20:23 dosyeru: hi, can you mod my mania map?
20:23 Bites: sure thing!
20:23 Bites: just /np it to me
20:23 Bites: and i'll be happy to go through it with you right now
20:23 *dosyeru is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/350260 T.M.Revolution - HOT LIMIT]
20:24 dosyeru: here you go
20:24 Bites: downloading it!
20:24 dosyeru: thank alot!
20:25 Bites: ok, let's start with the another difficulty
20:25 dosyeru: kk
20:25 Bites: i'll likely play it a bit poorly, i'm not quite as good at 7k as i am really good at 6k and 4k :p
20:25 dosyeru: it's not a map for pro
20:27 Bites: wow,
20:27 Bites: that was really fun!
20:27 dosyeru: thx alot
20:28 dosyeru: actually im worried about this type of map
20:28 dosyeru: it's BMS or IIDX style
20:28 dosyeru: I think many mania players like O2JAM, so
20:28 Bites: yeah, they're big fans of way too many long notes imo
20:30 Bites: 00:11:559 (11559|0) - seems to not have purpose? i dont think i hear any note in the music here
20:30 Bites: its very quiet when slowed down
20:30 Bites: it is there but maybe not worth putting a note for
20:30 Bites: 00:13:299 (13299|0) - ditto
20:31 Bites: 00:16:344 (16344|0) - ditto
20:31 dosyeru: many notes at column 1 takes bass durm sound
20:31 Bites: its a very quiet bass drum sound and i believe that while it may add a bit of extra difficulty to have those notes there
20:31 Bites: i think sometimes they are innapropriate to the pattern
20:32 Bites: up to you
20:32 dosyeru: hm, let me think patterns again
20:32 Bites: 00:20:476 (20476|0) - missing note one 1/4th after this?
20:32 Bites: i hear an extra beat and no note
20:33 dosyeru: yeah, that's on purpose
20:33 dosyeru: acutually I mapped a note here,
20:33 Bites: 00:22:868 (22868|4,22868|6,22868|2,22868|0) - could extend some notes to long notes to match vocals
20:33 Bites: 00:23:303 (23303|3,23303|5,23303|2,23303|0) -
20:33 Bites: same
20:34 dosyeru: sounds good
20:34 dosyeru: Im adding right now
20:35 Bites: 00:31:675 (31675|5) - this whole section here with the long notes off-beat played really awkwardly
20:35 Bites: not sure if it's because of the patterns used
20:35 Bites: i feel like it might not be so bad for someone who was more experience in 7k but it was very difficult to play this part
20:35 Bites: and i dont hear anything in the music to go to the long notes at all
20:36 dosyeru: I take sound of guitar, but let me change LNs to notes
20:36 Bites: maybe its just a stylistic choice but it just doesnt really seem to work
20:36 Bites: if u want to keep them LN's again
20:36 Bites: this is just recommendations
20:36 dosyeru: ok
20:37 Bites: and i assume it was purposeful to not put notes to the vocals here
20:37 Bites: :p
20:37 Bites: i like that
20:38 dosyeru: that's what I aim XD
20:39 Bites: 01:24:626 (84626|4,84626|6) - one of these into a LN for half a beat?
20:39 Bites: to go with the instrument that sounds like the melody :p
20:39 Bites: 01:28:104 (88104|4,88104|6) - ditto
20:40 Bites: im not really gonna go over the solo with you, but playing at 50% some of the notes sounded pretty far off
20:40 Bites: it's gonna be hard to sync those properly
20:41 Bites: so i dont blame you
20:41 Bites: see if you can adjust some of them with 1/12th and 1/16th though
20:41 Bites: to be more on sync with the guitar solo
20:41 dosyeru: i'll try it
20:41 Bites: 01:44:518 (104518|1) - missing note 1/4th before this
20:41 Bites: 01:46:259 (106259|6) - ditto
20:42 Bites: it seems to be on purpose like before tho
20:42 Bites: so
20:43 Bites: aight
20:43 dosyeru: im gonna rearrange those pattern
20:43 Bites: i think thats everything i can catch
20:43 Bites:
20:43 Bites: did you want me to mod lower diffs too?
20:44 dosyeru: yeah pls if you have time
20:44 Bites: sure thing
20:44 dosyeru: yay
20:45 Bites: 00:19:606 (19606|5,19823|6) - PR is incorrect, second note should be going to the left
20:45 Bites: not to the right
20:45 Bites: 00:20:693 (20693|2,20911|4,21128|6,21345|3) - last note here has incorrect PR too, compress this pattern a little bit so you can make the last note go to the right
20:46 Bites: oh, the note after it too
20:46 dosyeru: that's right
20:46 dosyeru: changed to follow the melody line
20:47 dosyeru: done
20:47 Bites: 00:30:262 (30262|4,30479|1,30697|2,30697|6,30914|5,31132|4) - this section here is supposed to follow the bass line right?
