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Did a few minor changes via IRC

Changes:
  1. Minor rhythm improvements
  2. Removed useless green lines


IRC log
18:54 Kyshiro: haelo
18:54 -Bakari-: hey o/
18:54 Kyshiro: um i have kind of a big favor to ask :c
18:55 -Bakari-: I was going to ask you for a mod, lol
18:55 Kyshiro: i have this map i made for someone, which i want to rank on a specific date
18:55 Kyshiro: oh well, lets make that a m4m? lolol
18:55 -Bakari-: yeah, sure
18:55 Kyshiro: ok uhm the thing is
18:55 -Bakari-: just, aren't you a bit afraid of speedranking? D:
18:55 Kyshiro: asphyxia will bubble the map
18:55 Kyshiro: and i want the map to be ranked on the 4th
18:55 Kyshiro: nah im not
18:56 Kyshiro: why?
18:56 -Bakari-: oh well, last time we gor something speedranked Loctav was mad
18:56 Kyshiro: are you speedranking stuff? lolol
18:56 Kyshiro: oh this isn't a speedrank
18:56 -Bakari-: let me see the map :D
18:56 Kyshiro: submitted 7 jan 2014
18:56 *Kyshiro is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432839 Cres - End Time]
18:56 Kyshiro: :3
18:57 Kyshiro: just need a mod or 2 more on the insane since that's a fairly new diff
18:58 -Bakari-: oookaay, let's see
19:01 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432841 Cres - End Time [Insane]]
19:01 -Bakari-: come on, 00:06:675 (5,6) - finish them 1/1 earlier.
19:02 Kyshiro: nuu :c
19:02 Kyshiro: i used this
19:02 Kyshiro: all over the mapset
19:02 Kyshiro: LOL
19:02 Kyshiro: literally every diff
19:02 -Bakari-: do it in every diff, then \:D/
19:03 Kyshiro: i really don't want to fix that though :c i love the slow parts this way
19:03 Kyshiro: if i make them start and end on beats it's even less to map there
19:07 -Bakari-: 00:40:675 - do we need that green line? :D
19:07 -Bakari-: 00:43:341 - 00:44:675 - ^
19:07 Kyshiro: hm nope lolol
19:07 -Bakari-: kdspls, kthxbye.
19:08 Kyshiro: LOL
19:08 Kyshiro: ok
19:08 Kyshiro: its not even necessary to delete those tho
19:08 Kyshiro: but i will ok
19:08 -Bakari-: well, it's "recommended" to do so
19:08 -Bakari-: 00:53:341 (5) - meh, a slider here would do great. + you could NC it
19:09 Kyshiro: hm
19:09 Kyshiro: made a slider yeah
19:09 Kyshiro: i dont think NC is fitting tho
19:10 Kyshiro: but oh might as well
19:10 Kyshiro: i had combo
19:10 Kyshiro: combo's of 2 earlier in the map too *
19:11 -Bakari-: 00:59:008 - this stuff was kinda "mappded" in the hardest diff
19:11 -Bakari-: and it breaks polarity here
19:11 -Bakari-: aasdada, just put a circle here and we'll be cool.
19:12 Kyshiro: okok
19:12 -Bakari-: 01:00:925 - and probably here, I expected something here because of music
19:13 Kyshiro: there's not even a sound there D:
19:13 Kyshiro: ..right..?
19:14 Kyshiro: there isnt o-o
19:14 -Bakari-: then there's something wrong with my earphones O_O
19:15 Kyshiro: lemme put on my headset
19:15 Kyshiro: using shitty speakers
19:15 Kyshiro: there really isnt D:
19:15 -Bakari-: nvm, I'm dumb lol
19:15 -Bakari-: tv was playing in the other room and it tricked me
19:16 Kyshiro: loool ok
19:17 -Bakari-: 01:15:091 (4,5,6,7,8) - are you sure that it is readable?
19:17 -Bakari-: aftre hitting a couple of doubles, triplets might be unexpected
19:17 Kyshiro: hmm
19:18 Kyshiro: i could change the doubles into 1/4 sliders
19:18 -Bakari-: that'd be great
19:18 Kyshiro: mfw not enough space to do that
19:18 Kyshiro: damnit osu why are you so small
19:19 Kyshiro: okay fixed lolol
19:20 -Bakari-: isn't 01:47:341 (3,4,5,6) - that a bit too easy for the kiai?
19:21 Kyshiro: hmm well, its that or nonstop 1/4 lolol
19:22 Kyshiro: i dunno i think it fits fine, it had to be easier than the extra
19:22 -Bakari-: I thought about repeated 1/4 sliders
19:22 -Bakari-: but meh, either way it is great
19:23 -Bakari-: what did you expect me to mod? D: it's a great diff
19:24 Kyshiro: well it needed mods :c can't really rank something with just 1 mod on it
19:24 Kyshiro: would get loctav up my ass
19:24 Kyshiro: again
19:25 -Bakari-: should I post the log? :D
19:26 Kyshiro: yeah, go ahead :3
19:26 Kyshiro: now with stefan's mod too, i think assfix will be able to rank

