1. Hard (2.18 stars, 248 notes)
2. Normal (1.5 stars, 141 notes)

Sky Trias wrote:

Hey .. From #Modreqs

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1. 00:21:073 (5) - Repeat ? Hm, no I want some gaps in the rhythm
2. 00:30:250 - add a note ^
3. 01:05:897 (2,3) - Ctrl + G and 01:06:603 (3,4) - Ctrl + G ? That's cause an anti jump xD
4. 02:17:191 (2) - move this to 02:16:838 Yeah I've done this ^^
5. 02:17:897 - add a note Done

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  All Good

Hope This helping you , And GL

1. 01:19:309 (8) - imo finish at end works better than at 01:20:897 (1) -
2. 01:58:838 (7) - long combo, cut it here?
3. 02:39:779 (5) - same thought about finish
4. *sniff

1. 00:35:191 (2) - look not perfect lol how abt this?
2. 01:20:720 (6) - well I think you know
3. 01:49:661 (6,1) - how about this?
4. 01:54:250 (4) - delete note?
5. 02:16:838 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern makes me feel kinda lost, how about making 02:17:897 (3,4) - into a slider, and then a slider at 02:18:956 (4) - ?

kazumikos wrote:

Nice song, modding this at night... it feels like a party

[Hard]

1. 01:19:309 (8) - imo finish at end works better than at 01:20:897 (1) - Not sure I agree but I'll think about it xD
2. 01:58:838 (7) - long combo, cut it here? Yep, done
3. 02:39:779 (5) - same thought about finish I'm thinking! xD
4. *sniff

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1. 00:35:191 (2) - look not perfect lol how abt this? I tried but just send me the .osu =P
2. 01:20:720 (6) - well I think you know I do
3. 01:49:661 (6,1) - how about this? Done something similar
4. 01:54:250 (4) - delete note? Nahhh
5. 02:16:838 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern makes me feel kinda lost, how about making 02:17:897 (3,4) - into a slider, and then a slider at 02:18:956 (4) - ?[/color] Okay did a different pattern

All are just suggestions. Your map is too good already >_>

1. 00:26:720 (2) - I'm sure you are missing add finish in end slider, because I can see you have done other pattern hitsound example 00:18:250 (2), so I think this is missing. Also there melody very high that I can hear
2. 00:55:309 (1) - missing add clap in start slider but finish stay is same I explain was 00:26:720 (2)
3. 01:03:779 (1) - ^ same
4. 01:12:250 (1) - ^ same
5. 01:25:132 (b) - missing add break ? like hard ?
6. 01:56:720 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider and clap in end
7. 02:00:956 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider

1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - just sugeestion Can you better blanket ? like this this http://puu.sh/bRayc/6c3fe98e48.jpg is better than this blanket IMO
2. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do....

1. I feel the Od could be -1 is more better than +1 ÎMO

1. 00:29:897 (1) - missing add finish in end slider, you did before pattern and other diff's
2. 01:41:897 (1) - I feel, in start, really need add clap, there melody and piano are really high, could be add clap in start
3. 01:52:485 (3) - Missing add clap in start slider, because pattern before have done and this don't have, so I think you missing this one
4. 02:02:367 (5) - missing add clap is same I did explain before like 01:52:485 (3) and normal diff

1. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do.... (same normal)
2. 00:46:838 (7,1) - could be put new combo color in (7) and remove in (1) because, in 00:46:838 I feel melody and piano is change so is better a lot
3. 01:41:191 (4,5,1) - the (5) is really don't fit with this music, the melody is kindy super weak Can't hear that IMO, so (4,5,1) need change ryhthm part, for better this http://puu.sh/bRfzC/09c341a806.jpg or remove note that (5) or change you own IMO

Pereira006 wrote:

I didn't notice bancho is back lol and HI!!!!!!!!!!

