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Suzuyu - Mezameta Asa ni wa Kimi ga Tonari ni (TV Size)

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Frostmourne
I personally oppose the new timing and going to reasoning as to the old timing really off?

I take a hear closer on somewhere like 01:12:147 (1,2,3) - on this new timing and this is really off.
It does lie on vocal quite correctly but the way hitsound usage mainly hits on the heavy beat as in a normal hit, it is pretty much off by -20 to -30 in this whole section. no, probably the whole mapset.

I re-downloaded the mp3 to make sure and it still is. It might just be me though but I would like to question as to follow the timing base on vocal which is really softer than the heavy beat like a normal hit suitable?

Following heavy beat makes more sense because they come along more consistently constant while vocal following can fluctuate more than usual as human voice can never be more constant than electrical instrument.
Chewin

Frostmourne wrote:

I take a hear closer on somewhere like 01:12:147 (1,2,3) - on this new timing and this is really off.
It does lie on vocal quite correctly but the way hitsound usage mainly hits on the heavy beat as in a normal hit, it is pretty much off by -20 to -30 in this whole section. no, probably the whole mapset.
Hi. I'd appreciate if you read my post as well.
Frostmourne

Chewin wrote:

Frostmourne wrote:

I take a hear closer on somewhere like 01:12:147 (1,2,3) - on this new timing and this is really off.
It does lie on vocal quite correctly but the way hitsound usage mainly hits on the heavy beat as in a normal hit, it is pretty much off by -20 to -30 in this whole section. no, probably the whole mapset.
Hi. I'd appreciate if you read my post as well.
Thank you for clarifying that one! I am opposing the way Ike's timing is used for this one as it currently is. (The mapper didn't update so I took it from the current one)

However, I still feel the first offset needs a bit tweaking as the 2nd and the rest after it are applied. It could be around +5 or +10
I focused on around 00:31:014 (9) - though
Chewin

Frostmourne wrote:

Thank you for clarifying the correct one! I am opposing the way Ike's timing is used for this one as it currently is. (The mapper didn't update so I took it from the current one)
Perfect! It sounds much better indeed. Thank you for your check Frost :3 I'd say to set +10 on the first one.
Let's wait for mapper's reply then. Summarizing:



SPOILER
[TimingPoints]
594,428.464312493305,4,2,1,30,1,0
14309,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
14737,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
19452,-100,4,2,1,20,0,0
19880,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
20737,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
21166,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
50295,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
52009,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
54366,-100,4,2,1,35,0,0
55008,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
55437,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
55865,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
57579,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
59293,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
61007,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
62292,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
63578,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
64006,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
64863,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
66149,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
66577,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
67862,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
68291,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
69576,-100,4,1,1,45,0,1
70005,-100,4,2,1,45,0,1
70862,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
71504,428.464312493305,4,2,1,30,1,0
72161,428.464312493305,4,2,1,50,1,1
79430,-100,4,1,1,50,0,1
79859,-100,4,2,1,50,0,1
81144,-100,4,1,1,50,0,1
81573,-100,4,2,1,50,0,1
85857,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
88444,446.594715295869,4,2,0,15,1,0
89321,-117.647058823529,4,2,0,15,0,0
89340,446.594715295869,4,2,0,15,1,0
96019,465.116279069767,4,2,0,15,1,0
96484,521.739130434783,4,2,0,15,1,0
101192,600,4,2,0,15,1,0
Topic Starter
Rizia

Chewin wrote:

General

  1. 2nd red line (the one that starts kiai time) is still off. It must be 72161. Don't forget to resnap elements and green lines after applied this change. 88428 red line is off as well, it should be 88444 and next one at 89340.
  2. Why don't you add the video? You can get it from http://osu.ppy.sh/s/154334
Easy

  1. 01:16:431 (2,3) - We have wrong spacing here. Move the 01:17:288 (3) at x:400 y:140
Normal

  1. First part looks so empty without hitsounds. I mean you should add normal sampleset on 00:07:877 , 00:08:734 and so on to make the sound much better to hear. Well, I'm suggesting to apply the same hitsounds happy623 made for his Easy xD
  2. 01:29:321 (1) - This slider should finish 1/2 later to fill the piano melody. On that red tick I can't hear any sound there.
Hard

  1. 00:17:732 (1) - Wrong snap here. Extend this slider by 1/4 till the white tick
  2. 00:21:160 (1) - Snap it correctly on the red tick
  3. 00:31:443 (1) - Extend by 1/4
  4. 01:29:321 (1) - Whistles on slider's head and tail, 01:32:893 (1) whistle on reverse arrow (to fill melody sounds)
  5. 01:36:484 (4) - New combo
That's it. Thank you BeatofIke for checking the bpm issues :3 But I would apply those timing changes I suggested as well about red lines, they are more accurated to me. Nice mapset anyways, you can call me back when you have fixed them :3
hello, here i am fixed all the unsnap, timing, nc, hitsound
also i'm updated my map
thanks for check timing ;___;
Chewin
Well. We have resnapped all green lines in the Easy diff (because with offset changes circles were set earlier than green lines so they didn't have effect on them). I guess I can give your bubble back. Good luck!