Cool.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

-Bakari- wrote:

Did a few minor changes via IRC

Changes:
  1. Minor rhythm improvements
  2. Removed useless green lines


IRC log
18:54 Kyshiro: haelo
18:54 -Bakari-: hey o/
18:54 Kyshiro: um i have kind of a big favor to ask :c
18:55 -Bakari-: I was going to ask you for a mod, lol
18:55 Kyshiro: i have this map i made for someone, which i want to rank on a specific date
18:55 Kyshiro: oh well, lets make that a m4m? lolol
18:55 -Bakari-: yeah, sure
18:55 Kyshiro: ok uhm the thing is
18:55 -Bakari-: just, aren't you a bit afraid of speedranking? D:
18:55 Kyshiro: asphyxia will bubble the map
18:55 Kyshiro: and i want the map to be ranked on the 4th
18:55 Kyshiro: nah im not
18:56 Kyshiro: why?
18:56 -Bakari-: oh well, last time we gor something speedranked Loctav was mad
18:56 Kyshiro: are you speedranking stuff? lolol
18:56 Kyshiro: oh this isn't a speedrank
18:56 -Bakari-: let me see the map :D
18:56 Kyshiro: submitted 7 jan 2014
18:56 *Kyshiro is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432839 Cres - End Time]
18:56 Kyshiro: :3
18:57 Kyshiro: just need a mod or 2 more on the insane since that's a fairly new diff
18:58 -Bakari-: oookaay, let's see
19:01 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/432841 Cres - End Time [Insane]]
19:01 -Bakari-: come on, 00:06:675 (5,6) - finish them 1/1 earlier.
19:02 Kyshiro: nuu :c
19:02 Kyshiro: i used this
19:02 Kyshiro: all over the mapset
19:02 Kyshiro: LOL
19:02 Kyshiro: literally every diff
19:02 -Bakari-: do it in every diff, then \:D/
19:03 Kyshiro: i really don't want to fix that though :c i love the slow parts this way
19:03 Kyshiro: if i make them start and end on beats it's even less to map there
19:07 -Bakari-: 00:40:675 - do we need that green line? :D
19:07 -Bakari-: 00:43:341 - 00:44:675 - ^
19:07 Kyshiro: hm nope lolol
19:07 -Bakari-: kdspls, kthxbye.
19:08 Kyshiro: LOL
19:08 Kyshiro: ok
19:08 Kyshiro: its not even necessary to delete those tho
19:08 Kyshiro: but i will ok
19:08 -Bakari-: well, it's "recommended" to do so
19:08 -Bakari-: 00:53:341 (5) - meh, a slider here would do great. + you could NC it
19:09 Kyshiro: hm
19:09 Kyshiro: made a slider yeah
19:09 Kyshiro: i dont think NC is fitting tho
19:10 Kyshiro: but oh might as well
19:10 Kyshiro: i had combo
19:10 Kyshiro: combo's of 2 earlier in the map too *
19:11 -Bakari-: 00:59:008 - this stuff was kinda "mappded" in the hardest diff
19:11 -Bakari-: and it breaks polarity here
19:11 -Bakari-: aasdada, just put a circle here and we'll be cool.
19:12 Kyshiro: okok
19:12 -Bakari-: 01:00:925 - and probably here, I expected something here because of music
19:13 Kyshiro: there's not even a sound there D:
19:13 Kyshiro: ..right..?
19:14 Kyshiro: there isnt o-o
19:14 -Bakari-: then there's something wrong with my earphones O_O
19:15 Kyshiro: lemme put on my headset
19:15 Kyshiro: using shitty speakers
19:15 Kyshiro: there really isnt D:
19:15 -Bakari-: nvm, I'm dumb lol
19:15 -Bakari-: tv was playing in the other room and it tricked me
19:16 Kyshiro: loool ok
19:17 -Bakari-: 01:15:091 (4,5,6,7,8) - are you sure that it is readable?
19:17 -Bakari-: aftre hitting a couple of doubles, triplets might be unexpected
19:17 Kyshiro: hmm
19:18 Kyshiro: i could change the doubles into 1/4 sliders
19:18 -Bakari-: that'd be great
19:18 Kyshiro: mfw not enough space to do that
19:18 Kyshiro: damnit osu why are you so small
19:19 Kyshiro: okay fixed lolol
19:20 -Bakari-: isn't 01:47:341 (3,4,5,6) - that a bit too easy for the kiai?
19:21 Kyshiro: hmm well, its that or nonstop 1/4 lolol
19:22 Kyshiro: i dunno i think it fits fine, it had to be easier than the extra
19:22 -Bakari-: I thought about repeated 1/4 sliders
19:22 -Bakari-: but meh, either way it is great
19:23 -Bakari-: what did you expect me to mod? D: it's a great diff
19:24 Kyshiro: well it needed mods :c can't really rank something with just 1 mod on it
19:24 Kyshiro: would get loctav up my ass
19:24 Kyshiro: again
19:25 -Bakari-: should I post the log? :D
19:26 Kyshiro: yeah, go ahead :3
19:26 Kyshiro: now with stefan's mod too, i think assfix will be able to bubble