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hitsound:

1. 00:26:720 (2) - I'm sure you are missing add finish in end slider, because I can see you have done other pattern hitsound example 00:18:250 (2), so I think this is missing. Also there melody very high that I can hear Fixed
2. 00:55:309 (1) - missing add clap in start slider but finish stay is same I explain was 00:26:720 (2) I've decided to remove the clap from the finish so this is consistent now
3. 01:03:779 (1) - ^ same ^
4. 01:12:250 (1) - ^ same ^
5. 01:25:132 (b) - missing add break ? like hard ? Fixed, added break
6. 01:56:720 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider and clap in end For emphasis I've decided to add finish and whistle at the start for this kiai part; the end is missing a clap so I can emphasize the next note (if that makes sense lol)
7. 02:00:956 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider Done, I haven't added a finish to 02:02:367 (3) - because I think it's too much

Gameplay:

1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - just sugeestion Can you better blanket ? like this this http://puu.sh/bRayc/6c3fe98e48.jpg is better than this blanket IMO Done
2. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do.... Why not xD

[Hard]
Song setup

1. I feel the Od could be -1 is more better than +1 ÎMO Yeah, -1 OD done

Hitsound:

1. 00:29:897 (1) - missing add finish in end slider, you did before pattern and other diff's Added finish at the end
2. 01:41:897 (1) - I feel, in start, really need add clap, there melody and piano are really high, could be add clap in start Done
3. 01:52:485 (3) - Missing add clap in start slider, because pattern before have done and this don't have, so I think you missing this one Added
4. 02:02:367 (5) - missing add clap is same I did explain before like 01:52:485 (3) and normal diff Wasn't 100% sure on this one but I guess it works so added

Gameplay:

1. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do.... (same normal) Done
2. 00:46:838 (7,1) - could be put new combo color in (7) and remove in (1) because, in 00:46:838 I feel melody and piano is change so is better a lot Done
3. 01:41:191 (4,5,1) - the (5) is really don't fit with this music, the melody is kindy super weak Can't hear that IMO, so (4,5,1) need change ryhthm part, for better this http://puu.sh/bRfzC/09c341a806.jpg or remove note that (5) or change you own IMO I think this is fine because it fits the rhythm well and even though the melody is weak it's still there xD

The gameplay is really good and just suggestion, but hitsound is high suggestion so you better check carefully, is just missing your pattern
Any question ask me
I wish good luck your map

1. Be sure to delete the .osb in the folder, since you are not using one
2. A song like this doesn't really need a kiai IMO. Just makes a calm song look flashy and it doesn't quite sit right with me

1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - The spacing is a bit too large here to be in the easiest difficulty. Lower the spacing to be consistent with the other patterns (1.40x). You can also make a perfect blanket out of the slider, it would make the pattern more clean IMO
2. 00:10:838 (3,4) - Opportunity to make a perfect blanket here if you so chose. You can use 4's approach circle to assist you with this
3. 00:21:073 (5) - I think tacking a clap at the end of this slider would be appropriate to the music
4. 00:22:132 (1,2,3) - Maybe you can squeeze by with this one, but tbh I feel like these are a bit too far apart spacing wise
5. 00:31:661 (2) - Same clap suggestion as 00:21:073 (5) -, a clap on the end would work well
6. 01:03:779 (1,2,3) - Neat pattern here! Stuff like this I can appreciate
7. 01:20:897 (1) - I'd recommend moving this spinner to 01:21:073. Gives newer players time to react to the spinner as well as giving a nice audio cue
8. 01:43:309 (3,4) - The spacing between these objects is too large. To fix this I'd recommend you making a perfect blanket pattern with 01:41:897 (1,2,3) - and it should end out with 1.4x spacing
9. 01:46:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stacking may not be the best idea. With this bpm and AR this could be slightly hard to read for newer players. This is a cool pattern though, and honestly I don't really mind so its up to you here
10. 02:23:544 (4,5) - These are a bit too close and 02:23:897 (5,1) - these are a bit too far
11. 02:24:250 (1,2) - Another pattern that could really benefit from reduced spacing. 1.56x is way too much

1. 01:33:426 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - This was really cool, I miss patterns like these

Lust wrote:

double post because why the hell not

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1. Be sure to delete the .osb in the folder, since you are not using one Done
2. A song like this doesn't really need a kiai IMO. Just makes a calm song look flashy and it doesn't quite sit right with me Well if the song is to have kiai that's the best place imo, so I thought about it and played with it both on and off and I think I agree with you so I removed the kiai =P

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Pretty diff! Most of this is just consistent spacing errors that should be ironed out especially when taking into consideration that this is the lowest diff

