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mathru - Saikin Osen [Taiko]

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shikyu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 12 April 2014 at 18:45:04

Artist: mathru
Title: Saikin Osen
Tags: Bacterial Contamination Hatsune Miku 初音ミク Vocaloid かにみそP KanimisoP Calne Ca Deino
BPM: 212
Filesize: 4493kb
Play Time: 03:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (4,23 stars, 487 notes)
  2. Kantan (1,36 stars, 258 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (4,8 stars, 760 notes)
  4. Oni (4,94 stars, 950 notes)
Download: mathru - Saikin Osen
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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try to map taiko again~

Kantan : Done
Futsuu : Done
Muzukashii : Done
Oni : Done
captin1
hi

SPOILER
[TimingPoints]
1221,283.018867924528,4,1,0,100,1,0
32353,355.029585798817,4,1,0,100,1,0
33063,283.018867924528,4,1,0,100,1,0
46611,-100,4,1,0,100,0,1
55668,-100,4,1,0,100,0,0
118534,317.460317460317,4,1,0,100,1,0
119168,283.018867924528,4,1,0,100,1,0
167281,283.018867924528,4,1,0,100,1,0
remember to resnap green lines and then notes

song is pretty out there, cool though

(also thanks for indirectly answering a question i had about offsetting the background more XD was wondering how that was done)

good luck!
Topic Starter
shikyu
thanks for timing~ glad I can help you too ^^
Evening
Soz can't mod this I have fear of creepy songs :c gomen
Senritsu
sorry for the super delayed mod lol
Request from queue~

[General]
Title : 細菌汚染

[Kantan]
HP OD 3? 4 ketinggian owo
SV 1.00?
00:18:202 (30) - k? nadanya naik di situ
00:20:466 (32) - D, buat nandain awal dari nyanyinya
00:28:390 (42) - D, biar ngga kosong + drumnya mulai di situ
00:33:063 (47) - sama kea 32
00:37:591 (53) - ganti d? soalnya nadanya sama kaya 54
00:41:553 (57) - k? vokalnya lebih tinggi owo
00:42:119 (58) - D? drumnya kedengeran xD
00:43:110 (59,61) - ganti ke d? ngikutin suara drumnya, lebih enak didenger ><
00:57:968 (1) - D? buat drumnya + awal vokal
01:07:025 (10) - ganti K? vokalnya naik soalnya
01:47:496 (4) - rem, D 01:47:779 (5) - ? soalnya di situ kudenger ngikutin drumnya, bukan vokalnya? ><;
02:03:130 (23) - ganti ke k? vokalnya naek, dan imo D kedengeran aneh. kalo emang diganti, 02:03:696 (25) - K juga, biar ngebedain tekanan di vokalnya owo
02:08:224 (33) - finish di sini dong, biar konsisten sama sesudahnya dan sebelumnya x)
02:31:432 (9) - rem? dari kosong, tiba" jadi padat @@ nggak jelas jadinya x'D
03:18:979 itai panjang di sini, kenapa ngga pake spinner? tapi itai yang terakhir, pake spinner owo
idk, ini kaya futsuu versi gampang, bukan kantan xD
kiai ketiga, imo terlalu padat :3
di awal emang udah cakep, cuma di akhirnya langsung diserbu triplet sama duplet 1/2 x_x
tapi bagus kok :3

tunggu futsuu muzu sama oninya e_e
jangan dikd dulu kak uwu
beneran sibuk orz
verto
General
SPOILER
I don't know if you deliberately didn't map to the beat nor vocals, but a lot of notes sound too late.


Kantan

SPOILER
SV changes a might be too much for kantan, it can really confuse new players

00:02:211 (3) - d->k or d->D
00:06:739 (9) - ^
00:04:475 (6) - k->d or k->D
00:08:720 (11) - k->d
00:14:805 (23) - d->k

00:20:466 (33) - move to the red line like this http://puu.sh/6Qicf.png
00:22:588 (35) - ^
00:24:853 (38) - ^
00:27:117 (40) - ^
00:29:381 (43) - ^
00:31:645 (45) - ^
00:34:195 (48) - ^
00:36:459 (51) - ^
00:38:723 (54) - ^
00:40:987 (56) - ^
(please check the rest as well, I think by now you get what I mean)

00:29:522 (43) - k->d
00:51:176 (70) - Finish?
01:02:496 (5,6) - d->k
01:24:006 (30,31,32) - invert (k k d -> d d k)
01:29:666 (38) - Finish?
01:29:666 (38) - k->d or k->D
02:33:696 (14) - d->k
02:46:715 (8) - remove?