Cool.
tytyty
Asphyxia
Re-check here, remove for and my from the tags, they're unnecessary.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Asphyxia wrote:

Re-check here, remove for and my from the tags, they're unnecessary.
fix'd
Asphyxia
After some discussion in-game, we fixed couple more things and it's definitely ready now!


(∩`-´)⊃━☆゚.*・。゚

Bubbled!
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Asphyxia wrote:

After some discussion in-game, we fixed couple more things and it's definitely ready now!


(∩`-´)⊃━☆゚.*・。゚

Bubbled!
Thankssss³
Asphyxia
Popped due to mappers requests, poke me again when you want this rolling again.

Gero
M4M ~

General

  1. There is has only 1342 ms of audio lead-in, so would be ideal if you consider to add 1500/2000 ms or something.
Ami's Easy

  1. 00:10:341 - Consider to add an break here because the lapse of time between the end and start of the next note is quite long.
  2. 01:42:675 (2) - What do you think about using CTRL + G in this slider to improve the flow? you should try it.
  3. 02:03:675 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is kinda confusing but I guess it's fine also use the correct spacing for these notes.
  4. 02:07:024 (1) - Same as above.
Normal

  1. 00:05:008 (1) - Spacing?
  2. 00:37:008 (2,4) - ^ 02:04:563 (4) - ^
  3. 00:12:008 - Same thing that I've mentioned in easy.
  4. 00:40:008 (1) - Missing whistle on the head of the slider.
Hard Collab

  1. 00:09:341 (3) - What do you think about moving this circle to X:336 Y:364? it would be nice imo.
  2. 01:08:008 (1) - just a suggestion but I think it flows better if you do CTRL + G in this slider.
  3. 01:58:675 (1) - I think it would sound a lot better if you use a normal sampleset instead of soft.
Insane

