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What do you consider "CTB Skill"?
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There are very many aspects to CTB.
For me, I'd consider these the main "factors" that measure skill in a cumulative:
- Move speed: How fact you can move the catcher. That relates to the "supersonicspeed fingers" you were talking about. Players like these can easily do stuff in DoubleTime or sometimes HardRock, and conquer wiggling slider patterns.
- Memory: People with a relatively mild aspect of memory can play Hidden well. For the more extreme cases, this is Flashlight. This is basically how good you can "know" what will come next and how to respond as such.
- Reaction time: One of the most often sought-after aspects, the ability to react like lightning. These are the people that vow for sped, DT'd AR9 and HR all the maps they can. This is the most sought-after mainly because of the resultant score.
- Banana catching: Another sought-after aspect is being able to catch the maximal amount of bananas, mainly because you trump your own mod you're using if you get the most bananas. Some players have memorized the banana patterns in osu! already.
- Technical movement: This is the most basic skill, and is often found in a lot of players. This is the ability to recognize patterns and catch them correctly.
So yeah, those are my five main aspects of CtB "skill" that I see.
For me, I'd consider these the main "factors" that measure skill in a cumulative:
- Move speed: How fact you can move the catcher. That relates to the "supersonicspeed fingers" you were talking about. Players like these can easily do stuff in DoubleTime or sometimes HardRock, and conquer wiggling slider patterns.
- Memory: People with a relatively mild aspect of memory can play Hidden well. For the more extreme cases, this is Flashlight. This is basically how good you can "know" what will come next and how to respond as such.
- Reaction time: One of the most often sought-after aspects, the ability to react like lightning. These are the people that vow for sped, DT'd AR9 and HR all the maps they can. This is the most sought-after mainly because of the resultant score.
- Banana catching: Another sought-after aspect is being able to catch the maximal amount of bananas, mainly because you trump your own mod you're using if you get the most bananas. Some players have memorized the banana patterns in osu! already.
- Technical movement: This is the most basic skill, and is often found in a lot of players. This is the ability to recognize patterns and catch them correctly.
So yeah, those are my five main aspects of CtB "skill" that I see.
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Umm I can list most of the CTB Skills needed:
1. Spin well
2. AR7-9 HDDT
3. AR10 HD/No-mod
4. AR6 HRDT (2pro4me muh:c)
5. Low AR HD
6. CS5+ HR
7. AR7-10 HR
8. SS on some CS5+ stuff with HR/None
... Regardless you have skills in CTB or not, I think the most important CTB Skill at all is the good CTBmanship.
Be well-mannered and polite to people is the most precious thing
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Noob question:
What's AR?
What's AR?
Approach rate, the speed of a fruit fallingRed_Spade wrote:
Noob question:
What's AR?
if you get used to hr only, then hd doesn't change anything ...Valseem wrote:
ctb skill is doing HR only on insane maps, doing HD HR is a way easier than only HR. try it
PP is the true skill.
score rankings
not that much... :3seicHmsc wrote:
score rankings
Hyperdash/dash timing
Ow, How could I forget!seicHmsc wrote:
score rankings
i consider the skill to feel better and better about your improvements to be the best in ctb or any game. if you feel happy with how you play that's more than enough
if you go by competitiveness too much you'll throw shit at you all the time because someone is always better than you in some aspect of the game so that's not healthy
if you go by competitiveness too much you'll throw shit at you all the time because someone is always better than you in some aspect of the game so that's not healthy
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true wordsVelperK wrote:
i consider the skill to feel better and better about your improvements to be the best in ctb or any game. if you feel happy with how you play that's more than enough
if you go by competitiveness too much you'll throw shit at you all the time because someone is always better than you in some aspect of the game so that's not healthy
I think you're confusing skill with having funVelperK wrote:
i consider the skill to feel better and better about your improvements to be the best in ctb or any game. if you feel happy with how you play that's more than enough
if you go by competitiveness too much you'll throw shit at you all the time because someone is always better than you in some aspect of the game so that's not healthy
which is the objective of most games after alli dont feel like arguing with you everytime i say somethingeldnl wrote:
I think you're confusing skill with having funVelperK wrote:
i consider the skill to feel better and better about your improvements to be the best in ctb or any game. if you feel happy with how you play that's more than enough
if you go by competitiveness too much you'll throw shit at you all the time because someone is always better than you in some aspect of the game so that's not healthy
peace
but arguin doesn't mean we are not in peace, the discussions that we could have about the game stays here, arguing is fun!VelperK wrote:
i dont feel like arguing with you everytime i say somethingeldnl wrote:
I think you're confusing skill with having fun
peace
Simple, FC~HR DT HD FL all the way!!! Nah just kidding, that will be like studying for test.
