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Natsume Chiaki - Hanairo Biyori

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Awaken

Zero__wind wrote:

这图怎么还没美丽
等等 原来已经被un过一次了
这spread居然不会死?我非常地惊讶
事实证明只要ICON连续就不会 bybf
Sellenite

Awaken wrote:

Zero__wind wrote:

这图怎么还没美丽
等等 原来已经被un过一次了
这spread居然不会死?我非常地惊讶
事实证明只要ICON连续就不会 bybf
rip 狮鹫
Asphyxia
Disqualifying this for the following reasons


  1. Normal-hitnormal has a 10 ms delay on it, this should get fixed.
  2. The difficulty progression from Hard -> Insane is really, really huge. Not acceptable.
  3. Awaken's Challenge: 02:12:226 (2,1) - This should not happen, they're visually the exact same slider but the rhythm is different.
    Note; 02:59:039 (1) - Is the same as above
  4. 02:23:435 (3,4,5,6) - This stream isn't even in the music.

Things that should probably be fixed



  • Normal
  1. 00:23:764 (2) - Having a short slider with more than 1 repeat is quite iffy for the lowest difficulty.
  2. 02:35:632 - Did you hitsound the last kiai? You probably should double-check this.
    Hard
  3. The Od currently is quite low, consider adding +1 to it.
    Insane
  4. Same as hard, consider +1 Od because currently it is too low.
    Awaken's Challenge
  5. 02:20:962 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This section is questionable since it does not follow anything in the music.

Please remember that this will set be handled by BATs now (re-bubbling, re-qualifying). To ensure this set doesn't get unqualified again, make sure to get few extra mods if possible!
Soarezi
rekt™
AGCD
rekt™
Kasie
just wow.
primrose
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
kamisamaaa
。。。哎又被un了啊。。。
IamKwaN
I wonder if your suggestions can help reduce the large gap. So, what concrete steps should the mapper take in order to solve the subjective spread problem?
Garven
Just some quick clarifications before I run to work:

The stream at 2:23 needs to be audible.
Diff spread: Try to introduce a few more jumps in the Hard and/or reduce jump spacing in the Insane. The technique use is just very drastic going from difficulty to difficulty.

Also give 02:32:995 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - a listen. Sounds like you kinda went off prematurely there. The streaming should start later.
Asphyxia

Garven wrote:

Just some quick clarifications before I run to work:

Diff spread: Try to introduce a few more jumps in the Hard and/or reduce jump spacing in the Insane. The technique use is just very drastic going from difficulty to difficulty.
My bad for not clearing this fully. I also think adding maybe few triplets in Hard could work fairly well to match the streams in Insane.
Dare
02:37:446 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this stream in Awaken's Challange make no sense to me. it does not follow the rythm imo. the way it was in Nakawaxtra fit better.
X Light
wow so cool
Sellenite
看来我要烧一下香保一下平安
Mei
Azer
It would be great if these things could be handled in one disqualification and not two, please be more efficient..
Koiyuki
阿瓦肯的插嫩菊又被un了?

看来阿瓦肯还是插不了嫩菊,hhh
Awaken

Minakami Yuki wrote:

阿瓦肯的插嫩菊又被un了?

看来阿瓦肯还是插不了嫩菊,hhh
什么 看不起我 我插一朵更大的嫩菊给你看111
FlobuFlobs

Asphyxia wrote:

Garven wrote:

Just some quick clarifications before I run to work:

Diff spread: Try to introduce a few more jumps in the Hard and/or reduce jump spacing in the Insane. The technique use is just very drastic going from difficulty to difficulty.
My bad for not clearing this fully. I also think adding maybe few triplets in Hard could work fairly well to match the streams in Insane.
then would be the gap from normal to hard to big

they need another insane and easy

or just lower the insane
[-Cloud-]
Some quality stuff over here.
IN4001
频繁被un感觉是因为屁股卖的还不够
卧槽new page
AllStar12
Hate to see how this is going but I would like to take this opportunity to point something out from Awaken's Challenge difficulty if you don't mind Awaken. :/

  1. I personally feel like triplets from these certain parts are unnecessary such as:
    • 01:04:149 (1,2,3) -
    • 01:09:424 (1,2,3) -
    • 01:14:698 (1,2,3) -