  1. 00:11:841 (1,1) - This actually is unrankable, you know it doesn't have a enough time after one spinner so would be nice if you consider removing that circle.
  2. 00:37:008 (3) - What about to add one NC here? because this is quite long in comparison to the others.
For My Alexa

  1. 00:11:841 (1,1) - Same thing about the spinner.
  2. 02:08:756 (1) - ♥

    Suggestions by priti:

    I got some hitsounding suggestions for Extra:

    1. 00:56:008 (1) - 00:57:341 (1) - 00:58:675 (7) - 01:00:008 (6) - etc should have drum finishes, Kiai should have a normal-hitnormal every white tick or atleast a drum-hitnormal.
    2. 01:37:341 (1,2,3,4) - Should be 1/8 according to the drums in the song.
    3. 01:43:341 (9,12,13) - Drum sounds like this need some sort of hitsounding like, the ones that go off the main drum beat 01:54:675 - All normal bcuz drumbeat.
    I haven't nothing to say here because I like how it is now...
Call me back when you're done to apply the changes.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Gero wrote:

M4M ~

General

  1. There is has only 1342 ms of audio lead-in, so would be ideal if you consider to add 1500/2000 ms or something.
Ami's Easy

  1. 00:10:341 - Consider to add an break here because the lapse of time between the end and start of the next note is quite long.
  2. 01:42:675 (2) - What do you think about using CTRL + G in this slider to improve the flow? you should try it.
  3. 02:03:675 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is kinda confusing but I guess it's fine also use the correct spacing for these notes.
  4. 02:07:024 (1) - Same as above.
Normal

  1. 00:05:008 (1) - Spacing?
  2. 00:37:008 (2,4) - ^ 02:04:563 (4) - ^ Fixed this partly cause there's barely anything mappable here, fixed a bit to make it consistent
  3. 00:12:008 - Same thing that I've mentioned in easy.
  4. 00:40:008 (1) - Missing whistle on the head of the slider.
Hard Collab

  1. 00:09:341 (3) - What do you think about moving this circle to X:336 Y:364? it would be nice imo. I prefer to keep the blanket :c
  2. 01:08:008 (1) - just a suggestion but I think it flows better if you do CTRL + G in this slider. It would, but I prefer the way this plays atm
  3. 01:58:675 (1) - I think it would sound a lot better if you use a normal sampleset instead of soft.
Insane

  1. 00:11:841 (1,1) - This actually is unrankable, you know it doesn't have a enough time after one spinner so would be nice if you consider removing that circle. Should be fine for an insane
  2. 00:37:008 (3) - What about to add one NC here? because this is quite long in comparison to the others.
For My Alexa

  1. 00:11:841 (1,1) - Same thing about the spinner. Same as before
  2. 02:08:756 (1) - ♥

    Suggestions by priti:

    I got some hitsounding suggestions for Extra:

    1. 00:56:008 (1) - 00:57:341 (1) - 00:58:675 (7) - 01:00:008 (6) - etc should have drum finishes, Kiai should have a normal-hitnormal every white tick or atleast a drum-hitnormal. Added the drum finishes
    2. 01:37:341 (1,2,3,4) - Should be 1/8 according to the drums in the song. but im following the piano :c
    3. 01:43:341 (9,12,13) - Drum sounds like this need some sort of hitsounding like, the ones that go off the main drum beat fixed 01:54:675 - All normal bcuz drumbeat. kind of like the build up here to the end instead of putting normal on everything, wouldnt feel as special
    I haven't nothing to say here because I like how it is now...
Call me back when you're done to apply the changes.
Thanks guys :3
Gero
Qualified ~
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Gero wrote:

Qualified ~
thanksss :3
[ Mephisto ]
are the diff name is rankable ? ಠ_ಠ
Kuron-kun
the hardest diff can be ranked with any name

anyways, congratulations kyshiro and ami, great mapset o/
JappyBabes
this diff name got accepted. what.
Myxo
The hardest diff name can not be anything, it must relate to the song. This one doesn't..
Kuron-kun
oh, lol

I thought when a mapset was ranked with a diffname [cancer] anything was allowed >_>

but I saw now it got unranked.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro
Oh please. Do you really want this unranked for the diff name? the rule is that the hardest diffname can be custom. And it is related, I mapped this song for Alexa, which makes it related.

