k then after the patch my rank was risen to like 75k wat is this -_-

Play Insanes then you understand ...

At your Playcount I was Rank 110k

And ye recalculating ...

Kreto wrote:

I just dont understand why my rank rose before the patch to 41k rank from 53k then after the patch my rank was risen to like 75k wat is this -_-

It was probably recalculating something. Judging by your Performance Graph you were actually at 75K the entire time.

Ekaru wrote:

Kreto wrote:

I just dont understand why my rank rose before the patch to 41k rank from 53k then after the patch my rank was risen to like 75k wat is this -_-

It was probably recalculating something. Judging by your Performance Graph you were actually at 75K the entire time.

i meant before patch V2 came out

Ultrayano wrote:

Kreto wrote:

I just dont understand why my rank rose before the patch to 41k rank from 53k then after the patch my rank was risen to like 75k wat is this -_-

Play Insanes then you understand ...

At your Playcount I was Rank 110k

And ye recalculating ...

my play count yea i know but i was higher rank and stuff just watneed to know why thx for the reply Insanes i do play some but not all plus i only use mouse no keyboard no tablet. Well since ur really good ^-^ gL in your ranking nice uh signature is it ^-^

Kreto wrote:

my play count yea i know but i was higher rank and stuff just watneed to know why thx for the reply Insanes i do play some but not all plus i only use mouse no keyboard no tablet. Well since ur really good ^-^ gL in your ranking nice uh signature is it ^-^

Only Mouse ? o.o Good Luck in your osu! career

And ~thanks~

Ultrayano wrote:

Kreto wrote:

my play count yea i know but i was higher rank and stuff just watneed to know why thx for the reply Insanes i do play some but not all plus i only use mouse no keyboard no tablet. Well since ur really good ^-^ gL in your ranking nice uh signature is it ^-^

Only Mouse ? o.o Good Luck in your osu! career

And ~thanks~

There are mouse only players better than you and I.

Myke B wrote:

There are mouse only players better than you and I.

I know (: Players like ChangE

Ultrayano wrote:

Kreto wrote:

Only Mouse ? o.o Good Luck in your osu! career

And ~thanks~

Mouse is more fun.

rexcannon_iii wrote:

Mouse is more fun.

"Fun" is subjective.

Stay on-topic, please. This thread is for pp feedback.

What kind of modifications are you still looking to do with the ranking system? assuming there are any.

Tom94 wrote:

Stay on-topic, please. This thread is for pp feedback.

Ok then, I'll ask again.

When are you going to implement complex finger work into the pp calculation?