Doing impossible jumps, and able to remain stable after a red fruit.
Doing impossible jumps, and able to remain stable after a red fruit.
Ctb skill = be able to do hard pattern most of the time ( more than 80 % of retries)
So...I'm noob
So...I'm noob
what is that
Someone that can tap like crazy and able to tackle high AR maps
1. Being able to handle AR9 and AR10 beatmaps without a problem.
2. Doing all the jumps on jumpy AR8+ beatmaps.
3. Clearing a beatmap with very small fruits without missing.
2. Doing all the jumps on jumpy AR8+ beatmaps.
3. Clearing a beatmap with very small fruits without missing.
When you play not-aproval maps and can pased and others no owo
Filled with jumps!!! A lot of pressed keys for seconds ouo
Or when you begin to rank in multiplayer in hards songs and without you know you did xDD TYPICAL
Ar=10 is only practice with your eyes , ctb must be reaction and speed <3
Filled with jumps!!! A lot of pressed keys for seconds ouo
Or when you begin to rank in multiplayer in hards songs and without you know you did xDD TYPICAL
Ar=10 is only practice with your eyes , ctb must be reaction and speed <3
HD+HR AR9/AR10 maps
SS/Silver SS on a map filled with crazy-as-heck jumps
the ability to perfect a map that has CS 6.0+
stuff like that
SS/Silver SS on a map filled with crazy-as-heck jumps
the ability to perfect a map that has CS 6.0+
stuff like that
Even though, I may have no experience to often compensate for my answer, but what I consider skill is when someone is consistently getting better under different circumstances. Someone who can keep trying even if they miss a fruit or a droplet. The ability to keep going even if they are in the boundary of failing. That right there is what makes a person pro in my opinion. Also, it has nothing to do with the sheer fact that he/she can play insane++ maps. I feel that I could consider someone skilled at Catch the Beat when they complete a map on any difficulty. It's all about growth, baby!
Catching the beats :^)
jk, Idc about skill but I say if you are able to full combo ar9/10 you're pretty good
jk, Idc about skill but I say if you are able to full combo ar9/10 you're pretty good
When you are playing any AR10 map first time and you FC it. Thats skill D:
I can play AR10
DT is so easy for me
DT is so easy for me
Uh, as stupid as this is going to sound, but I consider skill to be a person's perseverance and how much they want it.
It's definitely a great asset to consider when striving for more than what you originally set out with.
It's definitely a great asset to consider when striving for more than what you originally set out with.
Not that I can do these but..
When you can FC really hard songs (0108, Big Black, etc)
HDHR on hard songs.
When you can FC really hard songs (0108, Big Black, etc)
HDHR on hard songs.
Skill in my books:
- Making that pixel/bunny jump that people just stare at and wonder wtf and how tf you did it
- That moment when you HDDT an insane and get +43, then redo it, FC again but get an extra 16k points in bananas and then get +30...Yea
- HRing an AR8/9, like what?! Are you even human?
- No modding, hands down, I bow before anyone who can no mod AR9+, teach me pls
I revoke my statement, this is hands down true skill, stepping away from the keyboard.PakaChan wrote:
True skill is being able to quit the game
Basically stuff you see here can be considered "skill".
Actually, no modding anything below AR9 and 4+ stars is superb.
Just look at what a legend set is https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=96684&m=2
Just look at what a legend set is https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=96684&m=2
Not really in a position to talk about it, I guess.
But I'd class "CtB Skill" as being able to play consistently at your individual level; whether it be Cup or Overdose.