1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - The spacing is a bit too large here to be in the easiest difficulty. Lower the spacing to be consistent with the other patterns (1.40x). You can also make a perfect blanket out of the slider, it would make the pattern more clean IMO Snapped with x1.4, I think I improved the blanket not sure lol
2. 00:10:838 (3,4) - Opportunity to make a perfect blanket here if you so chose. You can use 4's approach circle to assist you with this I think I improved it
3. 00:21:073 (5) - I think tacking a clap at the end of this slider would be appropriate to the music Done
4. 00:22:132 (1,2,3) - Maybe you can squeeze by with this one, but tbh I feel like these are a bit too far apart spacing wise I resnapped it with x1.4
5. 00:31:661 (2) - Same clap suggestion as 00:21:073 (5) -, a clap on the end would work well Done
6. 01:03:779 (1,2,3) - Neat pattern here! Stuff like this I can appreciate Thanks ^^
7. 01:20:897 (1) - I'd recommend moving this spinner to 01:21:073. Gives newer players time to react to the spinner as well as giving a nice audio cue Okay I've changed this and 02:03:250 (1) - and I've also changed it on Hard
8. 01:43:309 (3,4) - The spacing between these objects is too large. To fix this I'd recommend you making a perfect blanket pattern with 01:41:897 (1,2,3) - and it should end out with 1.4x spacing I've reduced the spacing a little but it was pretty much at x1.4 already, any closer and I feel the pattern will be really ugly and harder to read / play. Hopefully the blanket has been improved a little too
9. 01:46:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stacking may not be the best idea. With this bpm and AR this could be slightly hard to read for newer players. This is a cool pattern though, and honestly I don't really mind so its up to you here I think it should be manageable since the rhythm is straight forward the only other stack in the map is also 1/1, that and I wanted to move away from a triangle pattern like 00:46:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here
10. 02:23:544 (4,5) - These are a bit too close and 02:23:897 (5,1) - these are a bit too far Fixed
11. 02:24:250 (1,2) - Another pattern that could really benefit from reduced spacing. 1.56x is way too much I fixed this while doing the last one, it should all be x1.4 now

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Really clean and neat looking hard. Nothing really to say here!

1. 01:33:426 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - This was really cool, I miss patterns like these Thanks
   
   Only thing I've changed in Hard is that spinner I mentioned in Normal 01:21:073 (1) -

Call me back!

1. Consider decreasing the BG's filesize? 825 KB seems to be very bloated for a background file, IMO...
2. Use a custom silenced soft-sliderslide for the entire song? The current slider slide's sound is unfitting with how calm the song is, so it'd be better if the soft-sliderslide were silenced. Use the silent hitsound file in the Ranking Criteria wiki page for this!
3. Try 240ms for the offset (-10ms from the current one)? The objects seem to be a little off overall, IMO.
4. 02:11:544 - 02:49:661 - Would be cool to add a (or keep the, based of what I've seen from Lust's mod) kiai time here since the music does get stronger there. Up to you, though, since this is indeed a calm song, but the increase of the power in the music here is noticeable.

1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - Uh, what are you trying to make, exactly? If you want to make a blanket, it can be done better. Right now, it looks kinda weird. (While we're here, some blankets are off in this diff, and probably the Hard diff too. Review every blanket pattern please!)
2. 00:19:309 - Not sure why would you place a finish here... The instrument that plays on this tick doesn't even resemble a cymbal. Try removing the cymbal and use a whistle instead. That fits way better. (Applies for similar cases.)
3. 02:23:897 (5,1) - Try to make (5) follow (1)'s curve as if you're making a blanket pattern by moving (1) to (120,352)? That'd look nicer.

1. 00:39:073 (1,2,3) - Umm, I know it isn't that noticeable, but the spacing is inconsistent, and I don't think the inconsistency is necessary for any reason here.
2. 02:28:485 (1) - Don't you think it'd flow better if the slider was made to be like this? But okay, this'll break the flow (a little) to 02:29:191 (2) so you might have to readjust the notes a little.

Hinsvar wrote:

Ugh, I know this will happen.

I would let this map pass and rank it if it was so perfect I can't mention any problem. The problem is... there are a few right now. With such a low amount of feedback, and since I can still see some room for improvement (although admittedly not much, but it's there), I would like to hear a little more opinion. I don't ask much because I do know and realize the map's quality, but I still ask because it can be made a little better before bubbling.