Rebubbled!
RCDesigner
Checked the insane diff and it's really good. Firsty I thought that it will be very easy but this jumps<3 Hope your map gets rank!
BeatofIke
The preview time sounds good at 00:55:008 (55008). Also, the end part still sounds a bit off. Going to double-check that.

EDIT: Okay, here's my final Timing Check for the end part. Re-snap all notes and timing sections there. Fix that and I shall re-rank!

Topic Starter
Rizia

BeatofIke wrote:

The preview time sounds good at 00:55:008 (55008). Also, the end part still sounds a bit off. Going to double-check that.

EDIT: Okay, here's my final Timing Check for the end part. Re-snap all notes and timing sections there. Fix that and I shall re-rank!

Fixed all diff
really thanks for timing check again ;__;
updated
BeatofIke
Everything checks out now. Re-ranked!
Scores are wiped!
Topic Starter
Rizia

BeatofIke wrote:

Everything checks out now. Re-ranked!
Scores are wiped!
>_______<
pkk
Congrats on (re)rank! owo
Koiyuki
该给的撒泼特还是要给
happy623
叻仔
IamKwaN

happy623 wrote:

叻仔
叻柚
10crystalmask01
Cute song! :) Planning to watch the anime soon (after seeing some awesome beatmaps like this being made), so I hope it's good!

Congratulations on you first rank!
Chewin
Finally, Gratz!
Ozato Fumika
gratz~
Sapphiire_old_1
Gratz !! :)
yf_bmp
Gratz~~SS美丽……
IamKwaN

yf_bmp wrote:

Gratz~~SS美丽……
我的yf不可能這麼可愛>///<
Zero__wind
why am I still bothered with the timing *sighs

I feel that notes around 00:58:028 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - are pretty early with the current timing, I think it's because the first uninherited point's BPM is slightly wrong
I tried to work my own one for referrence

Besides, the drums at 00:33:814 (2) - in the music is quite unstable as I suppose, they're not reliable for timing reference

I'll try to find more people to confirm whether the timing still neede to be changed

really sorry for the inconvenience

EDIT: IGNORE THIS TIMING AND SEE THE NEXT PAGE
OnosakiHito
I think we should go for an unrank. The timing doesn't fit here anyway. It's a pitty but nothing we can do here. This can be by far refined.


Map: http://puu.sh/7w53U.7z

Don't know how you gonna procide here zero__wind, but if you want I can ask aabc271 and lolcubes for recheck.
Zero__wind
after some discussion with some other BATs, it's been decided that sadly this map needs to be unranked again due to wrong timing
check my former post to see the solution and plz resnap all notes and inherited points and preview points in all diffs
call me back after it's done
Zero__wind
considered Ono's opinion and kinda got to a consensus on this
plz use the timing below, it should be good enough now
Topic Starter
Rizia
i will fix it when i come back home
IamKwaN
小柚子你下次都係搵445 check下好d
Raging Bull
wow its new Amamiya Yuko. re re re re re re re rank
Topic Starter
Rizia
我改好了 但成績單還在是什麼一回事 不敢update/_\"
Zero__wind

Kawaiwkyik wrote:

我改好了 但成績單還在是什麼一回事 不敢update/_\"
scores should be wiped now
upload your map plz
sammy711
:idea:
wtf...My score has been wiped twice
my HD DT of 1×100...
From my perspective, The first version of timing plays much better than the second one,though..
Anyway, congratz for Kawaiwkyik's first rank
(Why score wiping is so easy for BATs QAQ
Zero__wind

sammy711 wrote:

From my perspective, The first version of timing plays much better than the second one,though..
yes, I'm sorry that you're just right, the second timing is even worse

But now, it should be way better than the former two
checked everything and ready to go again
Rebubbled.
pw384
wa
Atrue
怎么还un。。摸摸柚子。。
happy623
柚子一下子就3rd rank了
IamKwaN

happy623 wrote:

柚子一下子就3rd rank了
Topic Starter
Rizia
BeatofIke
Going once, going twice...

Faust
Found it to be more accurate after applying -10 ms to offset.
GitahMuttan
I cry everytime
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