The part between the last kiai time and the spinner is pretty empty, you might want to map that part as well

03:32:564 (1) - finish
03:33:130 (2) - d


Futsuu

SPOILER
00:01:645 (2) - move to 00:01:504 (2) -
00:06:173 (12) - move to 00:06:032 (12) -
00:10:843 (3) - move to 00:10:702 (3) -
00:15:371 (17) - move to 00:15:230 (17) -
00:17:636 (24) - move to 00:17:494 (24) -
00:19:900 (30) - move to 00:19:758 (30) - and k->d
00:20:466 (31) - move to 00:20:324 (31) -
00:22:164 (35) - move to 00:22:022 (35) -
00:22:730 (36) - move to 00:22:588 (36) -
00:24:428 (41) - move to 00:24:287 (41) - and k->d
00:24:994 (42) - move to 00:24:853 (42) -
00:28:956 (51) - move to 00:28:815 (51) -
00:29:522 (52) - move to 00:29:381 (52) -
00:31:220 (56) - move to 00:31:079 (56) -
00:33:629 (60) - move to 00:33:487 (60) - and k->d
00:34:195 (61) - move to 00:34:053 (61) -

Actually this would take too much time, can you recheck the whole set of this problem? I'll mod the set afterwards, though if you mapped this way on purpose, then my bad.
Topic Starter
shikyu

Senritsu wrote:

sorry for the super delayed mod lol
Request from queue~

[General]
Title : 細菌汚染 lol ga ada bedanya kayaknya ==a but changed~

[Kantan]
HP OD 3? 4 ketinggian owo
SV 1.00?
00:18:202 (30) - k? nadanya naik di situ
00:20:466 (32) - D, buat nandain awal dari nyanyinya
00:28:390 (42) - D, biar ngga kosong + drumnya mulai di situ
00:33:063 (47) - sama kea 32
00:37:591 (53) - ganti d? soalnya nadanya sama kaya 54
00:41:553 (57) - k? vokalnya lebih tinggi owo
00:42:119 (58) - D? drumnya kedengeran xD
00:43:110 (59,61) - ganti ke d? ngikutin suara drumnya, lebih enak didenger ><
00:57:968 (1) - D? buat drumnya + awal vokal
01:07:025 (10) - ganti K? vokalnya naik soalnya
01:47:496 (4) - rem, D 01:47:779 (5) - ? soalnya di situ kudenger ngikutin drumnya, bukan vokalnya? ><; masih ada drum di stu, ga enak direm
02:03:130 (23) - ganti ke k? vokalnya naek, dan imo D kedengeran aneh. kalo emang diganti, 02:03:696 (25) - K juga, biar ngebedain tekanan di vokalnya owo
02:08:224 (33) - finish di sini dong, biar konsisten sama sesudahnya dan sebelumnya x) remove finish di sesudahnya, pertimbangan notes 1/1 langsung finish note lol
02:31:432 (9) - rem? dari kosong, tiba" jadi padat @@ nggak jelas jadinya x'D
03:18:979 itai panjang di sini, kenapa ngga pake spinner? tapi itai yang terakhir, pake spinner owo sake of variety, bagian ini itiai-nya 3 kali jadi a panjang2 banget

_verto_ wrote:

General
SPOILER
I don't know if you deliberately didn't map to the beat nor vocals, but a lot of notes sound too late. notes in kantan mostly should be on white tick (for beginner player), that's why some sounds late, but I make sure it's still good to hear. for futsuu I try to not make much difference from kantan, if there's too much notes on red tick it might be confusing


Kantan

SPOILER
SV changes a might be too much for kantan, it can really confuse new players

00:02:211 (3) - d->k or d->D
00:06:739 (9) - ^
00:04:475 (6) - k->d or k->D
00:08:720 (11) - k->d
00:14:805 (23) - d->k
for opening part I wanna make it simple