EDIT: Posted this before I saw Lust's post. No, I'm not doing this because of the bonus. I know that the stuff I mentioned was pretty minor, and some might even seem to be extremely trivial, but I can still see this improved a little. I'm not trying to say that it's wrong for you to bubble this by popping your bubble, but I believe this can be better.

And uh, I asked Natsu and Lexia's opinion before doing this just to make sure. This is not based on my belief alone.

I'm sorry for causing you guys to lash out and rant at me. It's okay anyway; don't worry.

Hinsvar wrote:

Hello! Random bubble check.

...I am honestly not sure if this should be bubbled right now, though. The map can be slightly be more polished. It is pretty okay-ish as is, and definitely rankable, but the amount of mods is too low for a bubbled map.

No, I am not saying that mod amount correlates to the quality of the modded map, but it'd be nice to get more opinions before this is bubbled, right? This looks pretty rushed to me, honestly. But what you're practically saying is the number of mods correlates to the quality of a map in a roundabout way lol

Well, after saying that, let's begin the mod.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>General

1. Consider decreasing the BG's filesize? 825 KB seems to be very bloated for a background file, IMO... Is it important? I don't want to compress the image to make it look worse and it's not that big imo
2. Use a custom silenced soft-sliderslide for the entire song? The current slider slide's sound is unfitting with how calm the song is, so it'd be better if the soft-sliderslide were silenced. Use the silent hitsound file in the Ranking Criteria wiki page for this! Okay I checked with a few people and the response was split so I'm going to keep it as is. I am using a soft-sliderslide and after using a silent one it makes the ticks feels very exposed so I'd have to lower the tick volume too. Normal starts to sound considerably worse imo because it feels something is missing. I see where you are coming from but I don't think it's necessary and it's personal preference really...
3. Try 240ms for the offset (-10ms from the current one)? The objects seem to be a little off overall, IMO. If I -10 on the offset it feels more off to me, I'll leave this as it is
4. 02:11:544 - 02:49:661 - Would be cool to add a (or keep the, based of what I've seen from Lust's mod) kiai time here since the music does get stronger there. Up to you, though, since this is indeed a calm song, but the increase of the power in the music here is noticeable. Hm, no I've thought about this since Lust's mod and I've decided to keep the kiai removed

>Normal

1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - Uh, what are you trying to make, exactly? If you want to make a blanket, it can be done better. Right now, it looks kinda weird. (While we're here, some blankets are off in this diff, and probably the Hard diff too. Review every blanket pattern please!) It's a slider and a circle? I wasn't trying to make a blanket (I think it must come across that I always am lol) and I like it how it is. My thinking is that if all the sliders in the diff were the same and intended to make blankets it would get boring pretty quick. But if there's any particular blanket you want me to look at let me know
2. 00:19:309 - Not sure why would you place a finish here... The instrument that plays on this tick doesn't even resemble a cymbal. Try removing the cymbal and use a whistle instead. That fits way better. (Applies for similar cases.) Unfortunately I don't agree, the finish adds variation to the hitsounds and adds a kick to the end of the slider. Too much whistle would get annoying imo
3. 02:23:897 (5,1) - Try to make (5) follow (1)'s curve as if you're making a blanket pattern by moving (1) to (120,352)? That'd look nicer. Well moving (5) makes 02:22:485 (3,4,5,1) - like a failed triangle pattern. That, and I don't want to create a blanket lol

>Hard

1. 00:39:073 (1,2,3) - Umm, I know it isn't that noticeable, but the spacing is inconsistent, and I don't think the inconsistency is necessary for any reason here. Hm, it's mostly x1.4... and any spacing change is minor... so what do you mean exactly? If you mean 00:40:485 (3) - then it's there so it's in the same place as 00:39:073 (1) - started in and that's intentional.
2. 02:28:485 (1) - Don't you think it'd flow better if the slider was made to be like this? But okay, this'll break the flow (a little) to 02:29:191 (2) so you might have to readjust the notes a little I don't agree with this because as you said it'd break the flow..