I asked multiple people and no one had a problem with it whatsoever
Stefan
Alexa = Ami

They worked together on this set.

They both have a relationship.

Classifies as rankable Difficulty name.

EDIT: Please stop shouting "hurrrdurr dif namu not rankiburr". Add something productive - and with sense behind - or don't post at all.
Mayzel
what is this diff name?
BAN plz
Veemon
congratzz !!
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Stefan wrote:

Alexa = Ami

They worked together on this set.

They both have a relationship.

Classifies as rankable Difficulty name.

EDIT: Please stop shouting "hurrrdurr dif namu not rankiburr". Add something productive - and with sense behind - or don't post at all.
konekokittenzzz

Kyshiro wrote:

Oh please. Do you really want this unranked for the diff name? the rule is that the hardest diffname can be custom. And it is related, I mapped this song for Alexa, which makes it related.

I asked multiple people and no one had a problem with it whatsoever
it's happened before with one where the guy named his diff name "cancer", but it's reasonable for that because that can be offensive to others

it got unranked for a short time because people wanted the name changed

this one's debatable but i don't think it should be unranked for something as small as a non-offensive difficulty name :D
Lach

Stefan wrote:

Alexa = Ami

They worked together on this set.

They both have a relationship.

Classifies as rankable Difficulty name.

EDIT: Please stop shouting "hurrrdurr dif namu not rankiburr". Add something productive - and with sense behind - or don't post at all.

Kyshiro wrote:

Oh please. Do you really want this unranked for the diff name? the rule is that the hardest diffname can be custom. And it is related, I mapped this song for Alexa, which makes it related.

I asked multiple people and no one had a problem with it whatsoever
p/2962715

>>It can't be a username, or anything related to a username.

Unless you think the "For My" part indicates exactly what the difficulty is...

The reason "xxx's Hard" is acceptable is because it says two things. Who made it, and what the difficulty is supposed to be. In this case, you've literally just put someones name there. Someone unrelated to the map. Something unrelated to the map. You're in a relationship, good on you, but what does that have to do with the map? Or with the song?

I hate to be that guy, but this is fucking retarded.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro
@TBLKitten, that had to chance cause it was offensive.

@Lach, the hardest diff of a mapset can have a custom name, doesn't necessarily have to contain a name

Guys please. It's a game, stop taking this so serious, everyone understands that it's harder than the insane specially now with the fixed star rating. No don't come to me complaining the star rating still sucks, it's accurate enough to indicate what is what.
Lach

Kyshiro wrote:

@Lach, the hardest diff of a mapset can have a custom name, doesn't necessarily have to contain a name
That's my point. It can have a custom name, it can't contain only a username. Or name of a player. It has to be related to something.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Lach wrote:

Kyshiro wrote:

@Lach, the hardest diff of a mapset can have a custom name, doesn't necessarily have to contain a name
That's my point. It can have a custom name, it can't contain only a username. Or name of a player. It has to be related to something.
Explained this like 3x now, it's related because I mapped this specifically for her making it related to the map, the rule with the usernames was cause people were calling their diffs ''Kyshiro'' or ''0108'' This is something completely different
Lach

Kyshiro wrote:

Lach wrote:

That's my point. It can have a custom name, it can't contain only a username. Or name of a player. It has to be related to something.
Explained this like 3x now, it's related because I mapped this specifically for her making it related to the map, the rule with the usernames was cause people were calling their diffs ''Kyshiro'' or ''0108'' This is something completely different
It still doesn't make it any different. It's still a name of someone, it does not indicate the difficulty, it does not represent something to do with the song.