But I'd class "CtB Skill" as being able to play consistently at your individual level; whether it be Cup or Overdose.
I think skill is:
- Doing succesfully these long jumps
- getting S-SS in high AR/Difficulty maps
- Hidden mod (When I try to play with hidden even easy-normal maps, i got about C lol)
- Doing succesfully these long jumps
- getting S-SS in high AR/Difficulty maps
- Hidden mod (When I try to play with hidden even easy-normal maps, i got about C lol)
CTB skill is just "Reading" in my opinion. The more different kinds of patterns you can read and play without missing, the more skilled you are.
[CtB Skills]
A skilled player can manage the most intense and hardest patterns that can be found.
A skilled player can FC the most complex maps around.
A skilled player can play most mod (FL not included, due to memorization), mods like HD, HR, DT/NC, EZ (yes)
A skilled player can manage to almost max out the banana count for each map.
A skilled player does not need a high rank, but have FC on maps that few people can do.
There are still many more reasons, but ill let that stay to your opinion.
A skilled player can manage the most intense and hardest patterns that can be found.
A skilled player can FC the most complex maps around.
A skilled player can play most mod (FL not included, due to memorization), mods like HD, HR, DT/NC, EZ (yes)
A skilled player can manage to almost max out the banana count for each map.
A skilled player does not need a high rank, but have FC on maps that few people can do.
There are still many more reasons, but ill let that stay to your opinion.
A player can't be skilled without some kind of previous experience. You can't just have skill and that's that. It has to come from something. Be the result of something. Be it doing long jumps without fail, SS-ing AR7 with FL, or just passing Insane's.
A) "He is skilled in CtB"
B) " He has experience in CtB"
I think those two sentences are one and the same thing.
Just my opinion though. I, for sure; am not skilled enough to give a proper answer.
A) "He is skilled in CtB"
B) " He has experience in CtB"
I think those two sentences are one and the same thing.
Just my opinion though. I, for sure; am not skilled enough to give a proper answer.
For me personally, CTB skill is when you are a talented player with one of CTB Mods (or more) and you can make such things with these mods that most of other guys are not capable to do, or spinner monster or all of that together
And of course, just again in my opinion, your talents must be showed in #1 places!
Also, I honestly don't think that having 10000 SS and 100% accuracy will make you a skilled CTB player, accuracy doesn't count, at least if it's not on Insane diffs and crazy maps
But that's again my thoughts
Only #1 places count or not the #1 place but with Mods which were not used by any other person on this diff, kinda extreme feeling
And of course, just again in my opinion, your talents must be showed in #1 places!
Also, I honestly don't think that having 10000 SS and 100% accuracy will make you a skilled CTB player, accuracy doesn't count, at least if it's not on Insane diffs and crazy maps
But that's again my thoughtsOnly #1 places count or not the #1 place but with Mods which were not used by any other person on this diff, kinda extreme feeling
just being consistent
-Doing unique records.
-FC or high combo a hard map with some mod (that's no one did before) and hold it for long time. For example: neu FL or neu HR or any amazing DT records in hard maps (there are plenty records) .. (old TAG4 records ofc)
-For me I think , that any player with +10k replays watched is totally skilled (or was in someday), that's explain number of views. (or probably as Giorgos said many #1 . (Hold 1 now is much harder so, sure it is a skill!
-Be beast in some mod , or spin!
-FC old maps with strange patterns, and pass with complex mods , DT, HR , or HD as Guruk used to do for example is a skill.
-Accused by cheating..
-FC or high combo a hard map with some mod (that's no one did before) and hold it for long time. For example: neu FL or neu HR or any amazing DT records in hard maps (there are plenty records) .. (old TAG4 records ofc)
-For me I think , that any player with +10k replays watched is totally skilled (or was in someday), that's explain number of views. (or probably as Giorgos said many #1 . (Hold 1 now is much harder so, sure it is a skill!
-Be beast in some mod , or spin!
-FC old maps with strange patterns, and pass with complex mods , DT, HR , or HD as Guruk used to do for example is a skill.
-Accused by cheating..