So yeah, this is a pretty simple and nice map (not that there's anything bad with it), but I'd like to see more feedback on the quality of this map in the form of mods from experienced modders, preferably around 2-3 or so, and of course preferably detailed and helpful ones. It's pretty much okay to bubble at this state, but it'd be nicer to see opinions from more people. Also, the blanket patterns can still be improved; that's a problem that appears a lot throughout the mapset. Are you trying to imply the people who modded it are not experienced? I don't think that's fair. Who would you consider an experienced modder? I'm confused by this. Although it may not appear this way I did ask quite a lot of people to mod it, some posted, some didn't, some ignored me; I can't help that and I can't look for mods 24/7. If it wasn't for Lust (thanks Lust!) I think I'd have hit a brick wall with this map lol. As for blanket patterns you're going to have to be specific because as I said I may not have even been intending to make a blanket

I hope you don't feel annoyed by this (sorry if you do), but I'd just like to make sure we don't rush things...

Get back to me once you're done with the mods (and make sure you do it before November 29th). Why November 29th? I think finding 2-3 mods from "experienced modders" in a week would be difficult.

Good luck on the way!

1. Remove the countdown? I don't think its neccessary here. (or tell me its intended, I personally don't think countdown is good here)
2. There is no SB in this map? why is tbe Widescreen support enabled here, please remove it.
3. Colors 1 and 3 look awfully similar, I wish you could change combo color 3, its really bad on the eyes.
4. Add 2000 Audio-leadin for both diffs, there not enough (and just to be safe)
   Note : Make sure you do it for all difficulties.

1. 00:41:191 (5,6) - This kinda breaks the whole pattern here, I would or really liked it if you could of continued that up and down motion without stacking, I think this is better : http://puu.sh/d1eYo.jpg
   
2. 01:15:073 (3) - Oh these kinds of back and forth patterns aren't a safe pick for normal players, I would think it'll be much better if you overlapped them to make them more visible.
   
   
3. 01:44:720 (5) - Oh nvm, they should be okay!
   
4. 01:51:779 (2) - Don't stack them here? and place it directly above the previous note? it would make a nice pattern and prevent some confusion since you never used stacks before.

1. 
   
2. 02:39:073 (4) - Sorry, but this definintely needs to be overlapped a little bit, maybe move this farther to the left.

Tari wrote:

[General]

1. Remove the countdown? I don't think its neccessary here. (or tell me its intended, I personally don't think countdown is good here) Removed countdown
2. There is no SB in this map? why is tbe Widescreen support enabled here, please remove it. Removed from Normal, not sure why that was there
3. Colors 1 and 3 look awfully similar, I wish you could change combo color 3, its really bad on the eyes. I've added more color to Combo 3, it should be less harsh on the eyes but I do like it and this is the first complaint I've had so I'd like to keep this similar color if possible xD
4. Add 2000 Audio-leadin for both diffs, there not enough (and just to be safe) Added manually via .osu (when did they remove it from editor?)
   Note : Make sure you do it for all difficulties.

[Normal]

1. 00:41:191 (5,6) - This kinda breaks the whole pattern here, I would or really liked it if you could of continued that up and down motion without stacking, I think this is better : http://puu.sh/d1eYo.jpg Well that breaks my pattern, I was rotating them by 32 degrees xD
   
2. 01:15:073 (3) - Oh these kinds of back and forth patterns aren't a safe pick for normal players, I would think it'll be much better if you overlapped them to make them more visible. Hm I think they are easily visible, the song is slow and the AR is not so high. I don't think new player will have difficulties with this because it's clear where to go.
   
   
3. 01:44:720 (5) - Oh nvm, they should be okay! ^^
   
4. 01:51:779 (2) - Don't stack them here? and place it directly above the previous note? it would make a nice pattern and prevent some confusion since you never used stacks before. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here; if you mean placing 01:51:779 (2) - above 01:50:367 (1) - then I don't think it plays very well and also looks bad. I did stack at 01:46:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so the stack should be okay?

[Hard]

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2. 02:39:073 (4) - Sorry, but this definintely needs to be overlapped a little bit, maybe move this farther to the left. Hm, I don't see the problem with this. Moving it left looks ugly as it's supposed to be in the same place as 02:37:661 (2) - I don't think there should be a problem with reading the the approach circle or seeing where to go because the AR is 7 and the song is slow

Nice job. really clean

Tari wrote:

One last note on Hard :


02:31:661 (8) - Totally a no no for me, at least make them overlap slightly.
02:39:073 (4) - Same here. make them overlap.