It doesn't make any difference.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Kyshiro wrote:

Lach wrote:

Explained this like 3x now, it's related because I mapped this specifically for her making it related to the map, the rule with the usernames was cause people were calling their diffs ''Kyshiro'' or ''0108'' This is something completely different
It still doesn't make it any different. It's still a name of someone, it does not indicate the difficulty, it does not represent something to do with the song.

It doesn't make any difference.
It's. A. Game.

custom names barely ever indicate a difficulty anyway

I'd appreciate if people could stop complaining on the forum and just talk to me in game.
Cherry Blossom
Sacrilege on a BMS map.
I don't really think the diff name is rankable, no exceptions ?
Lach
I sincerely congratulate you on being together for a whole ten months. But I don't think you understand the point I'm trying to get across here. Your difficulty name makes no sense, and you and I both know that you know this. And you're trying to get away with it for no reason other than the fact that you named it after your (girl)friend, and that makes it okay to disregard a rule set in place to stop wanko like this.
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Sacrilege on a BMS map.
I don't really think the diff name is rankable, no exceptions ?
For what exact reason? the ''name rule'' was for diffnames called ''nameofmapper'' which then would be the diff that mapper made. this is completely different
Stefan
About the point "unrelated to a username.": this actually could mean anything.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/514981 would be unrankable because the "ovic" is the 2nd half of my 2nd name. Which is unlogical and extremely stupid. If the user Ami used "Alexa" in her current or previous name (see the case about Skystar) then that probably would fit into the criteria to be "related to the username".

just saying
Topic Starter
Kyshiro

Stefan wrote:

About the point "unrelated to a username.": this actually could mean anything.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/514981 would be unrankable because the "ovic" is the 2nd half of my 2nd name. Which is unlogical and extremely stupid. If the user Ami used "Alexa" in her current or previous name (see the case about Skystar) then that probably would fit into the criteria to be "related to the username".

just saying
Funfact, alexa is also just half of her name
shARPII
Ok let's avoid a drama here.

I cleaned some stuff which wasn't needed without killing the main discussion.
To be clear, you guys have the right to give your opinion, but not by trashtalking people and being rude.

QAT are doing their job and they'll unrank it if it's needed (because of this or not, that's not really my job to decide)
Nevertheless, I'm still here to avoid this kind of "bad discussion" happen.

I reopen this but I warn you that every post which doesn't make sense / agressive without any kind of argument will be deleted followed by a silence of the user.

Thank you and be nice, it's just a game.

PS: If you need something / I did something wrong for you, feel free to poke me in game (and not posting here)
Cherry Blossom
So, clarify this "supposed" rule because people are confused lol.
I personally don't agree with this diff name, it's like "back to our old times, YEAH, i can name my diff "STAY COCONUT MILK RAINBOW DASH" but this is still related to the song", lol. Changing already changed rule does not even have sense. but well, it's not the place to talk about rules here. So, i will shut up myself, and see what will happen.
Secretpipe
Let's close the drama and go play god damn it
Maruyu
Nowhere in this mapset is the name Alexa related to any sort of username on osu!. Also, the Ranking Criteria explicitely says that the difficulty name must be appropriate. Well, "appropriate" isn't specified, so it doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be related to the song. I don't see why this difficulty name is an issue.
ProfessionalBox
In my opinion this diff name should be kept the way it is. This is meant as a sweet gesture and it is in no way an offensive or inappropriate name for a difficulty. Things like these make the osu! community better :)
TicClick
Hello. Unfortunately, I have to unrank your map for the reason many users have pointed out already: inappropriate difficulty name ("For My Alexa"). It could work better if the name indicated difficulty in any way or wasn't only a tribute or dedication to the person, mentioning nothing but her name. You may use a storyboard to show your devotion, but difficulty name is a no-no.

On another note:
[Insane]
  1. 00:57:675 (2) - mapped to no sound and should appear 1/4 earlier
shARPII
This is my last warning.
Refer to this post : p/3478346
The mapper himself asked to stop the spam here, so please do.

It's time for the rerank (if he wants to), so just keep this thread clean.
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