    Parts that sound similar to these three parts are:
    • 00:58:874 (2,3) -
    • 01:50:303 (4,5) -
    • 01:55:577 (7,8) -
    • 02:00:852 (2,3) -
    • 02:06:127 (7,8) -
    • 02:36:457 (2,3) -
    • 02:41:731 (2,3) -
    • 02:47:006 (7,8) -
    • 02:52:281 (8,9) -

    I suggest removing that extra circle note from those triplets just like how you did for the others. If not then I'm sure you have reasons for declining and hope this is the final removal.
xLolicore-
Dang I enjoyed the roller coaster-like ride with the cursor back in normal D:
Spiral
现在没正式rank之前都不安全了
Topic Starter
rinsukir
嘻嘻
liaoxingyao
怎么又被un了真是背上hhhh
Zero__wind

Awaken wrote:

Zero__wind wrote:

这图怎么还没美丽
等等 原来已经被un过一次了
这spread居然不会死?我非常地惊讶
事实证明只要ICON连续就不会 bybf
我早就书过了 看看是谁bybf
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Ok let's see something useful

For the diff spread, I agree on the following.

FlobuFlobs wrote:

Asphyxia wrote:

My bad for not clearing this fully. I also think adding maybe few triplets in Hard could work fairly well to match the streams in Insane.
then would be the gap from normal to hard to big

they need another insane and easy

or just lower the insane
4 diffs to 6.2 stars without gap is really hard to achieve

As for other unrankable issues, I don't think 02:12:885 (1) - this is something unrankable, I do recommend to change them like 01:21:127 (3,4) - for good though.
Other things which Asphyxia and Garven pointed out should really be considerd carefully

Besides, I have another IMPORTANT thing to tell. Sorry for not reading the whole thread of 14 pages though.
I don't know if this has ever been noticed and pointed out before but everybody plz listen closely to the music at points like 00:15:358 - and 00:16:676 - , you'll find out that there're actually 1/6 beats in the music instaed of 1/4 ones.
By pointing this out, I question that if throwing 1/4 tripples at these points are rankable. because they actually DON'T follow the music. Theoretically speaking, wrong snaps like this shouldn't be rankable but when it comes to high BPM, it MAY become acceptable. After all, rapid 1/6 streams with jumps in 182 BPM map are tough indeed. I know many of you guys can handle them properly, but it's still difficult.
I hope the QAT could show THEIR attitude toward this before this mapset gets requalified again, so we won't have further concerns.
Plz be aware that this feature only affects the Insane and Awaken's Challenge diff because the other two diffs don't have streams on those 1/6 beats.
To help you find out the 1/6 beats in the music, I listed most of them which are worth mentioning in the box below. Check if needed. They're actually arranged very regularly and easy to find.
SPOILER
00:15:358 -
00:16:676 -
00:17:995 -
00:19:314 -
00:20:632 -
00:21:951 -
00:23:270 -
00:24:588 -
00:34:479 - but 1/4 is acceptable here since the drum beats are snapped on 1/4
03:00:193 -
03:01:512 -
03:02:830 -
03:04:149 -
03:05:468 -
03:06:786 -
03:08:105 -
03:09:424 -
03:10:413 -
03:11:402 -
To solve, obey (1/6 ) and ignore (1/2) both work, you can choose either accordingly, just plz no 1/4 (if they're decided as not rankable)

Other subjective opinions on Awaken's Challenge:
I agree with AllStar12 that notes like 01:04:231 (2) - are not good. They're not WRONG, but not GOOD. And the increasing spacing for those tripples are not reasonable, using euqal spacing would fit the song better.

01:49:479 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is really hard to play. I spectated some pro players and watched some replays these days and many of them got big trouble at this part. Aiming properly on 01:49:643 (1,2,3) - after huge back-and-forth jumps are really difficult, I suggest that you CTRL+H and move them back like the pic below, that should make this more friendly. (just remember you may still want to stack 01:50:303 (4) - with 01:49:808 (3) - if you adjusted the tripples)
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/bKMLc/86e8967de2.jpg
02:28:380 (3,4) - they don't work well like the former 3/4 sliders. players often get 100 on 3. maybe make them 1/2 sliders instead.

That's all for me. Good luck.
Awaken

Zero__wind wrote:

我早就书过了 看看是谁bybf
尽管spread可能有点问题
但是没有上这个新大狗 根本不会有这么一桩事 食肉都能放过你说这个没上之前还有谁?
Avena
I haven't really investigated it, But from what I hear there is a whole lot of 1/6 in the song that all diffs completely ignored.
Rumteen
Can you make it higher OD now that the map is disqualified again? I feel it fits the music and the high difficulty even if not 9, a higher decimal of 8 (eg. 8.7) would make this map so much better >w<

EDIT: Awakens diff
nooblet
So apparently large difficulty progression is unrankable? Oh wait ...

