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Someone please explain to me how to play high-velocity sliders

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Voidedosu
3,105 posts
Joined June 2016
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Voidedosu
A map like this (KAEDE [Skystar's EX]) makes absolutely no sense to me. The sliders are way too damn fast for me to even follow, and I don't even understand how I'm supposed to play it since I imagine trying to play it like Auto is at best impractical for a human to try.

So please, for this map and any others like it, how do I play them? And I do mean for the purposes of SS-ing, obviously, not just passing and accepting slider-end misses. That can fly on higher SR maps, but not for shit at the "3-4*" level (seriously, how maps like this stayed in high 3*/mid 4* is beyond me...)
nominomu
683 posts
Joined June 2022
nominomu
either you cheese it or you attempt to have extreme aim control and aim the entire slider, a lot of the reverse sliders in that map seem cheeseable by moving your cursor to the 'middle' of the slider

also, if youre trying to ss all ranked 4*s... well good luck on this beatmapsets/1296266#osu/2689496
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii
You have to cheese these if you can't hit them, that's what everyone do lol
FetherFall
31 posts
Joined October 2019
FetherFall
Sliders can be really tricky to hit, don't worry!

They can be really complicated to play, but the vast majority of fast sliders only require a few things to keep in mind in order to SS:

-You have to hit the start of the slider to not combobreak, regardless of where the actual sliderball is. For example, if you were late on this slider in the map you mentioned, here's how you should start it.

-If there's sliderticks or a reverse arrow, your cursor has to be hovering over it when the actual sliderball passes by. Mafham has a great example of this with his notch hell play: here

-If you watched the video, you'll notice that he gets a ton of 100s on the sliders. That's because he didn't catch any sliderends. For those, you need to move your cursor to little bit before the actual end of the slider (~30ms before). This is meant to be for aim leniency reasons when you're a newer player. Realistically, this means that on fast sliders you want to aim a little bit before the actual end of the slider, and you'll pick up an intuition for where these slider ends are over time. example on the same slider
kaedori
319 posts
Joined September 2018
kaedori
if you're frustrated at not being able to ss a low 4* map, remember that the star rating system isn't perfect and it will improve over time. hopefully this map will be buffed in star rating

but as you've probably heard time and time over you will eventually be able to hit this if you just play more

(also if you're going for every 4* ss, you wouldn't have any fun on tsurupettan. ranking at an extremely high 4.5 stars, it has no nomod fc's, not to mention any ss's)
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Indomi-chan
1,370 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan
factal - Flux
this map appeared in spotlights and I was like wtf are tech maps in the spotlights, and now I'm grinding that tech map for many months lol (just in case you don't know it has fast sliders and some buzz sliders which is why you see me dropping most sliderends even though it's FC)
nominomu
683 posts
Joined June 2022
nominomu

kaedori wrote:

(also if you're going for every 4* ss, you wouldn't have any fun on tsurupettan. ranking at an extremely high 4.5 stars, it has no nomod fc's, not to mention any ss's)
6.42* local lmao, at least its od0
Indomi-chan
1,370 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan

nominomu wrote:

kaedori wrote:

(also if you're going for every 4* ss, you wouldn't have any fun on tsurupettan. ranking at an extremely high 4.5 stars, it has no nomod fc's, not to mention any ss's)
6.42* local lmao, at least its od0
good luck for cs10
Laskerf
102 posts
Joined March 2021
Laskerf
I think the star rating system treats sliders like jumps between sliderhead and sliderend/reverse arrow... so this map is very underweighted because every fast slider has sliderend and reverse arrow really close to the sliderhead regardless of the actual path you have to take (the game thinks you are doing really small jumps even if the slider is really big).

It is not a real 4 star map, those have dt fcs!
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Happy Satoko
280 posts
Joined November 2019
Happy Satoko
Unfortunately for you, you kinda get better at weird sliders by playing even harder weird sliders. I'd be surprised if you ever get it just retrying for SS, especially that map in particular. If you try for SS on maps like these instead of moving on, they're all you're going to be playing until you're so mindblocked on these patterns that who knows if you'll ever get it.
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

thetm wrote:

nominomu wrote:

kaedori wrote:

(also if you're going for every 4* ss, you wouldn't have any fun on tsurupettan. ranking at an extremely high 4.5 stars, it has no nomod fc's, not to mention any ss's)
6.42* local lmao, at least its od0
good luck for cs10
CS10?! I thought that the maximum value was CS7
Indomi-chan
1,370 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan

Anaxii wrote:

thetm wrote:

nominomu wrote:

kaedori wrote:

(also if you're going for every 4* ss, you wouldn't have any fun on tsurupettan. ranking at an extremely high 4.5 stars, it has no nomod fc's, not to mention any ss's)
6.42* local lmao, at least its od0
good luck for cs10
CS10?! I thought that the maximum value was CS7
cs0-cs10 can be set in the editor
UPR
722 posts
Joined October 2018
UPR
>Weird slidermap
>A guest diff on a Hollow Wing set
moment
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

thetm wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

thetm wrote:

nominomu wrote:

kaedori wrote:

(also if you're going for every 4* ss, you wouldn't have any fun on tsurupettan. ranking at an extremely high 4.5 stars, it has no nomod fc's, not to mention any ss's)
6.42* local lmao, at least its od0
good luck for cs10
CS10?! I thought that the maximum value was CS7
cs0-cs10 can be set in the editor
How
bathbombman
85 posts
Joined January 2022
bathbombman

Anaxii wrote:

How
You have to edit the .osu as they used to be unrankable
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

bathbombman wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

How
You have to edit the .osu as they used to be unrankable
Ohhh alright, I can understand why it's not directly in the editor lol
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