00:20:466 (33) - move to the red line like this http://puu.sh/6Qicf.png
00:22:588 (35) - ^
00:24:853 (38) - ^
00:27:117 (40) - ^
00:29:381 (43) - ^
00:31:645 (45) - ^
00:34:195 (48) - ^
00:36:459 (51) - ^
00:38:723 (54) - ^
00:40:987 (56) - ^
(please check the rest as well, I think by now you get what I mean) nope, I still follow drum in white tick and it's still sounds good

00:29:522 (43) - k->d
00:51:176 (70) - Finish? nope, it's isn't recommended as 1/1 is narrowest notes on kantan
01:02:496 (5,6) - d->k prefer k on (3,4) but I make this all d because I use this pattern on other diff as well and I wanna make difference between them
01:24:006 (30,31,32) - invert (k k d -> d d k) change to d k d instead
01:29:666 (38) - Finish? same as 00:51:176 (70)
01:29:666 (38) - k->d or k->D ^
02:33:696 (14) - d->k
02:46:715 (8) - remove?

The part between the last kiai time and the spinner is pretty empty, you might want to map that part as well

03:32:564 (1) - finish it isn't sounds that high
03:33:130 (2) - d


Futsuu

SPOILER
00:01:645 (2) - move to 00:01:504 (2) -
00:06:173 (12) - move to 00:06:032 (12) - ^
00:10:843 (3) - move to 00:10:702 (3) - ^
00:15:371 (17) - move to 00:15:230 (17) -
00:17:636 (24) - move to 00:17:494 (24) -
00:19:900 (30) - move to 00:19:758 (30) - and k->d
00:20:466 (31) - move to 00:20:324 (31) -
00:22:164 (35) - move to 00:22:022 (35) -
00:22:730 (36) - move to 00:22:588 (36) -
00:24:428 (41) - move to 00:24:287 (41) - and k->d
00:24:994 (42) - move to 00:24:853 (42) -
00:28:956 (51) - move to 00:28:815 (51) -
00:29:522 (52) - move to 00:29:381 (52) -
00:31:220 (56) - move to 00:31:079 (56) -
00:33:629 (60) - move to 00:33:487 (60) - and k->d
00:34:195 (61) - move to 00:34:053 (61) -
fixed some

Actually this would take too much time, can you recheck the whole set of this problem? I'll mod the set afterwards, though if you mapped this way on purpose, then my bad.
no reply means fixed
Thanks all for mod~
Senritsu
bump
all of this words are suggestions only ww

[General]
kalo gitu aku yang belum apdet titlenya xD
setelah berulang kali maen, menurut telingaku sih, volumenya kekerasan ww
apalagi pas spinner, dan stream musiknya kalah (spinnernya ngebut btw)

[Futsuu]
00:21:032 (33) - k? lebih tinggi nadanya
00:50:610 (99) - ganti k? buat ngpasin ritme sama k sebelum"nya. kalo km ganti, finishnya dipindah aja ke 00:51:176 (101) - ?
01:04:478 tambah d di sini? ada drumnya, aneh kalo kosong
01:07:025 (12) - D, soalnya vokalnya lumayan panjang xD
02:00:866 (37) - ganti k? vokalnya masih tinggi di situ ~ kalo emang diganti, coba ganti 02:01:149 (38) - ke d juga, soalnya drum mendominasi di sana
02:09:922 (66,67) - ^
nice diff ><b

[Muzukashii]
beda combonya jauh banget sama futsuu xD
00:24:853 (67) - k, vokal di sini kedengeran lebih tinggi soalnya 'ka'nya
00:28:390 (84) - finish? atau ngga, ganti ke dd, samain kaya pattern sesudahnya, atau pattern sesudahnya ngikut yang pertama :3
00:39:713 kasih d di sini? soalnya ada suara drumnya
01:04:478 d? ada drumnya
01:07:025 (18) - finish? buat nandain akhir vokal
01:45:091 (1,2) - start di sini kedengeran aneh ;_; remove aja, nyamain kaya kantan sama futsuu
02:55:630 (4) - rem? kedengeran aneh kalo masih kosong tapi udah ada k eue
keren ;_;

