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Purple
Congrats @ rrtyui

I have about 10+ full combos, yet half my top scores on my profile are B's and what-not. Even then my rank went up. Also, I have a couple of non-fc AR11 scores, which makes me thinks those give a significant amount of pp, but my AR11 FC's are nowhere to be seen, which is kinda of strange.

Edit: And I swear to god, Remote Control's difficulty is being overestimated a bit TOO much.
Kaoru
It's great so far and I'm sorry for making a fuss over it before. Guess I shoulda trusted peppy to deliver!

I'm just glad my rank isn't absolute shit. Maybe if I can get back into double digits on this system....

Now that we know he can actually release things, I'm eager to see the other things he has planned for the future of osu! He was excited about those, so I am too! :D

I feel like a kid though, complaining and making threads until things appear satisfactory. Apologies for all the fuss

And thanks for doing a good job peppy!
dukambe
Rank on user profile not the same as rank on performance page/country page, which i guess is because of some hidden players. (Example: dragonhuman #8 and #4 country on profile, #6 on performance and #2 on country page)

Also what happens if i get a higher performance on a song where i already had a ranking. Just for example if i have HD+HR on Remote Control and then DT fc it, would the DT fc count?
Purple

dukambe wrote:

Rank on user profile not the same as rank on performance page/country page, which i guess is because of some hidden players. (Example: dragonhuman #8 and #4 country on profile, #6 on performance and #2 on country page)

Also what happens if i get a higher performance on a song where i already had a ranking. Just for example if i have HD+HR on Remote Control and then DT fc it, would the DT fc count?
Only if you beat your old score
Soarezi

dukambe wrote:

Rank on user profile not the same as rank on performance page/country page, which i guess is because of some hidden players. (Example: dragonhuman #8 and #4 country on profile, #6 on performance and #2 on country page)

Also what happens if i get a higher performance on a song where i already had a ranking. Just for example if i have HD+HR on Remote Control and then DT fc it, would the DT fc count?
no if you dont pass your hd hr score
dukambe
Well, imo it should count, but sucks for the HD+HR players i guess..
Soarezi

dukambe wrote:

Well, imo it should count, but sucks for the HD+HR players i guess..
i doubt any of the current hd hr players on remote control could dt fc it anyways
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Tom94

dukambe wrote:

Rank on user profile not the same as rank on performance page/country page, which i guess is because of some hidden players. (Example: dragonhuman #8 and #4 country on profile, #6 on performance and #2 on country page)

Also what happens if i get a higher performance on a song where i already had a ranking. Just for example if i have HD+HR on Remote Control and then DT fc it, would the DT fc count?
The rank which has a higher score will count, that is the one which will end up marked as your best in the ingame scoreboard.
Sayuki
The new performance ranking is better than the old. Finally we have a good ranking.
Kaoru

Tom94 wrote:

dukambe wrote:

Rank on user profile not the same as rank on performance page/country page, which i guess is because of some hidden players. (Example: dragonhuman #8 and #4 country on profile, #6 on performance and #2 on country page)

Also what happens if i get a higher performance on a song where i already had a ranking. Just for example if i have HD+HR on Remote Control and then DT fc it, would the DT fc count?
The rank which has a higher score will count, that is the one which will end up marked as your best in the ingame scoreboard.
Silynn had a feature request for wiping scores intentionally, so that you could outrank yourself with better mods. I think score is still a really deprecated metric and shouldn't really be favored in situations outside of tournament play. It could make ppv2 a little more accurate if you chose to rank scores that way
Purple

dukambe wrote:

Well, imo it should count, but sucks for the HD+HR players i guess..
Thats entirely what HD is for. HR not enough to surpass HD plays? Use HDHR. DT not enough to surpass HDHR? Use DTHD.
Senryakku
I feel like there is some sort of justice with this update
dukambe

Soarezi wrote:

dukambe wrote:

Well, imo it should count, but sucks for the HD+HR players i guess..
i doubt any of the current hd hr players on remote control could dt fc it anyways
That was just an extreme example, i guess it makes more sense if for example i have a normal FC on a song and then DT fc with slider break or 1 miss which is worth alot more in PP but less in score. So isn't that weird that the "better" performance score isn't counted because the "worse" score is worth more? Would make more sense to just use one ranking (PP) for everything.

Edit: And if WWW had fcd Remote Control with HR/HD/Normal before, his DT score would never have counted, which is now his #1 performance.
Spyrunite
So to me it seems the way you would "grind" ppv2 is by getting full combo on fast, insane maps. That seems fairly good to me, something actually skillful being judged.
Kert
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/269963?m=0 - random DT gives more points than
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/96095?m=0 with HR

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/49067?m=0 gives way too much points, cosnsidering it's a lot easier than any of the above

In general I feel that DT gives qute a lot more than it should and HR on really small circles isn't as rewarding

And also FL?
FL is not favoured at all?
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18156 - this must be one of my top plays, yet it's nowhere close
(my assumption is results are ordered almost in the same way as in tp)
nya10
It seems right to me, if I'm seeing my country top ranks. Well done :D

Also my top performance now seems right, not silly hard or normal there anymore :D
*FC'ed artcore jinja lunatic and didn't get pp seems wrong to me before*
Ziggo

Kert wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/269963?m=0 - random DT gives more points than
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/96095?m=0 with HR

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/49067?m=0 gives way too much points, cosnsidering it's a lot easier than any of the above

In general I feel that DT gives qute a lot more than it should and HR on really small circles isn't as rewarding

And also FL?
FL is not favoured at all?
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18156 - this must be one of my top plays, yet it's nowhere close
(my assumption is results are ordered almost in the same way as in tp)
I agree to everything you've said. Also, I believe the actual rank of a score should be considered as well. This would indirectly increase the value of mods like FL and getting good accuracy on maps with complicated patterns.
Sync
well I'll be damned.

Nice to know you guys are collaborating!
TheLukay
i lost a shitload of ranks an my best performances are some weird stuff but nvm ._.
Myke B
gogo remote control~ :P
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