Kuzino wrote:

[Crystal's Extra]
난이도 이름 Overdose나 Rain으로 바꾸셔야할듯 무슨 난이도인지 정확히 알수가 없음 BAT 모딩 이후 다시 체크
HP 드레인 5나 6정도가 적당해보여요. 드레인 6
01:20:696 (7,8,1) - , 01:22:340 (7,8,1) - 이부분 정말 받기어려운거같아요. 좀더 약한 점프로 배치하시거나 아예 하이퍼 대쉬로 배치하시는게 어떨까 싶음 배치간격을 좀 줄여봤습니다.
01:22:340 (7,8,1,1,1,2,3) - 스핀이후에 노트 받는게 어렵네요. 다시 배치하는걸 고려해보시는것도 좋을듯 위와 같음

Kuzino wrote:

[Last Bubble's Platter]
00:13:710 (1,2) - 처음보고 받기엔 어렵네요. 하이퍼대쉬가 잇으면 더 수월할듯하네요.
00:43:916 (3) - 약간 왼쪽으로 배치해주세요.

Kuzino wrote:

좋은 곡이네요

[Fast's Salad]
00:43:299 (1,2,3,4) - 간격을 동일하게 하는시는게 어떨까요
00:45:765 (4,5,6) - 이부분을 00:44:943 (1,2,3) - 여기처럼 배치하시면 더 좋을것같아요.
00:52:751 (3,1) - 점프가 난이도에 비해 어려운거같아요.
01:41:861 (5) - 이 노트를 01:41:039 (1) - 이거랑 똑같은 위치에 배치하는게 더 좋을것같아요.

전체적으로 다 좋은 난이도네요
Good Luck!

Kurokami wrote:

[Extra]

Man, stop mapping diff that I can't play, I want to be able to pass them at least. \o/

00:19:464 (4,5) - I'm not really like these kind of patterns but maybe this is just a personal taste. no change
00:34:361 (7) - How about turning the end of this slider a bit to the right? This will create a small jump to (8). I think it would be nice. This pattern has bugged, Select the pattern and suddenly quitted.
00:36:005 (7) - ^ fixed
00:38:162 (6) - Just a simple note? no change.
01:00:354 (4,5) - Maybe add a tiny jump? good. added
01:12:066 (3) - Delete the repeat and add a triplet to 01:12:683 - 01:12:888? no change.
01:35:902 (1,2,3,4) - I pointed out this on Platter but I say here once more. I don't think 1/4 patterns fit in the song. Its your choice since this is the kiai and the hardest diff but still bothers me a bit. man.. this one is THE symbol of the map..
01:58:094 (5,6,7,8) - The ryhthm seems bad here. (5) is okay then just a note at 01:58:402 and a slider at 01:58:607 till 01:58:710. I tried with this, but I don't like it. sorry.

Hmm, I can say this is your easiest diff ever, or not. orz Anyways good work here too.

Kurokami wrote:

Mod requested a long time ago in a queue far far away~

[Salad]

AR7 for this level? Seems a bit high to me. After all this is the easiest in the spread so I think 6 is better.

00:34:258 (5,1) - Its okay to have higher jump in your mapping but I think you should try to only use side to side jumps during kiai. It also gives better feeling.
00:52:751 (3,1) - This jump comes really sudden which is too hard for a begginner. Please use the same distance as you did right after it (00:53:368 (1,2)).
01:06:313 (1,2,3) - I would like to see an equal distance between notes since the rhythm is note really indicates jumps at (2,3) but more like a nice flow. (Jumps should be somewhere during your sliders.)
01:23:984 (2,3,4) - You can do a better rhythm here (which can be copied after). Divide (2) to a note and a slider, delete the repeat from (4) and you can copy this pattern right after it.
01:46:998 (2) - Devide this repeat into a slider and a note? Having slider end on mainbeat is not really gives a good feeling anyways.
01:55:217 - Why is this empty?
01:59:943 (5,6) - You can change these into a slider to follow the small 1/4 rhythm. This will break apart the kinda borring note spam too.

As i played the kiai was a bit borring. You used all of your hard jumps before it and only the slump ones remained. And even in rhythm seemed a bit empty.
Few example:
01:37:546 (3,1) - Here you can add one more note to create a triplet.
01:39:190 (3,1) - Same.
01:42:477 (7,1) - Same and this would be good after a "stream".
01:44:121 (3,1) - ^
I won't point out more but there is still some.