[Oni]
00:28:390 (106) - finish? long vocal xD
01:02:072 (3,4,5,6) - dkdd? lebih enak didenger imo
01:45:091 (1,2) - sama kaya muzu
01:49:761 (16) - k? vokalnya naik di sana xD
01:51:459 (24) - why ada finish nyasar there owo
01:52:591 (29) - ini juga nyasar D:
03:37:092 (1) - rem finish. nyamain sama semua diff
those traps tho o_o

gl kak! ><
Topic Starter
shikyu

Senritsu wrote:

bump
all of this words are suggestions only ww

[General]
kalo gitu aku yang belum apdet titlenya xD
setelah berulang kali maen, menurut telingaku sih, volumenya kekerasan ww
apalagi pas spinner, dan stream musiknya kalah (spinnernya ngebut btw) dijadiin 90%~

[Futsuu]
00:21:032 (33) - k? lebih tinggi nadanya
00:50:610 (99) - ganti k? buat ngpasin ritme sama k sebelum"nya. kalo km ganti, finishnya dipindah aja ke 00:51:176 (101) - ? kiai lain kayak gini, soalnya drumnya di sini lebih gede volumenya
01:04:478 tambah d di sini? ada drumnya, aneh kalo kosong
01:07:025 (12) - D, soalnya vokalnya lumayan panjang xD
02:00:866 (37) - ganti k? vokalnya masih tinggi di situ ~ kalo emang diganti, coba ganti 02:01:149 (38) - ke d juga, soalnya drum mendominasi di sana [colodrve it like that[/color]
02:09:922 (66,67) - ^color=#FF0000]^[/color]
nice diff ><b

[Muzukashii]
beda combonya jauh banget sama futsuu xD ini aja udah bingung mo ngepres kayak gimana lagi D:
00:24:853 (67) - k, vokal di sini kedengeran lebih tinggi soalnya 'ka'nya follow drum here, so no
00:28:390 (84) - finish? atau ngga, ganti ke dd, samain kaya pattern sesudahnya, atau pattern sesudahnya ngikut yang pertama :3 use finish
00:39:713 kasih d di sini? soalnya ada suara drumnya
01:04:478 d? ada drumnya
01:07:025 (18) - finish? buat nandain akhir vokal
01:45:091 (1,2) - start di sini kedengeran aneh ;_; remove aja, nyamain kaya kantan sama futsuu
02:55:630 (4) - rem? kedengeran aneh kalo masih kosong tapi udah ada k eue
keren ;_;

[Oni]
00:28:390 (106) - finish? long vocal xD
01:02:072 (3,4,5,6) - dkdd? lebih enak didenger imo prefer dkkd
01:45:091 (1,2) - sama kaya muzu
01:49:761 (16) - k? vokalnya naik di sana xD
01:51:459 (24) - why ada finish nyasar there owo ngikut drum .A.)a
01:52:591 (29) - ini juga nyasar D: change to k
03:37:092 (1) - rem finish. nyamain sama semua diff left it like that, will look other's opinion
those traps tho o_o

gl kak! >< XD
no reply means fixed thanks~
Nwolf
woof

[Kantan]

00:32:353 - Add a green timing section here with SV multiplier 1.25 to avoid confusion for new players
03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - Maybe map this more similar to 00:10:277 - 00:14:522 - because the last part is quite easy compared to the kiai before and both parts are quite similar to each other (in music)

[Futsuu]

00:29:522 (52) - Split into two notes on the red ticks before and after this one, because you mapped it that way in the intro too
00:32:353 - Add a green timing section here with SV multiplier 1.25 to avoid confusion for new players
02:17:281 - 02:21:809 - Map more here, doesn't really fit
03:13:035 (62,63,64) - Maybe don't use these kind of triplets, makes the difficulty gap between Kantan and Futsuu even larger and it is already large, so change to kkk instead? (and maybe ddd for every 2nd)
03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - same as 02:17:281 - 02:21:809

[Muzukashii]

00:09:994 (1) - Maybe make this a triplet by adding two kats on the next 1/4 ticks?
00:32:353 - Add a green timing section here with SV multiplier 1.25 because it looks stupid : D
00:39:996 - Maybe add a don for vocals?
00:42:119 (139) - Make this a triplet by adding two dons on the previous 1/4 ticks, I really think the Muzu needs a few more triplets so it isn't too similar to Futsuu
03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - Same as Kantan
03:25:488 - Add a note here and on the next 1/2 tick
03:27:752 - ^

