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is relax good for aim

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loserotaku
my normal aim level is around high 4* - low 5*.but with relax i can play up to low 6* and get decent misscounts on them. ive gotten unranked top plays including a 99% 2xmiss choke on armins make a move. will pushing relax aim make my normal aim better (i tap while playing relax because it helps me get into the rhythm of the song
anaxii
Pro tip: Never play with relax if you want to improve your aim
WitherMite
If you miss on a map with RX you are nowhere near actually being able to play it tbh.
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loserotaku

WitherMite wrote:

If you miss on a map with RX you are nowhere near actually being able to play it tbh.
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Nanofranne
I think you much better play maps which you can get close to FC or pass it with higher acc rather than use relax. It'll build consistency, even with tv sized as you can play tons of them, and forge your muscle memory
anaxii
Relax is trash for aim
Fxjlk
Playing relax is the worst thing you can do for your aim. All you need to hit a note is to hover over it for a split second.

This does not teach you real aim because you don't read the hit timing of the note. You can move your aim very early after one note and then aim very late to another note straight after. This massively extends the time you have to aim these notes and makes it way easier to aim than in reality.

Relax teaches your brain bad habits because it makes aiming out of synch with tapping a GOOD thing. It deludes you into thinking you can aim better than you actually can. In reality (without relax) if you move your aim very early from one note and then very late to another note straight after, you are almost guaranteed to miss. With relax you are guaranteed to hit it.

Aim doesn't exist in this game without tapping and vice versa. Relax aim is nothing like real aim.
Happy Satoko
I'm a bit contrarian in this, I guess. For raw aim and pattern recognition in very dense maps/EZ, I think it can be helpful, if you're playing things with relax that you otherwise couldn't play at all. Of course it's not the same as playing normally, and if you only play relax for too long, it'll take a few weeks to adjust back to playing normally. But I don't think it's harmful, the worst thing for your aim, etc. Just don't confuse your relax skill for your vanilla skill, they're separate, and don't play it too much. And if you're going for improving specifically relax scores, consider 100s as misses, as they suggest an aim problem. I think tapping at the same time is probably a bad idea, though. You'll get feedback suggesting you're tapping on-time even when you're not, it could mess up your rhythm sense and I think it counteracts any positives you'd get out of playing difficult maps with relax.

I played a lot of relax in my first year playing more seriously, and I still play it occasionally. I feel it helped me to find difficult/"legendary" maps less intimidating when I could finally try them for real, helped my reading, and helped me get physically used to higher spacing.

I feel when people think of relax, they think of a scenario like someone practicing a PP farm map with relax thinking they'll get it in vanilla if they practice it enough that way. They're right that in that scenario, it isn't going to help you much. But if you take the opportunity to use relax to get used to legendary, weird, funky, and fun maps, to experiment with mods, and just have fun playing things you can't otherwise play, I think there's benefit.

If you jump up a few SR from what you can normally FC (when I was FCing 3* and 4*, I played relax on 6* and 7*), none of the relax "bad habits" like round aim and aiming too quickly really transfer over if you're playing it in moderation. With relax, you'll be able to focus fully on how to interpret the more complex patterns, read them faster if necessary, and how to comfortably get your cursor from point A to point B, which helps in your vanilla play.

(Sorry for all the edits, ADHD)
Jangsoodlor

Anaxii wrote:

Pro tip: Never play with relax if you want to improve your aim
MrSparklepants
No, I did this when I was a 6 digit and it completely ruined my tapping and aiming sync at the time.

Now if you only play it occasionally for fun then it's no problem.
Naiad
Not really because it encourages flinging your cursor and overaiming, because as long as your cursor is over it on your way to overaiming or on the way back to another note, you will hit it. Basically it's a different form of aim than is used in standard gameplay.
anaxii
Relax is bad
DM FOR MUTUAL
Apparently this guy got good by grinding relax lol



at 3:19
anaxii

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Apparently this guy got good by grinding relax lol



at 3:19
He didn't get good by grinding relax, he got good by playing AR11 maps

It's not the same thing bruh
kaedori

Anaxii wrote:

Pro tip: Never play with relax if you want to improve your aim
Happy Satoko

Anaxii wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Apparently this guy got good by grinding relax lol



at 3:19
He didn't get good by grinding relax, he got good by playing AR11 maps

It's not the same thing bruh
Sure, maybe with this guy in particular, but it's not like there aren't high rank players that say playing relax helped them improve. And every time, people rush to try to make them clarify that it didn't really actually help them bc the hate for relax reaches NPC levels. If you just told some people that stream maps are bad for improvement because if you play stream maps, your skill will get worse in everything else, they'd seriously swear off of them and make sure everyone knows. Like, of course if you never practice properly snapping your aim and never practice tapping, you'll get worse at it. That doesn't make relax a bad mod any more than getting worse at jump aim from playing stream maps make stream maps a bad genre. There are so many factors involved in aim and you can isolate a lot of them with relax. It's just about consciously putting in the effort to practice properly.
Indomi-chan
tl;dr: relax isn't good for aim because you don't sync in your tapping
anaxii

thetm wrote:

tl;dr: relax isn't good for aim because you don't sync in your tapping
HERE'S THE TRUTH
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