Not a bad diff but I think it can be much better. But what really needs to be done is the kiai. As I pointed out its a bit borring. Please work out harder patterns and better rhythm during it to make it stand out from the rest.

all fixed

[Platter]

00:43:916 (3) - This is not neccessary, just add a note. The stream part starts at 00:44:121 fixed
00:47:717 (5) - 1/4 earlier.This pattern has bugged, Select the pattern and suddenly quitted.
01:23:470 - Empty, why? That is still a part of the stream what you mapped.^
10 second for break is a bit long. try to lower it to 5 please. Well, just if you want but I suggest it.fixed
01:35:902 (1,2,3,4) - This is follows nothing in the rhythm. Only 1/2s can be mapped here, maybe two forced triplet is still ok. And you have many around here. I don't like the feeling during play. o.oummm....

Spikes everywhere. \o/ I think this is your style so I just keep quiet about this. lol Anyways, only the kiai bothers me a bit. You mapped the second part nicely countering the first half with it. But I suggest you to try mix them, I mean use the rhythm for the second half at those rhythms at the begginning. Believe me, it will be much better. Step asside from this its a good diff (remembers me to Steven's ones). Get it ranked. o/

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I think every diff is more or less good and, maybe just a personal mapping style difference, but I feel maybe a bit more work still can be applied on them. The most bothering one is the easiest and the less is the hardest, kinda weird lol. Anyways, good luck to all of you. o/

ZHSteven wrote:

OK as promise I come to check....

[Salad]
A jumping salad huh?
the pattern consistency is not that well. It is a salad, you need to at least make people can more or less predict where next note will come. Some of the pattern seems a bit sudden for new players.

00:13:710 (1) - to 00:27:066 (1) - do you feel like there is too much note on the right side and almost nothing on the left side? it is salad, and there is only very short part so I can more or less accept it, but try to avoid this kind of thing in your next map. The rhythm in salad is not so strong, but for platter above, it will be a big problem. sorry q.q

00:51:518 (1) - do you mind make this part 1/2 note instead of a slider? seems single slider not suitable for the hyper hyper rhythm. change pattern http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1443903
00:52:751 (3) - try Ctrl+H ^
01:03:025 (1) - strange note.. dont know what's it for remove note
01:09:601 (1,2,3) - here try this. I dont know why you decide to use a softer rhythm here, but just suggestion:
yep
01:12:066 (5,6) - shorten this jump if possible. a bit sudden for new players. ^
01:18:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - if I were you I will make a small decrease--> increase feeling. aaa ....
01:25:423 - note? add
01:27:066 - note? ^
01:32:614 - spinner ends here better. yep
01:37:135 (2,3) - shorten this jump if possible. okay
01:40:012 (2) - you can increase the spacing inside this slider. maybe
01:44:121 (3,2) - ^ ^
01:54:806 (5,6) - 01:55:423 (7,8) - decrease the spacing here please. continuous big jump is not suitable in salad. oka


Feels not well when I back from modding... So if Im too nazi at some place feel free to point out. we can disscuss further.

ZHSteven wrote:

[Platter]
Generally a nice one, really neat stream.

00:18:642 (1,2) - better remove hyperdash because of your smalll jump here 00:15:354 (1,2) - .
00:21:107 (4,5) - can do a movement here? stand is not a good choice because it makes pattern squeeze together. No need that much just show a movement will be fine.
00:23:573 (1) - try ctrl+G
00:24:806 (5,1) - can do a bigger jump here.
00:36:724 (1,2,3,4,5) - I prefer a small increase here, like

1

01:12:888 (1,1,1) - these sliders...lol also you can choose to decrease the spacing inside the 2nd slider.

your current sliders. I stacked all of them for your reference. better make the spacing change constant.

01:19:053 (1,2) - i prefer same pattern as 01:18:642 (1,2) - here, but your choice.
01:24:395 - why here a 1/5X? that makes your slider really hard to control.... only speed up 01:25:628 (4) - slider like this will be a better choice.
now I suggest you to speed up the middle short slider inside this pattern, for example, 01:24:806 (2) - this.

have a try

01:29:943 (3,4,5) - increase spacing?
02:01:381 (3,1,2,3) - try this

I like to hyper the last part, but just suggestion

Generally a good diff. nothing to say.

ZHSteven wrote:

OK as promise I come to check....