20:48 dosyeru: actually guitar, but almost the same as bass line
20:48 Bites:
http://puu.sh/6r8xy.png works better
20:49 dosyeru: that's beatiful
20:49 Bites: 00:38:091 (38091|0) up until 00:39:830 (39830|6,39830|0) doesn't follow the same pattern you usually use for that instrument
20:49 Bites: woops
20:49 Bites: 00:38:091 (38091|0) - up until 00:39:830 (39830|6,39830|0) - doesn't follow the same pattern you usually use for that instrument
20:49 Bites: thinking back to here 00:03:299 (3299|2) -
20:50 Bites: its the same melody on that instrument at the beginning as it is here
20:50 Bites: ditto for 00:41:570 (41570|6)
20:50 Bites: up til 00:43:310 (43310|2)
20:51 dosyeru: that's also on purpose. I thought the same pattern would not be fun
20:51 Bites: doesnt have to be the exact same pattern as the first one
20:51 Bites: but it's radically different
20:51 dosyeru: hm, ok let me change it
20:51 Bites: up to you
20:51 dosyeru: kk
20:52 Bites: 00:52:009 (52009|5) - add note 1/2 before this would be better i think
20:52 Bites: 01:04:187 (64187|4,64405|2,64622|6,64839|4,65057|3) - fix pr
20:53 Bites: 01:10:059 (70059|5,70276|6,70494|4) - ditto
20:53 Bites: 01:11:581 (71581|5,71799|3,72016|6,72233|4,72451|2) - ditto
20:54 Bites: 01:26:799 (86799|1) - to 01:28:539 (88539|3) - seems like it would be very awkward to play for a more inexperienced player
20:54 Bites: and it doesnt make much sense either
20:54 Bites: i recommend either a trill or four notes before starting the pattern back at the left again
20:55 Bites: so.. like, either this
http://puu.sh/6r8Uj.png20:55 Bites: or maybe this
http://puu.sh/6r8VD.png20:55 Bites: i was thinking though if you wanna get a little more creative
20:55 Bites: i'm sure it wouldn't be too bad to do something like this..
20:55 dosyeru: I was curious about this
20:56 dosyeru: thank
20:56 dosyeru: Ill take it
20:56 Bites:
http://puu.sh/6r8XH.png20:56 Bites: this might be fun too
20:58 Bites: 02:17:249 (137249|0) - to 02:18:880 (138880|5,138880|1) - i think this stream shouldn't be so random
20:58 Bites: it's to a single beat that doesnt change pitch or anything at all
20:58 Bites: so maybe do a similar pattern as what i just showed you for it
20:58 Bites: i think that's it for this diff
20:59 Bites: on easiest diff
20:59 Bites: 00:16:996 (16996|6) - i dont think this note is necessary
20:59 Bites: 00:31:132 (31132|6,31132|4) - to 00:38:091 (38091|2) - should NOT be this empty
21:00 Bites: you're trying to help new players into the game, not bore them to death
21:00 Bites: :p
21:00 Bites: add a couple of notes in this section
21:00 Bites: 00:45:050 (45050|2) - same for these long notes
21:00 Bites: should probably put a few notes
21:00 Bites: could look something like this
21:01 Bites:
http://puu.sh/6r9g3.png21:01 Bites: 00:52:009 (52009|5) - same dealio here
21:02 dosyeru: isn't it hard for beginner?
21:02 Bites: 01:06:797 (66797|1,67014|2,67232|4,67449|5,67667|6) - would probably work better as just a 35353 trill
21:02 Bites: and no, i don't think so
21:02 dosyeru: ok, I take it and im adding those notes
21:03 Bites: 01:28:104 (88104|0,88104|6) - up to 01:42:452 (102452|0,102452|6) - this entire stream is way too wildly patterned
21:03 Bites: it's going to be difficult for beginners to read and hit
21:03 Bites: you can keep it a stream but i would recommend making the patterns much simpler
21:03 Bites: and consistent
21:04 Bites: 02:04:201 (124201|2,124419|4,124636|1,124854|5,125071|0) - works better as a 35353 trill again
21:05 Bites: 02:16:814 (136814|6) - right after this, the long note
21:05 dosyeru: 01:28:539 (88539|0) - this section was also my concern
21:05 dosyeru: ill change it
21:05 Bites: alright
21:05 Bites: just make it simpler to hit
21:06 dosyeru: kk
21:06 Bites: anyways yes, 02:16:814 (136814|6) - the section right after this note with the long note
21:06 Bites: i think should look like this
21:06 Bites:
http://puu.sh/6r9vN.png21:06 Bites: it's the climax of the song
21:06 Bites: so it should be a tough pattern
21:06 Bites: and i think this works better
21:06 Bites: thats it for this difficulty
21:07 dosyeru: thank you a lot again! XD
21:07 Bites:
What's with the ''normal-hitclap2'' and ''normal-hitwhistle2'' if your timing is only Drum audio? fix this?