I think this map's great, two high diffs are fun and challenging. Difficulty spread shouldn't mean anything ... Deserves much better than to be de-ranked like this.

Azer wrote:

It would be great if these things could be handled in one disqualification and not two, please be more efficient..
hehe
WHILE THIS UNRANKED SHIT IS GOING ON

ID LIKE TO POINT THIS OUT

02:56:649 (4,1) - is this this supposed to be smaller spacing (relative to the stream)

thanks
FlobuFlobs

nooblet wrote:

So apparently large difficulty progression is unrankable? Oh wait ...

I think this map's great, two high diffs are fun and challenging. Difficulty spread shouldn't mean anything ... Deserves much better than to be de-ranked like this.

Azer wrote:

It would be great if these things could be handled in one disqualification and not two, please be more efficient..
Diffspread is important but it should'nt even go ranked like this

And the ppl shouldnt ignore post from other noname mapper like me cuz they help too, Postet on the First unrank this spread issue but None cared
lkx_Shore
Quick check.
可以不给kd吗?

wkyik's Insane


  • 你有未snapped的物件↓
    Object's end is not snapped! 00:36:455
    Object's end is not snapped! 01:09:422
  1. 00:34:479 (2,3,4) - 换成1/6滑条好点。
  2. 02:07:775 (5,2) - nazi,叠好?
    Fine
Crystal
quick mod requested from Awaken

[wkyik]
00:27:061 (5,6,7) - 这个叠在一起不好读的感觉,我的建议是: 6放在240|56 7放在224|36
01:03:902 (4,5) - 这个4被前面的挡住了不好读
01:19:149 (1) - 420|288 和前面连打的间距保持一致
01:27:226 (2,3) - 这里不太清楚跟的什么 反正感觉有点难打
02:10:248 (10) - nazi一下,这里往上一点点好像更好看
02:59:698 (2) - 188|176? 这个spacing有点confusing

good luck on rerank ;)
Mei
这个insane好!

顺便我的hard这个滑条悲剧了帮我改改;_;01:13:792 (1) - 还有我还要不要加难啊
Rizia
Almost fixed all
7645645
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128,248,184314,2,0,P|124:292|114:336,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,240,184643,6,0,P|228:168|216:96,1,135
224,84,184973,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,32,185138,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,32,185220,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,32,185303,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,124,185468,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,144,185550,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,152,185632,1,8,0:0:0:0:
464,148,185715,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,128,185797,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,168,185962,6,0,P|276:232|276:280,1,90
275,257,186209,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,257,186292,1,8,0:0:0:0:
304,352,186457,1,0,0:0:0:0:
164,272,186621,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,240,186704,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,208,186786,1,0,0:0:0:0:
188,176,186869,1,0,0:0:0:0:
188,144,186951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
140,48,187116,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,264,187281,6,0,P|84:216|88:160,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,288,187610,2,0,P|276:240|280:184,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,76,187940,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,128,188105,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,128,188187,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,128,188270,1,8,0:0:0:0:
272,156,188435,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,296,188599,6,0,P|88:284|56:284,1,90,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,180,188929,2,0,P|244:176|288:167,1,90,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,80,189259,1,8,0:0:0:0:
424,164,189424,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,164,189506,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,164,189588,6,0,P|420:228|420:272,1,90,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,332,189918,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,280,190083,1,8,0:0:0:0:
348,192,190248,1,8,0:0:0:0:
280,360,190413,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,360,190495,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,360,190577,6,0,P|216:352|184:352,1,90,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,372,190907,1,8,0:0:0:0:
8,296,191072,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,192,191237,1,8,0:0:0:0:
144,160,191402,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,160,191484,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,160,191566,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,360,191731,1,2,0:0:0:0:
Xantaria
wow so much fun to play, great map!
Awaken
OD8.5, let's go
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rinsukir
@Asphyxia: maybe all fixed
@Zero__wind: 很抱歉 我不想改那些有1/6的地方 1/6太难1/2不爽 所以就不去管它吧 我想这可以被接受 大概
@lkx_Shore: thx for mod! 那我就不给kd咯..
and thanks others.
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