[Oni]

03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - Same as previous diffs
03:30:158 - IF also done so in Muzukashii: Add a note here


Love that Oni. Might think about throwing a star here, later^^

gl : D
Topic Starter
shikyu

Nwolf wrote:

woof

[Kantan]

00:32:353 - Add a green timing section here with SV multiplier 1.25 to avoid confusion for new players
03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - Maybe map this more similar to 00:10:277 - 00:14:522 - because the last part is quite easy compared to the kiai before and both parts are quite similar to each other (in music)

[Futsuu]

00:29:522 (52) - Split into two notes on the red ticks before and after this one, because you mapped it that way in the intro too
00:32:353 - Add a green timing section here with SV multiplier 1.25 to avoid confusion for new players
02:17:281 - 02:21:809 - Map more here, doesn't really fit
03:13:035 (62,63,64) - Maybe don't use these kind of triplets, makes the difficulty gap between Kantan and Futsuu even larger and it is already large, so change to kkk instead? (and maybe ddd for every 2nd) changed some, imo still need that kind of pattern because of muzukashii diff
03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - same as 02:17:281 - 02:21:809

[Muzukashii]

00:09:994 (1) - Maybe make this a triplet by adding two kats on the next 1/4 ticks? nope, I don't use any 1/4 triplets untul 2nd kiai
00:32:353 - Add a green timing section here with SV multiplier 1.25 because it looks stupid : D
00:39:996 - Maybe add a don for vocals? no, vocal's on blue tick and it sounds weird
00:42:119 (139) - Make this a triplet by adding two dons on the previous 1/4 ticks, I really think the Muzu needs a few more triplets so it isn't too similar to Futsuu same as 00:09:994 (1)
03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - Same as Kantan
03:25:488 - Add a note here and on the next 1/2 tick weird -,-
03:27:752 - ^ ^

[Oni]

03:18:979 - 03:22:941 - Same as previous diffs prefer keep those spinner and sliders
03:30:158 - IF also done so in Muzukashii: Add a note here


Love that Oni. Might think about throwing a star here, later^^

gl : D
no reply means fixed, for those empty part I prefer make it simpler
thanks~
Topic Starter
shikyu
revived, waiting too long for a mod ugh =="
Lythryn
hi! m4m requesterino from your thread

my map -> http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/200901

everything are suggestions~

Muzu

00:17:636 (31) - k to match previous bars
00:26:692 (71) - move from white tick to red tick to match vocals, it doesnt really follow anything obvious where it is now
01:58:393 (48) - k
02:03:554 (68,69,70) - kkd AND other similar notes in the other chorus sections
02:08:083 (89,90,91) - ^
02:12:611 (111,112,113) - ^
02:58:177 (14) - k

might have to reduce density a little, might be a bit too hard for muzu

Oni

01:15:798 (71) - d
01:23:015 (115,116,117,118) - kd kk
01:52:308 (27) - k for kat spread/rhythm
02:57:611 (13) - d
03:04:403 (54,55,56,57,58) - dkdk
03:05:252 (59,60,61) - kkd
03:09:780 (85,86,87) - ^
03:11:903 (97) - k

imo you could fill in the breaks, theyre a little long for taiko

rest seems fine!
tetsutaro


[Peripheral]
:idea: nightmare fuel lol

[Notechart]
<Kantan> Perceived rating: 2★ Kantan :idea: Can do more. This Kantan is disjointedly easy
<Futsuu> Perceived rating: 6★ Futsuu
<Muzukashii> Perceived rating: 6★ Muzukashii
<Oni> Perceived rating: 8★ Oni

:idea: <Kantan> / <Futsuu> 00:42:119~ and 01:20:610~ and so on - drumroll or denden covering the so-long-it's-creepy notes. That is what Taiko no Tatsujin does to long lingering notes in lower levels (ref: Senbonzakura)
EDIT: Like what you had 03:23:507~ !
:idea: 01:38:723~ and 02:47:281~ - Fill in the break with e.g. simple/sparse/katsu-only patterns (ref: D's Adventure Note)

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