[Ex]
really really really you can remove some of the unnecessary hyperdash... it will not break your style on this map, trust me.

00:15:149 (5) - note instead of slider to remove the hyperdash.
00:42:477 (1,2) - here you dont need hyperdash
01:11:450 (1) - .... here really needs an anti-flow triangle? player will slap you loudly if they miss here.... uh, seems fine for me
01:17:614 (8) - 2 note instead of slider to make a linear flow instead of hyperdash...
01:22:751 (1,2) - seems spacing too high for long reverse sliders? I think 1 or 2 grid less will be better. no change.
01:26:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make non-hyper pattern first? imo from previous pattern this will be such a big surprise for players.
01:31:792 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - god this following with hyperdashes???suggest to hyper the spacing a little bit, or make an increase here. /me runs remaked, better check it again.

after find some people testing this diff, I find the short hyper pattern plays well although it looks not that good... So I am OK with your main idea for this map. GJ.


Feels not well when I back from modding... So if Im too nazi at some place feel free to point out. we can disscuss further.

ZHSteven wrote:

CTB diff now fine for me

mania icon
Bubbled.

Drafura wrote:

[General]
Kiais should end on a beat imo, and there's a nice spot to end your first kiai at 01:48:231 - (Also the kiais are not consistent between difficulties in mania maps I don't know if this is wanted maybe you forgot).

More importantly, your soft-hitfinish is in .ogg format wich is actually depreciated and not anymore officially supported by osu!. This means that any future update of osu! could not read this file so please convert it for a .wav instead.

Diffs are pretty clean. Awaiting for your reply.

Aposke wrote:

I would like to make an 8K version (full difficulty spread) of this song, could I use the timing setup you provided in this beatmap?
Thanks in advance for your answer

LeiN- wrote:

Aposke wrote:

I would like to make an 8K version (full difficulty spread) of this song, could I use the timing setup you provided in this beatmap?
Thanks in advance for your answer

Go ahead

1. Each beatmap must have at least 2 difficulties and one of them must be Easy/Normal.
2. Different key amounts within a mapset must be treated as different gamemodes and require an respective independent difficulty spread.
   Therefore each key amount must have an independent difficulty spread.For example if you want to add a 7K difficulty to your set, you must design a whole 7K spread. If you want to add an additional 4k difficulty to your set, you must also desgin a whole 4K spread.

ReddScorn wrote:

Doesn't the 5K Black Another conflict with current rules under Difficulty Spread?
It's the only 5K map in this set and has no spread.

1. Each beatmap must have at least 2 difficulties and one of them must be Easy/Normal.
2. Different key amounts within a mapset must be treated as different gamemodes and require an respective independent difficulty spread.
   Therefore each key amount must have an independent difficulty spread.For example if you want to add a 7K difficulty to your set, you must design a whole 7K spread. If you want to add an additional 4k difficulty to your set, you must also desgin a whole 4K spread.

Also mania bubble was before the rule change on 5 february while the rule was amended 23 march.
Or do rule changes only affect new bubbles after that date?

Deif wrote:

If so, call it Rain then. Right now the labelling is iffy, cos Crystal's diff may lead to misunderstandings.

Either call it Rain, or include a proper Rain to ballance better the mapset (which would be the ideal solution). Let me know what you decide!

LeiN- wrote:

ReddScorn wrote:

Doesn't the 5K Black Another conflict with current rules under Difficulty Spread?
It's the only 5K map in this set and has no spread.

1. Each beatmap must have at least 2 difficulties and one of them must be Easy/Normal.
2. Different key amounts within a mapset must be treated as different gamemodes and require an respective independent difficulty spread.
   Therefore each key amount must have an independent difficulty spread.For example if you want to add a 7K difficulty to your set, you must design a whole 7K spread. If you want to add an additional 4k difficulty to your set, you must also desgin a whole 4K spread.

Also mania bubble was before the rule change on 5 february while the rule was amended 23 march.
Or do rule changes only affect new bubbles after that date?

yeah, maybe

-Kamikaze- wrote:

That rule applies only to mapsets submitted after that rules has been set, so no problems there

LeiN- wrote:

-Kamikaze- wrote:

That rule applies only to mapsets submitted after that rules has been set, so no problems there

Submitted? Is that correct?!

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I believe Loctav said so in Intersect Thunderbolt thread after making a mistake of unqualifing map becuase of no 4K Hard, check that thread to see if I'm really correct